Hi,
My daughter's G1 has started to develop an issue with the screen (two months out of warranty...). The screen doesn't appear to be refreshing properly and there are several lines or what appear to be previous screens running horizontally across it when closed. This is started as a problem when the phone was closed and appeared to disappear when it was open, but it is now happening either open or closed. I'm pretty sure the phones been dropped a few times.
Is is worth me opening it up and checking the seating of the ribbon cable connectors or does this sound like a more serious fault?
help! same issue
not finding much info on the interwebs, but having the same problem. My display appears to be interlacing horizontal lines of the widescreen and normal (closed) views. Also when moving between homescreens, apps menu and status bar. Any help, links, etc is appreciated.
-mike
Re-seating the ribbon cable hasn't made much of a difference. Can anyone suggest where the fault is likely to be? I don't want to shell out £20 for a ribbon cable only to find out it was the screen or main board.
I had this problem with an lcd that cracked... not all the screen was messed up just the bottom half... but the top had vertical lines jump from nowhere (red and green i think, its been a while) and the screen would almost always have a faded lockscreen in the back
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Hi,
I am still trying to resolve an on going screen problem.:-((
When I have my Universal opened up on my desk the volume and phone dialogs and occasionally the anolog/digital clock dialog keep on appearing and disappearing.
Some times it hardly happens at all and other times it is contant, to the point that the touchscreen won't respond to other input.
When in PDA mode I get a similar situation from the same edge of the screen, but this time the scroll bars go mad.
Previous posts here have suggested either grit in the edge of the screen or dirty contacts. I have pulled the screen apart and cleaned all the contacts as well as cleaned the edge of the screen and the case around the 'affected' area.
Since the problem seems to be down to one particular area of the screen - is it more likely to be pressure from the case or a connection issue.
I'm inclined to think it is pressure from the case, but don't know much about how the touch screen matrix works.
Any help with this would be appreciated - at the moment the screen problems are rending the device pretty unusable.
Surely someone here mush have some ideas, this is driving me mad.
Currently running with the back of the screen off and prodding and pocking at connections to see if it makes any difference, but doesn't seem to.
Next stop is to strip down the base to see if there are any issues with the connection of the screen cable on the main board.
The frustrating thing is that the problem seem to appear and disappear - sometimes it if fine and then other times the dialogs are appearing.
When I have the dialogs appearing I try opening and flipping the phone back and forth and sometimes it goes back to normal but more often than not it doesn't.
The first thing that I want to establish is what is likely to be causing the icon area screen to appear as though it is being pressed?
Cheers,
Julian
I'm definitely no hardware expert but my Universal showed a similar behaviour a few days ago and I'm quite sure it has something to do with the case and/or the cable(s) between the screen part and the main body of the device.
In my case, only a small part of the touchscreen (lower left corner) remains working and the speaker on the display side also refused to work anymore. I've applied some pressure on the edges of the display and the speaker "slowly" began to work again... and so the touchscreen did.
Good luck :?
.ox
Is your phone now working properly?
I have had the screen apart, but do major change. Next stop strip the whole thing down.
I'm starting to suspect the cable, but cannot see any obvious problem with it.
Yes, currently my phone works perfectly.
Did you check the connectors "inside" the display part of the phone (e.g. receiver, ...)?
.ox
Hi,
I have opened up the back of the screen and checked the connections of the ribon cable to either side of the screen and also checked the connection of the actual screen to the circuit board.
It would be useful to know a bit more about how the touch screen side of things work bearing in mind that only one corner of the touch screen is being affected.
I'm going to try to strip down the whole phone and check the connections on both ends of the cable between the screen and the main unit to see if that makes any difference.
Well, I have stripped down the phone and cleaned the connections on both ends of the cable between the screen and the main board and at first for a day or so the problem appeared to have gone away, but now it is back.
I am starting to suspect that it is a problem with the actual cable, possibly a loose connection in the wires - the connectors appear OK and problem appears and disappears when the screen is flipped.
I read here that you cannot buy the cables seperately - is this true?
The next option is to take the cable out and either check all the connections and repair it, however it is a random fault so difficult the trace.
The other option I have considered is to bind the cable tightly with PTFE pumbers tape which is thin enough not to cause any problems, the PTFE will bit will help when flipping the screen and binding it might (hopefully) ensure any loose connections don't remain loose.
