Hard Reset Procedure only produces a Soft Reset? - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

For some reason, whenever I try to do a hard reset, my tytn only does a soft reset.
That is, after pressing and holding the Left SOFT KEY and Right SOFT KEY, and at the same time, using the stylus to press the RESET button at the bottom of my tytn, I was NOT presented with a menu saying 'press R to reset, X to exit'. Instead, my tytn just reboots just as if I only pressed the RESET button alone.
Device details:
Hermes 200
IPL-1.04
SPL-2.10.Olipro
Flashed ROMs:
Stock ATT 6.1
FCW's 6.5 Stock-like ROM (D 3.62 by Josh)
I'm baffled at why there's no reaction to the hard reset. My searches not only did not yield any threads of issue resolution, but it also didn't yield any people having this similar problem.
As I purchased the phone off the black-market several years ago, I suspect that it could be because of some poor modified low-level firmware that was flashed before I bought it.
Any thoughts?
Is there anyway to do a hard reset via software, and not through the normal hard reset procedure? Or is there firmware that I can flash that contains the hard reset functionality?
Many thanks in advance!

assuming both your softkeys are working yes? To hard reset via software, run 'clear storage' from system settings.

Many thanks Macelius. Clear Storage did just the trick.
Additionally, since you brought it up, I think that my Left SOFT KEY may be starting to fail. It works roughly 1 out of 4 presses, so I thought it still worked but was not responsive because of laggy software.
Though of the 5-6 times I tried to Hard Reset, I guess the Left SOFT KEY didn't work once.
Thanks again Macelius. Good stuff.

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registry values and hard resets

can anyone tell me if the registry is reset when a hard reset is performed? for a while my phone has been running incredibly slow and no number of hard resets has fixed it
when you hard reset, it put everything back to how it was!
hmm
it doesn't seem to be doing that, i installed zagat to go on my wizard the other week as did a couple of people i know, it's made all of the devices crash constantly and no number of hard resets are fixing it
How are you "hard reseting"? If by using the stylus in the reset hole then that's a soft reset. A hard reset is performed by holding Record and Camera buttons and reseting with the stylus, then pressing the Send button when instructed to format. You can also "Clear Storage" from Settings\System. You will lose all settings and have to start all over.
i've been doing a true hard reset. i've found the issue now, the software that was causing the problem seems to install something or change the registry settings when connected to the pc even if you don't install the software itself.
i'd recommend to everyone to avoid zagat to go like the plague
Zagat OK
I've been using Zagat for six months without trouble. I have it installed on the miniSD and have about 30 cities. Zagat isn't nearly as useful as Vindigo, but Zagat operates fine. It doesn't have a program running on my PC so there is no mechanism by which the PC could be changing the registry of my MDA through activesync.

a question about soft reset

I think everyone knows the differences between hard and soft reset but my question today is different from what usually have been asked here:
A) performing a soft reset (by pushing the side small reset button with the stylus) or
B) turing off the wizzy ( by using the top button) and then turining it on again has any difference?
is it A) truncate any process, file, reg and therefore its not clean procedure ?
by performing several times A) it has any consequences ?
the question can be silly but sometimes i'm silly
:roll:
They both do the same thing. The only difference is one asks you "are you sure" 1st and the other one just does it :lol:
I don't think there are any consequences in performing a soft reset several times in a row; although I don't see why anyone would want to do that unless they like their boot screen 8)
thanks
my question is because a soft reset without question i was think can cut some process suddenly bypassing some internal procedure...
but maybe im thinking too much
just trying to know better my Wizard
Actually there is a difference. Any updates you have recently done to the registry will be lost of you reset with your stylus. If you reset with the "off button" the changes will be flushed to disk before shutdown.
I have also lost recently received SMS messages when I reset with my stylus. This has never happened when I reset with the "off button" so I assume the same "disk buffer flushing" is the cause of this as well.
And d yes, I reset a lot but not because I like my boot screen

Do I need to hard reset my xv6800 ?

