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Taking the Sprint Hero to Verizon

I know that Sprint and Verizon both use CDMA for their phones, but does anyone know if I could take my Sprint Hero to Verizon's network and have working coverage?
My sister just bought a Verizon phone and she has full coverage, with 3G, but my Hero frequently says it is roaming.

you can try... probably not gunna be easy to get them to enter that MEID into their system.

sprint doesnt charge extra for roaming UNLESS like, 60% of your calls are roaming, or something like that. In that case, they will actually call you and say "You're roaming too much, you should go to another cell phone provider" (unless the reps in my store are lying to people, lol... I just started working for sprint a couple weeks ago. Lots of people ask about roaming here)

No, Sprint doesn't charge for roaming, but if 60% of your minutes are roaming for 3+ months, they WILL call to discuss terminating your contract. As for Verizon taking on your hero, no, they 99% most likely will not. It's a VERY rare occasion they let a non verizon device on their network.

would be plenty easy to just sell your hero for a decent price and go to Verizon and get the Droid..

boredmug said:
would be plenty easy to just sell your hero for a decent price and go to Verizon and get the Droid..
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eww the droid?! id rather have an Eris. at least its HTC and u can still hang on XDA
HTC 4-life!!!

lol.. i'm not a big motorola fan, but i do like the high resolution screen..

I thought VZW used slightly different bands for EvDO than Sprint? Or maybe I'm just imagining that since AT&T uses different bands... hm.
Seriously, if you have that much of a coverage problem, I'd talk to Sprint about cancelling without an ETF. May have to talk to their retentions department... someone who works for Sprint could shed more light.
(Personally I'd switch to T-Mobile over VZW. Cheaper, and you have an international-standard GSM device ;P)

Highly unlikely Verizon will activate it since it is not in their ESN database even though they use the same bands. Sprint won't activate Verizon phones either.

Moe2005 said:
Highly unlikely Verizon will activate it since it is not in their ESN database even though they use the same bands. Sprint won't activate Verizon phones either.
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yup, if the phone doesnt say sprint either on the phone or in the firmware they will not activate it on their network.

Is_907 said:
I thought VZW used slightly different bands for EvDO than Sprint? Or maybe I'm just imagining that since AT&T uses different bands... hm.
Seriously, if you have that much of a coverage problem, I'd talk to Sprint about cancelling without an ETF. May have to talk to their retentions department... someone who works for Sprint could shed more light.
(Personally I'd switch to T-Mobile over VZW. Cheaper, and you have an international-standard GSM device ;P)
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cheaper but they are way behind on there 3g network they're the reason i switched to VZW

brinox said:
yup, if the phone doesnt say sprint either on the phone or in the firmware they will not activate it on their network.
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I used to activate non-vzw phones all the time. However, smartphones may not be handled the same.

pretty sure they'll take it...they started their "any app, any device" initiative in 2008

they won't take it. they specifically said they will only activate a phone if it's either unbranded or verizon branded. sprint branding is a no go.

jamezelle said:
cheaper but they are way behind on there 3g network they're the reason i switched to VZW
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Around here they're pretty much the same. Also, I imagine where I am is on the short list for HSPA+ from TMo.
Anyway, this is a tangent heh.

I don't think you can swap phones between the CDMA sprint network and the Verizon CDMA network. Don't they use different parts of the spectrum?

giovannizero said:
I don't think you can swap phones between the CDMA sprint network and the Verizon CDMA network. Don't they use different parts of the spectrum?
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Not sure about the different parts of the spectrum, but you can definitely move a phone between Sprint and Verizon (from a technical point of view). But you'll have a hard time getting Sprint to activate a Verizon phone on their network. Not sure about a Sprint phone on a Verizon network, but they did make a big deal about their "any device" announcement in 2008, which said that they would allow you to use any CDMA phone.

