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Does anyone have issues with video playback? It seems that every file I throw at the hero seems to have audio and video synchronization issues. Specifically, video lags behind audio, you hear something and see it later. I've tried HTC's player and Meridian. The files play on my pc just fine and aren't huge files.
Are there some recommended bitrates for Hero? I'm using an iPod/phone converter (videora) to get my files encoded which has options for bitrate. Bit disappointed that the Hero can't keep up with iPhone again though.
EDIT: Good News, scroll down for my conversion settings.
Hi, there are multiple threads on this subject on this forum. Just open the Hero main forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=508
... and do a search for "video" from the "Search this forum" -tool to the right.
In short, the Hero has massive problems playing mp4-video without a glitch. The best I've acchieved is smooth video that slows down a bit and then becomes faster to catch up with the timeline every 10 seconds.
This can be done by using an exact set of conversion options with one of many many encoders. Some say it works perfectly for them, but I suspect their eyes are just not as finely tuned as mine
Main thing seems to be the target resolution can be no higher than 480x360.
Try encoding/downloading psp video files its not 100% but very close
jayjay said:
Hi, there are multiple threads on this subject on this forum. Just open the Hero main forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=508
... and do a search for "video" from the "Search this forum" -tool to the right.
In short, the Hero has massive problems playing mp4-video without a glitch. The best I've acchieved is smooth video that slows down a bit and then becomes faster to catch up with the timeline every 10 seconds.
This can be done by using an exact set of conversion options with one of many many encoders. Some say it works perfectly for them, but I suspect their eyes are just not as finely tuned as mine
Main thing seems to be the target resolution can be no higher than 480x360.
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Cheers dude, I did look but I can't find anything about synchronisation, my videos aren't dropping frames (or at least that doesn't bother me), it's just that the audio is constantly out of sync with video. Makes everything look like it's dubbed, when people talk their lips don't match the sound. You see an explosion (for example)and hear it later.
I'm going to do some experiments with bitrates and converters today.
How exciting!
4 hours later, 3 different converters and no good news.
Has anyone got any settings and a converter to recommend?
Dude try using psp settings. I was having the same issues with avi's & mp4's but now I'm using psp settings its almost perfect
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Dude try using psp settings. I was having the same issues with avi's & mp4's but now I'm using psp settings its almost perfect
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Could you post what the settings are? I tried a load of things earlier and it was all rubbish.
Resolution, bit rate for video and audio as well as file type would be grrrrreat!
Well, I -THINK- I've cracked it.
There are some dropped frames still but image quality is good and the sound is in sync. Here are the settings when using Handbrake http://handbrake.fr/?article=download to do the conversion:
If I don't give a value for it, then you don't need to change it.
Format: MP4
Crop: Automatic
Width/Height: 480 / Blank
Anamorphic: None
VideoCodec: Mpeg-4 (FFmpeg)
Framerate 23.976
2 pass encoding: Check
Avg Bitrate: 750
Audio Source: Automatic
Audio Codec: AAC
Mixdown: Stereo
Samplerate: 48k
Bitrate: 128
That's the best result I got after HOURS of experimenting but I'd be interested if anyone has anything better.
I see you already went ahead and did your own tests... Here are some relevant threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=544498
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550529&
I myself, haven't been able to get Handbrake working with any settings. Audio always stutters like crazy, so the video is basically unwatchable.
What does work for me is Videora, which has a bunch of free converters bundled for a specific platform, so you can get a Videora iPod -edition and a Videora HTC-edition. There's a general edition as well.
The GUI is horrific and loads weird web pages into a huge box inside the program (presumably to allow advertising whilst using the program), but I did manage to get the smoothest playback out of it of all the converters I tried. I think I even went with default settings for HTC G1-video.
The video plays ok, the sound and video are in sync, but the video slows down and catches up every 10 seconds or so.
Hope you get it working! I am pretty hopeful that the coming update will alleviate the problem...
Thanks, will have a look at those threads. The Videora converter didn't work well at all for me, I'm wondering if there are certain files that retain characteristics that the phone doesn't like. IE that you may get a better result with converting from divx to mp4 than, for example high quality mp4 to something the hero can handle.
