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Im new to winmo can any one tell me if its possible to set my cpu scale..
Ive been studyin android, so this is a whole diffr ball game for me.
also id like to know what the best turn by turn navi on winmo
I am pretty sure it can be overclocked and underclocked. I have not spent any time looking at this but hopefully there is, or will be, an application available for this purpose. I'd love to actually scale the CPU down for most use then speed it back up to normal when I need it...like a profile activated type of thing, or maybe according to which applications I am using on the phone. There is something like this for Android and I have it on my Nexus One.
pinhead said:
I am pretty sure it can be overclocked and underclocked. I have not spent any time looking at this but hopefully there is, or will be, an application available for this purpose. I'd love to actually scale the CPU down for most use then speed it back up to normal when I need it...like a profile activated type of thing, or maybe according to which applications I am using on the phone. There is something like this for Android and I have it on my Nexus One.
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yea thatd b awesome, im so use to my android being able to do that hahha
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i really wanna get an android port to this amazing piece of technology
SimPRoBer20 said:
yea thatd b awesome, im so use to my android being able to do that hahha
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i really wanna get an android port to this amazing piece of technology
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+1 for the android, I am waiting with alot of hope! haha
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its 1 gigahertz what more do you need?
He needs to suck his battery power out!
kholk said:
He needs to suck his battery power out!
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Exact, already drains more than enough
To answer the question, no, there's no overclocking app that works on the HD2.
Really the answer is
"Yes, write an app and overclock it!"
....but I recommend not to do this, the HTC HD2 gets hot at 1GHz when doing intensive things, like executing flash content and remember that we aren't in the summer when the external temperature reaches over 37°C.
If it gets hot with an external temperature of 14°C, imagine at 37°C.
My PhenomX4 for example is overclocked (with overvoltage) from 2.5GHz (stock) to 3.4GHz (OC) and I remember that in the summer I had to put it at 2.8GHz because it got too much hot!
Winter: 32°C(idle) - 54°C (full load)
Summer: 53-55°C (idle). I didn't want to try at full load. lol
Anyway, remember that a PC CPU has got a huge cooler on it, while the SnapDragon hasn't got it and there isn't too much heat dissipation. Remember then that the SnapDragon is a mobile CPU that is supposed to work at a low temperature (PC CPUs are supposed to work at high temps) and it is supposed to NOT reach 45-50°C, so beware!
as far as the gps question goes... i use ALK's CoPilot 8. It's only $30 and is a full featured gps app. You get free live local search, free map updates and more. If you want live traffic info it's only $20 a year.
SimPRoBer20 said:
Im new to winmo can any one tell me if its possible to set my cpu scale..
Ive been studyin android, so this is a whole diffr ball game for me.
also id like to know what the best turn by turn navi on winmo
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Telenav works great for me. I use for free. If you know some one that has an unlimited sprint account u can log in using there phone number and the pw is the last 4 of of the number.
I'm be more interested in undervolting and underclocking it. The standard voltage is what is needed for ALL the processor chips to work at the speed, however most can use less than that voltage and still do the same speed and be stable.
I undervoltage my laptops and it makes them run cooler and get better battery life.
CDR123 said:
its 1 gigahertz what more do you need?
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we want it to actually run at 1ghz not 890 whatever. thats the main thing about the HD2 and Nexus. I waited for this to come out so i can get it mod it and run it at its full potential.
I have my LEO in the mail now or ordered any way. cant wait to get it. I want to see win 6.5 but im a bigger fan of android. I have modded all of my phones and Im a big HTC fan. Cant wait to see what this brings.
If your worried about battery life get an extended battery. As for heat, hey small price to pay for speed increases. Unfortunately until someone actually writes an app that can cpu scale, nothing can be assumed.
~Jasecloud4
tamagnus said:
we want it to actually run at 1ghz not 890 whatever
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it already scales to 1ghz when it needs to. It can scale quicker than the OS can start opening programs, so say it is idling at 700, you click to start a program, it is already doing 1ghz by the time you release your finger from teh link.
