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I highly doubt that Google would be willing to send people new screens or that people would be willing to open up their phones and replace the screens...
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Hahahaha, good luck with that.
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1) No.
2) The screens really aren't that bad... There is still the same coordinate swapping and axis snapping in Froyo that there was in Eclair but for pinch to zoom which is probably 95% of all multi-touch gesturing, it doesn't make any difference at all. Google was stupid to use ClearPad 2000 in the Nexus One but they don't have control over any of the other phones and HTC has dropped ClearPad for MaxTouch so just live with the extremely slight annoyance until your next phone.
Switched from iphone to Nexus never had any multitouch probs with nexi screen.
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1) It's not really up to Google, it's up to HTC who makes the device
2) If you had bother putting a single ounce of effort in to researching this you would find that
a) Multitouch works fine. There are almost zero instances where you will actually ever notice a problem with the way it works.
b) HTC has already changed the type of sensor used and future devices won't have this "non-issue".
What on earth are you doing that Multitouch is causing problems with? Drawing with 2 fingers or something?
I've had a Nexus One for about 2 months now and I've had no problems with the touch screen, except for the soft buttons but I hear they are fixed in Froyo.
The screen isnt that bad. I have my nexus 4 months and never came acros something that used complex finger moving. Pinch is the most used multitouch and that works great.
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All the cool new gameloft games are pretty much unplayable due to the Nexus Multitouch flaws... It's really frustrating. I thought I read somewhere once that Cyanogen had a fix by changing a setting in the system file that fixed the axis flipping problem :/
LevitateJay said:
All the cool new gameloft games are pretty much unplayable due to the Nexus Multitouch flaws... It's really frustrating. I thought I read somewhere once that Cyanogen had a fix by changing a setting in the system file that fixed the axis flipping problem :/
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You can't get a new device? Switching carriers, or paying and early termination fee may be hell to go through, but complaining when nothing is going to be altered also wont change much. I recommended the Incredible, Evo, Shadow.. there are a plethora of devices out there that you can purchase.
This is a shut up and deal with it problem for those who actually care. Nothing will be changed, at least not in my eyes..
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You can't get a new device? Switching carriers, or paying and early termination fee may be hell to go through, but complaining when nothing is going to be altered also wont change much. I recommended they Incredible, Evo, Shadow.. there are an plethora of devices out there that you can purchase.
This is a shut up and deal with it problem for those who actually care. Nothing will be changed, at least not in my eyes..
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For a young one, you speak much truth, lol. I concur.
GldRush98 said:
1) It's not really up to Google, it's up to HTC who makes the device
2) If you had bother putting a single ounce of effort in to researching this you would find that
a) Multitouch works fine. There are almost zero instances where you will actually ever notice a problem with the way it works.
b) HTC has already changed the type of sensor used and future devices won't have this "non-issue".
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Thanks for paraphrasing my post. I'm sure that was really helpful for people...
I'm just amazed that people still think online petitions are worth anything.
Launch day Nexus One owner here, have never had a problem with my touch sensor.
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Google pay no attention to their own forums, what makes you think they're going to care about an online petition?
They don't make the hardware anyway.
I also have no problem. Just because the sensor test apps show the sensor not being 100% accurate or perfect does not mean you have a problem.
I can pinch to zoom perfectly. I have yet to run into a problem. Sure, it's there, but it does NOT affect my daily use. Just quit complaining. Wait a year and get a new HTC device. Won't have this "problem" anymore.
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honestly it's kinda stupid.
Eclair~ said:
You can't get a new device? Switching carriers, or paying and early termination fee may be hell to go through, but complaining when nothing is going to be altered also wont change much. I recommended the Incredible, Evo, Shadow.. there are a plethora of devices out there that you can purchase.
This is a shut up and deal with it problem for those who actually care. Nothing will be changed, at least not in my eyes..
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I live in New Zealand and none of those devices are avaliable here.. and if they were they wouldn't work on our networks. I'm just a little guttered as the Nexus One was my dream device I didn't realise this problem until after I brought it... It's not too biggy but it means my precious isn't perfect
The only thing I'm missing thats coming out with all the new phones that I wish I had is the HDMI output and the true multi touch, I don't care much for higher MP cameras, faster cpu or higher resolution or larger screens, my Nexus One is perfect in all other regards for me, atleast at the moment.
