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best radio for bepe 0.65?

hi all!
i recently unclocked my orbit 2 uk by the unlocker on the following page http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=375338 and after it completed the signal went very low like 1-2 GSM bars and it goes off where as before i got about 4 HSDPA bars easy indoors. then i tried Polaris Radio 1.64.08.21 to no vail in the end luckily flashed the following Murata Radio ROM and the signal got better but the batter drain is bad i have already charged it 3 times to keep it above 50% 2day. i am currently on bepe 0.65 rom which i must say rocks! so any advice regarding the matter would be very helpful
thanks

Hi UZI22.
As for your questions.
When using other radios I as well as you encountered several errors.
The best radio was the default one I had and the problem was battery drainage.
When I started replacing the radios I found that the best battery usage is with the 1.65 radio.
The problem with that radio was reception and 3G usage.
When I changed my radio to muarta radio I saw as well as you that the battery drain was very fast and I decided to stop radio playing and change my ROM
The ROM I used was Bepe 0.67 and a glorious ROM it was but when I changed to UDK's ROM I found that it has no shortage over Bepe's rom.
Now my battery is good for 36 hrs with approx 60 min of talking and downloading exchange e-mail's every 15 min.
Sometimes the usage of the ROM differs from one user to the other and that is the reason for your battery drain but I found that UDK's ROM (Not diamond R_1) is the best for me.
Hope I was of assistance.
Itay

HD2 tbattery test...

I am having problems with my battery life on HD2.
Currently I use ROM Duttys Leo V2.2 with radio 2.06.51.07, but I tried atleast 10-15 different ROMs and radios (Miri/Laurentius26/Xanny/Sternas ROMs and others with all bases from 1.66 up to 2.10).
I made several tests with tbattery and logged the results, this is what i get (Current values):
- screen off -> -13
- screen on 10% -> -83
- screen on 30% -> -102
- screen on 100% -> -214
The tests were made on 2G connection with max signal, with no data connection.
My battery usually barely lasts 2 days with very light usage, with moderate usage i have to charge the phone every day. Maybe this is normal, I just hope it's not...
Can someone throw up some comparison numbers please? I already wanted to bring the phone back and demand a new one but I am not sure if something is actually wrong with it.
EDIT: before someone asks, I use MTTY for flashing and always do a hard reset after the first full boot. Tests were done with a clean ROM install, with no aditional processes running.

Hi mate.
Wich program you use to test battery? Anyway mine last around yours, with few usage barely 2 days and with moderate use 1 day. Im using xanny evo rom 1.2 and 2.08.50.08_2 radio

pistachu said:
Hi mate.
Wich program you use to test battery? Anyway mine last around yours, with few usage barely 2 days and with moderate use 1 day. Im using xanny evo rom 1.2 and 2.08.50.08_2 radio
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I wrote in the subject, i use "tbattery".

Instead of relying on tools and cope with individually different use-pattern, why not simplyfy the test to the bare minimum and come to comparable results? The method is described here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5558375&postcount=1
Anyone can do it and the results are comparable - could not be easier.
You have to leave your beloved gadget sitting alone about over night - but then you know if the battery has a problem or if it is your use-pattern.

tobbbie said:
Instead of relying on tools and cope with individually different use-pattern, why not simplyfy the test to the bare minimum and come to comparable results? The method is described here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5558375&postcount=1
Anyone can do it and the results are comparable - could not be easier.
You have to leave your beloved gadget sitting alone about over night - but then you know if the battery has a problem or if it is your use-pattern.
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Thank you for the tip tobbbie!

10hours out of my HTC HD2 battery please help

Hi
I have had my HD2 for 2 days now (arrived 11th March 2010)
The battery meter seems to decrease soooo fast its un real
I get about 10 hours out of a full charge
I was reading the others saying the same but i guess I just hoped mine would be able to last at least one day!!
I have even read some say a couple of days!!
I installed battlog and my phone just never seems to run at under 100mA so on my 1230mA battery you can see my problem!!, i can't seem to tell what is using that 100mA or what is running, is battlog what I should use or is their another program to help me??
my back light is set to 20%
installed WMLongLife so its always on 2G except for the whitelist such as opera/FB/Youtube etc
but on emails which are set to every 15mins its on 2G
I wanted push emails but when i set it up i found that my emails came straight through but no alert so i would have to keep looking at my phone unless someone can help with that!!
also twitter is not active, I dont use stocks automatically or weather!!
I have read LEO's tips and i just feel so far not in a million years will i get 24hrs!!
just in casr this help
I am on T-Mobile in the UK
OS 5.2.21864(21864.5.0.81)
manila 2.5.19202525.0
ROM Version
1.43.110.2(70315)WWE
Please help
Christopher!!