It would be nice to push it over 1ghz, say 1.3-1.5ghz? Just a nice thought...
jasecloud4 said:
It would be nice to push it over 1ghz, say 1.3-1.5ghz? Just a nice thought...
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Yeah, that would be awesome, to get this thing up to 1.5!! But...if somebody did, the battery might not even last long enough to take a screenshot to prove it
How can i overclock or set my cpu speeds??
......new to winmo
Android man, tryin somethin new tho
There is no program that can overclock the QSD Chips! There isn't one even for the old MSM so I'm not optimistic that there ever will be such a prog!
OrionBG said:
There is no program that can overclock the QSD Chips! There isn't one even for the old MSM so I'm not optimistic that there ever will be such a prog!
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no way!! thats crazy, i know on androids nexus one its snapdragon can be overclocked and undervolted its crazy. i thought theyd have something similar on the hd2
so wat good tweaks would u suggest for my hd2?
SimPRoBer20 said:
no way!! thats crazy, i know on androids nexus one its snapdragon can be overclocked and undervolted its crazy. i thought theyd have something similar on the hd2
so wat good tweaks would u suggest for my hd2?
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can you please give me a link to this program?
SimPRoBer20 said:
no way!! thats crazy, i know on androids nexus one its snapdragon can be overclocked and undervolted its crazy. i thought theyd have something similar on the hd2
so wat good tweaks would u suggest for my hd2?
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And here are most of the tweaks I use!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638
yea sure, this is the link for setcpu for android phones
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505419
SimPRoBer20 said:
yea sure, this is the link for setcpu for android phones
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505419
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The only question I have now is WHY didn't someone did such an app for WM?
OrionBG said:
The only question I have now is WHY didn't someone did such an app for WM?
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Why would you ever want to reduce your already scarce battery life?
Fedr0 said:
Why would you ever want to reduce your already scarce battery life?
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haha my battery life is amazing on this, plus i see lags in the programing n a higher cpu frequency would deff fix them. plus if my battery life was bad, i could then scale down my cpu n conserve battery life...
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Why would you ever want to reduce your already scarce battery life?
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1. Proof of Concept?
2. Because Adroid Have it!
I can think of some more
AMEN!!!
seems like winmo ppl arent as enthusiastic about there developing.
Comin from the android forums....where is the love for winmo..or is there any...
new ****s comin out daily for android.
id love to get an android port goin for my leo, itd b a much more beautiful piece of technology
At the same time, there's still no decent multi format video player on android... and that actually matters a lot more than overclocking a few MHz
True, multimedia is more serious, but (i know, i know here goes) the Droid is overclockable to nearly double it's clock speed and still remains kinda stable. If the HD2 could even be overclocked just 300-400mhz it would really be insane. The Nexus is already being pushed, why not push the HD2?
sounds like one quick way to have a very expensive paperweight,
1ghz is more than enough for what is primarily a telephone. perhaps if applications were followed more, updated, improved etc etc and took efficent use of the hardware availible then overclocking wouldn't even enter your mind.
overclocking should stay in home computers (its cheaper to fix ) i see no reason to attempt to get an extra 1mhz out of a phone worth £470 only to see it exhale a small puff of smoke and turn into 50pence worth of scrap...
get involved with the development of the apps you use, make them better, thats the way forward
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sounds like one quick way to have a very expensive paperweight,
1ghz is more than enough for what is primarily a telephone. perhaps if applications were followed more, updated, improved etc etc and took efficent use of the hardware availible then overclocking wouldn't even enter your mind.
overclocking should stay in home computers (its cheaper to fix ) i see no reason to attempt to get an extra 1mhz out of a phone worth £470 only to see it exhale a small puff of smoke and turn into 50pence worth of scrap...