You've gotta admit though it is quite a bummer as there are quite a few applications (mainly games) coming out now that only support the Incredible and phones with true multi-touch, I brought the Nexus because I thought it'd be the widest supported device, able to run all new android additions for a long time and already we're seeing things break away from it.
yeah it would be one thing if it was just strictly software related, but its just due to the hardware they chose, and now they have fixed that going forward. personally I haven't had problems, but i don't play many games on my device none where multitouch is needed.
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F###ING AMAZING. Despite the problems i'm not leaving this phone, I love it.
It seems like every post is about something wrong, lets get a thread going on how much you love your evo!
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It seems like every post is about something wrong, lets get a thread going on how much you love your evo!
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Well... every other post is about Evo 4g love affair, so lets not
my only gripe is no voice & data at the sametime, other than that i am enjoying the EVO (atleast within my 30 day window haha). i am recently enjoying the linking of contacts to social networks and other items as well linking Qik to facebook to provide links to videos i posted without having to do it manually.
very cool phone, walk around in the airport listening to music, get the ok from pilot for electronics, switch to a movie, read the usatoday, send my wife a msg on gtalk, flip back to movie, etc etc etc
I love my EVO too which is why I am so sad that HTC put a cap on the graphics and I may have to return it...
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my only gripe is no voice & data at the sametime, other than that i am enjoying the EVO (atleast within my 30 day window haha). i am recently enjoying the linking of contacts to social networks and other items as well linking Qik to facebook to provide links to videos i posted without having to do it manually.
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Well, if you are in a 4G zone, you can do voice and data at the same time...
i want it!!!!
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+1 for this topic! I love mine as well. Amazing phone despite the negative reports (which I only experience a few of personally).
Good thread. I love my EVO too. The problems worry me but I still prefer it to the iPhone 3GS I just left, and to the iPhone 4 that is coming out. So far I haven't noticed touch screen issues or screen seperation. But this phone is still awesome. I would replace it though if there was a 4.3"-5" nexus one though
I am coming from a mogul, so things are night and day.
I am very happy with the evo...
yes I have seen wifi slowdown: max 5000kbps down, 1000 up with a only the dot as an indication; Performance degrades significantly if hand is placed over the kickstand area. Battery life is as expected for heavy use (12hrs, blue tooth & 3g data all day, 20% screen brightness). I see the screen lifting ever so slightly and can barely see light creeping though at night, but I got a seidio case which seems to keep everything snug, if it gets worse I'll do the black silicone trick. Barring the fact that I haven't found a file encryption package, or a way to easily back everything up (as i could with sprite backup on wm)......that is ...yet.
I love this thing and use it all day. The speech to text is awesome (I laught to think that I was worried about a keyboard!)
the wifee got one too. she is happy as she has never had a smartphone or anything that could do email/internet. I showed her the problem with the display(slight lifting & setting on a table-top slider), and she gave me a dumb look and said "so, whats the problem? " .... I left it at that.
you will never have a perfect production run, there will always be software bugs, lets home that HTC will improve their processes, make current customers happy (returns & repair and or replacements), and will get together with sprint for an action plan including the release with fixes to the current problems with a easy to root, android 2.2 update.
qu1nn
It's the way people have been conditioned lately...for instance...when was the last time you heard of a happy marriage? but I bet you heard of a **** ton of divorces and unhappy marriages...no one goes out singing high praises anymore, it's always complaints and *****ing.
On a brighter note, yes, the phone has it's problems...it wouldn't be a consumer grade electronic device if it didn't. I personally LOVE it.
No issues here. Coming from an AT&T Tilt, so consider my world rocked at the moment.
No issues here. Coming from an AT&T Tilt, so consider my world rocked at the moment.
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You and me both, and I was running android on it, so even with the fps cap, the EVO is faster I can't think of another phone I would rather have right now despite the issues. Have had zero hardware issues and can fairly easily get 20+ hours of battery life with moderate usage. Quite happy...
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F###ING AMAZING. Despite the problems i'm not leaving this phone, I love it.