So is there such a thing as "perfect" handbrake settings for TP2?
I've been playing with it a couple of hours, and these are the settings I'm down to using:
Output Settings, Format: MP4 file
Picture Settings tab: 640 x 400 (what are you guys using?)
Video Tab: Video Codec MPEG-4 (FFmpeg), framerate 29.97, 2 pass encoding, average bitrate (kbps) 600
Audio&Subtitles tab: Automatic Source, AAC Audio Codec, Mixdown Dolby Pro Logic II, samplerate Khz Auto, Bitrate (kps) 160
I haven't really touched anything else, but with these settings I seem to be getting the slightest lag where sometimes I can perceive the frame rate, for lack of a better term. It's as if the smoothness is about 90% - 95% there, but not quite. Anything I can do about that? I tried making the width x height numbers smaller, but it didn't seem to work.
What are you guys using for handbrake settings? Are you touching any other settings than the ones I mention above?
I've tried all sorts of setting with HandBrake (including yours, just now) and there always appears to be a bit of a stutter. I've had much more luck using SUPER encoder (encoding to AVI).
I just reencoded a divx file to MP4 using x.264 compression and it plays smooth as silk using the HTC album application. That was on the latest 6.5.1 (504) Valkyrie (sp?) ROM as of a couple of days ago. I am probably going to flash to the new 28002 Energy ROM tonight so we'll see if it still works there.
Avatar28 said:
I just reencoded a divx file to MP4 using x.264 compression and it plays smooth as silk using the HTC album application. That was on the latest 6.5.1 (504) Valkyrie (sp?) ROM as of a couple of days ago. I am probably going to flash to the new 28002 Energy ROM tonight so we'll see if it still works there.
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What were you other settings on handbrake? I guess you selected h.264(x264) under the video tab. What did you use for avg. bitrate on the video tab and what did you use for width/height or anything else under the "picture settings" tab?
I'm not familiar with the ROM stuff you're referring to.
Thanks for the info. I'm still playing with these handbrake settings!
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What were you other settings on handbrake? I guess you selected h.264(x264) under the video tab. What did you use for avg. bitrate on the video tab and what did you use for width/height or anything else under the "picture settings" tab?
I'm not familiar with the ROM stuff you're referring to.
Thanks for the info. I'm still playing with these handbrake settings!
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Sorry, the site freaked out and I couldn't finish my post. Anyways, I actually used the free version of Any Video Converter and not handbrake (I got them both about the same time. That theoretically shouldn't make that much of a difference though when using the same settings. It just seems a bit easier to me to use.
I went with the original size. It might not make a difference but I have this nice, high-res screen, might as well take advantage of it, right? Original size in this case was 592x320. Video bitrate was set at 768k and the audio was 128k AAC. Windows shows them slightly lower in the file properties for whatever reason, though, 749k and 125k respectively.
My final file size was around 554 MB compared to right around 1000 MB for the original xvid. This was for an hour and a half movie.
I think you could approximate the settings by using the xbox 360 profile and changing the target bitrate for video and audio to something closer to the values I used.
Edit: This is the link to the ROM I was using. You will note that it appears to have updated D3D drivers so that might make a difference as I have heard of people having stuttering issues with WM 6.5 using the HTC album player in Manila. I point that out because the HTC player is apparently one of the only ones capable of taking advantage of the GPU accleration in the phone to handle the video decoding. Other players are more likely to stutter due to doing CPU decoding.
Presets
I haven't used Handbrake in about a month. I used 0.93 for Windows. When I converted something for my phones, I would use the Iphone/Ipod Touch preset. It's converts to a h.264 MP4 file. I would dial back the resolution for my Tilt. With my Tilt2 I raise the preset resolution to 800 instead of 640. I play it with the latest Coreplayer or TCPMP GF5500 Edition. The videos are amazing. I have been trying the GUI posted earlier because it's much faster.
bennyj71 said:
I haven't used Handbrake in about a month. I used 0.93 for Windows. When I converted something for my phones, I would use the Iphone/Ipod Touch preset. It's converts to a h.264 MP4 file. I would dial back the resolution for my Tilt. With my Tilt2 I raise the preset resolution to 800 instead of 640. I play it with the latest Coreplayer or TCPMP GF5500 Edition. The videos are amazing. I have been trying the GUI posted earlier because it's much faster.