get involved with the development of the apps you use, make them better, thats the way forward
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what's a pence? is that like a penny? jk jk lolol...there are safeguards built into every chip to prevent it from going over the engineering redline. so if you do go too far...and ignore the signs (and there will be plenty) then shame on the operator for being a dumb-a**...to each his own...
lol thats true, im sure some overly keen 'clocker will no doubt prove us wrong... many moons ago i did overclock my i-mate JAM another 50mhz or so in order to gain and extra few fps when watching .wmv movies... the battery life was shocking though!
oh, and a 'pence' is a completely pointless denomination of currency...several thousand years of social evolution and we still use coins???
paper ftw
I honestly still cant wait for an android port for this beauty!!
Don't quote me on this but isn't the HD2 underclocked to 750Mhz?
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Don't quote me on this but isn't the HD2 underclocked to 750Mhz?
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it scales as required. this was much discussed in regards to the 1ghz hack.
If you really want to be the first one to get over 1Ghz of super duper processing power from your HD2, i suggest you use Pocket Hack Master
Remember, neither the developer of this app nor anyone at xda-developers is responsible if you somehow manage to f*** it up, also, the latest version was built in 2008
Hey guys, I just benchmarked my Hero(Telus) ... VillainRom 6.2.0 ... used the app from the market(blue table graph icon), just wondering what everyone else is being benched at??
The only thing that is backgrounded is the Desk Clock that comes with Rosie.
117.164 total graphics score
161.830 total CPU score
118.092 total memory score
37.326 total file system score
This means nothing if you don't post your CPU speed.
havn't touched cpu ... ROM and radio only updates ... not using setCPU, or the other popular overclocker, or any for that matter.
Graphic 119.479836
CPU 185.26137
Memory 139.53342
Filesystem 35.040806
bulltronStudios said:
havn't touched cpu ... ROM and radio only updates ... not using setCPU, or the other popular overclocker, or any for that matter.
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Ok, so what is the default CPU settings for that ROM, then?
Well, the thread is for a particular rom, so, everyone should have same default for the rom, check google if your that curious
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bulltronStudios said:
Hey guys, I just benchmarked my Hero(Telus) ... VillainRom 6.2.0 ... used the app from the market(blue table graph icon), just wondering what everyone else is being benched at??
The only thing that is backgrounded is the Desk Clock that comes with Rosie.
117.164 total graphics score
161.830 total CPU score
118.092 total memory score
37.326 total file system score
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Why would you be spamming the forum with YET another benchmark thread, while there are quite a few of them already; post in those.
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Why would you be spamming the forum with YET another benchmark thread, while there are quite a few of them already; post in those.
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guess i didn't cruise to page 400 in the forums ... figured mabye alot of ppl were downloading this ROM ... it does seem to be the fan favorite. and perhaps save people looking 399 pages past this one ...
Graphic: 146.38194
CPU: 227.27559
Memory: 153.31569
Filesys: 35.0106
HTC Hero, [email protected](Max)/352MHz(Min)
bulltronStudios said:
guess i didn't cruise to page 400 in the forums ... figured mabye alot of ppl were downloading this ROM ... it does seem to be the fan favorite. and perhaps save people looking 399 pages past this one ...
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Well, I guess if people are willing to download a new rom, they would like to look into all their options, not only one. For that matter, this thread (found on page 3) is much more helpful:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=656818
What's the point of having 20 people posting their results with the same rom on the same hardware? Are you going for a statistics? And your argument about people having to scroll around is completely pointless, because your thread won't stay on page 1 forever, you know? So people *will* have to scroll again to see it...
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Graphic: 146.38194
CPU: 227.27559
Memory: 153.31569
Filesys: 35.0106
HTC Hero, [email protected](Max)/352MHz(Min)
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Now, THAT's meaningful!
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Graphic: 146.38194
CPU: 227.27559
Memory: 153.31569
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HTC Hero, [email protected](Max)/352MHz(Min)
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what kind of heat are you putting off at 748??
what are you using for overclock? setCPU?