It seems like every post is about something wrong, lets get a thread going on how much you love your evo!
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100% with you, i just want to replace mine because of the screen issue but i love it anyways! it's imposible to have a device without any issue.
Let me just say I'm on my EVO so much that my Macbook Pro is getting jealous
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Let me just say I'm on my EVO so much that my Macbook Pro is getting jealous
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Too funny...
cary328is said:
Let me just say I'm on my EVO so much that my Macbook Pro is getting jealous
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In all seriousness, I don't know that I have turned on my laptop more than once or twice since I got my EVO, I think that it hits the perfect balance of screen size and pocketability for light internet surfing/email/blog reading/Facebook/etc. such that it makes a full sized computer almost irrelevant. Just MHO.
Yeah... i'm loving my evo! rooted and unlocked nand!
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In all seriousness, I don't know that I have turned on my laptop more than once or twice since I got my EVO, I think that it hits the perfect balance of screen size and pocketability for light internet surfing/email/blog reading/Facebook/etc. such that it makes a full sized computer almost irrelevant. Just MHO.
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Yeah once the Evo gets working bluetooth keyboard support the netbook manufacturers are gonna be running for the hills!
I wanted to love the Evo, the specs are awesome, the screen is huge, web browsing is blazing fast, but the user experience just leaves something to be desired IMO. I hope these issues are resolved with future updates and/or Froyo and I may be back!
The main cuplits in my opinion: Touch screen lag, the unresponsive screen, the lack of 4G in my area (and still have to pay the $10 premium), the FPS cap issue, the jittery and stuttering pinch to zoom in browser. Hacking/rooting the phone is WAY too complicated and risky compared to the iphone jailbreaking
Minor gripes but still annoying: the lack of 'next' and 'previous' buttons in browser for filling in fields, landscape keyboard has no 'send' button in SMS app, landscape keyboard mode in general takes up the whole screen so you cant see where your typing without hitting back button, no way to turn off the 'text reflo' feature in brower...sometimes its more of a hassle than a benefit.
I have a few days left in the 30-day trial and have made the descision to take it back. If these issues are resolved, in which I hope the official Froyo will address these issues I will happily ditch the iphone and jump back on the andriod bandwagon.
Do it then, not like it's a life changing decision. If you come back, the forum is still here.
Ok..........
Could care less but the enter button on in works as send also you don't hit the back button u hit the keyboard button to hide the kb
Sent from my Evo on on the Now network from Sprint
oh and duck Apple
Enjoy ATT.
Good luck.
A lot of people are going to post some hater remarks because you're going to the iPhone, but objectively I actually do understand where you are coming from. It's pretty angering to think that HTC delivered a gimped phone with major quality issues marketed as the best phone ever (and it could have been!).
Yes, most of this can be fixed via the community (thank God for that!) but it's still frustrating that it is happening. Hacking the phone to where HTC should have built it as voids the warranty and any kind of support. I think that's unacceptable. We waited months and stared at countless blogs reviewing early releases just salivating over the phone. Once it got here it was quite an awakening for some people. Thankfully because of XDA, we can say screw HTC and "fix it" ourselves.
A lot of your gripes are more with the Android OS, which I think is wonderful but understandably is not everyone's cup of tea.
I just played with a friends Iphone 4 and I have to say its a nice appliance. I can definitely see the draw.
If your already questioning your Evo decision, then do it.
Having said that, its not for me. Doesn't satisfy my inner geek...
and the point of this post was.......?
i mean if u wanna have a phone that u can only hold in ur right hand and pay more munny and have data limits..go ahead but dont post it on here like the iphone aint got probs either..every phone is gonna have its probs especially when they 1st come out
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I just played with a friends Iphone 4 and I have to say its a nice appliance. I can definitely see the draw.
If your already questioning your Evo decision, then do it.
Having said that, its not for me. Doesn't satisfy my inner geek...
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I agree completely. It's a nice phone but it doesn't have enough for my inner geek. Feels too dumbed down. Even jailbroken.
Haha you might want to wait until after they do the antenna recall.
What I mean is ALL phones with how they push them out nowadays will have issues.
Rooting is anything but difficult but if you can't do it then perhaps the Iphone is a good choice for you.