You might want to consider upgrading your Radio ROM version, I flashed from stock Radio ROM to 2.07 (as this was necessary to use the custom ROM I chose to install) and bettery life is really good I find, even better than version 2.08.
If you are willing to do this, please see this link.
Note: you must install HardSPL (once installed successfully, it will show as SPL: 1.42.HSPL instead of 1.42.0000 in Bootloader mode) on your HD2 to unlock it so you can install other Radio versions and custom ROMs.

Start by upgrading to the 1.66 ROM from your provider, then see what you're up to

Mastoid said:
You might want to consider upgrading your Radio ROM version, I flashed from stock Radio ROM to 2.07 (as this was necessary to use the custom ROM I chose to install) and bettery life is really good I find, even better than version 2.08.
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As above - upgrade your radio and rom.
You wont look back!

i concur... upgrade rom to at least 1.66 and radio to 2.08.50.08_2
i am getting great battery life out of this radio.
with your current rom and radio i guess all you could do now is:
a) install bsb tweaks... it has a power saving option but im unsure as to what registry changes are actually made by it.
b) search these forums for battery tweaks. there are quite a few good reg changes that have been posted.

Wait at least a week as before that, your battery isn't fully conditioned, so you don't get the best out of it.

If you browse internet or have the phone in constant use than it´s normal that the battery is sucked out rapidely - the display and wireless connections consumpt the most energy...
One example: Surfing via Edge/3G demands 300 - 550mA (in peaks)! So it´s no miracle that the battery runs out of juice...
See my log in attachment. This were 19 minutes browsing with 3G (in the middle the phone switched to Edge). I´m currently running EnergyROM 23544 with radio 2.08.50.08_2, browser is Opera Mobile 10 beta. Standby consumption should be around 9 - 18mA (I have 1% loss over night in flight mode)...

Also, bear in mind that the full capacity of the battery won't be reached until several charge/discharge cycles have been done when you flash to a new ROM.

rp-x1 said:
Wait at least a week as before that, your battery isn't fully conditioned, so you don't get the best out of it.
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I am wrong in thinking that batteries these days don't really need conditioning, even though I say that so far I am letting my battery totally die before I recharge but its like when I put it in flighmode at night to save battery it still can drop by 10%, is this normal??
thanks for your replies

UncleManuel said:
If you browse internet or have the phone in constant use than it´s normal that the battery is sucked out rapidely - the display and wireless connections consumpt the most energy...
One example: Surfing via Edge/3G demands 300 - 550mA (in peaks)! So it´s no miracle that the battery runs out of juice...
See my log in attachment. This were 19 minutes browsing with 3G (in the middle the phone switched to Edge). I´m currently running EnergyROM 23544 with radio 2.08.50.08_2, browser is Opera Mobile 10 beta. Standby consumption should be around 9 - 18mA (I have 1% loss over night in flight mode)...
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Ok now that sounds like my cup of tea
I want what you have!!
I have only ever flashed my viewty a ton of times, put themes and such on but as always was case its a brand spanking new phone and I really do not want to mess up, I work in I.T so I have at least 2 braincells haha, but yeah, if i had some instructions to follow I could do it!!
I just want to say a BIG thanks for the replies, so fast and so much help!!
thank you!!!

upgrade your rom to a newer version
It's a huge difference, at least for me between 1.48 rom and 1.66 offical rom. With 1.66 WWE and radio 2.06 my HD2 last for 2 and half days, with HSDPA always on, emails every 1 hour and moderate calls. And no other programs to save power...

Hi!!
So I have got Radio 2.07 and EnergyROM 23544 because the guy said he had only 1% drop in flight mode through the night or would you still say for me to go to 1.66 with Radio 2.07??
thanks for any help!!