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Thanks!
Avatar28 said:
I went with the original size. It might not make a difference but I have this nice, high-res screen, might as well take advantage of it, right? Original size in this case was 592x320. Video bitrate was set at 768k and the audio was 128k AAC. Windows shows them slightly lower in the file properties for whatever reason, though, 749k and 125k respectively.
My final file size was around 554 MB compared to right around 1000 MB for the original xvid. This was for an hour and a half movie.
I think you could approximate the settings by using the xbox 360 profile and changing the target bitrate for video and audio to something closer to the values I used.
Edit: This is the link to the ROM I was using. You will note that it appears to have updated D3D drivers so that might make a difference as I have heard of people having stuttering issues with WM 6.5 using the HTC album player in Manila. I point that out because the HTC player is apparently one of the only ones capable of taking advantage of the GPU accleration in the phone to handle the video decoding. Other players are more likely to stutter due to doing CPU decoding.
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Ok thanks. I'll have to try the x264 setting. I thought I tried that once with handbrake when I was playing with a 10 minute DVD trailer, but for some reason my TP2 wouldn't play it. It might have been just a bad file conversion that particular time, but I assumed at the time it was just an unusable conversion type. I have been using the MPEG4 (FFmpeg) file and that seemed to work every time. I haven't a clue what the difference is.
I think I'm still using WM 6.1. I'm relatively new to this stuff and I'm not too sure about what a ROM is. I know it means "read only memory," but how it applies to my phone or how I can modify it and what the consequences are of changing it- I don't understand.
Ive used Super to convert a DVD rip of Iron Man to my TP2 @ 720x 480 resolution @ 1200kbps in MP4 h246 and it looks sexy! you have to make sure all other apps are closed and surprisingly enough, Windows Media Player handles this file with ease(Windows media player actually works now!It only took 10 years!lol) and framerate is movie speed @29.970. Even more surprising is the fact that this is playing on a virgin device( running the stock ATT ROM till tomorrow....) and the current ROM is incredibly bloated.
"Avidemux" is an awesome program to easily convert your movies. I use "Handbrake" to RIP but I find "Avidemux" much better for movie/video conversions. it has presets but will also let you setup formats, crops, etc. anyway you want. It has enormous capability and still easy to use. I use it to convert to 640 x (?) (xvid) mp4 @ 700 kbps with 128 kbps AAC audio for use with the Album player and it is sharp with no stuttering. I am going to use it to convert to x264 mp4 @ 1000 kbps and see how WMP handles it as a test but I generally despise WMP.
Handbrake
I've never posted here before but after trying Core Player and its stuttering after I installed Mighty Rom i found that using the standard IPod Touch and Iphone settings showed video clear as all hell with no stutter (changed resolution - increased a little).
Try it?
NH3MAN said:
"Avidemux" is an awesome program to easily convert your movies. I use "Handbrake" to RIP but I find "Avidemux" much better for movie/video conversions. it has presets but will also let you setup formats, crops, etc. anyway you want. It has enormous capability and still easy to use. I use it to convert to 640 x (?) (xvid) mp4 @ 700 kbps with 128 kbps AAC audio for use with the Album player and it is sharp with no stuttering. I am going to use it to convert to x264 mp4 @ 1000 kbps and see how WMP handles it as a test but I generally despise WMP.
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I've never posted here before but after trying Core Player and its stuttering after I installed Mighty Rom i found that using the standard IPod Touch and Iphone settings showed video clear as all hell with no stutter (changed resolution - increased a little).
Try it?
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Thanks guys, I'll try them.
omarmir said:
I've never posted here before but after trying Core Player and its stuttering after I installed Mighty Rom i found that using the standard IPod Touch and Iphone settings showed video clear as all hell with no stutter (changed resolution - increased a little).
Try it?
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Damn! Finally. I posted about this 15 days ago. You should update to the new Handbrake. It's much faster.