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Well, I guess if people are willing to download a new rom, they would like to look into all their options, not only one. For that matter, this thread (found on page 3) is much more helpful:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=656818
What's the point of having 20 people posting their results with the same rom on the same hardware? Are you going for a statistics? And your argument about people having to scroll around is completely pointless, because your thread won't stay on page 1 forever, you know? So people *will* have to scroll again to see it...
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all i was saying was, in response to first dude, marinerb ... was I did NOT put aything on my phone, also, that i had STOCK rom ... if people have overclocks, good, post em, i dont, so i didn't list it.... looking for comparison, no need to be nazi's about it ... so, yeah... just let the thread die.
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what kind of heat are you putting off at 748??
what are you using for overclock? setCPU?
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I don't notice more heat than usual. I only notice heat when charging and it's from the battery. Battery life is better than with stock settings. I use SetCPU, no profiles, ondemand governor and ben39_nobfs_noCC_no-whining kernel.
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Graphic: 146.38194
CPU: 227.27559
Memory: 153.31569
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is yours stable at 748 if you run the setcpu stress tester for a minute or two?
if so then that's cool - I might have to try that speed too. I know mine locks up instantly at 780mHz more or less, but solid as a rock at 730. I have a feeling I tried 748 and it slowed to a crawl in the stress test and became really unresponsive yet not fully locking up... which to me makes that speed much worse than keeping it a little slower with 100% stability.
EDIT: stress testing 748 right now and it's still working ok... so maybe I stress tested a higher speed instead? running at basically 750mHz is freakin amazing for our little heroes if we can keep them running like that for the next couple of years
update: stress tested my phone at 748mHz results: lasted for 112725 ms before I exited the test with no errors! This little hero is so amazing!
EDIT: whoops - just reset itself LoL.... damn, I hope it boots up ok since I got cocky and set it to boot with the 748 top speed.... damn...
But I'll try it again - you've got me curious now
I have not stress tested the device but it runs stable for a couple of days now. No reboots and no lockups. The devices are somehow different some cannot run at 748 others can. Mine is even stable at 768Mhz but I i suffer less battery life with that setting, so I leave it 748 and everything is ok.
Dexa can you link me that kernel? I'm running ben39_nobfs_no-whining kernel clocked at 738mhz stable with stress testing and I'm curious about the noCC part that you're running. Thanks!
Ah never mind I found it; there was an updated version.
Maybe its just me but I feel like overclocking our phones is unnecessary. It seems like its just for boostin benchmark scores and it doesn't really affect real world performance. For me I used setcpu and it makes the phone slower and laggy when on conservative. Is that just setcpu not playing nice with my phone?
Tapatalkin it from my Epic 4G
Overclocking, for most part, is all about getting the most you can out of what you have. For some its a numbers game, for others it's just because you can. Personally, I like at least having the option open. However, my Epic doesn't like 1.2ghz.
Stock speeds are enough most of the time. I don't usually run the programs that use 100% of the cpu, so I really don't need to worry about it. Though, if I had the capability to OC.. I would.
As for setcpu, I've never experienced any overly excessive lag or anything brought about by its use. Though, by its nature it will be slightly slower to respond.
Coming from a hero, i can tell you overclocking is certainly not a gimmick! It may not be as necessary on these epic cause its crazy-awesome fast from the box, but it still helps. I keep mine at 1.6ghz on conservative, and performance when i play certain games. For me its about the multi-tasking improvment. Also i like to see my icons fade in smooth no matter what i have going on in the phone
But for me at least, its far more than just a benchmark score. However it is pretty sweet telling my iphone rocking coworkers to eat my ghz
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Maybe its just me but I feel like overclocking our phones is unnecessary. It seems like its just for boostin benchmark scores and it doesn't really affect real world performance. For me I used setcpu and it makes the phone slower and laggy when on conservative. Is that just setcpu not playing nice with my phone?