1. while talk of changing esn is strickly verbotten(i believe?) if one were to find a htc hero that had somehow become corrupt and the meid had been changed to all 00000000000000000's it would be possible to fix with qxdm (the htc hero is essentially the sprint branded htc droid eris)
2. in order to activate phones on the vzw network generally one would *228 ota a cellphone, however in the ota process a vzw phones SPC is (almost)always 000000 while the hero from sprint has a SPC which is a randomly(?) generated number
3. a proper vzw PRL must be loaded to a phone in order to make calls on the vzw network
4. MDN/MIN SID must be properly programmed in order to make calls on the vzw network
5. at this point you will likely need the assistance of a nice vzw tech, as the phone will 611 to vzw, but will not make calls (afaik this is due to a-key authentication?)
if you get the right person at vzw, ask the right questions(why doesnt my vzw branded phone call?), and you have performed the other steps correctly you should have TALK and TXT within 5 min
note:
-you will still show you are roaming all the time (now ALL the time actually)
-afaik visual voicemail does not work
-if you want data expect to use WIFI or spend a good amount of time studying another VZW handsets various data settings and a good amount of time on VZW support(have not even tried this)
-neither i nor xda are responsible for what you do to your phones and as always anything you do is at your own risk!

Something wierd happended last night. I was trying to install that JIt Dalvik install by following the direction on the gumbo 1.5c. I also attempted to used the mapdroyd app Any event after a reboot I had and when it loaded no signal showed , a damaged SD card sign showed. When attempting to place a call it asked me to dial *228 nothing would result of it . Any event a reformat and install on the OS again fixed. All.Any one know of any reason why that would of happened. I was truly experimenting out of curiosity

I can, and its been done
I would like everyone to know I just spent the last 3 days figuring ALL of this out.
As my understanding is, you can change esn as long as you are and "authorized user" and your not stealing anything, therefore if I have two phones I paid for, and I have service with Verizon (which makes me and authorized user as per their TOS.)
then its not illegal. Anyways, for the sake of education it is possible.
I've swapped out my esn/meid. Transferred all my info via qxdm service programming. uploaded a verizon prl. rooted. and now im looking for a suitable Verizon based rom for the hero... I'm attempting to put a stock 2.1 eris rom on right now. (btw the phone texted and called just fine, I just want to have a complete verizon based rom for the finishing touches)

Unlocking question- so sick of ATT

I really want to get one of these G2 phones. Att's phones are horrible and their service is going down hill as well.
THe only problem is their coverage in my area is far superior to TMO.
When the G2 is able to be unlocked how would popping a prepaid sim card in the G2 work?
Would the G2 all of a sudden be able to use all of the ATT network with only limitation being edge only? Or would I have to configure the phone to use ATTs data and or voice?
I'd like to just tape the pre-paid sim to the inside battery case and pop it in when needed, but if it's time consuming to make the swap I might reconsider.

I don't think the G2 supports AT&T's 3G bands, so while it will work you won't have any fast data. Why not just get an iPhone4? Granted it has iOS, but the hardware is better than anything Android. Having said that I still bought a G2 because I hate AT&T.

krayshunist said:
I don't think the G2 supports AT&T's 3G bands, so while it will work you won't have any fast data. Why not just get an iPhone4? Granted it has iOS, but the hardware is better than anything Android. Having said that I still bought a G2 because I hate AT&T.
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Thanks. I'm aware that I won't have 3G- that's not a problem since I'll only use the ATT sim card when I leave the city- not much.
That's why I ask if it's as simple as popping in the ATT sim card and being able to get SMS/MMS/Data etc without having to change a bunch of settings?
I'd just forward my TMO number to the ATT sim.

pdxrealtor said:
I'd just forward my TMO number to the ATT sim.
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By this, I take it you mean to pay for 2 accounts? The only way you will have a TMo number is if you have service with them.
As for the settings, you could probably do it with an ATT sim if the radio bands overlap. As others have mentioned, you'll be limited to edge speeds at best, so it's probably a real bad idea.
Honestly, AT&T's network is pretty bad these days. I wouldn't go as far as saying it's better than Tmo.

HamNCheese said:
By this, I take it you mean to pay for 2 accounts? The only way you will have a TMo number is if you have service with them.
As for the settings, you could probably do it with an ATT sim if the radio bands overlap. As others have mentioned, you'll be limited to edge speeds at best, so it's probably a real bad idea.
Honestly, AT&T's network is pretty bad these days. I wouldn't go as far as saying it's better than Tmo.
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When I leave town i hit edge speeds on ATT anyways so what's the diff??
I would have a primary TMO line and a pre-paid ATT sim with access to data for when I hit the few spots that TMO doesn't cover.
I simply want to know if you have to mess with data settings to get data while switching between phones.