Fully agree with aridon..
If you aren't into getting the most you can out of your phone get a damn iphone!
I prefer choice, and i'm not a follower.. so android is for me.
That said most of your problems will be fixed with froyo and the rest (UI and aesthetics) will be fixed with gingerbread.
By the end of this year I fully expect these phones to rock
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LOL EVO'D_OUT is the username? lol s/he was a prophet.. the OP knew when s/he signed up that s/he would eventually return the evo! wow perhaps the OP can predict other things that will happen in the future...
Lol. I respect your opinion, although I'm not really sure the point of letting a bunch of evo loving people know. I for one am keeping my evo, well... because its the most bad ass phone I have ever had. Lol tootles.
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I wanted to love the Evo, the specs are awesome, the screen is huge, web browsing is blazing fast, but the user experience just leaves something to be desired IMO. I hope these issues are resolved with future updates and/or Froyo and I may be back!
The main cuplits in my opinion: Touch screen lag, the unresponsive screen, the lack of 4G in my area (and still have to pay the $10 premium), the FPS cap issue, the jittery and stuttering pinch to zoom in browser. Hacking/rooting the phone is WAY too complicated and risky compared to the iphone jailbreaking
Minor gripes but still annoying: the lack of 'next' and 'previous' buttons in browser for filling in fields, landscape keyboard has no 'send' button in SMS app, landscape keyboard mode in general takes up the whole screen so you cant see where your typing without hitting back button, no way to turn off the 'text reflo' feature in brower...sometimes its more of a hassle than a benefit.
I have a few days left in the 30-day trial and have made the descision to take it back. If these issues are resolved, in which I hope the official Froyo will address these issues I will happily ditch the iphone and jump back on the andriod bandwagon.
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ouch now u gotta get att's new data plans yikes
Nop way I go back to iphone..and I had all off them..android rules..and yes I'm fully rooted...lol .
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Rooting is super easy if you can just follow the instructions.
Having owned the 3g and 3gs and now the evo... along with a ton of other htc's I can tell you the number one reason people dont stick with these phones after the switch... too complex. No thing to me as i've been tinkering and flashing since the vogue but some folks just like the empty interface/pages of apps because its simple.
I've watched countless videos on Youtube and researched them both on google, but I just can't seem to come to a decision on which is better.
The Vibrant has native android which runs smooth AND records videos in 720p which is a really nice bonus, but the HD2 just has this massive screen which just looks like it kicks *** BUT can also run Android (with some bugs apparently). When it comes to battery life, which is better? My day is filled with heavy texting and the occasional web browsing but not really emails or networking since I hate Facebook and all that.
Any help here?
I've had both and Vibrant hands down. Not even a contest honestly. The only thing the HD2 has over the Vibrant is a little larger screen and even then the Vibrant is a better screen.
Here you go.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=745201&highlight=Vibrant+hd2
we're getting too many of the threads....
if you look at them side by side and open the same apps etc, you will see that the hd2 is garbage.
Vibrant indeed, was at the T-Mo store and mom was considering it for some bizarre reason, the T-Mo rep told her to not consider it, on top of all the obvious reasons posted in many threads, the device itself seems to be very buggy and the rep said most people have problems with the device
If you can afford a Lexus why buy a Hyuandai that looks like one? Go with the vibrant, my hd2 had freezing issues, slow browser and the app store reminded me of my palm treo 650, non existant!
I perfer the screen size and ergonomics of the vibrant, on a hardware note,and touch sensitive buttons means no dirt getting into the phone.
Did I miss anything?
Oh night mode, swype, and hummingbird ftw!
Sent from the best phone from TMO... Vibrant
The only thing going for it would be the price, depending on how disgusted the person is with the HD2 you can get one mint in the low $200's
Thanks guys, I realize this is an overdone topic but I really appreicate the responses.
I think I'm set on the vibrant since it has way better features with the exception of flash and a bigger screen.
I really appreciate it guys, but just one more thing, there IS a way to unlock this phone to get free apps and such right? >_>
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I really appreciate it guys, but just one more thing, there IS a way to unlock this phone to get free apps and such right? >_>
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If your talking about getting paid apps for free then you're not going to get any help here. Its called warez and very frowned upon here. Besides most apps in the market are free or have a lite version. And the paid ones only cost a few dollars so its not even worth it to pirate them.