The Best Settings and the best CONVERTER For TP2
In 2 weeks I've tried it all. 8 converters to be exact. The best one out there worth anyones time is a converter call AVS Video Converter 6.3(not free but reall worth it trust me). It has it all! It's pretty quick compare to the rest, but most importantly pumps out excellent video quality with smooth framerate. There's a few that's faster but most of them has bad famerates, bad quality, or both. Yes bad framerate playing on my super computer. The best settings that work for my TP2 is the following:M4vipod at 415 bitrate, 24fps, 640X384. Plays smooth looks great can't ask for more!
Converters I Tried: Handbrake 9.3 too slow
Handbrake 9.4 got sound no video?
Iwisoft choppy framerate looks very promising waiting for a newer version
Ultra mobile 3gp not enough settings file comes out to big and to slow
Any Video Converter when it works it very good, freezes to often during conversions plus to slow.
And a few others I don't remember.
Thanks hope I can help.
how come I only got the sound with no video from the H264 files I converted with Handbrake on max OS X....
I have been trying to get my new Sprint Touch Pro 2 to run movies smoothly using Windows Media Player Mobile. This is a very difficult task... I think I have just succeeded. At first, I was using Handbrake to encode my DVD using the 640 resolution setting. This worked great for playing on my home computer, but after using Mobile Device Center to Sync my TP2 and playing the MP4 in Windows Media Player Mobile, I only got video to play and NO AUDIO.
This was very frustrating for a long time. I finally solved the problem. I increased the video resolution to 720 in Handbrake (leaving the audio settings as is), and bingo....the audio and video both play using Windows Media Player Mobile. I used the 23fps, 16:9 setting and 768 bitrate and it plays pretty well. Not sure why audio is not playing using the 640 resolution...any ideas???
-Chris
So I must be doing something wrong. Im using a failry new pc (Acer Iconia Tablet PC) and I started to convert a file in Handbrake last night around 12, 8am this morning its still converting.. what is the deal here?
I am trying to convert a .m4v file to .mp4 and the issue is that the file has subtitled I need to have burned in. I typically use videora but it didn't recognize the file.
I did the settings here (iphone settings) and i actually queued up 2 versions one with ac3 audio and one with aac, not sure which one i was supposed to choose.
Everything else was standard (subtitles burned in).
the movie is a 2.5 hour movie why is it taking so long.
I wish I was better with using vlc's conversion settings.
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I don't know the perfect settings, but these at least get you going with good results. They require modifying a profile which is x264 level 2.1 before I found this out I had some hit and miss results with 0.9.3 occasional green screen with sound in the Album player and consistently no video in the higher versions.
I'm using 0.9.5 now. The first thing you want to do is uncheck "always use iPod friendly file extension (.m4v) for mp4" in Tools>Options>General and maybe enable Query Editor tab in Tools>Options>Advanced/Other.
Then you want to pick the level 2.1 Apple preset: iPhone & iPod Touch
Change the Audio Mixdown to Stereo, Samplerate to 48
Change the Video to Avg Bitrate 1000 for lower res, 650 for near or full 800x480
Preset>Save Preset
Minor changes to the new preset can now be saved by right clicking on it.
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So I must be doing something wrong. Im using a failry new pc (Acer Iconia Tablet PC) and I started to convert a file in Handbrake last night around 12, 8am this morning its still converting.. what is the deal here?
I am trying to convert a .m4v file to .mp4 and the issue is that the file has subtitled I need to have burned in. I typically use videora but it didn't recognize the file.
I did the settings here (iphone settings) and i actually queued up 2 versions one with ac3 audio and one with aac, not sure which one i was supposed to choose.
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Encoders need raw power your tablet PC has a specialised processor. I don't think you can burn in subtitles yet in Handbrake unless the source is DVD and they're VobSub (unsure about BluRay source) and the Audio must be set to AAC.
I think you will need to use Avidemux which has support for burning in many subtitle formats. I didn't have much luck with it up to now as it appears the Windows stable version r7200 is quite broken, partially rendered VobSubs, and crashing during encoding. So far so good using the latest beta r7317 hosted by Gruntster on the iPod preset.
Dear Friends!
