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question on all vogue-android builds

which is the most stable for everyday use right now? also what happened to this tattoo build for us on qvga, i don't see it anywhere?

If you want something truly stable and fast, use the standard Ion build. Other than that, most of the Ion/Cupcake builds are very good for use. Such as the xRom builds or something like that.
The tatoo/hero/pulse/etc. builds are in the works and are not really stable. The ones which are "stable" usually run kind of slow on our hardware. Even though they are definitely cool and look awesome. They aren't really practical for everyday use imo.

TheKartus said:
If you want something truly stable and fast, use the standard Ion build. Other than that, most of the Ion/Cupcake builds are very good for use. Such as the xRom builds or something like that.
The tatoo/hero/pulse/etc. builds are in the works and are not really stable. The ones which are "stable" usually run kind of slow on our hardware. Even though they are definitely cool and look awesome. They aren't really practical for everyday use imo.
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yeah i tried the motorola build and it just stayed in a boot loop i call it. maybe ill wipe my card and try xrom again. i was hoping for this tattoo build because i hear it is native qvga.

fixxxer2008 said:
yeah i tried the motorola build and it just stayed in a boot loop i call it. maybe ill wipe my card and try xrom again. i was hoping for this tattoo build because i hear it is native qvga.
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I'm using the motor build at 240 x 320 & 110 lcd density... very nice. A few hiccups but this looks like my fav build so far. Once you get to homescreen let it settle down for a bit and it works well. Gps, native camera.... need to figure out how to fine-tune this puppy

none of these builds are functional enough for me to use everyday, im soo disappointed. that and now i can't buy the hero until next year because of $$ issues. im stuck with the damn vogue and winmo hell.
edit: i also didn't mean any disrespect to any of the devs on here either, you guys have done a great job. it's just been a bad day for me and i can never get any of these builds to run right on my vogue like some of you do.

fixxxer2008 said:
none of these builds are functional enough for me to use everyday, im soo disappointed. that and now i can't buy the hero until next year because of $$ issues. im stuck with the damn vogue and winmo hell.
edit: i also didn't mean any disrespect to any of the devs on here either, you guys have done a great job. it's just been a bad day for me and i can never get any of these builds to run right on my vogue like some of you do.
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I've been using xROM 1.5 for about 2 months with no issues what so ever. Why is it not functional enough for you to use? Everything works except bluetooth.

fixxxer2008 said:
none of these builds are functional enough for me to use everyday, im soo disappointed. that and now i can't buy the hero until next year because of $$ issues. im stuck with the damn vogue and winmo hell.
edit: i also didn't mean any disrespect to any of the devs on here either, you guys have done a great job. it's just been a bad day for me and i can never get any of these builds to run right on my vogue like some of you do.
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Any of the Ion builds are great for use everyday. All you lack is bluetooth and MMS but Android makes up for that with its other benefits. Ion is perfectly stable and fast.

right now im running zens xrom and it seems to be pretty stable soo far. ill give it a go this weekend.
couple questions.... can we take a screenshot at all yet? also is there a way to remove the clock from the taskbar? i find it stupid to have a clock on the taskbar and then a clock widget on the home screen.

fixxxer2008 said:
right now im running zens xrom and it seems to be pretty stable soo far. ill give it a go this weekend.
couple questions.... can we take a screenshot at all yet? also is there a way to remove the clock from the taskbar? i find it stupid to have a clock on the taskbar and then a clock widget on the home screen.
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yea follow this guide for screenshots. it worked for me. you have to download the sdk and use ddms in the tools akaik, its in the guide http://www.downloadsquad.com/2008/10/22/taking-screenshots-on-an-android-based-phone/

jamezelle said:
yea follow this guide for screenshots. it worked for me. you have to download the sdk and use ddms in the tools akaik, its in the guide http://www.downloadsquad.com/2008/10/22/taking-screenshots-on-an-android-based-phone/
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wow all of that to take a shot? i know there's an app for rooted users on the market.

fixxxer2008 said:
wow all of that to take a shot? i know there's an app for rooted users on the market.
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We don't have root access though.

