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My dream phone in this world would be a Touch Pro 2 with a Snapdragon, Capacitive touch screen and Android. The closest thing (at least in theory) seems to be the Nexus Two. We do know it will have a qwerty keyboard at least, which is what bothers me the most with the Nexus One..(Probably one of the very few complaints I have about it)..
Anyway, I was very disappointed when I read the rumours that Motorola would be making the N2, but Ive read several discussions since then where people claim to know that HTC is making it after all.
Just wondering if anyone know anything more now? Been a while since Ive seen new updates on the matter.
"There can be only One!!!"
-Connor MacLeod-
If Motorola is making it, I'm giving it a pass and waiting for the N3. If it comes with a hard keyboard, ditto.
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If Motorola is making it, I'm giving it a pass and waiting for the N3. If it comes with a hard keyboard, ditto.
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I agree completely. Motorola makes some ugly ass phones, and their Motoblur skin looks like a pain to use.
My dream device is a Nexus One with a Super AMOLED and slightly larger (say 4") screen.
I spoke to someone I know at Google who said outright, there is no guarantee that HTC will get the Nexus Two. Motorola is the obvious choice. Motorola makes a hell of a good phone. and don't forget, this is a cell phone.
isint the motorola shadow rumored to be the nexus 2
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I agree completely. Motorola makes some ugly ass phones, and their Motoblur skin looks like a pain to use.
My dream device is a Nexus One with a Super AMOLED and slightly larger (say 4") screen.
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My thoughts exactly.
No to hardware keyboard. I like it as it is.
Ditch Snapdragon and go with Tegra 2. Cortex A9 architecture and a vastly better CPU along with amazing battery life? Yes please!
My dream Nexus Two....
Same Body...
4" screen, SUPER AMOLED, 16 GB Internal Memory, 8 megapixel dual led flash camera.
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My dream Nexus Two....
Same Body...
4" screen, SUPER AMOLED, 16 GB Internal Memory, 8 megapixel dual led flash camera.
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and a touch screen that detects multiple touch... this would really soothe a lot of people out there who are wailing that N1 can detect only two touches at a time ...
Amrosorma said:
Ditch Snapdragon and go with Tegra 2. Cortex A9 architecture and a vastly better CPU along with amazing battery life? Yes please!
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Oh god yes. I like my N1, but the Snapdragon is really not the top of the line.
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4" screen, SUPER AMOLED, 16 GB Internal Memory, 8 megapixel dual led flash camera.
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The Incredible has a 8MP camera. Said camera sucks dicks. MP isn't everything, and phone cameras can only do so much. 5MP strikes a perfect balance, IMO.
My dream phone in this world would be a Touch Pro 2 with a Snapdragon, Capacitive touch screen and Android. The closest thing (at least in theory) seems to be the Nexus Two. We do know it will have a qwerty keyboard at least, which is what bothers me the most with the Nexus One..(Probably one of the very few complaints I have about it)..
Anyway, I was very disappointed when I read the rumours that Motorola would be making the N2, but Ive read several discussions since then where people claim to know that HTC is making it after all.
Just wondering if anyone know anything more now? Been a while since Ive seen new updates on the matter.
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Umm, where is that info coming from? That photochopped fake image of motorola shadow?
I have not seen any info on it. Although I think N2 is coming, as far as I know there was no official confirmation of it, leave alone details like keyboard or photos of it. I think you are speculating based on no real information.
If I'm wrong please show me your sources of info.
I dont really mind no physical keyboard but would love to have bigger screen like may be 4 inch, super amoled screen, dual led flash,tegra cpu, stereo speaker and I will be in heaven.
Mutantblack
Motorola cant make qwerty keyboards! Nexus Two will be a qwerty device, at least according to what Google has been saying. And if Motorola is the one making it, then we get something like the Milestone, which has an awfull keyboard with cramped tiny keys.
No, give it to HTC that will turn out an awesome Touch Pro 2-ish keyboard!
Dream N2? Or Dream Phone?
I think 4" Screen, Snapdragon 1.5Ghz, Tegra 2 or Atom perhaps?
An LET screen (light emitting transistor). Far more efficient.
A Battery that will last a full 24 hours at least, with hammering. 2000+ mAh? (I would happily sacrifice size for a bigger battery (depth, not screen size).
Android obviously.