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Well first it depends completely on your phone, all are different in terms of what they can handle, so each individual phone will respond differently to overclocking/undervolting. I can personally run 1.2, 1.3, and the 1.6 completely fine, while a lot of people can't run any of these. In terms of performance, it does make a difference with animation speeds, fps on games such as pocket legends or angry birds, and overall lagginess. But again, this is dependant on your phone.
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I flashed the Xtreme kernel today but for some reason, I'm not getting the FPS unlock. Nenamark and Neocore are not getting the +70 I was expecting...
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I flashed the Xtreme kernel today but for some reason, I'm not getting the FPS unlock. Nenamark and Neocore are not getting the +70 I was expecting...
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Are you running v1.2.0? If so, the fps cap is not fixed on this version because Devin removed the 1.6ghz step which allows the framerate to be raised. It works on some phones, but not all which is why he removed it.
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That explains it
The same argument comes up every once in a while concerning PC overclocking. I admit the phone overclocking has yet less benefits and even more downsides, but oh well, it's still super neato.
AndrewZorn said:
The same argument comes up every once in a while concerning PC overclocking. I admit the phone overclocking has yet less benefits and even more downsides, but oh well, it's still super neato.
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Exactly, you have to compare this to pc overclocking because it is the same exact thing. Two processors of the same make and model will overclock differently no matter what, it depends entirely on the die. Correct, the benefits are less noticeable, but it still makes a difference.
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Exactly, you have to compare this to pc overclocking because it is the same exact thing. Two processors of the same make and model will overclock differently no matter what, it depends entirely on the die. Correct, the benefits are less noticeable, but it still makes a difference.
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There is a notable difference with stock 1ghz and a 1.2ghz. 1.2 - 1.3 isn't worth it in real world that's bragging rights
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Hey guys, can you use z4 root on this phone? All i want is to remove is the bloat and undervolt it for my battery.. Any ideas of this works?
Why don't you ask in the z4 root thread
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Wtf there is a thread for everything here lmao.
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Wtf there is a thread for everything here lmao.
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Yea and the search button helps to find it.
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Dude I know lol. I have a rooted hero, but im sick of all the custom bs. I want to underclock and thats it!
Ok I aint joking but seriously what is the point of overclocking a Desire z/G2. Unless I am running on a slow phone I don't see the point. Stock speed never lags and i haven't seen any difference between 1.5 ghz vs 800mhz.
The only time when 1.5ghz clock speed is useful is when i running quadrant and rubbing its scores infront of my friends face.
There is any areas where you can actually see the performance difference?
bluntly, if you dont see the point of it then you don't need it.
For others, sometimes you run alot of stuff in the background and still want to be able to have your main app perform at its best level.
There is also the minute tweaking of speed and snappiness of the interface. The idea of instant reaction when you open your message app, or your email, or anything.
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Ok I aint joking but seriously what is the point of overclocking a Desire z/G2. Unless I am running on a slow phone I don't see the point. Stock speed never lags and i haven't seen any difference between 1.5 ghz vs 800mhz.
The only time when 1.5ghz clock speed is useful is when i running quadrant and rubbing its scores infront of my friends face.
There is any areas where you can actually see the performance difference?
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Heavy multitasking
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flash video seems pretty laggy to me at 800...
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=overclocking
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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=overclocking
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Best link ever! I hope i can remember it long enough to use it sometime.
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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=overclocking
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Ya i know what overclocking is but I haven't found one instances where I needed it to run an app. G2 is already damn fast and it runs android with no lag but I really see no point until more demanding ver. of android come out.
I just wanted to see who overclocks their G2 everyday and for what purpose.
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Ya i know what overclocking is but I haven't found one instances where I needed it to run an app. G2 is already damn fast and it runs android with no lag but I really see no point until more demanding ver. of android come out.