Once you swap SIM cards the phone should pick up the network automatically, but is it really worth it to swap sim cards (which includes shutting the phone down, removing battery, replacing card, putting battery back in, starting up phone, as I'm sure you know) just to get service out in the middle of nowhere? I mean I understand the need to be always connected, but is it really worth it?

No you don't have to do any switching. Just initial setup. You have to acquire an unlock code from t-mobile so your ATT sim works on it. Once you do that you can do voice calls. You need to add the APN for ATT in the network settings.
The APN which stands for Access Point Name is basically a collection of settings and variables to allow the phone to connect to the data network.
Since the G2 will already have the T-Mobile settings you just need to get the settings for ATT from ATT, unless you google it.
Hope i helped.

elmejor183 said:
No you don't have to do any switching.
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Just so nobody gets confused. Of course you have to switch the sim card, but apart from that nothing else.

LOOK AT THE SIGNATURE LINE! YA BABY!
I plan on using the att card when I know ill be in a remote area without TMO voice or data for extended periods. Long drive, the beach, the mountain, camping etc. I wouldnt switch in a situation that only warranted the need to do a quick switch.
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elmejor183 said:
No you don't have to do any switching. Just initial setup. You have to acquire an unlock code from t-mobile so your ATT sim works on it. Once you do that you can do voice calls. You need to add the APN for ATT in the network settings.
The APN which stands for Access Point Name is basically a collection of settings and variables to allow the phone to connect to the data network.
Since the G2 will already have the T-Mobile settings you just need to get the settings for ATT from ATT, unless you google it.
Hope i helped.
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Must have missed your post. Yes you answered my question. Thanks!
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Another question on this issue-
When I know I'll be out of TMO range for day or whatever and I forward my TMO number to my prepaid ATT sim card will txt/mms sent to the TMO number forward over to the ATT number??

If anyone needs a G2 unlocked. Hit me up I can get it done for you.
Thanks

Unlock me!

rhcp0112345 said:
If anyone needs a G2 unlocked. Hit me up I can get it done for you.
Thanks
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Already got mine unlock, but the cell won't pick up or register to any network something really wrong with this phone. Now I can't use my phone even with T-Mo sim. A lot of user oversea suffer from this issue, Bewarn.

bluemoko said:
Already got mine unlock, but the cell won't pick up or register to any network something really wrong with this phone. Now I can't use my phone even with T-Mo sim. A lot of user oversea suffer from this issue, Bewarn.
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Sounds like BS. How did you even unlock it? You may have had someone hack it up or bought it unlocked.

rhcp0112345 said:
If anyone needs a G2 unlocked. Hit me up I can get it done for you.
Thanks
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FYI- just like I pm'd you-
I just called T-MOBLIE and they are sending an unlock code within 24 hours.
Why would anyone pay 40.00? I guess you could call it the penalty fee for not using a search button. LOL

[Q] Unlock driod 2 for sprint????

hey just wondering if i could prehaphs unlock or reflash a droid 2 for sprint? i have an evo 4g getting board.... and kinda want a droid with a board thanks for your help

Nismo-b15 said:
hey just wondering if i could prehaphs unlock or reflash a droid 2 for sprint? i have an evo 4g getting board.... and kinda want a droid with a board thanks for your help
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Not sure you can do that since Verizon and Sprint have different types of networks. Maybe a Droid 2 Global?

Verizon and Sprint actually do have the same type of network (they both use CDMA), but it would be next to impossible to get a phone from one network activated on the other. Unfortunately, it isn't like the SIM cards, where you can just unlock the phone and put in another carrier's SIM. From what I hear, Verizon won't activate an ESN (device identifier) that isn't from a device they have sold.
Not sure about Sprint, but I haven't heard of anyone successfully doing it in a LONG time.

actually, they dont operate on different network types. sprint and verizon both definitely run on CDMA, and their phones can technically function on either network. the problem is that the IMEI's for each network are only valid on their respective network. If your IMEI is not on the particular network then it will not activate on that network.
the general rule of thumb with sprint and verizon phones: if it doesnt have the corresponding carrier branding on the phone in some fashion, then it will not activate on that particular network.
Also, carrier reps for both of these carriers will not add in your IMEI no matter how much money you say you will throw at them.