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We don't have root access though.
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yeah i know, i was just saying. im shocked no one has tried to make a screenshot app for us vogue users.

fixxxer2008 said:
yeah i know, i was just saying. im shocked no one has tried to make a screenshot app for us vogue users.
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yeah but thats all we have to work with for now

fixxxer2008 said:
none of these builds are functional enough for me to use everyday, im soo disappointed. that and now i can't buy the hero until next year because of $$ issues. im stuck with the damn vogue and winmo hell.
edit: i also didn't mean any disrespect to any of the devs on here either, you guys have done a great job. it's just been a bad day for me and i can never get any of these builds to run right on my vogue like some of you do.
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I would recommend using SPB Mobile shell 3.1 or 3.5 and then adding the Revolution theme. It's a rip off of the Hero UI and SPB Mobile shell is the MOST stable Today plugin that I have used to date.
They made it over in France so use this link to translate for you.
Sence le Revolution

You have root access through su. And to take a pic you can use the debugger in the sdk.
And hero runs sense ui just fine so no need to fake it.

woke up this morning and my data connection went down in xrom. i had to reset the modem. what would cause this? this is one reason ive not been successful in using android for very long.

fixxxer2008 said:
woke up this morning and my data connection went down in xrom. i had to reset the modem. what would cause this? this is one reason ive not been successful in using android for very long.
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edit: i just read users of the real hero are having the same issues with data connection on top of a ton of other major issues. i think ill hold off buying the hero until a fix comes out. sprint cannot afford another failure at this point.

i think you need to just use windows mobile my friend. i've seen you bash and complain about this project enought times even on ppcgeeks. you never provide any usefull info besides what doesnt work. i use nfsfans latest winmo rom it's real nice but not prefect but i dont go creating my own thread just to complain about it

zenulator said:
i think you need to just use windows mobile my friend. i've seen you bash and complain about this project enought times even on ppcgeeks. you never provide any usefull info besides what doesnt work. i use nfsfans latest winmo rom it's real nice but not prefect but i dont go creating my own thread just to complain about it
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i didn't bash any devs on here, im having issues and im posting them, just like everyone else. i like android/hero but in my experience soo far i cannot find a build that is near functional for everyday uses. im going to buy a hero and pray it is more functional but ive been hearing owners say it has alot of issues as well. my vogues on its last leg and i need to upgrade. im running nfsfans rom and while its good, i hate winmo like most of you do.

fixxxer2008 said:
i didn't bash any devs on here, im having issues and im posting them, just like everyone else. i like android/hero but in my experience soo far i cannot find a build that is near functional for everyday uses. im going to buy a hero and pray it is more functional but ive been hearing owners say it has alot of issues as well. my vogues on its last leg and i need to upgrade. im running nfsfans rom and while its good, i hate winmo like most of you do.
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What about the ion build? That's every day usable in my eyes. And I've had problems with Windows mobile locking up and missing calls even on a stock Rom/radio...but to me I see more complaints from you than anyone else. I know things aren't prefect but users of other HTC windows phones would love to be able to run android as well as vogue/kaiser.

Can't have it all I guess? (Not really a rant thread)

Hello xda-ers!
I have been stalking around, tasting everybody's cooking for a couple of weeks now, and i have got to get something off my chest.
I did search, I do realize that what I am looking for can not be made and that its no one's fault (I might be giving htc a meaningful look right now).
I like a whole lot of roms and chefs here, I really do, but the rom I'm after seems to not exist - one of two options:
1. A hero rom with all the eyecandy, that's donut based for compatibility with newer apps like goggles and the like.
2. An Eclair rom that has video and youtube working.
And so I would like to ask of you wizzies, is there light at the end of the tunnel? Are things comming around? How do you see it?
Correct me if I'm wrong, hardware-ish the mytouch is 36 MB of ram shorter then a hero and a has a lesser camera, but its not like the hero is running its os on its last bits of ram or anything so basically what the hero can do the mytouch can do, no? Is it safe to assume that when the hero\magic gets an update (and I do hope that it does) someone could pull over some driver support for eclair or something?
Thank you all so much for all your hard work, you guys are the reason I love smartphones so much, I'm dirt poor but i promise I'll buy you guys a round of beer once I get out of college

Its a matter of time bro. Be batient. A month ago, none of the eclair roms had camera. Now they all do. A month before that none of the eclair roms had N1 voice keyboard. Now they all do. God knows what some of these amazing roms will have and do a month from now. [/good deed for the year]

Love the FAQ sig lol

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Correct me if I'm wrong, hardware-ish the mytouch is 36 MB of ram shorter then a hero and a has a lesser camera, but its not like the hero is running its os on its last bits of ram or anything so basically what the hero can do the mytouch can do, no? Is it safe to assume that when the hero\magic gets an update (and I do hope that it does) someone could pull over some driver support for eclair or something?
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What?
MT3G has 192MB Ram just like Dream but has 512 ROM like Hero.Hero has 288MB RAM.