I spent last two weeks trying different app's to get best solution for Movie experience on our beloved Rhodium/Tilt2/Touch pro2 device.
The main idea was to get divx movie to play smoothly and to get best quality as possible.
As we know H.264 codec (mp4) is hardware supported and it gives best results.
So considering that, I got best video experience with inbuilt HTC player that supports hardware acceleration for video.
It does not have a lot of options, and scrolling forward and backward is a little cumber stone, but it provides the best picture so I think (IMHO) is still the best choice.
When Choosing right software my main goal was to have as few steps as possible.
I found that the easiest way to do the conversion is with ImTOO Video Converter Ultimate 6. (http://www.imtoo.com/video-converter.html)
I tried a lot of different software, Trial and Freeware, and ImToo proved to be the best from lot of different perspectives. So it's my number one choice for this task (and also some other video encoding stuff.)
STEP1. Subtitles (Skip to STEP2 if You don't need them)
In case English is not your native language, you would probably (like me) want to have some subtitles with your movie:
You will need to convert *.srt and *.sub subtitles to *.ssa type, so You could get 'Outline and Drop Shadow' effect.
'Subtitle Workshop' (http://www.videohelp.com/tools/Subtitle_Workshop) seems perfect for that. (It has all needed settings and also Batch conversion option)
Press Shift+Alt+L to get to Settings/Output menu, where You can set the subtitle settings like Font, Color, etc.
Choose SubStation Alpha (*.ssa)
Border style: 'Outline + drop shadow'
Font:Arial, Bold, 22, (works best for me), encoding...
Load Subtitle and save it as SubStation Alpha format or use Batch Converting option under Tools/Batch Convert options (Ctrl+M) (if You have more than one subtitle to convert):
-set the source folder for subtitles, output folder, FPS and SubStation Alpha format.
STEP2. Encoding to H.264 format with Imtoo
a.Load your video file
b.Load the profile in general video format/ 'H.264/MPEG4 AVC video'
and set conversion settings to
Video: (Manually enter!) Video Size 800x480,
Note: If You enter for example 576x432 instead 800x480, there will be no sound on your HTC, only video. Don't ask me why, it's the same thing that happens to lots of people with many different encoders and it has something to do with AAC settings detailed, which will also change, when you change video settings....but I am not enough in to hardcore encoding, to understand what is the reason, I only know that this problem appears to be very common when converting for Rhodium with different software....
Bitrate 256K, Frame rate 25FPS(should be same as sub file FPS!)
Audio:Mpeg-4 AAC, 44100, 128K
Now You should set/add Subtitles:
Go to: Edit/effect/Subtitles. (Note: only Ultimate version of Imtoo!)
Add Sub if not already there, and set font to Arial, Style to Bold and Size to 22 (or smaller if You prefer)
Convert the movie and transfer it to Your Touch pro2
That's it!
Enjoy playing Your file on HTC.
Final Output size of the file is not the same as stated Output Size, nor it is the Bitrate. Imtoo bug I guess...But File plays smoothly enough at least for my taste.
Try and let me know how it works for You!
What i do is open you tube in chrome and i already have chrome extension installed on chrome.http://www.chromeextensions.org/music-videos-photos/chrome-youtube-downloader/. So when i play video i get options to save video in all the available formats and the Mp4 video i get is usually 20mb or 25 mb (sometimes less than that) in best quality.
Other thing you can do is go to this site http://keep-tube.com/ and downlaod video in MP4 format in great quality.
I think the best option is chrome extension because you get best quality video/audio with less size
Give it a try.
I don't know why you do this, just download core player
I watch LOST season 6 on my phone just download jackos s2 rom and disable manila for better performance
I use Pocket Divx Encoder to make xvid files of my favorite videos and then play them with CorePlayer using the QTV setting for best quality.
I use DivX Player. It was made for QVGA but works just fine on TP2, just the menus & fonts are small. It'll play DivX encoded AVI's that must DVDRips are.
I know that Tegra 2 cannot handle high profile h.264 video playback, so I re encoded some of my videos using baseline settings and video is still slightly choppy whenever the camera is moving.
Anybody have any idea what the deal is?