12 Megapixel camera.
No hardware keyboard (gone are the days of broken keys )
More Ram, and a much larger internal capacity; 2 SD slots?
One can dream...
Basically, battery and screen size.
There will never be a nexus two by that name.
HTC is passing a phone through fcc with a keyboard and snapdragon. I believe it's gonna be GSM but I could be wrong on that.
edit: http://www.intoandroid.org/new-htc-android-spotted-at-fcc-probable-named-as-wildfire.html
NO keyboard, stereo speakers, same form factor, better processor, super amoled and I'm solid. hardware keyboards are over.
My dream N2? Very easy.
GSM version of the HTC EVO 4G.
muncheese said:
There will never be a nexus two by that name.
HTC is passing a phone through fcc with a keyboard and snapdragon. I believe it's gonna be GSM but I could be wrong on that.
edit: http://www.intoandroid.org/new-htc-android-spotted-at-fcc-probable-named-as-wildfire.html
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That's the HTC Scorpian.
Well, it's upgrade time on my contract, and I have narrowed it (quite easily) down to two devices, the Legend and the Desire.
The legend will cost me exactly nothing to upgrade to, and the Desire will cost a little (a lot) more than I can currently afford.
My question is, do I look for a way to afford the Desire or go for the Legend?
Please give your vote and a comment/reason, or suggest a third/fourth.... device instead (X10 was considered and disgarded due to lack of multitouch and because I don't want to be left in the dust with Android 1.6 until september).
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Well, it's upgrade time on my contract, and I have narrowed it (quite easily) down to two devices, the Legend and the Desire.
The legend will cost me exactly nothing to upgrade to, and the Desire will cost a little (a lot) more than I can currently afford.
My question is, do I look for a way to afford the Desire or go for the Legend?
Please give your vote and a comment/reason, or suggest a third/fourth.... device instead (X10 was considered and disgarded due to lack of multitouch and because I don't want to be left in the dust with Android 1.6 until september).
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i would go for the legend
because, 1ghz snapdragon processor, its newer so will be supported longer by htc, better battery life (legends is s***)
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You meant desire, right?
Otherwise there is no sense in your sentence
Well that depends on how much you have to pay for the desire. Let me sum up for you what the desire has and the legend doesn't.
Desire:
Flash support, 1Ghz snapdragon, bigger screen thus resulting in more space for fingers to land in..... higher resolution 480 X 800 WVGA RAM: 576 MB
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Legend
No flash support (well probably it wel get flash from xda members. But according to adobe it won't run smooth on the legend and our hero's)
600Mhz processor, same screen size as hero 320 x 480 HVGA only 384 mb ram
Hope that helps you out a bit.
If you have a hero and you would buy a legend you'd only see some improvement in the speed section, it's probably not fully capable to run future android version (and the desire is since it's able to run flash 10)
If you buy a desire you buy the fastest htc around, with probably more support in later versions.
If I was in your position,... I'd switch to a sim only contract, then wait for something similar to the incredible.
I was planning on getting a desire this month,... but am still happy with my hero (even more now its overclocked).
I reckon I'll be happy for another 3 - 6 months yet. I'd just like a slightly better camera,.... n a hardware keyboard would be nice.
I know, I know,... you could end up waiting forever wanting something slightly better then whats currently on the market to come out.
None of them.
I'm looking forward to devices like the samsung galaxy S, Lumigon t1, Motorola Shadow.
My next device won't be one from HTC.
I'm watching how often HTC is updating their new devices, desire and legend. If they do it better than they do it on hero right now, my device after the next device will be one from HTC again.
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None of them.
I'm looking forward to devices like the samsung galaxy S, Lumigon t1, Motorola Shadow.
My next device won't be one from HTC.
I'm watching how often HTC is updating their new devices, desire and legend. If they do it better than they do it on hero right now, my device after the next device will be one from HTC again.
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None of them wasn't an option, if you don't have anything to do rather then put htc on your blacklist that's you're choice, don't try to decide for others.
And samsung never ever released an update afaik so have fun with your never upgradebla samsung. And I haven't seen motorola giving any updates either.
Stop nagging
If I were you I would go for the Desire, unless another Snapdragon is due to b integrated into devices then you are at least going to get enough time with the latest handset during your contract before you start seeing thinks like 2.2+ render you phone old...