Macrophage001 said:
Love the FAQ sig lol
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^5 to you bro

mnissan said:
1. A hero rom with all the eyecandy, that's donut based for compatibility with newer apps like goggles and the like.
2. An Eclair rom that has video and youtube working.
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1. The devs aren't the ones making the actual hero, they just make hero work with our phones. They can't just say "I want you to be donut", and it be donut. Htc decided to skip donut, and the devs can't do much about that. They can however give you 2.0 hero which is scattered about the forum.
2. Drivers, drivers, drivers. You know, the thing that appears in almost every first post for this problem

JAguirre1231 said:
1. The devs aren't the ones making the actual hero, they just make hero work with our phones. They can't just say "I want you to be donut", and it be donut. Htc decided to skip donut, and the devs can't do much about that. They can however give you 2.0 hero which is scattered about the forum.
2. Drivers, drivers, drivers. You know, the thing that appears in almost every first post for this problem
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As I've said, I realize that.
My point is that apperently you can't cook rosie\sense\whatever onto a 1.6 rom without htc (Ref: "I might be giving HTC a meaningful look") and at the same time you can cook it onto a 2.0 rom - which means broken video drivers.
I'm sure there's a good reason for it, and this is not a rant, just needed to let steam out I guess.

mnissan said:
As I've said, I realize that.
My point is that apperently you can't cook rosie\sense\whatever onto a 1.6 rom without htc (Ref: "I might be giving HTC a meaningful look") and at the same time you can cook it onto a 2.0 rom - which means broken video drivers.
I'm sure there's a good reason for it, and this is not a rant, just needed to let steam out I guess.
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Well steam out in the right section next time

JAguirre1231 said:
Well steam out in the right section next time
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LOL +2000
"if" you had searched you could have found answers to both of your questions... and maybe posted in the correct section.
maybe that "I might be giving HTC a meaningful look" should be turned into "i actually searched and posted in the Q&A section or the I didn't read before posting..."
No offence but seriously if you would have searched you would have found those 2 answers in almost every thread that had to do with hero or eclair...

mnissan said:
As I've said, I realize that.
My point is that apperently you can't cook rosie\sense\whatever onto a 1.6 rom without htc (Ref: "I might be giving HTC a meaningful look") and at the same time you can cook it onto a 2.0 rom - which means broken video drivers.
I'm sure there's a good reason for it, and this is not a rant, just needed to let steam out I guess.
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I think someone leaked an HTC branded Eclair ROM with the "rosie/sense/whatever," and that's why you see it cooked into a 2.0 ROM.

Bless him, don't be to hard its obvious he needs a carer

shadowch31 said:
Bless him, don't be to hard its obvious he needs a carer
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Im sorry if i hurt anyones feelings....uh not really but serious on the searching!
if i did hurt your feelings feel free to express your feelings to someone else because either you are too sensitive or it my be that time of month... use the Ipad and get over it!
Have a GREAT DAY!

Sxyman815 said:
Im sorry if i hurt anyones feelings....uh not really but serious on the searching!
if i did hurt your feelings feel free to express your feelings to someone else because either you are too sensitive or it my be that time of month... use the Ipad and get over it!
Have a GREAT DAY!
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iTampon's come with strings for easy removal.

JAguirre1231 said:
iTampon's come with strings for easy removal.
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iAlwaysPantyLiners come with wings!

Well, this has gone off topic very quickly. Not that it was technically on topic to begin with since it was posted in the wrong place...

fiktion said:
Well, this has gone off topic very quickly. Not that it was technically on topic to begin with since it was posted in the wrong place...
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It went off topic at the same rate the iPad went from wanted to ridiculed. What's so bad about that?

Well back on topic/kinda...
Do we know for sure that htc will release the necessary drivers for video playback/camera? It sounds like some people are positive we'll get them eventually...I switched back to donut because I like being able to watch youtube, but its amazing how far along eclair roms have come, and mad props to NCommander for reverse engineering the camera drivers. Without him we'd still have no camera at this point. But I was just wondering if its confirmed or not that we will indeed get those drivers from htc one day.