The link below is a screenshot of mediainfo with one of the video files in question.
http://imgur.com/cdbYa
You might try dropping your video bit rate down to 2200. Been encoding using HandBrake with that and they've been coming out pretty smooth.
I have been using HandBrake with the bitrate at 4000 and the videos are smooth
I use constant quality.
But that doesn't seem to be the issue, I just encoded a sample at the bitrate you suggested and it still had slight playback problems.
Here are the h.264 encoding settings I'm using in handbrake.
This is what I got in mine
And here are the samples I made. One is at 2200 kbps the other is at a constant quality setting of 20. If someone could try them on their Xooms that would be awesome. Maybe I have a defective device.
Sorry to make you use Rapidshare, I couldn't get the attachment uploader to work. It would just hang after uploading the files.
http://rapidshare.com/files/451985226/Toy_Story_samples.zip
Hmmm. I started off with the iPod Legacy preset, then modified the picture size. Looking at my advanced settings, I see it has "Reference Frames" set to 1, "Partition Type" set to "All", and the "Psychovisual Rate Distortion" all the way to the left.
Not sure what any of that really does, but you might give it a try.
I might try encoding something with a higher bitrate just to see how it turns out.
I'm gonna try it, I'll let you know.
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And here are the samples I made. One is at 2200 kbps the other is at a constant quality setting of 20. If someone could try them on their Xooms that would be awesome. Maybe I have a defective device.
Sorry to make you use Rapidshare, I couldn't get the attachment uploader to work. It would just hang after uploading the files.
http://rapidshare.com/files/451985226/Toy_Story_samples.zip
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It is slightly choppy in the beginning. Here is the .plist file I'm using. I got it from someone but I don't remember. All the videos that I have encode look great.
Grrr, even using the settings in that plist I'm still getting the slightly choppy playback. It's only noticeable when the camera is moving.
If you still have to convert, why not just convert it to mpeg4 (.mp4) with 3,000 kbits rate? It looks blu-ray quality for me. I used either the program Ultra MKV Converter or Xilisoft Video Converter Ultimate.
I can playback main profile vids just fine.. level 3.1 mp4, aac audio. I can post up a batch file that I made.. it just requires dgnvindex.. I drop a mkv file and it re-encodes in about 14 minutes.. granted, I do have a 3.9 GHz amd hexacore.
The important thing is the cmd line for the 64-bit x264 enc binary I use.. I can post a short test video for those that would like to try it out... robot chicken ep anyone?
If you could post the script as well as an example video that would be fantastic.
I'm beginning to think maybe my Xoom is defective as the settings I'm using should play smooth on just about anything.
Here is a video I encoded this morning: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=MIX4IUTB
I used these settings in handbrake:
--quality 21 --encoder x264 --x264opts no-8x8dct:bframes=0:no-cabac:cqm=flat:weightp=0 --drc 2.0 --markers --format mp4 --maxWidth 1280
media player classic reports this as having a bitrate of 4000. It runs great on my xoom. There is no lag at all or frame drops using the stock movie player.
I have a few videos that have hit 8000kbps, and they run great too. I'm thinking about trying to get it up to 10k to see if the xoom can handle it or not.
I played back your video on my xoom. It looks like it's playing smooth, but there aren't very many pans or high motion camera movements in it, which is where I have been seeing most of the choppiness.
I remoted to my machine at home and got handbrake transcoding another video using your settings. Should be done by the time I get home.
I recently encoded a handfull of movies for my Xoom, one being the new Tron Legacy movie.
I re-encoded a 1080p mkv file
these are the settings I used
Picture Settings:
Anamorphic: strict
Filters:
Decomb - default
Detelecine - default
Target size: 3900 (since the xoom can't handle files larger than 4gb)
Audio tab: remove all but one channel since you don't need multiple streams
Advanced:
Referenced Frames - Default (3)
Maximum B-Frames - 0
CABAC Entropy Coding: unchecked
8x8 transform: unchecked
weighted p-frames: unchecked
option string should be: 8x8dct=0:bframes=0:cabac=0:weightp=0
screenshots are...
http://img.exstatica.net/images/screenutu.png
http://img.exstatica.net/images/screenlsl.png
exported preset
http://www.exstatica.net/HB_Export.plist
If you use the exported hb settings make sure you still modify the picture settings as its not stored in the preset.