Something with 720p video, a snapdragon cpu and 2.1 shipped, wouldn't go a miss!
I also considered the X10 for the cracking cameras Sony add but like you say the 2.1 update is a a fair bit off, and they haven't even rooted it yet afaik..
I had a quick go on a mates Desire, and its defiantly faster and the bigger screen is nice but I didn't feel it was the amazing leap over the Hero that most people have made it out to be. If there is no rush I would defiantly wait another 6 months to see whats available then. Maybe the 2.2 update will wow me more but thats just my current opinion.
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None of them.
I'm looking forward to devices like the samsung galaxy S, Lumigon t1, Motorola Shadow.
My next device won't be one from HTC.
I'm watching how often HTC is updating their new devices, desire and legend. If they do it better than they do it on hero right now, my device after the next device will be one from HTC again.
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Agree.. + don't forget that htc is using cheap hardware (eg: SoC*, display**), so if you want pure performance go with an ARM Cortex + PowerVR.
* i prefer the arm cortex + power vr combination, even motorola milestone at 550 Mhz is better (thanks to PowerVR) on some tasks than the over hyped snapdragon cpu.
** see the multiple videos that show the multitouch bug, htc is using a cheap dualtouch display ..
I don't trust anymore qualcomm/htc combination. tired of crap performance.
So, my next device will be one with ARM Cortex + PowerVR + a proper multitouch display (eg: such as in motorola milestone). If you want true performance I recommend you this combination.
Neither for me..
The Desire has a pentile AMOLED display that isn't TRUE WVGA (RGB subpixels in one pixel)
Both the Desire and Legend use ClearPad 2000 for their touch screens which do not have proper multitouch support (same problem with N1)
I'd wait a little longer for the next round of FroYo devices
Just saw this on Gizmodo and it looks like my replacement for Vibrant. http://gizmodo.com/5725053/samsungs-sgh+i997-uh-why-wasnt-this-awesome-phone-the-new-nexus I know there are some that say they will never buy Samsung again with all the Froyo crap they've pulled but I've had Froyo for a good 2 months now and I'm sure I'll have Gingerbread soon. The only thing that would be better would be a dual-core system.
seems like a minor upgrade, spec wise, and i'm not sure if the bigger screen would fly for me
I like the specs, wish it has dual core and is with T-mobile.
I like the form factor and screen size, but single core?
Don't blame me, blame my keyboard's autocorrection algorithm.
Just means T-Mobile will be coming out with a device like this too. Lets face it.Vibrant is old news already. Hate how you buy the best android device out and 2 weeks later its already old news!
Killing Zombies with my Voodoo Vibrant!
That is so sweet. The amoled plus screen is awsome. Just think of that phone on our network with voodoo. I dont have the link because i just deleted it from my reader, but att is releasing a htc with dual core running at 1000 mhz.
Fear the beard...
Tmobile is getting something with a "+" label on it as well from Samsung:
http://www.tmonews.com/2011/01/two-new-samsungs-on-the-horizon/
Don't know what...
But we are also getting the Tegra 2 LG...
I like the look and I like the specs but I don't think its enough of an upgrade to warrant replacing my vibrant. I HIGHLY doubt its running gingerbread either. Probably 2.2 or god forbid 2.1.
Samsung may have the best screens on the planet but their update schedule is very poor. They're even worse than motorola. 4.5 inches isn't enough to get me to buy another touchwiz device. Show me 4.5 Vanilla android and then we're talking.
Way too big for me. 4.5 would be ridiculously big.
Also, bigger and better screen, combined with a higher spec'd single core cpu. I can only imagine how anemic the battery life is going to be. Not to mention the fact that it's Samsung we're talking about here IE: No updates, ****ty RFS, Touchwiz.
They fooled me once, never again. I don't care if it has a 3d hologram coming out of the screen. NEVER again Samsung!
Too big for me. The Vibrant is pretty much the limit for comfortable one-handed operation for me.
1080p recording. I wonder if we could swap camerras.
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It gets rid of the PenTile Matrix! Thank god. That is the worst feature of the Super AMOLED screen. Nothing like a screen door effect and lower effective resolution to damage a screen. A normal RGB layout will look phenomenal with the Super AMOLED. Now they just need to upgrade the actual resolution. I think a 1280 x 720 resolution on the 4"+ screens would be ideal.