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I really appreciate it guys, but just one more thing, there IS a way to unlock this phone to get free apps and such right? >_>
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Getting apps for free really does this community a dis-service. app developers are less likely to produce the higher end games and support for a system that is flawed, at least for now. Soon we will see emailed auth. Codes for every paid app., but will hopefully see those apps that are truly worth paying for.
Vibe the XDApp
Haven't used the HD2 but I'm in love with my Vibrant and it seems like a has quite a bigger fan base going.
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I don't mind paying for applications, but paying for an app that let's you use nice themes with different icons (on the G1 anyways) always seemed downright stupid to me. You're right though, it doesn't justify stealing them in the first place because some devs do deserve the money.
I had HD2 and i wasnt happy with it. It crashed the second day and apps were simply limited and useless. The OS wasnt bad but it wasnt good either. After i installed android i was more pleased but not for long when it kept crashing (bcs obviously is not perfect yet) Now that i have Vibrant i fell in love from out of the box. Everything is neat (especially when froyo 2.2 comes out) and so far havent frozen once. Battery never seemed like a problem to me, and i DO text a lot. Usually keep brightness down since the screen is beautiful as it is and less light reflect. Every phone have its own problems and HD2 have too many.
I have both..I like the led flash and larger screen of the hd2 but the color and pop of the vibrant is much better...I like my Vibrant alot more.....
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I now have only 2 days to return my Vibrant and go back to the HD2.<thinking> .........
Don't think it's going to happen!..Don't get me wrong, I really liked my
HD2 when I got it...got two, one for me and one for her.
She's happy with it coming from a Blackberry 8300 but, I've had
Windows mobile before and even with the slick Sense its like the
other guy said...Treo 650....5.0 touched up to 6.5!
I paid $500 each for those phones...Think I can get at least
half of what I paid? Man, I hope so.
Damitu said:
I now have only 2 days to return my Vibrant and go back to the HD2. .........
Don't think it's going to happen!..Don't get me wrong, I really liked my
HD2 when I got it...got two, one for me and one for her.
She's happy with it coming from a Blackberry 8300 but, I've had
Windows mobile before and even with the slick Sense its like the
other guy said...Treo 650....5.0 touched up to 6.5!
I paid $500 each for those phones...Think I can get at least
half of what I paid? Man, I hope so.
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Doubt it man, the hd2's lost value quicker than a...I actually don't have an analogy to go with that. Anyways they're pretty dirt cheap on craigslist but good luck selling them nonetheless. And in regards to this thread's topic, I suggest getting the vibrant and buying a cheap led keychain if flash is really important to you. Although I don't suggest trying to zoom in on your photos in android's default gallery app. Just trust me, it's not pretty.
And do try to search the forum next time you have a question. It's kind of getting annoying seeing these identical threads popping up every time I come to xda.
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i also have both.
you can now run android on the hd2 on top of the native windows OS via dual-boot. so far most of the builds are close to being 100 pct stable. right now, i'm running froyo with htc sense on my hd2 and getting respectable quadrant scores up to 1500. these builds also come rooted and with overclocked kernels. just some thing for you to think about if you're thinking about getting an hd2. i primarily use my hd2 for work and my vibrant as my daily driver.
If your hating this phone.
DONT BUY IT lol
i agree,
the phone has been released so these threads really shoudlnt be about people telling us how much crap they think the phone is
My only question is...
did the nexus ONE get the same amount of criticism
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i agree,
the phone has been released so these threads really shoudlnt be about people telling us how much crap they think the phone is
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All the people that say the phone is crap, dont own it... lollol
How can you make an informed decision on just speculation, there are many factors that makes a phone great, not just massive leaps in tech... This phone IS a great piece of kit NO DOUBT!
JD
JupiterDroid said:
All the people that say the phone is crap, dont own it... lollol
How can you make an informed decision on just speculation, there are many factors that makes a phone great, not just massive leaps in tech... This phone IS a great piece of kit NO DOUBT!
