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Slow Push Mail for Hotmail

My push mail from Hotmail seems to be moving very slow lately and it is very anoying. Things like this make me miss my blackberry. I deal with alot of email a day and I need my emails to come to me quickly. I noticed when I installed the hotmail account the windows direct push icon can't be selected like when I had my @live.com email address. I dropped live because it decided to lock me out and not let me back in. Does anyone have any sugestions? I also don't want to deal with getting emails through another server.
THANKS
-Jim

I noticed that using Windows Live as its good times and bad times. Sometimes emails seem to come instantly and sometimes they seem delayed.
I know you said you prefer not to use a different server, but I must say, if you're willing to pay, then an Exchange server is the best.
If don't mind an @mail2web.com email address, you can set that up for free, but it won't be HTML.
If you have your own domain you can pay for a business account for about $20/month (including taxes). This allows you to use your own domain name, plus it uses Exchange 2007 so it offers HTML email. You can also sync your contacts, tasks, and calendar.
Another option is to use the Sprint Email app. I used that for a while and it seemed pretty fast too.
Now that I have that Exchange server, I can't see myself going back to anything else.

I just wanted to add that I think an Exchange Server will give you the closest thing to a Blackberry experience on Windows Mobile. Some people even say its better than Blackberry.

I am in no way affliated with them, but if you have your own domain to use for hosting, I love Sherweb; they're only about $8/month for hosted Exchange 2007. However, you're not going to be able to use your hotmail/live.com email address on a hosted Exchange server, since Hotmail won't auto-forward and you can't setup a reply-to address on the Exchanger server end (workarounds are possible, but messy).

I'd rather try to setup my sprint mail. if I add another twenty bucks on my bill I will be back up to black berry prices. how would I setup my sprint mail for push? when I setup the mail it asks me for how often to check for messages. the hotmail lets me select as items come. sprint does not seem to have an automatic email retrieve option unless I am doing something wrong?

Bigjim1488 said:
I'd rather try to setup my sprint mail. if I add another twenty bucks on my bill I will be back up to black berry prices. how would I setup my sprint mail for push? when I setup the mail it asks me for how often to check for messages. the hotmail lets me select as items come. sprint does not seem to have an automatic email retrieve option unless I am doing something wrong?
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You wouldn't actually be setting up your Sprint email account, but the Sprint Email program that should be in your Start > Programs menu. It should walk you through all of the steps to push your hotmail/live account.

Now for the stupid question. I reinstalled my hotmail email using the sprint email application and I have two hotmail email icons now. Is there anyway to remove the old one with out hard reseting and doing it all over again? Also would you know how to setup another email account with the sprint email option or is it just a one time thing?
THANKS!

I don't even rely on Windows Live Push email anymore.
I use mail2web , check out mail2web.com
They offer free exchange server push so you can just forward your mail to that address.
Check them out its the best.

mfpreach said:
I don't even rely on Windows Live Push email anymore.
I use mail2web , check out mail2web.com
They offer free exchange server push so you can just forward your mail to that address.
Check them out its the best.
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I hear you, I just find it frustrating to have to do all of this in order to have push mail. Something that is available but it seems to be a broken system.....thanks Microsoft

Try this...I found it at our friends ppcgeeks. http://community.seven.com/forum/main.php
Quite a few ppl from ova there use it. I've been using it about a week now and it works pretty good. Even has a home tab to let you know its connected and pushing. The longest an email has taken was 10 min and the shortest about 1 min. Its better than outlook logging on and syncing process and it is full HTML support. It also can have upto i think 5 dif emails

Push
Another option for email is www.mobipush.com

Imap Mail Issue (As Items Arrive)

I have 2 mail accounts 1 is an exchange server the other is Imap both business,
The exchange server account works perfectly.
The Imap account however has no option to receive messages as they arrive. Only the crap scheduling options which i refuse to use.
The Imap account is not Gmail, Hotmail or Yahoo. It is my own server on my own domain so I have control over everything and it does support push.
The strange thing is I have a basic SE (and when I say basic I mean it) that I use when I'm out, and that uses my Imap account with push perfectly . I also had a HTC TyTN ii with the exact same setup as I'm trying to configure on my HD2 and that supported push on my Imap account.
At first I thought it might be a limitation on the HD2 to only have one push connection active at any time. So I removed my Exchange account and re-setup my Imap account on its own, but still no option for collect items as they arrive.
Am I missing something or has anyone else come across this problem.