At this point and after the rumors the other day about honeycomb requiring dual core, I wouldn't consider anything without a dual core a worthy upgrade to the vibrant.
Only thing I see this is good for is official froyo, then again we have the leaks anyways and without that crappy rfs. May be a porthole to official gingerbread since the specs other than the screen should be the same, that is is it gets gingergread .
Once again, it has great hardware, but RFS, TouchWiz and the inevitable lack of software support are major turn-offs.
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I wonder how great super amoled plus is. And that 4.5 inch, damn it.
Yea, a Single Core CPU is not future proof enough. 200MHz is not worth it (probably just an overclocked Hummingbird, Lulz).
If it's only a 512 RAM device then it will have only 326 MB of RAM for the system which isn't enough - not falling for the Vibrant gimmick again.
Moto is releasing a Dual Core 1GB RAM HSPA+ phone on AT&T, though.
I'll probably switch carriers to get that one when it releases.
BTW, thses AT&T phones have 21mbps HSPA+ radios in them, not the 14.4mbps radios in the T-Mobile G2/MT4G. AT&T's HSPA+ network is probably twice to 3x the size of T-Mobile's.
They need to find a way to put 17-1900 mAh batteries in these phones.
Specs and screen sizes going up, with more stuff in them, but battery sizes staying the same. Sorry, I'm not going to depend on an SoC change to give decent battery life on the same battery size going from device to device...
god damn 4.5? are they trying to turn a phone into a tablet or something?
how large is vibrants screen?
my friends already tell me why the hell i need such a big screen for the vibrant.. but 4.5.. this phone's for giants only it looks sleek though.
Vibrant is 4" and the Dell Streak is 5" so 4.5 isn't all that big. It's barely bigger than the HD2/HD7 and if you compare the screen sizes on the HD2 to the Vibrant it isn't all that big.
I actually prefer 4" as the max for a WVGA screen since that resolution doesn't tend to look that good on devices with very large screens...
I tried the Atrix and HTC Inspire in-store, and while I absolutely want an upgrade, I'm not convinced either is good enough, and am looking beyond to the next wave of Android phones on AT&T, unless nothing better is coming anytime soon.
I am subject to an odd process where I put in for an upgrade now and will get approval in four months, at which point I get to choose a new phone, which means I merely need to know that a phone I want will be available four months from now. If a good phone is coming in 5 or 6 months, it makes sense to wait, otherwise, I can put in now and see, four months from now, if the Atrix's bootloader has been smashed to hell and good custom ROMs are available, and if not, get an Inspire.
So, what good-looking Android phone are here or on the way. Here's what I've been able to determine, with pros and cons:
Motorola Atrix
Available Now
Pros:
Dual core 1 GHz Tegra 2
1 GB RAM
Fingerprint scanner
Front-facing camera
"4"G
HDMI out
Giant battery - 1930 mAh
16 GB internal memory
Highest resolution screen - 540 x 960
Gorilla Glass
Cons:
Past experience with AT&T says that custom ROMs will be few and far between
Froyo (and lack of ROMs means we can't fix this ourselves)
Slow webtop experience (we can't, yet, fix ourselves)
Internet speeds were terrible in store
4-inch screen (not necessarily a bad thing, but a point to consider)
HTC Inspire
Available Now
Pros:
4.3-inch screen (bigger than the Atrix)
HTC (ROMs galore!)
8 Megapixel camera (Atrix has 5)
Cons:
No front camera
Much smaller battery - 1230 mAh
4 GB internal memory
1 GHz Snapdragon single core processor
768 MB RAM
Lower screen resolution than the Atrix - 480 x 800
Lousy speakerphone
No HDMI
Samsung Infuse
Available Mid-2011
Pros:
1.2 GHz Hummingbird (single core, but faster)
8 Megapixel camera with 1080p video
Front facing camera - 1.3 Megapixels (four times the Atrix)
Super AMOLED Plus screen
Decent battery (1750 mAH)
As flashable as any Samsung (much better than Motorola)
16 GB internal memory
Cons:
4.5 inch screen (tablet territory, some may love it)
Lower screen resolution than the Atrix - 480 x 800
Only one core
RAM unknown
LG Optimus 2X
Availability: Who knows?