JD
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People need to prioritize, they critisize it because it does not have a dual core CPU but really what good is that going to do, its a phone. It isnt like any Android app is that CPU intensive.
no HD video, doesnt matter either, HD video on phones still isnt anywhere comparable to a HD video camera. the resolution may be there but the quality isnt.
I for one rather take on time and priority Android updates over anything else.
I do like this phone, and glad i sold my N1 before the market for N1's shot down.
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People need to prioritize, they critisize it because it does not have a dual core CPU but really what good is that going to do, its a phone. It isnt like any Android app is that CPU intensive.
no HD video, doesnt matter either, HD video on phones still isnt anywhere comparable to a HD video camera. the resolution may be there but the quality isnt.
I for one rather take on time and priority Android updates over anything else.
I do like this phone, and glad i sold my N1 before the market for N1's shot down.
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Damn you!!!!! Lol, I just bit the bullet on eBay on my N1, and yes, prices are lower, I took $50 less than I would've a week ago.
And criticizing something they dont own is the same thing people did with the G2, then people found out it was a really great device. It doesn't help companies or end users when people prematurely "bastardize" a device.
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did the nexus ONE get the same amount of criticism
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Thats a good question lol see I used to not read forums back then but im sure they would have deterred me from getting a Nexus One, which turned out to be the best phone I ever owned SECOND to my Nexus S!!
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Thats a good question lol see I used to not read forums back then but im sure they would have deterred me from getting a Nexus One, which turned out to be the best phone I ever owned SECOND to my Nexus S!!
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I got the Nexus one when it first came out... read the forums briefly... but I only remember people complaining about battery issues... like it would die with so-so hours.
I was trying to see if there were anything else that got fixed later on.
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Thats a good question lol see I used to not read forums back then but im sure they would have deterred me from getting a Nexus One, which turned out to be the best phone I ever owned SECOND to my Nexus S!!
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The Nexus 1 got ripped in its first few weeks for its dodgy clearpad 2000 screen which has support for only two touches at a time and its overlapping axis... This just shows you people are never satisfied. The N1 is one of the most important phones in history
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I absolutely agree. before I got the phone I read so much crap left and right. All the whining about dual core, no sd, etc...I buckled down sold my N1 and bought the Nexus S the first day and there is no looking back! best move I could have made. The phone is awesome, it's already rooted and will give you the best android experience without the bloatware(sense, touchwiz). Technology moves so fast and people are never happy. Right now, this phone kicks ass!!!
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I absolutely agree. before I got the phone I read so much crap left and right. All the whining about dual core, no sd, etc...I buckled down sold my N1 and bought the Nexus S the first day and there is no looking back! best move I could have made. The phone is awesome, it's already rooted and will give you the best android experience without the bloatware(sense, touchwiz). Technology moves so fast and people are never happy. Right now, this phone kicks ass!!!
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I second this!! All the way!
I freaking love this phone, you dont understand how great it is till you have it in your hands one word..IMMACULATE!
Smilez_c said:
I freaking love this phone, you dont understand how great it is till you have it in your hands one word..IMMACULATE!
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I used to hate Samsung phones (especially regular phones), but this one seems to be the best phone from Samsung and it looks very cool.
No memory card is the only thing I don't like.
I still think Google and Samsung could have done better than this. LOL. LOL
Anyhow, it sounds to me that if you already got rid of your Nexus One you don't have a choice but to now love your Nexus S.
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It just wasnt a HUGE jump forward like the N1 was thats why
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I think this is the first topic I've read without reading a single post whining about this or that. Kudos to everyone in this topic and the whiners that didn't post in this topic. I say whiners because I see it in almost every single damn topic I read through.
I agree. Hopefully in a few weeks or so we'll see all the naysayers and doomsayers pass.
One day and we already have boot unlock (though that was admittedly pretty simple), custom recovery, root, and an optimized kernel. I only see bright things in this device's future, but that might just be the amazing screen!
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Not sure why people are hating on it so much. I havent taken my hand off it for a couple hours and I absolutely love it. Definitely worth my hard earned $560
Here's something to further boost our kiddie egos and bragging rights :victory: - It comes as no surprise to me really that the exquisite Sony XTZ is EISA's pick for the European Tablet of the Year 2013 - 2014. So happy I went with Sony on this one
Hit the link for the short run down: http://www.eisa.eu/award/31/european-tablet-2013-2014.html:cool:
Tell me this doesn't make you that much prouder to be an SXTZ owner :highfive:
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Its a good Android tablet. For a time at least, lol.