Phoible said:
Verizon and Sprint actually do have the same type of network (they both use CDMA), but it would be next to impossible to get a phone from one network activated on the other. Unfortunately, it isn't like the SIM cards, where you can just unlock the phone and put in another carrier's SIM. From what I hear, Verizon won't activate an ESN (device identifier) that isn't from a device they have sold.
Not sure about Sprint, but I haven't heard of anyone successfully doing it in a LONG time.
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My apologies for being misinformed.

I use to have a BB storm and once you "unlocked" it you could use it on other networks. I seem to recall a lively discussion on crackberry.com regarding which networks with which it would work. Now perhaps that's because the storm had CDMA/GSM capabilities, but I'm not sure.

I had a Storm as well. When you unlocked it, you could get it to work on AT&T and T-Mobile, because it was a global phone with a SIM card. You couldn't get 3G on any of the US Carriers, since the 3G frequencies are different in the US and in the rest of the world (so the data would be confined to slow 2G rates).
I did see a rumor recently that T-Mobile eventually did something to lock US Storms out of their networks.
http://crackberry.com/t-mobile-killing-service-unlocked-storm-devices
If you get the Droid 2 Global, you should be able to unlock it and run it on AT&T or T-Mobile with a SIM card. You most likely won't be able to get 3G, though. Probably not worth it.
Hopefully, when Verizon switches to LTE some time in the next year, the phones will be compatible across carriers. From what I understand, Verizon, T-Mobile, and AT&T are all switching to LTE. It sounds like Sprint is investigating, and my guess is that they will go that direction (ditching WiMax in the long-term). However, I wouldn't put it past the carriers to lock other US devices out of their networks.
Regardless, this won't help much with getting a device to run on Sprint. I'm sure that there will be some more cool Android Devices coming out for Sprint in the future.

A colleague of mine recently activated a DROID X on Sprint, but it was a hassle all around.
Programming the phone through QPST was annoying but doable, it was getting the phone's ESN added to the Sprint database that was a real hassle.
Eventually, my colleague had to work with somebody in Overland Park, KS. (Sprint's HQ) to get it done. After 11 phone calls to Sprint Customer Service (which were totally clueless), he finally sent a FedEx to Steve Elfman's office (President Network Operations) before anybody at Sprint was willing to even consider the addition. A few days after the Fedex was received, somebody from Mr. Elfman's office called my colleague back and worked with him to accomplish the addition.
After all is said and done, my colleague is happy that his DROID X is now on Sprint, but he has said a few times now that it really was not worth the effort that he had to put into it to get it accomplished.
Dan

dan1431 said:
A colleague of mine recently activated a DROID X on Sprint, but it was a hassle all around.
Programming the phone through QPST was annoying but doable, it was getting the phone's ESN added to the Sprint database that was a real hassle.
Eventually, my colleague had to work with somebody in Overland Park, KS. (Sprint's HQ) to get it done. After 11 phone calls to Sprint Customer Service (which were totally clueless), he finally sent a FedEx to Steve Elfman's office (President Network Operations) before anybody at Sprint was willing to even consider the addition. A few days after the Fedex was received, somebody from Mr. Elfman's office called my colleague back and worked with him to accomplish the addition.
After all is said and done, my colleague is happy that his DROID X is now on Sprint, but he has said a few times now that it really was not worth the effort that he had to put into it to get it accomplished.
Dan
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Hmm, interesting that it can be done though!

Flash Evo to Verizon?

I apologize if this has been covered, I didn't find anything in a quick search. A buddy was asking about flashing his Evo to Verizon. I saw a few youtube videos showing results but haven't found a process.
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Sim unlock? You could call Verizon customer care or a store and ask if nobody on here knows, I assume it would work but have never heard of anyone doing it.

I dont think so.
You can have your evo run off of verizon's towers with a prl hack
swyped from my cyanogenized and gingerbreaded EVO

There's no legal way to do it.
You would have to fake your esn number and such.

phatmanxxl said:
Sim unlock? You could call Verizon customer care or a store and ask if nobody on here knows, I assume it would work but have never heard of anyone doing it.
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Both vzw and sprint use CDMA... no simcards involved.
To OP: No, verizon requires the ESN to be already present on their database (same way as sprint) before activating the device.