Pros:
Tegra 2, like the Atrix
Decent 1500 mAH battery
HDMI out
Gyroscope
Cons:
No carriers announced
8 GB internal memory
Samsung Galaxy S2
Availability: Q2
Pros:
Ships with Gingerbread
Exynos 1 GHz dual core processor
4.3-inch Super AMOLED Plus display with Gorilla Glass
16 GB internal memory, 32 GB on some models
8 Megapixel camera with 1080p video and image stabilization
Front facing camera - 2 megapixels, almost 7X the Atrix
Gyroscope
Excellent 1630 mAH battery (no Atrix, but pretty good)
Quad core GPU
NFC (some versions)
HDMI out
Bluetooth 3.0
Cons:
Lower resolution than the Atrix - 480x800
Not yet announced for AT&T (but probably coming)
Looking at all that, I'm thinking that the best bet is that the only true Atrix competitor is the S2, and assume that it will come out mide July, like the Captivate. I can put in for an upgrade in late March, which should give the S2 enough time to come to market and be reviewed, plus the Atrix to hopefully get some ROMs, and make the call.
Are there any other phones worth looking forward to? Is there any other reason to choose the Inspire or Infuse, or to not put my chips on the Atrix or Infuse?
There is always going to be a group of new phones coming out soon. I'd say just pick the one you like the most at the time. If something else you can't live without comes out in a few months (and it will) just sell the phone you bought to cover most of the out of contract price of your next one.
I returned my Inspire to get the Atrix so that's where I stand there.
I would never buy another Samsung Android device unless the show a commitment to upgrading. They tend to just want you to buy the next phone instead.
LG Optimus looks nice, but I hate LG phones so I'd stay away. Generally poor build quality and software.
These questions may be better answered in the General forum, not the Atrix specific General forum.
In here you are limiting your population to people that are looking about Atrix specific stuff.
I'm typing this on my inspire. Saying that, I love it a lot. It is my first android, and in my opinion probably the best way to enter it.
My only complaint is the battery. Even being small, it does power management well and lasts longer than my dads iphone 3gs. (maybe some debate if that's froyo I guess)
With rooting/roms, I'm sure I could make the battery last longer by removing bloat ware and stuff.
the way I see it, phones are out matched months after they come out. Better phones will be developed even after phones are announced. That's what competition does to technology. So why torture yourself thinking about what MAY come out, when months later better suff will be out.
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Good points all around.
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These questions may be better answered in the General forum, not the Atrix specific General forum.
In here you are limiting your population to people that are looking about Atrix specific stuff.
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Perhaps. I guess what I'm really asking is that, now that the Atrix is available and people have tried it out, do they still want the Atrix, or is it worth waiting just a couple more months?
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There is always going to be a group of new phones coming out soon.
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antioch216 said:
the way I see it, phones are out matched months after they come out. Better phones will be developed even after phones are announced. That's what competition does to technology. So why torture yourself thinking about what MAY come out, when months later better suff will be out.
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Absolutely. I think that what it comes down to is:
The Atrix got us all very excited, but the excitement is fading under a number of negatives:
1 - terrible pricing on the dock and tethering policy
2 - Motorola's pointless signing of the bootloader, which only removes value from the device
3 - the laptop dock has a lot of dissapointments (touchpad, speed)
On the other hand, the Atrix is still an incredible phone, and it goes us excited for some great reasons:
1 - killer processor
2 - huge battery
3 - unique features (docks, fingerprint reader)
4 - somewhat rare features (front facing camera, lots of internal [non-MicroSD] storage, HDMI out)
What makes it tough is the Galaxy S2, which doesn't have the unique features, but has everything else the Atrix has and more
Vs. Atrix:
Atrix negatives:
2 - Samsung's are easier to load custom ROMs on
Atrix positives:
1 - Also has a killer processor, one that, when tested, could even beat the Atrix
2 - Larger than average battery
4 - better rare features (better front facing camera, more internal storage
And its own positives:
1 - better camera
2 - Super AMOLED plus screen (amazing bright colors, lower power usage)
3 - bigger screen
4 - Gyroscope
5 - 1080p video
And just one known negative:
1 - Lower resolution screen
So, what this thread should really be is:
Do you still want the Atrix, or do you plan on waiting just 5 months for the Galaxy S2?
My upgrade date is in three days, I'm hoping that they'll crack the bootloader issue for the atrix pretty soon, I will not buy the phone without it.