There is no native support for IMAP push in Windows Mobile, unfortunately. You need a third-party solution like Seven for that. By default you only get push with Exchange, and that is limited to only one account.

Thanks that well and truly cleared that up. I must not have had it set-up on my TyTN ii then, just thought I did.
Any chance you could post a link with details of seven tried searching google for
seven winmo app
but just got lots of stuff about winmo 7.
Thanks

forget that found it
http://www.seven.com/
hhmmm how stupid do I look

3rd party email app with unified inbox similar to HTC mail?

I've been looking without success for a third-party email app which has similar support to the Aria's HTC email one. I want a single app to access IMAP, POP3 and Exchange 2010 (ActiveSync) servers, but haven't found any other than the stock HTC. Touchdown supports ActiveSync but doesn't support POP/IMAP. MailDroid supports POP and IMAP but only supports Exchange 2007 (WebDAV).
I rather like the HTC app, but it requires Sense and therefore can't be used on CM6 roms, etc.
Stretch goal - support contacts and calendar synced with desktop Outlook, as well as Exchange 2010 server. Not interested in using Google servers btw.
Any suggestions? Thanks!

I use the K9 email app. I'm not sure if it supports Exchange. Try it out.

Thanks, hadn't seen K9 before. Unfortunately it only supports Exchange va WebDAV so no go for me. When setting up, it doesn't report any kind of error in fact, but then it fails to fetch anything and starts reporting "bad character in mailbox name" (for Inbox!). So it seems more than a little buggy.
Is there really only one solution for Exchange 2010 on Android?

Touchdown for Exchange
Did you check out Touchdown? It looks promising, but my corporate IT hasn't authorized it yet, so I haven't been able to sync yet.

Best Exchange ActiveSync App alternative?

Like others I've discovered HTC Mail isn't compatible with Hotmail's Exchange ActiveSync (Gmail Exchange ActiveSync works fine).
I've installed Touchdown but dislike the interface (it's also 20 bucks!) and also Improved Mail (v1.75) which also works fine but:
1. You cannot Move e-mails into another folder
2. Unlike HTC Mail it doesn't show the amount of unread e-mails on the home screen shortcut.
3. And the killer: It support HTML e-mails. How can a modern e-mail app not support HTML e-mails?
Are there any other Exchange ActiveSync e-mail apps I can use instead? Where can I download the Google Nexus One e-mail app?

K-9 mail.
mail droid?

celestialspring said:
K-9 mail.
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Thanks but this only works with Exchange 2003 not Exchange ActiveSync:
http://code.google.com/p/k9mail/wiki/K9MailAndExchange
I've only just discovered this because I've spent the last 30 mins trying to get it to connect and it keeps timing out.
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Thanks but this only works with Exchange 2007.

Anyone? Thanks

how about Moxier Mail...
http://www.moxier.com/mail/
looks nicer than TouchDown.. although when i tested Moxier (2.7) it didnt support HTML emails on Ex.2003 unlike Touchdown.
Moxier also appears to hold the downloaded emails on the phone memory so ran out quite quickly.. Maybe 2.8 is better now. havent tried.
for now i use TouchDown when i'm away from the office.

Thanks Kazgor.
I've just installed v2.5 and it doesn't support HTML e-mail on Exchange ActiveSync either. I cannot find a newer version. What is it with HTML support?
It's no good, if it doesn't support HTML e-mail. Pity as otherwise it looks good.

Give Roadsync a try - works fine for me although needs some improvement to match the Symbian version...

I was reading another thread on this earlier this week on xda and this link was in it. It describes how to load the normal android email app. Its for 2.2. I don't know If this supports what you need.
http://digiex.net/computing-section...tc-desire-google-nexus-one-android-2-2-a.html
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Thanks guys. I've now tried:
1. Native Nexus One E-mail App
2. Improved E-Mail v1.75 (not the new v2.00 yet)
3. Touch Down
4. RoadSync
And all work perfectly fine with Hotmail's Exchange ActiveSync but none support HTML e-mail. RoadSync says it does in it's text in the market and the owner of Improved Mail says it's also supported.
So I'm thinking this is a bug with Hotmail's Exchange ActiveSync.
I've also discovered on the Improved E-Mail website (www.mwebster.us) that moving mail when using Hotmail's Exchange ActiveSync won't sync this back to the server, due to Microsoft’s implementation of Exchange ActiveSync. Great!
Thanks cjm1979. I tried that awhile ago and the same problem. Incidentally, if that really is the Native Nexus One e-mail program, it's identical to Improved E-mail. Leading me to believe, Google licensed it from the owner.
So right now, as I need HTML e-mail more than Exchange ActiveSync. I'm using the HTC Mail app with POP3 .