The process is likely the same as it is to get the evo to work on boost, cricket, or other cdma providers.
I haven't done this personally, nor do I know anyone who has, but in theory, it seems like it should.

gpz1100 said:
The process is likely the same as it is to get the evo to work on boost, cricket, or other cdma providers.
I haven't done this personally, nor do I know anyone who has, but in theory, it seems like it should.
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Boost is owned by Sprint so it makes some sense that you could cross those phones.
Not sure about cricket but it's my guess that they don't lock down their esns.
The only way I've ever heard of using a Sprint/Verizon phone on either network is with esn spoofing and it's not legal, at all.

Until carriers allow other phones ont heir networks it's a no-go. Except as said above by changing ESN (illegal) or having one hell of an inside connection. The ESN would have to be added to their database of accepted devices. Like I said...a hell of an inside connection would be needed.

You said it bro! Spoof was the word I was looking for. Will require a donor phone though on the network you want to use it on.

KB112 said:
Until carriers allow other phones ont heir networks it's a no-go. Except as said above by changing ESN (illegal) or having one hell of an inside connection. The ESN would have to be added to their database of accepted devices. Like I said...a hell of an inside connection would be needed.
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It's not illegal to change your ESN as long as you are paying for the fees. The legality comes in when you try to clone ESN in order to avoid fees.
But even if OP were to clone the ESN, the frequency's don't really match and would have problems working

And if this was remotely feasible, I'd have a Verizon iPhone 4 on Sprint right now.

Hrshycro said:
And if this was remotely feasible, I'd have a Verizon iPhone 4 on Sprint right now.
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Your a Joke

iitreatedii said:
Your a Joke
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You're the one with an iPad 2 and always talking about it!

And we have once again proven that we can, AND WILL, turn any thread into an argument/personal attack within the first page of the thread. Good job, guys! :thmsup:

tejasrichard said:
And we have once again proven that we can, AND WILL, turn any thread into an argument/personal attack within the first page of the thread. Good job, guys! :thmsup:
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Its kinda the culture of XDA.
And to be completely honest its encouraged by the rules, or lack there of.

The EVO Flashed to Verizon

I'm more than likely posting this in the wrong section but it regards to an EVO so I apologize in advance....
Would it be possible to flash a Sprint EVO onto verizons network I want the EVO I looked into the thunderbolt and I think its nothing but garbage just my opinion, I had it for 10 days and it was so bad I went and returned it and went back to my incredible since I don't have 4g in North Dakota it would be an issue I got my MSL code from Verizon. I've seen the EVO on boost and pageplus unfortunately I only have IDEN coverage for boost no cdma or I would just go that route. So would this be possible??? I know there are sites claiming they have the files that will make it work but I'd rather not pay for something that might not work. I know what your thinking why not just switch to Sprint well we don't have coverage here. So my choices are Verizon, AT&T, & Nextel. Nextel is out of the question for the fact I believe its still completely IDEN which means not smartphones except for a blackberry and there is no way I will switch to a blackberry I had a hard time switching from winmo 6.5 to android.
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Bobby.O said:
I'm more than likely posting this in the wrong section but it regards to an EVO so I apologize in advance....
Would it be possible to flash a Sprint EVO onto verizons network I want the EVO I looked into the thunderbolt and I think its nothing but garbage just my opinion, I had it for 10 days and it was so bad I went and returned it and went back to my incredible since I don't have 4g in North Dakota it would be an issue I got my MSL code from Verizon. I've seen the EVO on boost and pageplus unfortunately I only have IDEN coverage for boost no cdma or I would just go that route. So would this be possible??? I know there are sites claiming they have the files that will make it work but I'd rather not pay for something that might not work. I know what your thinking why not just switch to Sprint well we don't have coverage here. So my choices are Verizon, AT&T, & Nextel. Nextel is out of the question for the fact I believe its still completely IDEN which means not smartphones except for a blackberry and there is no way I will switch to a blackberry I had a hard time switching from winmo 6.5 to android.
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Not legally due to esn locks. Sorry.