The only real con I see for the Atrix is the lack of an LTE radio on it, if you get one you'll be stuck with it for the next two years ( unless you want to pay full price ) and LTE should be up and running ( in some areas ) in that time frame.
Even though I've been an ATT customer for 8 years I hold no loyalty to them, I'm waiting for more info to come on the HTC " pyramid " and could switch to T-Mobile if that phone has a bigger battery than the pathetic things that HTC puts in them now. We all know HTC seems to be the devs favorite brand and CM would positively fly on a dual core phone.
After owning a Craptivate I wont even consider another Samsung phone. I don't care how impressive the specs are Samsung will find a way to screw it up. If you don't like the Atrix then just wait a few months for the next great HTC phone. The Inspire is nice, but it' s just a lightly upgraded Evo and cant compete with the Atrix.
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After owning a Craptivate I wont even consider another Samsung phone. I don't care how impressive the specs are Samsung will find a way to screw it up. If you don't like the Atrix then just wait a few months for the next great HTC phone. The Inspire is nice, but it' s just a lightly upgraded Evo and cant compete with the Atrix.
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I love HTC, and really wanted my next phone to be an HTC. But I feel like I can't rely on them to bring good hardware to AT&T. My current phone is their Rhodium, and since then I've seen:
Droid Incredible - Looks great, not on AT&T
Desire Z - Great keyboard, not on AT&T
Evo - Kinda special at the time, but not on AT&T
7 Pro - Amazing keyboard, probably never coming to AT&T
Aria - Wonderful phone, my wife loves it, but not for power users
I felt like HTC all of a sudden decided it hated AT&T. Now we've got two new ones:
Inspire - updated Evo, decent but old hat, doesn't stand up to the other phones released at the time
Thunderbolt - slightly better than the Inspire, not coming to AT&T
I hope HTC comes up with something special by summer, but I'm not holding my breath. I am on my fourth consecutive HTC phone, and right now, it looks like my last.
Which would you get? Both are supposed to come out October 26th. Both have Gingerbread. Amaze has Sense 3.5, SGSII has TWIZ. Almost all the specs are same. The main difference I see is that the Amaze has a 1.5 dual core processor. The SGSII has been listed on some sites with 1.2 and on others with 1.5. If it is 1.2, I think the Amaze may be my choice.
The Amaze would also be my choice since Samsung has waited so long to release the GSII here, and they've refused to acknowledged the GPS issue with the Vibrant. I think my "never again" protest will be to actually never again purchase a Samsung product. Or at least not this time around.
I also don't like the 4.5" screen size that the SGSII for T-Mo is coming with. AT&T seems to be the only US carrier with enough sense in their heads to keep it at 4.3". Is the Amaze also supposed to be 4.5" of over-sized ridiculousness?
The issue isn't really the screen size, IMO. The issue is the screen resolution. They are increasing sizes to epic proportions, but not increasing the resolution which degrades video on the screen compared to 4-4.3" devices. 4.3" @ WVGA is already borderline for me. I require qHD for a 4.5-4.7" screen. It's just that simple. The phoen can be the hottest thing since sliced bread, but the screen is what I look at all the time I look at it. Vibrant colors aren't enough anymore. Need a better PPI.
If I had a choice, and if the Amaze does have 16GB internal storage... It's pretty much a no brainer. Amaze it is.
Only thing I don't like is that HTC Sense has become cluttered as **** lately. I used my Mom's inspire and got knocked the **** out when I long pressed on the home screen. There was so much crap there...
4.3-inch qHD display, a dual-core 1.5GHz processor, an 8-megapixel camera, 2 MP FFC, 16GB of storage, 1GB of RAM and HSPA+ 42 are specs for the HTC Amaze
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The Amaze would also be my choice since Samsung has waited so long to release the GSII here, and they've refused to acknowledged the GPS issue with the Vibrant. I think my "never again" protest will be to actually never again purchase a Samsung product. Or at least not this time around.
I also don't like the 4.5" screen size that the SGSII for T-Mo is coming with. AT&T seems to be the only US carrier with enough sense in their heads to keep it at 4.3". Is the Amaze also supposed to be 4.5" of over-sized ridiculousness?
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OMG, yea.. that .2" is the deal breaker for me! Especially considering that is measured diagonally! That is like .1" in each direction! And yes.. that is sarcasm. I don't think that .2" should be a defining characteristic to anyone unless the device itself gets significantly bigger than that as a whole.