I do agree that given the weight and size its a marvel of technology considering the performance and quality of construction.
Sony appear to be moving in the right direction, lets hope this trend continues.
Even if it is the winner, i don't see any real developer here, the development section is dead, i mean like dead in dead. Nothing new is happening there. I don't know why.... God dammit developers build some kernels, roms
Anicane said:
Even if it is the winner, i don't see any real developer here, the development section is dead, i mean like dead in dead. Nothing new is happening there. I don't know why.... God dammit developers build some kernels, roms
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Have to agree about it being dead around here. There was some activity at first when there a was a prize on offer...but since then, dead
I must admit I knew that if I wanted loads of development I should have bought the Nexus 10. Buying the SXTZ came with the risk of little or no development...and that risk has turned into reality.
On the other hand, the stock ROM is pretty good and at the moment going to a custom ROM means you'll lose more useful features than you gain.
All I really want on top of stock is Nova launcher and PIE/LTA so I can lose all the navigation/notification/status bars. That's why I've gone to PAC.
But I've lost my warranty, GPS, DRM keys, HDMI out, being able to charge with tablet off, and a few other things.
I sometimes wish I'd bought the Nexus 10...but I'm telling myself I've got to kick the ROM-flashing habit.
Oh well, at least I've got my Nexus 4 to keep me occupied
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Have to agree about it being dead around here. There was some activity at first when there a was a prize on offer...but since then, dead
I must admit I knew that if I wanted loads of development I should have bought the Nexus 10. Buying the SXTZ came with the risk of little or no development...and that risk has turned into reality.
On the other hand, the stock ROM is pretty good and at the moment going to a custom ROM means you'll lose more useful features than you gain.
All I really want on top of stock is Nova launcher and PIE/LTA so I can lose all the navigation/notification/status bars. That's why I've gone to PAC.
But I've lost my warranty, GPS, DRM keys, HDMI out, being able to charge with tablet off, and a few other things.
I sometimes wish I'd bought the Nexus 10...but I'm telling myself I've got to kick the ROM-flashing habit.
Oh well, at least I've got my Nexus 4 to keep me occupied
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Well, i know Sony products are not so popular among the developers, but than again this one in my opinion is among the best tablets, so it should have been better. Oh well maybe it is due to something like price, or something else.
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Well, i know Sony products are not so popular among the developers, but than again this one in my opinion is among the best tablets, so it should have been better. Oh well maybe it is due to something like price, or something else.
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Don't look now, but TechRadar seems to share the same views as us. They also gave the SXTZ top honors as 2013's tablet: http://www.techradar.com/news/mobile-computing/tablets/10-best-tablet-pcs-in-the-world-today-1079603
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Well, i know Sony products are not so popular among the developers, but than again this one in my opinion is among the best tablets, so it should have been better. Oh well maybe it is due to something like price, or something else.
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I just don't comprehend why Sony products are favored by developers.... Sony offers so very much better support than other OEMs, like Samsung and HTC, and send updates ,such faster than other OEMs as well. It seems like Sony would/should be a developer favorite, the only thing I can think of is that no major Sony flagship smartphones are carried by the major US carriers, AT&T and T-Mobile have carried 1 or 2 but Verizon hasn't had one since the Play, but there should still be more development.
The price tag is another thing hindering development but not much, the other tablets I was looking at before I purchased the XTZ offered much less for the same amount or more, really the price is not too bad when you think about it. The LTE model is overpriced, $900 in the US when I bout my WiFi model, but I would guess the reason for that would be to deter people from buying it off contract. If money is the issue there have still been major amounts of development on phones and tablets with the same, or higher, price tag, I paid less for my XTZ than my Note 2 or any other phone I've bought in the past few years, so there has to be something I am missing.
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shangrila500 said:
I just don't comprehend why Sony products are favored by developers....
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I think you mean " I just don't comprehend why Sony products are not favored by developers...."