So I've been messing with this same issue since launch day and I had a revelation two days ago. I got out my iPad and played the same file but using the iPad preset in Handbrake for the encode, just like I have for the last year. The iPad had the same exact, imperfect, slight hitching in the playback of slow camera pans! I realized that because the picture on the XOOM is bigger, and I'm scrutinizing it like crazy with my face up against the screen, I'm noticing it more than I ever had before.
Conclusion: the iPad has almost the same exact video playback characteristics as the XOOM and it's probably not getting any better. I think a lot of it simply has to do with encoders compression capabilities and deficiencies, but I could be wrong.
Still no better with those exact encoding settings.
My device must be defective.
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh you will awake the trolls
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So I've been messing with this same issue since launch day and I had a revelation two days ago. I got out my iPad and played the same file but using the iPad preset in Handbrake for the encode, just like I have for the last year. The iPad had the same exact, imperfect, slight hitching in the playback of slow camera pans! I realized that because the picture on the XOOM is bigger, and I'm scrutinizing it like crazy with my face up against the screen, I'm noticing it more than I ever had before.
Conclusion: the iPad has almost the same exact video playback characteristics as the XOOM and it's probably not getting any better. I think a lot of it simply has to do with encoders compression capabilities and deficiencies, but I could be wrong.
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Handbrake preset export
Here is my current handbrake setup for encoding any HD movies for my Xoom.
I have encoded 10 full length movies and they all play fine... including ones with lots of light changes and fast action scenes. I notice no tearing or glitches.
Attached is the .plist preset. just rename it from xoom.plist.txt to xoom.plist and go to handbrake preset menu and import it.
Hello there guys!
Today I'm gonna share my encoding settings that I think are the best for movie/tv-show/anime watching on ideos x5(pro/non-pro) screen.
Note: Encoding is a very heavy task for a computer. Make sure that you computer has at least 2 CPU cores and 2 gb of RAM before proceeding.
For example I have an Intel Core 2 Quad Q9300 (4 cores at 2,5 GHz),4gb RAM and Win7 x64. Re-enconding 20 minutes of anime/movie takes about 5 to 7 minutes. Output file size is about 160-180 MB.
Anyway.Let's get started!
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1) Download a program called HandBrake. You can get it here:http://handbrake.fr/downloads.php
Note: If you have 64bit OS get the 64bit version of the program,as this will greatly speed up the encoding progress.
2) Install HandBrake(hope you know how to do it ).
3) Run HandBrake
Note: In Windows in case it shows up an error when trying to run it, try running it as admin.
4) Find a movie/tv-show/anime file to re-encode + proper sub suitable for your needs
5) Take a break here and get ready for the hard part
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1) Click the Source icon located in top left corner in HandBrake interface. Press select video file (I won't do a source->folder example since it's pretty much the same.)
Select your video file. Usually the extension of your video file will be something like .avi .mp4 .m4v .mkv etc.
2) Now in Output Settings (Preset: Normal) make sure that Container: is set to MP4 File
Now click the browse button located a little bit above and right and give a name and location to your output file
The hard part really starts here...
3) In Picture Tab set Anamorphic: to None
See how Width and Height changed and you can now edit their values?
Now change Width: to 800 and Height: to 480 (that's x5(all versions) screen resolution)
Make sure Keep Aspect Ratio is UN-CHECKED
4) Switch to Video tab (leave Video Filters Tab as is)
Set Video Codec: to MPEG-4 (FFmpeg)
Framerate (FPS): Same as source (leave as is)
Constant/Variable Framerate don't make a difference to me but feel free messing around with these options if you want to.I just leave the default one(variable) selected
Now in Quality select Avg Bitrate (kbps):
Enter a value here from 850 to 950. The higher the value the better. I use 920 which I find very good. The only difference here is that in dark scenes higer values will give a better image,where lower values (i.e. 850) will make the image look a little "pixelated-like". Increase it even further (i.e. 1000-1150) if you are not satisfied with the result in your phone's screen.