I've received a rather interesting reply from the owner of Improved E-Mail, regarding HTML E-mail and Moving e-mail between folders not working:
"I think the problem is that the Hotmail activesync is based on Exchange 2003 (Why I have no idea - that's 2 versions ago), and it does not send html mail to mobiles, at least to most email apps I know of - I think this may be a server side issue, but I still plan on looking at it, since I'd like to be able to receive html from other account types as well.
It *should* support marking/unmarking and deleting and having that propagate to the server. I was going to verify but I can't setup my hotmail account right now for some reason.
Also remember, hotmail doesn't 'officially' support Android yet, so maybe things will get better."

I've been using the Seven client on mine. It works with Hotmail and Exchange, with minimal configuration (less than a regular client). Not even sure if it's using Exchange ActiveSync as it has a dedicated hotmail option that works perfectly well with push mail and displays as HTML. The Exchange option asks for the webmail URL (actual URL, not just mail server) and also works perfectly well.
Hotmail option syncs contacts but doesn't offer the option to sync calendar.
Exchange option syncs all 3.
The contact search function is fairly unresponsive, as in I searched for a contact and waited ages and gave up.
The widget is very rudimentary. It takes up half the screen and shows the last 3 Exchange emails. Doesn't give me any option to choose which account it displays email for, so effectively no widget for my hotmail.
It doesn't really come close to the standard HTC mail app, other than actually working for hotmail which the HTC doesn't...
Hope this helps?
I am keen to find an alternative for HTC mail as well. I am still using my Windows Mobile 6.5 phone and no hotmail is one of the main reasons why!

Thanks Mitel.
How can I get hold of Seven Client? I cannot find it on the Market place.

mital said:
The Exchange option asks for the webmail URL (actual URL, not just mail server) and also works perfectly well.
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Can you get this working with Hotmail? I enter https://m.hotmail.com and it errors saying:
"An error occured. Please try again (100)."
Interestingly the Gmail option does offer Contacts + Calendar. Only Contacts for Hotmail, like you say. It's a brilliant application but has some problems:
1. There is no Shortcut option, so you have to open the App from the Home screen and then it takes another tap to go to my Gmail or Hotmail Inbox.
2. Because of this, the App shortcut doesn't display the Unread e-mail count.
3. The Sent folder for both Hotmail and Gmail is local only. It's impossible to either display, sync or even have e-mails sent in Hotmai's Sent Items or Gmail's Sent Mail folder. Odd!
4. If e-mail needs to be truncated it displays as Plain Text and if it doesn't need truncating, it displays as HTML (if relevant). I'd prefer all html e-mails displays as html regardless but to get the option to switch to html you have to scroll to the bottom of e-mails and some newsletters are really long. There is no option to set if e-mail is displayed as plain text of html as default.
5. As said, the widget is weak but I don't use the widget for e-mails, so this doesn't bother me.
6. It's Push Mail only. The HTC Desire's battery doesn't sadly allow me the luxury of Push Mail.
The last one is a deal breaker. It's a shame as the setup is so easy (for Gmail/Hotmail it's just the username/password) and the interface is really well thought out. The unified inbox works well too. The search function works fine for me, pulling in contacts from the phone, sim card, gmail (if relevant) and hotmail (if relevant).
I didn't bother trying the Seven IM app because it only supports Gtalk and MSN. I need both MSN and Facebook Chat/IM support.
You can download the combined Seven E-Mail + IM App from here: http://community.seven.com/main.php

I downloaded the seven app version 23.41.6437_3_z7-android2x.apk
The IM for MSN works for me but I can't do any email.....
NO:
hotmail
gmail
yahoo
exchange
I wiped my phone a couple times. Still nothing. Stock EVO....

got roadsync, works nice

Here I come to hijack a thread for a device I didn't own but stumbled across as I was googling Android email apps.
In case you weren't aware, there is absolutely nothing wrong with the email apps or the way they connect to Hotmail using the exchange protocol.
It's purely that Hotmail Exchange via m.hotmail.com doesn't support HTML yet - it's a Microsoft issue. Will they ever implement it - who knows? But the fact remains if you want your Hotmail in HTML format then you're stuck with connecting via POP3 for the moment.
HTH.