Any other ideas from here?
I took apart my tytn, including the screen part.
After reassembling it, I've had random issues related to the keypad and screen.
By keypad, I mean all the keys on the screen part of the phone (D-pad, call/hangup,soft left/right, Internet Explorer & Email).
They will randomly cease working and randomly restart working (usually after turn on/off the screen with the power button)
The screen will also randomly turn white and come back on only if I turn off the screen and then back on.
Im thinking it has to do with a loose connection somewhere in the screen section of the phone, however, Ive taken it apart 2 more times to check everything out and the problem persists.
I wonder if anyone experienced the same thing and found which specific internal is the issue.
i would like to know too cause my buttons just stopped working. so the talk, end, message, Internet explorer, ect. but the left down up right and center button work.
I have the exact same issue.
All the keys (not keybord keys) randomly stops working. I am so used to it now, that I dont even try to answer the phone with the green key button.
The screen fades to white, sometimes (maybe 1-3 times a day).
The screen is white when awakening from "sleep mode", turning on and off the screen fixes that after a while (50% of the time white screen when from sleep mode).
I have found out that putting a finger nail between the keyboard and the screen, on the right hand side, when in closed position, and then putting the screen back on, gives me a 99% chance of funktional display.
The problem also accurs in the "full keyboard position", But putting the finger nail in the same spot helps.
So I think the problem of the connection is in the keyboard part of the phone, since those slide contact always are on the right hand side, and the display contact shift side.
I would lite to know if any body have a permanent solution for this.
(I have now opend my phone yet, and I have tryed the putting thin plastic between the display and the cover, with minimal success)
thanks for your time
alkizmo said:
I took apart my tytn, including the screen part.
After reassembling it, I've had random issues related to the keypad and screen.
By keypad, I mean all the keys on the screen part of the phone (D-pad, call/hangup,soft left/right, Internet Explorer & Email).
They will randomly cease working and randomly restart working (usually after turn on/off the screen with the power button)
The screen will also randomly turn white and come back on only if I turn off the screen and then back on.
Im thinking it has to do with a loose connection somewhere in the screen section of the phone, however, Ive taken it apart 2 more times to check everything out and the problem persists.
I wonder if anyone experienced the same thing and found which specific internal is the issue.
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These are the exact symptoms of the "SCREEN FADING INTO WHITE" problem. See this thread for more info: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=303872
The common causes for this are a bad connection to the D-PAD controller PCB (in the technical manual they mention it should be carefully checked and the really small screews with same torque making a 90 degree with the PCB), a bad controller (that was my case, had to order a new one) or not enough pressure on the square black chip on controller (some people seem to have fixed it by putting a plastic sheet in between the chip and the case, to apply constant pressure).
I suggest you try to re-open your phone and reconnect the D-PAD PCB as carefully as you can, double checking the connection and the screws there.
I did fix my problem, by ordering a new PCB and replacing the old (probably bad) one. It started to happen after I dropped my phone and it's the only thing that worked. Now my phone is as good as new.
Hope this helps!
Similar Issues with screen
I have similar issues;
Anything thats on the foreground gets closed by the 'x' button and if I slide it open the start button gets continually pressed!
Seems to be the top right corner of my TS thats at fault
sometimes it's fine....most of the time its not!
Andy.
I have the same! I have a huge dead spot in the middle of my (Tytn) screen, and if you tap there it actually activates the "ok" in the top right corner. The rest of the screen works ok. Whilst drawing in notes any drawing near the center dead spot results in a streak to the top right hand corner...
Bad screen?
Bad rom?
Bad motherboard?
lepic2019 said:
I have the same! I have a huge dead spot in the middle of my (Tytn) screen, and if you tap there it actually activates the "ok" in the top right corner. The rest of the screen works ok. Whilst drawing in notes any drawing near the center dead spot results in a streak to the top right hand corner...
Bad screen?
Bad rom?
Bad motherboard?
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You can rule out the ROM and M/board in my view for this specific problem. Your issue is very similar (and I think has the same cause) as those who find programs close randomly when in portrait mode and when they open the keyboard the start menu often pops up untapped.
I think this is just a case of a bit of pressure being put on the screen top right corner. Some folks have tried the business card run around under the bezel fix and had some success others have had to return for replacement/repair.