Well, T-Mobile is teasing us with an Eclair update for our phones. We shall see.

What I would REALLY like is a ROM that is smooth and as responsive and the one on the iPhone. Doesn't need fancy apps, just the basic things like Messaging, Phone, Browser, camera/camcorder, apps of course. Anyone else think the same? It's what I have been looking for , for a long time

Snipe175 said:
What I would REALLY like is a ROM that is smooth and as responsive and the one on the iPhone. Doesn't need fancy apps, just the basic things like Messaging, Phone, Browser, camera/camcorder, apps of course. Anyone else think the same? It's what I have been looking for , for a long time
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There's actually one like that, it's called iPhone OS. I suggest you buy an iPhone and try it

Android 2.1 running on x10, (VIDEO)

I dont know if this has been covered yet but i thought you guys would be interested in this information
www youtube com /watch?v=2z-9XgbehQ4
the video shows an X10 running android 2.1, its not clear as to wether its rooted or not but its definately running it
(cant post links, so u have to edit the link before pasting it into your browser )

Pretty nifty! Took forever to boot, hey? Besides the boot logo the fw didnt look SE whored out. Perhaps it is root? Or maybe an early se build?

This video was posted today in youtube.lets hope the guy tell us how he did it

that's a crappy video, hard to see. must have been taken with a crappy phone lol

I must get in touch with that guy to ask him about multitouch capabilities. If this is the official clean 2.1 we can get the final response (the only limit, in this case, could be the bootloader but I don't think so).

the first logo looks like an Arrow sign , may be downloading something to the phone or something else that is why it took that long

Alleniv said:
I must get in touch with that guy to ask him about multitouch capabilities. If this is the official clean 2.1 we can get the final response (the only limit, in this case, could be the bootloader but I don't think so).
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SE as stated several times that the screen is not hardwarewise capable of MT.

yeah great no multitouch we get it, does anyone have ANY idea how this was done?

LRI said:
SE as stated several times that the screen is not hardwarewise capable of MT.
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And Synaptics has stated several times to me <<just wait and see>>. I believe in multitouch, IMHO it's only a patent problem

For the record Synaptics managed to soft enable multi touch gestures on there standard trackpad panels, its more than possible to enable it with a little bit of fancy work (eg registering each touch seperatly at high speed and then relaying it as a single multi touch gesture to the OS). Multitouch is what everyone is obsessing over today then eh? weather its possible or not is no one else at all at interested in who even did this let alone how?! Peace and love.

Greenarcher707™ said:
that's a crappy video, hard to see. must have been taken with a crappy phone lol
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ya .. except the boot logo .. cant seem to see anythng else ..

it can also be some emulator+remote desktop video, as it was with htc hd2 running wp7. i am staying calm in this case, no additional info, nothing written there.. even the video quality. from my point of view it is not real.

proyaz said:
ya .. except the boot logo .. cant seem to see anythng else ..
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except the fact that its a stock android build and theres no SE UXP stuff?

charlie42 said:
it can also be some emulator+remote desktop video, as it was with htc hd2 running wp7. i am staying calm in this case, no additional info, nothing written there.. even the video quality. from my point of view it is not real.
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10chars.

If its fake i say we get a hold of his email and email him in bulk stating how much of a **** he is, i however dont think its fake, if it was you would expect much more input/response latency than we are seeing, it looks native, and if he where to fake it he would have used 2.2......

Yes, but if you run it in emulator and access it via wifi in local network, the responses also can be quite good.. And as far as I know, hacking the bootloader is really not easy, and honestly - if I'd done it, at first I would write some informations about what I've done.. And not just some "nothing saying" video on youtube..

yeah i think its a little bit conspicuous but.. im not looking for reasons that its fake, lets just take it at face value for the moment. i still am of the view that remote connection isn't as fast as navigation in that video, im going to test this out tonight.

do vanilla 2.1 have a blue status bar like in our 1.6 X10 ? if not it maybe an early SE 2.1 build that they promised because i clearly see a blue status bar and as you guys mentioned the boot-loader is hard to crack

not sure about that ive heard the phone can have multitouch
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SE as stated several times that the screen is not hardwarewise capable of MT.
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its blocked

skylinegtrvspec said:
its blocked
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Can you please give your delusions a rest? I mean... I respect that you wanna give yourself false hope, but please don't give disappointments to the community around you.
It's a fact that it's been officially announced that the hardware doesn't have the capapilities.
I can introduce you a good search engine called 'Google', and to can visit the official Sony Ericsson blogs for the facts.
Sigh...