I just wanted to see who overclocks their G2 everyday and for what purpose.
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Fair question IMHO.
I don't see the difference when overclocking, or rather I don't feel it. Software does make a difference, but not the extra 200-500Mhz. I do feel however the battery drain
It always makes me laugh when somebody asks a legitimate question and you get silly responses like the above 2. It's as if these people feel threatened and have to justify that they are more knowledgeable than the op. The facts of the matter are most of the tweaks, mods and alterations are wholly unnecessary in the real world.
If you don't feel like it makes it better then you don't have to use it. I use it because I feel it makes everything just a little snappier and more instant. If you don't notice a difference that's fine. It's probably trivial for me to notice the little hang ups but I can't help it.
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For me there's several reasons. For the most part, the reason for oc is because you can. But there are practical reasons as well. For example, with the stock ROM running at 800MHz, you're stuck with that. With an oc kernel and using SetCPU or built in clock settings in CM, you can adjust it as needed. Gonna play a game? Bump it up to 1GHz or so. Done with said game? Take it back down to 800MHz. But it's not all about oc. Sometimes there's a need to underclock. Getting low on battery and don't have a charger near by and need to squeeze another hour or two out of it? Maybe take it down to 768MHz or 600MHz (if you're running Pershoot's kernel).
Dungeon Defender:
800 mHz : not fun, laggy
1.5 gHz : fun, graphic are more smooth
Reasons for using over clocking:
Because I can
Because sometimes I do notice the difference in performance of the UI and some applications (wait for Sense 3.0 etc...)
Because I also use it to underclock.
Like everything else, a lot of it is perception. My wife cannot see any difference between our normal cable channels and the HD ones. I can (or am I just trying to convince myself that I can?). Oh well.
Finally some practical and helpful responses, showing an understanding of the need for information from some people.
here's my experience when it comes to overclocking. keep in mind that, like with your computer, it does vary from user to user... so I'm making these statements from MY experience, not making blanket statements regarding all of our devices:
- if you run multiple homescreens with multiple widgets and ui "smoothness," not just aesthetically, but performance-wise as well, is of concern, mild overclocking becomes necessary.
- if you have several apps running at any given time (in background or foreground) and ui smoothness, same definition as above, is of concern, mild overclocking becomes necessary.
- if you run any iteration of a sense rom in any configuration and ui smoothness is of concern, mild overclocking becomes necessary.
- if you run PSX/N64 emulators and you don't want audio distortion or general lagginess, more aggressive (in my case, 1209 is a safe speed for maximizing performance without having a drastic effect on battery life) overclocking becomes necessary.
on AOSP builds, especially gingerbread-based, I don't think there is a necessity for more processing power than what we get from the factory if you're running a relatively slim setup and aren't using something like a PSX/N64 emulator regularly.
I run mine at 1ghz, but I did use 1.2ghz before. I do notice a slight performance difference. Overall tho I don't notice it much. I notice it more when I'm doing multiple things.
Nonsense!
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Finally some practical and helpful responses, showing an understanding of the need for information from some people.
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For all that you're talking, you have yet to provide anything of value to this conversation while you're sitting up there berating those other 2 posters.
Think about it.
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I run 1.1 because it is noticably faster. Everything opens faster and works smoother. My wife has a stock G2 and when I grab it to look something up on the web or to use maps when we're out, I instantly notice how mucher slower hers is.
Works for me so I use it.
I notice a definite performance boost on mine, but it also depends on which kernel/ROM you use. I was running meXroid for a few days and found that it got extremely laggy even overclocked with Flippy's kernel built in (1.9Ghz), plus my battery was dying faster than a Chuck Norris joke. PyroMod has always been reliable for me and I flashed back to 2.0 earlier and it's just as reliable and power-saving as ever.
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For all that you're talking, you have yet to provide anything of value to this conversation while you're sitting up there berating those other 2 posters.
Think about it.
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Thanks for that.