Some have taken the device apart and removed the gasket around the screen under the bezel, but this is not guaranteed to work.
Others have replaced the screen and for this particular problem it is very rarely successful as the screen is not normally damaged.
If you have a warranty use it - all of the above "fixes" are warranty voiding.
Mike
Hi Mike
It's an interesting problem as when performing a click and drag in Notes (drawing mode) the center section of the screen seems to work normally - a square box can select an area right through the middle of the screen - suggesting that the screen (as you say) is OK. So what is causing the a tap in the middle of the screen to register in the top right hand corner, when we now know that the center of the screen can work and respond in the correct manner. The size of the affected area is about the size of a thumb print EXACTLY in the middle. Personally I would like to believe that performing screen alignment 4 - 5 times a day for the past year has worn out the center dot and that is affecting the surrounding area. The trouble is that this fault has been reported on this site a few times now, and everyone says it's caused by something else! What did I do immediately before this happen I hear you ask? I flashed a new radio rom and was fiddling with a piece of card I have wedged down the RHS side of the screen to try and help stabilise the screen alignment. Since this problem arouse, I have removed the gasket - but that hasn't fixed it. I'm going to try and boot up the phone out of the casing to see what "zero" pressure applied to the screen does.
I'll report back...
Lepic.
lepic2019 said:
Hi Mike
It's an interesting problem as when performing a click and drag in Notes (drawing mode) the center section of the screen seems to work normally - a square box can select an area right through the middle of the screen - suggesting that the screen (as you say) is OK. So what is causing the a tap in the middle of the screen to register in the top right hand corner, when we now know that the center of the screen can work and respond in the correct manner. The size of the affected area is about the size of a thumb print EXACTLY in the middle. Personally I would like to believe that performing screen alignment 4 - 5 times a day for the past year has worn out the center dot and that is affecting the surrounding area. The trouble is that this fault has been reported on this site a few times now, and everyone says it's caused by something else! What did I do immediately before this happen I hear you ask? I flashed a new radio rom and was fiddling with a piece of card I have wedged down the RHS side of the screen to try and help stabilise the screen alignment. Since this problem arouse, I have removed the gasket - but that hasn't fixed it. I'm going to try and boot up the phone out of the casing to see what "zero" pressure applied to the screen does.
I'll report back...
Lepic.
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It will be interesting to see what results you get. You'll need the old rubber band technique to hold the battery in place while you do it!
Mike
Well it's not due to the case squishing the sides of the screen as I just dismantled my hermes, wired it all up in bits on my desk, powered it up and still the screen has a dead spot in the middle and phantom taps in the top right. Temperature is normal room temp, approx 22deg c today.
I'm not sure the exact mechanisms of how these touch screens work out where you are tapping (resistance, voltage), but it looks like there are 3 separate strips running around the screen. 1 goes straight across the bottom, two goes up the LHS and across the top and 3 goes up the RHS. Therefore there is a gap between strips 2 and 3 in the top RH corner. Coincidence? hmmm It seems to me for it to register a tap in the top RH corner, strips 2 and 3 would register low voltages (or high resistance) and bottom wouldn't register at all. Thus suggesting a fault with the PSU that powers the touchscreen. Taps near the edges work because they are near the edges and therefore the resistance is not too great and can be detected, taps in the middle and worse off because they are far from all the detecting edge strips.
Does anyone think that there might a registry tweak for boasting power to the touchscreen?
Hermes Whie Screen Problem
To fix the "white screen" problem, you have to take your unit apart, and reconnect the ribbon cable.
I have a new 8525 and it started happeneing to me, so I took it apart this week, and reseated the ribbon connector.
Fixed the problem.
Has anyone here read and understood all that is said here:
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-US/library/aa919680.aspx
Perhaps someone could compare the touch.dll in Black Majik to WM5 - should be the same right?
How come that HKLM/hardware/devicemap/touch doesn't show the touch.dll driver as drivername? Keyboard has it's driver...microsoft says it should say drivername = touch.dll
Do you all have that in your registry?