CAMARa problem

can some one help me with my camera , the camera picture quality is real bad n i dont kno wat to do . i have flsh the kumar rom n it works great but no matter wat i do the picture is garbage is this the phone its self?

Seks718 said:
can some one help me with my camera , the camera picture quality is real bad n i dont kno wat to do . i have flsh the kumar rom n it works great but no matter wat i do the picture is garbage is this the phone its self?
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No, it's capable of taking some great pictures, in the right conditions and use...can you give some more details on what you're trying to take pictures of, etc? And please clarify exactly what you mean by "the picture is garbage"
Some tips:
-make sure the lens cover is clean, every time before you take pics...it doesn't take very much crud or finger grease on there to distort your images
-hold the phone as still as possible when shooting, the HD2 doesn't have a lot of instability tolerance
-lighting is crucial, you may have to make adjustments in the environment when taking indoor shots
-go into the settings on the camera (the little gear icon that appears when you hit the tab below the shutter button), and then choose "advanced". On page one is the resolution setting, and on page two is the quality setting...make sure both of those aren't set too low.

also, learning how to spell really helps...if you cant, people on here are less inclined to answer you. just a heads up

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also, learning how to spell really helps...if you cant, people on here are less inclined to answer you. just a heads up
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Really man...? We have people here from all different countries. Spelling is probably the least of our worries. Now noobs coming in asking about Android on HD2, probably more of an issue to call someone out on.

donkeypunch85 said:
Really man...? We have people here from all different countries. Spelling is probably the least of our worries. Now noobs coming in asking about Android on HD2, probably more of an issue to call someone out on.
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the title of the section is called "T-Mobile USA(!!!!!) HTC HD2". if he had an international version he wouldnt have posted it on this forum.

sirphunkee said:
-make sure the lens cover is clean, every time before you take pics...it doesn't take very much crud or finger grease on there to distort your images
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I can attest to this one: Couple of finger smudges and all of the sudden your once-sharp pics get blurry. A quick wipe with the inside of a cotton shirt is all I do.

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the title of the section is called "T-Mobile USA(!!!!!) HTC HD2". if he had an international version he wouldnt have posted it on this forum.
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You missed one key word... PEOPLE from different countries. Not the phone lol. He could be from another country of origin; meaning his spelling of words in the English dictionary might not be perfect.
Maybe he just failed English for all I know. Point is, theres far more constructive things to do on this forum than faulting other members for spelling a word wrong

lol thanks people for the reply, and it was funny also , anyway i like the phone when i got it n the new roms that u can flash are great but i think im giving up on this phone plus not a lot of good apps, what i really like was the size of the screen, movies are great on it ,n big plus that it was a windows phone n no im not an iphone fan . This phone has a lot of potential . Any one know of a better phone for Tmobile?

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lol thanks people for the reply, and it was funny also , anyway i like the phone when i got it n the new roms that u can flash are great but i think im giving up on this phone plus not a lot of good apps, what i really like was the size of the screen, movies are great on it ,n big plus that it was a windows phone n no im not an iphone fan . This phone has a lot of potential . Any one know of a better phone for Tmobile?
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no phone right now considering the HD2 can now run android (with data!). it will be its top phone for...at least a year.

Seks718 said:
lol thanks people for the reply, and it was funny also , anyway i like the phone when i got it n the new roms that u can flash are great but i think im giving up on this phone plus not a lot of good apps, what i really like was the size of the screen, movies are great on it ,n big plus that it was a windows phone n no im not an iphone fan . This phone has a lot of potential . Any one know of a better phone for Tmobile?
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Samsung vibrant is pretty awesome. I played with one yesterday. If you dont like the apps on the hd2 that pretty much limits you to android.

i would love to put android on my phone but i dont think is running all that great yet right ? or m i wrong , i think its to soon for me to do that flsh n i only started flashing not to long ago so far i tryed kumar , cell evo and another i cant rember i stayed with the kumar runs great.