I prefer to use shipped ROM's with embeded radio, but is up to you to try.
Chrisuk80 said:
Hi!!
So I have got Radio 2.07 and EnergyROM 23544 because the guy said he had only 1% drop in flight mode through the night or would you still say for me to go to 1.66 with Radio 2.07??
thanks for any help!!
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Problems
Just flashed using HSPL to the energy rom
all went well and my device restarted, nice interface and at the bottom was a please wait bar increasing saying different things and then it said very fast, "restarting device" on the restart my device is stuck on the black screen with the pink circled arrow!
if i take my battery out it first goes to a screen saying energy
then into the user interface and the please wait bar at the bottom again and then it says restarting device when the bar is full and again on restart its the black screen with the circled pink arrow!!
i was meant to flash my Radio to 2.07 after it turned back on back at this stage i am thinking 1, i cant change the Radio to 2.07 and i cant even change firmware because i have to have the device with the user interface to use Active sync
thinking i could well be screwed right about now unless some very kind person tells me otherwise!!
thank you

Hold volume down key, reset phone, hold until you're into the tricolor screen. Then plug your USB cable and flash that radio

kilrah said:
Hold volume down key, reset phone, hold until you're into the tricolor screen. Then plug your USB cable and flash that radio
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Yeah that is what i thought, I am at the red green blue and white screen and at 1st it says serial at the bottom, i plug in my USB and it changes to USB but when i go to Active Sync it states that it can not find my phone!!
really struggling with this but needed to do it since i was getting about 8 or maybe 10hrs out of my battery!!
thanks for the fast reply

Seems i did not actually need active sync to say connected, i just clicked the radio update when at the multi coloured screen so now i am on radio 2.07 and back to my phone restarting, lets hope this time it will restart!!
oj so i waited until my phone restarted before to post!!
it restarted with the radio 2.07 and the EnergyROM 23544 but still the same, when my phone loads into the user interface all looks nice witht he bar please wait at the bottom but when the phone restarts on its own it just gets stuck on the black screen, the red writting at the bottom about the radio version just never shows, then if i take the battery out the same process starts!!
any suggestions please??

HELP. HTC HD2 battery lasts only 9 hours
Clonatorul said:
It's a huge difference, at least for me between 1.48 rom and 1.66 offical rom. With 1.66 WWE and radio 2.06 my HD2 last for 2 and half days, with HSDPA always on, emails every 1 hour and moderate calls. And no other programs to save power...
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Hi,
My battery runs out very fast. I use ROM 1.66.409.1 (76641) NOR
Radio version 2.06.51.07.
I try minimizing the 3g use, wlan is off, BT is off, no programs in the task manager... I have tried it all, but with no luck.
The battery power disappears rapidly.... Any suggestions?

[Q] So what is currently the most stable setup for android on HD2?

So about 1-2 months ago, I switched to Android on my HD2, but this wasn't a very good rom. Whenever I turned the screen off, it would only light up black (wtf). It stated the battery was empty all the time. And when I had to restart my phone, and tried booting into android again, it would either freeze on the bootscreen, or it would be the darkest screen ever. Sometimes both.
So I ask; What is the most stable setup to date, for HD2?

I would also like to know which is the most stable Android build to-date (i am not bothered with the HTC Sense layar).

I agree ^^
Right now I'm using mdeejays evo sense 2.3 revolution and upgraded the kernel with Hastarin R8 and it is very stable!!
Its gonna depend on many factors such as what WM rom you're running and what radio as well. I would recommend you get chuckdroid WM rom, a good recent radio, and either evo sense 2.3 or Bangsters 1.5 (if you dont want sense) Ive had good results with both.

Latest Energy WinMo ROM, 2.12 radio, the Android build linked below.
Works fantastic, all day, every day. CM6 mod. MDPI/HDPI hybrid too
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=769026

MichaelVS said:
So about 1-2 months ago, I switched to Android on my HD2, but this wasn't a very good rom. Whenever I turned the screen off, it would only light up black (wtf). It stated the battery was empty all the time. And when I had to restart my phone, and tried booting into android again, it would either freeze on the bootscreen, or it would be the darkest screen ever. Sometimes both.
So I ask; What is the most stable setup to date, for HD2?
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I like my setup (in my sig). There's a new skinnyEVO v1.5, and since I haven't tried it, I can't speak of its stability.
The issue you'll encounter in most Android builds is data dropping, which is caused by using PPP (not RMNET) connection. This can be 'fixed' by turning on/off airplane mode.