Today I noticed that my 8525 has a weird red tint on the screen whenever I close the keyboard. On the right hand side of the screen, there is a line, and everything to the right of the line has a weird red tint. If I open th phone slowly, the line dissapears at the same rate that i'm opening the phone. It almost seems like something underneath the screen is... pushing on it from below or something? Just a guess. Also the screen's alignment pretty much doesn't work at all anymore, like its the curser will either be on all the way to the left, or all the way to the right. never where i am pushing. Quite annoying.
Thanks for any help!
Me Too!
The same exact thing is happening to my phone too. Sometimes when I slide it back and forth a lot it will dissapear but come back again later when I move the slider. It appears when the slider is slightly off of the closed postition. It never appears when it is open. I think it may have too do with the cable being loose between the main body and the upper screen part or the magnet which detects the slider postition is interfering with the LCD. Any solutions yet?
Hello,
for first I've already read some topic covering the white screen problem. I have the white screen every time on my Hermes since booted. Going into bootloader also shows white screen. I don't see any signs of misalignment.
I've already taken apart my Hermes and reconnected all connectors I've seen, including D-Pad connector, tightening and loosening the screws by it. I see there's nothing else I can fix without replacing any parts (or am I wrong?) What should I buy? Do you think that the actual screen may be faulty? Or maybe the flex is damaged and I should buy it? (well I think that some chip is connected to flex so I don't know if it can be replaced anyway). My main question is: if the screen is all white, is it possible that the actual screen be faulty?
It could be a number of things which could amount to $$$$ by throwing parts at the phone - may be cheaper to just buy another. Before the completely all white screen did you have occasional white screens with increasing frequency? First try some of the fixes for correcting whitescreens - pressure on the dpad - etc. If you still get nothing the chip could have come loose - but who knows?!!!! Need some more information - history etc.
Unfortunately don't know the history... bought cheap off ebay hoping it can be easily fixed already ordered the screen, if no luck, will send as spares/repair in my country - should earn something anyway.
i have a fault with mine some times (well a lot now) when i open it or close it all the way i get a funny fuzzing on the screen and some times it just ends up going black, move it back and forth a bit and the screen collour is inverted. i have to press the power button twice once for off then back on and it stays normal collours till u move the screen again. is this called white screen?
Not really - yours should be an easy fix. Seems like the flex cable is either loose or cracked slightly. It only occurs when you slide the keyboard out right? Any problems with the front keypad - with the unit closed?
So, I guess I screwed with something on my phone, but my display now shows "color bleeding" mostly when i open the phone up in horizontal mode. Would this be a problem with the flex cable? if so, just replacing that cable should fix the problem right?
I am able to disassemble the whole phone no problem.
I am experiencing the exact same issue, its bloody annoying.
I'm fairly certain it is the ribbon, but I wouldn't know where to get a new one, so havn't tried swapping it yet.
Did try disassembling and cleaning it out a bit though, no luck
-Nipqer
Could you post a picture of what you're talking about?
Sadly enough, I do not have a camera other than the one on my dz... a screenshot wouldn't do anything since it just looks fine.. but it's something with the physical hardware part. I'll see if I can borrow a friend's camera when it happens again, but essentially the red and blue colors look like it's splotched in different parts and sometimes it even "pulsates"
it doesn't do it in vertical mode, but in horizontal mode.. it appears instantly.
Thanks to someone in another post that led me to the amazon link for the ribbon cable.. the phone now has no color bleed. Woohoo!
For those who want the link:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005IMHAGW/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00
It works great and looks exactly like the original.
I'm experiencing a slight color disfiguration. I traded my girlfriend my phone for a few days and when i got it back, the bottom half has a yellowish tint. Is the flex ribbon the reason why it's like this?
is it the same tint whether or not you're in vertical or horizontal (keyboard open) mode?
if so it might be your flex cable or it might be the actual screen itself.
Yeah, the yellow (and now with blue) tint is in both modes. lower half of both sides (vertical and horizontal)
wait, does the tint change on the screen? as in does the tint stay in the bottom half of the vertical screen and stays in the right half in horizontal? or does it shift so that it goes to the bottom half in horizontal? if it stays in the same physical space in both modes, then it might be the screen itself, but if it shifts.. it's most probably the flex cable.
yeah, it shifts. but now the blue and yellow lines is throughout the screen. initially, i thought it was a ROM thing, so i changed it to see it in a different rom.
sounds like a flex cable problem. I can't guarantee it since it's one of those "replace it and see if it works" deal.