Seks718 said:
i would love to put android on my phone but i dont think is running all that great yet right ? or m i wrong , i think its to soon for me to do that flsh n i only started flashing not to long ago so far i tryed kumar , cell evo and another i cant rember i stayed with the kumar runs great.
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From what I understand it doesn't run on the US version, but I'm not caught up on my reading. I would love to be able to dual boot Wmo and Android but only because I'm a nerd and I love to mess with my phones.

crisisinthecity said:
From what I understand it doesn't run on the US version, but I'm not caught up on my reading. I would love to be able to dual boot Wmo and Android but only because I'm a nerd and I love to mess with my phones.
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what? it runs perfectly on our US version. im running a desire rom now. data works and everything. here is the link.http://gamesquare.co.uk/desire.html
to instal, extrat files to the ROOT of your sd card, then run the HARET program. i suggest you use 7-zip to extract the files.

[Q] Honeycomb on Hero?

can anybody port the 3.0 honeycomb version to our beloved Hero?
they did it to the G1/Magic, here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RKEHfOwnSI&feature=player_embedded
any hope??

If there is a port to G1/Magic I guess that is possible a port to Hero..

RubenFreitas said:
If there is a port to G1/Magic I guess that is possible a port to Hero..
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there is a port, in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=936874

hiato said:
there is a port, in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=936874
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is this port working on hero ?

I would say try it.

rdejager said:
I would say try it.
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yea, let us know
it's certainly buildable for the hero - but most hardware will be broken I would imagine.

Sitting here, playing with an ugly port of the sdk, the first images,most just to remove my pin code so I can get into the system

yes elelinux!
do you think when the sources get released you would have much chance of building a full (or near full) working honeycomb rom?

sjknight413 said:
yes elelinux!
do you think when the sources get released you would have much chance of building a full (or near full) working honeycomb rom?
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I think it's possible, but it will not be easy. Especially because Honeycomb is made for tablets... and not for our phones.

If it's built from SDK I bet that almost none of the hardware is working...

mljjlm said:
If it's built from SDK I bet that almost none of the hardware is working...
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That is correct, but strangely all the backlighting of the buttons etc worked out of the box, buttons it is easy to fix if you want.
Just a little test for fun nothing else, also saw that there was support for mdpi so theoretically it could be working on Hero with some manual intervention.
Another thing to, boot up without problems

elelinux said:
That is correct, but strangely all the backlighting of the buttons etc worked out of the box, buttons it is easy to fix if you want.
Just a little test for fun nothing else, also saw that there was support for mdpi so theoretically it could be working on Hero with some manual intervention.
Another thing to, boot up without problems
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Wow, please make a rom for us to play with please. I cant believe the G1 has one and we dont.

maybe we are are asking too much on our hero....
but hey if it'll work then we shall have it
SENT FROM MY HTC HERO running GINGERBREAD by elelinux

elliotn said:
maybe we are are asking too much on our hero....
but hey if it'll work then we shall have it
SENT FROM MY HTC HERO running GINGERBREAD by elelinux
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the G1 is already running it!!!

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the G1 is already running it!!!
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Yes but hardly anything is working! Even the Nexus one has no audio,wifi,bluetooth,calls!

Yes, it is foolish to ask for a ROM that's meant to run on tablets to be made for phones. But I never have never said and never will say no to a new ROM...
Sent from my Hero using XDA App

Yes it's going to run like ass and our screens won't do any good either.
But... as always, I'm eager to see what crazy stuff the ROM-people come up with.

but the sdk version includes some feature of switching from tablet to mobile mode by simply changing resolution... they won't have included it if it wasn't meant to be run on mobiles, and in 3.1, mobile (2.x) and tablet (3.0) development lines shall be joined (says wikipedia lol). moreover, lots of people out here said it would be impossible to run 2.2 and 2.3 on hero, and right now i'm looking at my rooted android 2.3 hero which is incredibly smooth and stable (way better than with stock os). so why shouldn't it be possible? ele just said even backlight of the buttons worked out of the box, which was not case in 2.x. i'm still believing in our developers (although i can't code well enough to support them ) and i'm sure they'll do some magic
greets, Summoner

Do you really use wikipedia for truths? Anyone can add to Wiki?!

no i don't... i just think it sounds possible... otherwise, there would be two future development lines which the consequence would be that there were VERY different features depending where more / the better devs work on lol^^
i didn't claim it was the absolute truth, otherwise i wouldn't have explicitly said it came from wiki ...
greets Summoner