Does HTML e-mail work on supported devices like the iPhone?
It works in Touch Down on Android but the UI is pretty ugly. I understand this bends the Exchange ActiveSync rules to support it. Why MS are using Exchange 2003 is strange.

No, HTML Hotmail is a no-go regardless of the device or app you are using. Hotmail simply does not support HTML over their Exchange connection, only POP3.
If you are asking about straightforward HTML in your email when connecting to say a corporate exchange account, then yes, obviously depending on the app and version of exchange.
Sent from my HTC Liberty using Tapatalk

Thanks
HTML e-mail does work using Touch Down though. I've seen it myself (make sure you're using the latest version, it didn't use to work). That is HTML e-mail using Hotmail Exchange ActiveSync, not corporate Exchange.

bradavon said:
Thanks
HTML e-mail does work using Touch Down though. I've seen it myself (make sure you're using the latest version, it didn't use to work). That is HTML e-mail using Hotmail Exchange ActiveSync, not corporate Exchange.
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Huh, well I never. I guess I'll have to try it.

[Q] Stock email app, imap, and push

I really like the new email interface that comes with the Xoom as well as the new and similar Gmail app interface. However, I also have a non-Gmail account that supports imap push which does not appear to be supported in the new stock email app. To get push email from that account, I am using K-9 which works well with push, however, I much prefer the new stock email interface. My question is, am I missing a setting on the stock email app for push (it is set up as an imap account), or, if not, what is the limitation or reasoning to not have included push in this app?
As a side comment, I did try forwarding all of my non-Gmail email to my Gmail account so I would receive it on the Xoom via push. This worked fine for about a week at which time, I as well as everyone that had sent or been copied on these emails started being flooded with notices that delivery of the email had been delayed (although it had actually been received) but attempts would be made to resend this email for the next few days. With each attempt to resend another notice would be received. My and everyone else's mailboxes were being over-filled with these notices so I stopped forwarding to Gmail and in about three days, at the end of the attempt to resend time period, these notices stopped. The account I was forwarding from was an Apple account (.me). I don't really believe in conspiracy theories but this one has me wondering!

wayne710 said:
I really like the new email interface that comes with the Xoom as well as the new and similar Gmail app interface. However, I also have a non-Gmail account that supports imap push which does not appear to be supported in the new stock email app. To get push email from that account, I am using K-9 which works well with push, however, I much prefer the new stock email interface. My question is, am I missing a setting on the stock email app for push (it is set up as an imap account), or, if not, what is the limitation or reasoning to not have included push in this app?
As a side comment, I did try forwarding all of my non-Gmail email to my Gmail account so I would receive it on the Xoom via push. This worked fine for about a week at which time, I as well as everyone that had sent or been copied on these emails started being flooded with notices that delivery of the email had been delayed (although it had actually been received) but attempts would be made to resend this email for the next few days. With each attempt to resend another notice would be received. My and everyone else's mailboxes were being over-filled with these notices so I stopped forwarding to Gmail and in about three days, at the end of the attempt to resend time period, these notices stopped. The account I was forwarding from was an Apple account (.me). I don't really believe in conspiracy theories but this one has me wondering!
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I have an IMAP account. When you are setting it up at the end it asks for refresh interval. I put that to never and it seems to push my email just fine.

under apps at the top right there are two email clients, gmail and email. Anything other than gmail gets loaded into email and is viewed in there. There are also two seperate widgets both of which I have on page 1.

Inphinitizeit said:
I have an IMAP account. When you are setting it up at the end it asks for refresh interval. I put that to never and it seems to push my email just fine.
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That is interesting as when I tell the regular email client, set up as an imap account, to "Never" check, it does just that....it never checks. I have to go into the app and manually refresh it to get any email. On the Gmail client, a time selection is not available as it is set to sync automatically with your gmail account.

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That is interesting as when I tell the regular email client, set up as an imap account, to "Never" check, it does just that....it never checks. I have to go into the app and manually refresh it to get any email. On the Gmail client, a time selection is not available as it is set to sync automatically with your gmail account.
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Hey, that's not me. LIES

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Hey, that's not me. LIES
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Sorry about that Spawn! I figured out what I did and won't let it happen again!

I, too, do not find that the "never" setting works. I notice on the Exchange seetings there are extra fields to syn with server. IMAP seems to have left those choices out.