I just installed the BatteryStatus today plug in and it was working fine until i turned on the option to show the CPU speed. Then it just hung up. Now when I soft-reset it hangs when loading the today screen. Some of the plugins load but it hangs before BatteryStatus loads, probably while loading it. Any way I can get to my system to change that setting? I would prefer to not do a hard reset. But if I do, how do I do a hard reset?
Sounds like a hard reset to me....Hold down the two keys with the dot's on them next to your phone buttons and hit the reset button while pressing the reset switch and hold them down for a second or two longer. If you have a Memory card in on the 6800 I hear you may want to take it out if you don't want it cleared as well...good luck.
hmmm I went to do a hard reset... saw on another site that you press all the buttons and press reset. I pressed all the side buttons OK, Voice, On, Comm, Camera and hit the reset.
It went to a screen with red, green and blue (i think) bars and said USB at the bottom. Then I unplugged it from the USB and it switched to say serial. And it just stayed there. I didn't know what to do so I just soft reset it at that point. It then booted up and was working fine. Looks like the changes I made since the last soft reset had been cleared (I think) and it was now working fine and all my stuff was still on my phone (it doesnt look like it did a hard reset).
Was that not a hard reset that I did? or was it something else?
Sounds like you entered bootloader mode. I'm surrprised that a SOFT RESET took you back.......
You just did a Soft Reset from Bootloader mode, which to my knowledge is exactly the same as a regular Soft Reset.
A Hard Reset wil completely reset your device to original ROM status and wipe out all of your info/contacts/mail... ect.
If the Soft Reset fixed the problem then good deal.
I installed same app, had same problem and did hard reset. My problem was getting phone service working again. About 15 min. with VZW connection tech, entered a 26 digit number authentication key through EPST.exe system program to get my phone service back.
I also had the same problem as well. With a battery status deal like what your describing. All i did was soft reset a **** load of times and plug in my pw real fast and it came back. I have a scrolling task now that display all of it with 0 problems. I have it if you want it. Pm me your email.
Weird, I had tried a soft reset a few times and it kept coming back with the same thing, hanging halfway through loading the today screen. Maybe I just got lucky that time.
try this, i like alot with 0 problems

phone won't hard reset!

Hi,
I have tried and tried to do a hard reset but the phone only soft resets.
i press and hold both soft keys under the screen (the "-" key above the Q and the "-" key above the P) and then i poke the reset button on the side of the phone. It will only soft reset. I've tried this when the phone was turned on and turned off.
I've even tried pressing the left soft key first and then the right, I've reversed the order . . .
Nothing I try will let me do a hard reset!
Any ideas?
try
No doubt you're doing it, but you have to push both soft keys at the same time as when you push in the stylus. Push both keys extremely hard with your right hand, and enter the stylus with the other.
Otherwise you could just try flashing one of DCD's rom's. That ought to get it to the hard reset status you want anyway right?
hey scotcha12345,
I tried pushing both keys at the same time too (then poked the reset). But it still won't hard reset.
I would like to do a hard reset because I'm sending this phone back to vzw.
I just want to clear the memory of any personal stuff.
I did the Settings>System>Clear Storage thing but I want to be REALLY sure that everything is gone and a hard reset seems like my best bet. (But, of course, the phone won't hard reset.)
Since it does not look like I'll be able to hard reset can anyone confirm that the Clear Storage thing does what a hard reset would do at least in terms of clearing anything personal and getting rid of programs that vzw might not like? (It has the stock ROM so I'm good there.) From what I can tell, I should be ok with Clear Storage but I would still rather do the hard reset.
and just to be clear, I've tried pushing all three (both soft keys and reset button with stylus) at the same time, too.
hard reset
2 other suggestions:
1st:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Titan
Scroll down to: Downgrading -- Official Carrier ROMs & associated radios with flashing guides
You could reflash with that. It's the original ROM and radio, so there should be no problem, thus avoiding any warranty deal breaking. (fairly quick and easy)
2nd
I'm pretty sure in the past I've seen a program that has a button that you can just push that does a Hard Reset...looking for it.
I've never done the Clear Storage, so I'm no help there.
Have you tried using the soft keys on the face of the phone? The ones above the windows and ok buttons. I've only used these and never the ones on the keyboard.
Ivan
try doing it by pressing the two softkeys obave the send and end buttons and then prees the reset button with the stylus BUT KEEP PRESSING THE TWO SOFT KEYS, DON'T RELEASE THEM UNTIL YOU SEE THE HARD RESET SCREEN...
btonetbone & nelsongruebr
Thanks, that did the trick.
(Sorry for the long response time. I was in a coma for the last 6 months.)
to answer your earlier question about the "clear storage" method... yeah, that does the same hard reset as when you press the two softkeys (on face of phone) + reset button.
The "clear storage" is the only method for the xv6900 users to hardreset since they don't have softkeys.
Ive hardreset both ways on my xv6800 with the same result.