I am not sure that this is the same on all devices(phones, tablets, pc/macs) but I am pretty sure THIS "--" is longer than .2". If you don't believe me, go find a ruler or tape measure, or I am pretty sure there is an app for that.. .2" is nothing.
Anyways, THAT aside.. I will agree to an extent that as screen size gets bigger, so should the resolution or ppi.. but then again it would have to significantly increase in size before you notice any degradation in quality. Yes, the iPhone has its "whatever the hell it's called" display(too tired lazy to remember/look it up), and MAYBE it is noticeable compared to devices like the vibrant.. but increasing to a 4.5" device isn't going to be a huge downgrade by far.
Besides, I haven't even considered the HTC amaze 4g.. why? I haven't heard it is coming to t-mobile(pretty sure it isn't..). I am not going to switch carriers for a phone.. the phone I buy is based on the carriers, what they offer, and the prices.. so is it coming for tmo? If not, than what reason do you have to switch to their carrier BESIDES the phone?
/rant. Too tired for this anyways.
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4.3-inch qHD display, a dual-core 1.5GHz processor, an 8-megapixel camera, 2 MP FFC, 16GB of storage, 1GB of RAM and HSPA+ 42 are specs for the HTC Amaze
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Aren't all of those the same specs the same that the prime is supposed to have, except for a 5mp camera(with a better sensor instead)? Except it will have ice cream sandwich? Haven't we learned anything from our vibrants? Buy a device that is either truly superior, or starts off with a better software upgrade.. I would rather have something that will software-wise be superior and equal or better hardware wise..
Not sure why my distaste for 4.5" displays twisted your panties so tightly, but have you ever held a phone that size in your hand? I have, and it wasn't comfortable. I'm not all that fond of the 4.3" size either, but its a little less of an adjustment to get used to, since I know several people with phones that size and have had a chance to compare them to my Vibrant. Rant about factual errors all you like; keep your rants about other people's preferences between your ears (doing that also has the added benefit of making it less obvious there's plenty of room there for rants to knock around).
The Amaze was called Ruby during development, if I'm not mistaken, and yes, its coming to T-Mo. So start thinking about it.
Sent from my rough sketch of a Vibrant on a brick.
rbtady said:
4.3-inch qHD display, a dual-core 1.5GHz processor, an 8-megapixel camera, 2 MP FFC, 16GB of storage, 1GB of RAM and HSPA+ 42 are specs for the HTC Amaze
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If these are accurate, this will be my next phone... if I can keep myself from buying a Sensation, that is.
Sent from my rough sketch of a Vibrant on a brick.
ill be buying a hercules!!
And having fun at #NeverAgain 2.0 after they release the Galaxy S 2.5 4-5 months later for forget about your T-Mobile model that has different hardware components from basically all the other variants?
AT&T are setting themselves up good with their model. They're sticking pretty close to the international variant there...
Based on the HD recording abilities, the Amaze is looking pretty nice.
Both phones are officially coming out on October 12th, pre-sale online/phone on the 10th. Amaze is $259 after rebate, galaxy S II is $229.
Price difference aside... I have no idea which I'm going to buy yet. I really like my Vibrant and wouldn't really hesitate to buy another Samsung device. On the other side, I like the screen resolution on the Amaze.
I like the fact that Cyanogen works at Samsung now, and how quickly Samsung has been with releasing source for their Galaxy S II phones (although not the T-Mobile variant yet from what I can tell).
I haven't had experience with HTC since the G1, are they as good at modding as the Samsung devices right now?
Amaze. It's an HTC and the specs are literally identical except the Amaze has a qHD 4.3" SLCD Screen vs. 4.52" WVGA SAMOLED+ and the Amaze has a superior camera.
Gonna have to go with the Amaze 4G, provided I even decide to waste another Year+ with T-Mobile.
However, it's rumored that the Galaxy SII has support for AT&T UMTS/HSPA+ Bands, as well.
If that's the case, I'll get the GSII and ETF after a month and move to AT&T, since T-Mobile has less bloatware they put on their devices... Only two GSM Carriers here so a T-Mobile phoen with all brands is as good as an Unlocked, Unbranded device...
If the Amaze 4G has those bands as well, then it's a blow-out. There's also the possibility to just get a Cheap Atrix 4G and call it a day. With the updates those run decently now.