+1 for Mdeejay builds
just loaded Mdeejay eVo Sense v. 1.1 Matted this morning, so far v smooth, battery 5mA in standby, camera with flash working, no probs so far.
deff' the best of the 3 android builds ive tried
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=797357

For the one who said that it depends on many factors, here is my current specifications;
OS-Version
5.2.21869 (21869.5.0.82)
Manila-Version
2.5.19211619.0
ROM-Version
1.66.409.1 (76641) NOR
ROM-Date
01/12/10
Radioversion
2.12.50.02_2
Protokollversion:
15.40.50.07U
What kind of setup would be best for my specs?

sumflipnol said:
I like my setup (in my sig). There's a new skinnyEVO v1.5, and since I haven't tried it, I can't speak of its stability.
The issue you'll encounter in most Android builds is data dropping, which is caused by using PPP (not RMNET) connection. This can be 'fixed' by turning on/off airplane mode.
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I'm on O2 in the UK. Using the latest Sense version of the PhireMOD Skinny EVO (v1.5) with 2.15 radio and the latest Chucky ROM 23139 ~ 3.14. Rock solid stability and very smooth and fast. I get an occasional data drop but that's the same with every PPP build. Battery life with light usage is approx 2 days.
Just upgraded to V8 kernal and it's smoother than ever. Best andriod build i've used - apart from the data drops (which is not the fault of the build) it's pretty much perfect for me. The key is to get the right combination of radio/wmrom/andriod. Unfortunately it seems to be different for different people so just a case of trial and error until you find the right combo. In my case the switch to 2.15 radio solved a lot of issues.

energy and skinnyEVO v1.5 with latest kernell update is the best setup you can get.... after a long search i foud this one to be the best..... oh radio 2.12.50.xxxx great battery life..... >

energy rom and mdeej's Revolution is by far the best sense build to date and there is a new radio for those of you that dont know yet 2.15

There is no guaranteed catch all perfect setup. what may run perfectly fine for me may run absolutely horrible for you. Different strokes for different folks.
Factors you have to consider:
SD Card (class, size, whether is SDHC or not, how it is formatted, cluster size)
Battery calibration (does your battery last a long time in WinMo?)
Your own knowledge (if you cannot be bothered to search for any simple problems then you WILL get frustrated trying to run Android)
the best way you can find out the best setup for you is trial and error.

dazzyb2k3 said:
I'm on O2 in the UK. Using the latest Sense version of the PhireMOD Skinny EVO (v1.5) with 2.15 radio and the latest Chucky ROM 23139 ~ 3.14. Rock solid stability and very smooth and fast. I get an occasional data drop but that's the same with every PPP build. Battery life with light usage is approx 2 days.
Just upgraded to V8 kernal and it's smoother than ever. Best andriod build i've used - apart from the data drops (which is not the fault of the build) it's pretty much perfect for me. The key is to get the right combination of radio/wmrom/andriod. Unfortunately it seems to be different for different people so just a case of trial and error until you find the right combo. In my case the switch to 2.15 radio solved a lot of issues.
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Sorry for the noob question, but can somebody describe data dropping to me?
I got a HD2 from work on the weekend, so the first thing I did was install android
I installed: Radio_2_14_50_04, and FroyoStone_Sense_V3.2. This combo is working fine and seems stable.
The problem I had yesterday was that I could not access the internet although I had a strong 3g or H signal. The problem would suddenly disappear and access would be fine for a few minutes and then no access again. Access seems more consistant today.
Battery life seems a problem too, it was fully charged at 7am this morning and was down to 5% by 5pm, that was with mild usage apart from about an hour mp3 and 30 min gps.
Any of this sound normal for android on a HD2?

MichaelVS said:
So about 1-2 months ago, I switched to Android on my HD2, but this wasn't a very good rom. Whenever I turned the screen off, it would only light up black (wtf). It stated the battery was empty all the time. And when I had to restart my phone, and tried booting into android again, it would either freeze on the bootscreen, or it would be the darkest screen ever. Sometimes both.
So I ask; What is the most stable setup to date, for HD2?
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MichaelVS said:
[Q] So what is currently the most stable setup for android on HD2?
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is the one you really like, the one that appeals to your needs and whims the most
so try them builds around and share your ideas and experience with each of them

tonyh0905 said:
Sorry for the noob question, but can somebody describe data dropping to me?
I got a HD2 from work on the weekend, so the first thing I did was install android
I installed: Radio_2_14_50_04, and FroyoStone_Sense_V3.2. This combo is working fine and seems stable.
The problem I had yesterday was that I could not access the internet although I had a strong 3g or H signal. The problem would suddenly disappear and access would be fine for a few minutes and then no access again. Access seems more consistant today.
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there is a VERY BIG discussion on a lot of threads about data drops, search for them. that is one nagging PITA at the moment for Android. switching airplane
mode on and off always worked for me though, also need to have the correct
APN setting for your network
tonyh0905 said:
Battery life seems a problem too, it was fully charged at 7am this morning and was down to 5% by 5pm, that was with mild usage apart from about an hour mp3 and 30 min gps.
Any of this sound normal for android on a HD2?
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reboot Android at least three times and the battery usage will improve drastically
my juice lasts a full day of moderate to heavy usage.