Dead Hermes 100, Dopod 838, How did it happen??

I have this weird phone, I should say BRICK. My phone stopped working this morning after I cleaned the screen with a piece of cloth....the phone was in standby mode, when I did this.
Here is the story so far:
I was having problems with the hardware buttons, (messaging, internet explorer, the call and hang up buttons) the ones that everyone is been having problems with; so i decided to dismantling the unit following the steps shown on a Japanese website, basically by just looking at which screws to remove. By doing this all buttons functionality come back to normal so I had I fully working phone for about 3 days.
Now, all of a sudden the phone stopped working and refuses to go pass the "loading" message on the screen.
I decided to carefully dismantling the unit again, (I am now and expert in dismantlig dopos) but the problem persist.
I have also tried a hard-reset by pressing and holding the power button, the right/left soft keys and the reset buttong located in the lower part of the phone.....and still NOTHING.....
The phone was running Windows 6.1 (the stable version)....and now I am PHONE LESS...This is just incredible.....
Any help would be much appreciated....
If you are getting a message on screen saying "loading", taht does not go away, then your problem is not hardware but software.
The thing to try here is a full Hard Reset. (not a soft reset, have you tried this?)
Mike
Is this a Full Hard reset??
I have also tried a hard-reset by pressing and holding the power button, the right/left soft keys and the reset buttong located in the lower part of the phone.....and still NOTHING.....
Hard reset:
Press and hold the Left SOFT KEY and Right SOFT KEY, and at the same time, use the stylus to press the RESET button at the bottom of your device. You will be presented with a menu saying 'press R to reset, X to exit', if you press R Your device will be set back to factory default settings.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Resets
I have done the hard reset, however the Soft keys do not work, hence I dont get a menu saying 'press R to reset, X to exit'...so it basically continues directly to CRC's ROM loading message...just as before...and it gets stuck there......
I tried the other option,....Bootloader mode: Hold side OK and POWER buttons together and reset with stylus, and this options does work, but there is no mesagge only a screen with 4 color bands, red, green, blue and white...and nothing else.
If you don't get the message to reset yor phone then you didn't hard reset.
Oh well....thats what i suspected....now the problem is since the soft keys dont work, then I cant do a hard reset....and the more i try the battery gets and will eventually run flat, (since the phone is not recharging either) in another words my dear dopod is slowly dying.....
Well the reason it's probably not booting up and the fact the keys don't work are likely the same problem. One of the flexcable connectors is most likely not seating in fully. I'd dismantle and take great care with all of them. Make certain of the central one - the one with the tape on it.
Mike
Exactly .....but i dont really know why these phones have this problem....as I said before I did clean up the contacts about a week ago and presto...everything started working fine again, but after 24 hours the buttons started playing up again....so it is impossible that things will change in such a short time......
anyway coming back to my current problem, I tried and tried to hard-reset the unit and this time I pulled the keyboard out and pressed hard on the softkeys and after a while it did work .....so I managed to hard reset the phone.....it only had 14% left in the batterry.....lucky me!!!!.....so I went home and started carefully adding all the extra bits needed, and guess what???? right in the last update the phone, again, did lock up........Luckily now I have a degree in dismantling dopos....anyone would like to hire me???? and I am an expert in hard-resetting dopos with actitude.......
I am happy now with my resurrected doppo but I am still a bit weiry about the soft keys not working......
FINALLY ......A big thanks to you guys for your help and comments.....

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