5) Switch to Audio Tab
Remove any audio tracks you don't want by selecting them from the drop down menu and pressing remove in order to save up space
Now select the audio track you want to keep.
Change Audio Codec to AAC (ffmpeg) (2nd dropdown menu)
Change Mixdown to Stereo (3rd dropdown menu)
Leave the rest as is
6) Switch to Subtitles Tab
If you don't want any sub simply remove any sub track like you removed the audio track previously.
If your video file includes a sub stream(usually .mkv files have one) that you want to use for sure,select it from the track list and check forced only, burned in(This will hardcode the sub into the image.You won't be able to remove the sub after that.If you don't want that,then just remove the check from this checkbox) and finally check default.
If your video file has no sub track/stream but you have a working .srt or .sub file then continue reading.
7) Chapters Tab is useful for some people. I just just un-tick create chapter markers.
In advanced I dont' enter anything
8) Switch back to picture tab and revise your settings (also do this in video,audio and subtitles tab).
Correct any mistakes.
When you are ready press the Start Button located next to the Source Button you used to load your movie.
Encoding should start. Your pc may stop responding fast during re-encoding of your video file.That's normal. Just wait for it to finish.
After encoding finished test your re-encoded video in your computer to test if it is as you want it (in terms of video/audio quality and subs). Well you can't tell much about the video quality by viewing the video in your computer because image will be stretched to fit computer's screen resolution.
9) Now copy your re-encoded video file to your phone's sd card.Better make a folder called movie or something. Paste the movie there. Place any additional .srt subs you may have here.
Download MX Player from PlayStore. Install it.
Open MX Player and load your video. Make sure HW Decoder is in use. Load any sub stream you may have.
10) Turn your phone into landscape view and Enjoy!
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Well,that's it!
I hope my settings will proove useful for some users who want to use their phone more like a media center device.
Don't forget to click thanks if this helped you and also comment That means a lot to me!
If you disagree with some part of the guide,have another opinion/solution then feel free to comment and make this guide even better.
Cheers!
Guide is well written but why re-encode?
The only reason in my opinion is the free space, since our phone can play standard definition (didn't try HD) videos with srt subtitles (software decoded). If it is a space problem go with a bigger SD card re-encoding will cost in time...
Also keep in mind that any re-encode from a lossy codec to a lossy codec will cause loss of quality (even when re-encoding at the same bitrate/specs)
priestx said:
Guide is well written but why re-encode?
The only reason in my opinion is the free space, since our phone can play standard definition (didn't try HD) videos with srt subtitles (software decoded). If it is a space problem go with a bigger SD card re-encoding will cost in time...
Also keep in mind that any re-encode from a lossy codec to a lossy codec will cause loss of quality (even when re-encoding at the same bitrate/specs)
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By re-encoding to a lower resolution it may use less cpu power to decode it, and therefore less battery (could be wrong though, this may not be that noticeable).
But yes, our phone can even play HD videos (they seem to have a low framerate on my phone, but I think it is related to a slow sd card).
@priestx
Well to tell the truth I don't do it for the free space.
I watch a lot of anime but there all in .mkv format with softcoded subs at 720p resolution and a high bitrate (1200kbps avg).
Trust me you can't watch this even with hardware decoder.It's laggy. Of course software decoder served me quite well some times but that was for easier to handle videos(like standard avi files).
You are absolutely right saying that re-encoding costs in video quality and time,but I think it worths re-encoding in some special occasions you want to watch something somewhere else apart from your computer and u8800 specs fail to playback the video correctly. Also due to screen's size it's not very easy to spot quality drop ,but only in special scenes. The advantage of re-encoding to me is that I can use hw decoder no matter if I am in 2.3 or aurora and get proper video playback.If I don't re-encode usually I won't have a hw decoder option in 2.3 and in aurora playback will be laggy sometimes even with hw decoder.
@FlashTH
I also think it uses less power but I didn't do any tests to proove it.
I don't think that slow hd playback is due to your sd card(I have a class 8 and still a lot of 720p videos shutter/lag a little).
Anyway,thanks for your comments and opinions