jigners said:
there is a VERY BIG discussion on a lot of threads about data drops, search for them. that is one nagging PITA at the moment for Android. switching airplane
mode on and off always worked for me though, also need to have the correct
APN setting for your network
reboot Android at least three times and the battery usage will improve drastically
my juice lasts a full day of moderate to heavy usage.
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Thanks for the info...the airplane mode trick worked a treat
When you say reboot android 3 times, do you mean reset the whole device, or is there a way to shut down and restart the android os?
Cheers
Tony

I use:
VBN reloaded 2 minimal ROM
mdeejay revolution 2.0
radio 2.12.50.
One time deals:
i) turn off auto backlight in winmo
ii) do a g-sensor calib in winmo
Make sure you :
i) Load android using EBL *as soon as you possibly can*
ii) press the back button when its loading HaRET
and you are all set !!!
z

TIP: Flash radio 2.12.50.02_2 for amazing battery life

There is currently a topic on radio versus battery life but as the conclusion is so great I want everyone to know as it may have got lost in the other thread and I feel users here are missing out by not knowing about it.
Basically several users have flashed the 2.12 radio and found much better battery life. On the 2.15 radio I used to get less than 10 hours. On radio 2.12 I have got 18 hours at least.
To flash a radio to your phone, turn off your phone completely. While holding down the volume down button, turn the phone back on. Keep volume down button pressed until you see the red, green blue screen. Connect your usb cable to phone and PC and the text on the screen will change from serial to USB. Execute the custom RUU file and follow the steps to flash 2.12 radio.
Link to radio and custom ruu:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=IFCLJFV9
Original discussion thread here to read up on it first:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=924059

2.12 give me better battery but slower 3G data while 2.15 3G is faster but little more battery drain. It depend on what you need more.
I choose 2.15 for faster 3G

Question:
Should already know I guess but...
Can we just flash the radio and keep the rest of the set-up or do we have to re do the windows installation / un-locking / activation thing?

Toggs said:
Should already know I guess but...
Can we just flash the radio and keep the rest of the set-up or do we have to re do the windows installation / un-locking / activation thing?
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Just flash radio through bootloader (hold vol down while reseting) and it'll keep everything as is

The radio won't affect your Windows installation at all. Flash at will Just downgraded from 2.14 to 2.12. Now let's see if I will get some more time from it. With 2.14 it was soemthing like 14-15 hrs.

I Will test it when i go home! Thanks mate!

i also found 2.12 better for battery life. although 2.14 seemed ot have slightly better data/voice quality.
The battery life wins out though

I will test it out. THX Mate.

TheOnly1 said:
The radio won't affect your Windows installation at all. Flash at will Just downgraded from 2.14 to 2.12. Now let's see if I will get some more time from it. With 2.14 it was soemthing like 14-15 hrs.
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Well depends on the phone you have, I had to reinstall my WP7 DFT rom after downgrading to 2.12 due to constant reboot on the DFT screen. I think one should be aware of it too.

Thank U for Ur extremely useful tip,I have quoted to several Chinses forum
Apologize for no aquire beforehand~~~

Yes ... 2.12 Also gives me a better battery life =)
Sent from my HD7 T9292 using Board Express

xda2_haseeb said:
Yes ... 2.12 Also gives me a better battery life =)
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I can confirm that too. Much better

So, how do you check which radio you have from within windows Phone 7?

confirm...however data connection sucks....hmmmmm

Is it just the 3G connections that slow down or would there be a noticeable reduction in speeds over Edge?

Strange... my data connection is the same as always. no slow down at all.

The quality of the data connection depends mainly on the network. If you have good enough coverage you won't notice a difference at all.

Do you get call problems,ie does the phone crash after calling with this radio ?

no changes in signal strength but the calibration for the battery meter is horribly unstable atm... if I do a hard reset after a few hours the battery meter goes higher lol

Can someone please re upload this somewhere else?