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Which would you get? Both are supposed to come out October 26th. Both have Gingerbread. Amaze has Sense 3.5, SGSII has TWIZ. Almost all the specs are same. The main difference I see is that the Amaze has a 1.5 dual core processor. The SGSII has been listed on some sites with 1.2 and on others with 1.5. If it is 1.2, I think the Amaze may be my choice.
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The correct CPU is 1.5 Ghz Dual Core Qualcomm, which is basically the same on both the Galaxy S2 and Amaze
many of those blog sites are waaaaaaaay outdated
I'll go for the Galaxy S2 (hercules) for the SAMOLED+ screen, the Amaze uses sLCD
other than that, both phone are almost identical
with minal difference in the battery the Hercules has 1850mAh can be upgraded to 2000 mAh (original by samsung) without changing battery cover, Amaze is 1730 (less juice)
more amaze details here http://htc.t-mobile.com/amaze-camera-phone
personally i'm going for the Galaxy S2 (hercules)
So which is better? AMOLED plus or the LCD Screen? Both appear to have 1080 HD recording, but does the Amaze have better picture taking abilities? Finally, the Galaxy S II isn't listed as having NFC in its specs on the t-mobile website.
http://galaxy-s.t-mobile.com/samsung-galaxy-s2
AllGamer said:
The correct CPU is 1.5 Ghz Dual Core Qualcomm, which is basically the same on both the Galaxy S2 and Amaze
many of those blog sites are waaaaaaaay outdated
I'll go for the Galaxy S2 (hercules) for the SAMOLED+ screen, the Amaze uses sLCD
other than that, both phone are almost identical
with minal difference in the battery the Hercules has 1850mAh can be upgraded to 2000 mAh (original by samsung) without changing battery cover, Amaze is 1730 (less juice)
more amaze details here http://htc.t-mobile.com/amaze-camera-phone
personally i'm going for the Galaxy S2 (hercules)
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HTC needs to stick with the people who made the Droid incredible 2 super lcd screen. Those displays are spectacular. I don't think I'll be going with the amaze 4g. Sense is nice the amaze has 3.5 sense no idea what's the difference between 3.0 and 3.5. I know partially that sense 3.5 doesn't have hardware limitations. Besides the screen size and the UI overlays the phones are the essentially the same. I'm still going for this phone so tired of HTC's hit and misses on phones.
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I agree the Amaze 4G is clearly a better phone but why is it SO FAT and heavy! Look at its dimensions...nearly a small brick in fatness and it weighs 176g without any sort of sliding keyboard or anything. It's weight is not even in battery as the battery is a 1730mah or 1750mah...not even the 1850mah that the Hercules has.
I'm a little dissappoint in the physical design on the phone. Wish Samsung would have crammed a 720p screen on the Hercules and then we would not even be talking about this. Sigh.
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So which is better? AMOLED plus or the LCD Screen? Both appear to have 1080 HD recording, but does the Amaze have better picture taking abilities? Finally, the Galaxy S II isn't listed as having NFC in its specs on the t-mobile website.
http://galaxy-s.t-mobile.com/samsung-galaxy-s2
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wait....
you are mixing up 2 things
SAMOLED+ vs. sLCD screens has nothing to do with 1080p Video Recording
a screen it's just a screen its function is only to display stuff, not record
the recording part is done by the camera and the video encoding chip inside the phone
as for the NFC it's part there it has been shown here, but it might or might not be right
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Samsung-Galaxy-S-II-T-Mobile_id5541
another source
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/17/unannounced-samsung-hercules-headed-to-t-mobile-bearing-godli/
HTC Amaze 4g
Hercules FTW
Hercules is better lower res means more speed bigger battery more use an upgradeable to 2000 an Samoled + an nice design an the have a better layout
dan1son said:
Both phones are officially coming out on October 12th, pre-sale online/phone on the 10th. Amaze is $259 after rebate, galaxy S II is $229.
Price difference aside... I have no idea which I'm going to buy yet. I really like my Vibrant and wouldn't really hesitate to buy another Samsung device. On the other side, I like the screen resolution on the Amaze.
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TBH - most of the reviews I've seen about the Sensation/Amaze screen state that they are inferior to the SGSII - regardless of the resolution. LCD is simply an inferior technology.