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Not legally due to esn locks. Sorry.
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Yuppers... Frowney face indeed

Ugh... That's what I came across in my six hours of searching, but didn't they pass a law in 2006 that made it legal to switch carriers and flash it, since its your device you paid for it you should be able to do with it as you please within reason of course, also would it make a difference if the esn/meid is clean?
I mentioned pageplus in my op its a prepaid company owned by (Verizon) the evil V as I call it lol I know they got it boost which is as we all know is a prepaid company of Sprint which is seeming more and more like the best of the "big 4" soon to be the "big 3"
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Bobby.O said:
Ugh... That's what I came across in my six hours of searching, but didn't they pass a law in 2006 that made it legal to switch carriers and flash it, since its your device you paid for it you should be able to do with it as you please within reason of course, also would it make a difference if the esn/meid is clean?
I mentioned pageplus in my op its a prepaid company owned by (Verizon) the evil V as I call it lol I know they got it boost which is as we all know is a prepaid company of Sprint which is seeming more and more like the best of the "big 4" soon to be the "big 3"
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It is legal to do so, but the carrier has to approve the device and one big thing that won't be approved is the Sprint logo on the front of the device. Also I could be wrong, but for basic network coverage not counting Wimax since Verizon doesn't use Wimax, I believe Sprint and Verizon use different frequencies but I could be wrong.

There was a time when Sprint announced that they will activate any Verizon phone on their network. I can't remember if Verizon sued them, or if Sprint backed out. It was a very huge deal.
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It IS possible. Very much so. I'm not sure if i can speak on this, but if u do your research u should find the info u need. Done by yours truely
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vbetts said:
It is legal to do so, but the carrier has to approve the device and one big thing that won't be approved is the Sprint logo on the front of the device. Also I could be wrong, but for basic network coverage not counting Wimax since Verizon doesn't use Wimax, I believe Sprint and Verizon use different frequencies but I could be wrong.
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Yep, Verizon uses 700 mhz and Sprint uses 2.5 I believe.

Cloyd said:
Yep, Verizon uses 700 mhz and Sprint uses 2.5 I believe.
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That's for 4g. I believe.
Gimme a couple a days to come up with a new sig that is cool.

Cloyd said:
Yep, Verizon uses 700 mhz and Sprint uses 2.5 I believe.
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that's for their "4G", not the CDMA 1x/EvDO spectrum

Ah, that's true, I totally blanked on the fact that he doesn't have 4g coverage anyway and that issue isn't on the table

Thanks for all the input guys, maybe I can find a friend of mine that happens to have an EVO they would be willing to let me borrow to try this out on, and update prl and everything else and see if I can get to VZW ota programming prompt and if I can get that far, I should be close to in the clear see if I goes through completely or somehow rewrite the esn/meid's which probably isn't legal but I'm sure can be done lol, and browsing around early this morning I found out I can get page plus coverage haha but I refuse to give up my unlimited data, I know there is a way to flash it to them though.. but thank you again for all the input
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It's possible. I'm on Verizon PRL right now as we speak. I dial *2 and I get Verizon customer service
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hayted_wun said:
It's possible. I'm on Verizon PRL right now as we speak. I dial *2 and I get Verizon customer service
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Yeah but that's data roaming, little different.

It's possible just a few things you need:
1) Verizon has to approve it for their network
2) You would need your number AND your MIN as well as your cellular email address: it would be something like your10digit [email protected] verizon has for .com
3)Your MSL so you can program the phone for verizon (if you're rooted, MSL Reader from the Market will get that for you)
4)Verizon PRL
My evo is programed for cricket. AND the Evo can be programmed for boost. I went with cricket because there is no grey area there. Just program my phone for cricket, call them up and have them add my Evo's ESN.
Cricket was more than willing to give me the information I needed (MIN is the only thing I needed from them) and I got someone (who i guess works for cricket, one of those cricket forums) to add my ESN to my account. (you don't even have to change the radios, just change the PRL)
I look at it like this, Verizon takes a loss on every phone sold. Well every postpaid carrier does. So I would think they would jump at the chance for you to save them some money while spending money with them in the process.

How would I get them to accept the esn and accept the EVO for their service? I'm on a prepaid account now so I would be paying retail anyway...
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Bobby.O said:
How would I get them to accept the esn and accept the EVO for their service? I'm on a prepaid account now so I would be paying retail anyway...
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They won't.

Maybe tell them its their ****ty thunderbolt until they push it through????
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Bobby.O said:
Maybe tell them its their ****ty thunderbolt until they push it through????
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The DEC number clearly identifies what phone it is.

Damn I just can't win can I???
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