a question about soft reset - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General

I think everyone knows the differences between hard and soft reset but my question today is different from what usually have been asked here:
A) performing a soft reset (by pushing the side small reset button with the stylus) or
B) turing off the wizzy ( by using the top button) and then turining it on again has any difference?
is it A) truncate any process, file, reg and therefore its not clean procedure ?
by performing several times A) it has any consequences ?
the question can be silly but sometimes i'm silly
:roll:

They both do the same thing. The only difference is one asks you "are you sure" 1st and the other one just does it :lol:
I don't think there are any consequences in performing a soft reset several times in a row; although I don't see why anyone would want to do that unless they like their boot screen 8)

thanks
my question is because a soft reset without question i was think can cut some process suddenly bypassing some internal procedure...
but maybe im thinking too much
just trying to know better my Wizard

Actually there is a difference. Any updates you have recently done to the registry will be lost of you reset with your stylus. If you reset with the "off button" the changes will be flushed to disk before shutdown.
I have also lost recently received SMS messages when I reset with my stylus. This has never happened when I reset with the "off button" so I assume the same "disk buffer flushing" is the cause of this as well.
And d yes, I reset a lot but not because I like my boot screen

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HARD RESET AND/OR CLEANUP QUESTION

Hi everybody,
I have been trying out various softwares (install/uninstall) on Jasjar and was planning to do a hard reset to go back to original factory settings (like a format and complete reinstall WinXP on my desktop PC) and only install the selected few I liked and need.
Reading these threads for hours gave me the hint the hard reset is not going to do that for me. I am still a little confused; would somebody please describe what HR is on a Jasjar?
If not a HR is what I am looking for, how should I clean up all the tracks of junk (former programs that I deleted or tried to delete, but got an error message).
(Please, be easy on me and detailed, I am not a tech geek, have not even gone into registry yet…)
Thank you for your help!
IZ
A Hard Reset will do exactly what you want. As long as you haven't been playing silly buggers creating your own ext.rom.. -- given that you haven't touched the registry yet, I doubt you have..
Hold down all the required buttons, and press the Reset button at the back, wait 20 mins for it to rebuild itself, and you'll have a nice fresh Jasjar ready to go.
The only thing you may be confusing it with is a Soft Reset, and that's literally like turning your PC off. Nothing is gone, no information lost, it just reboots it.

My MDA COMPACT II is giving me restart problems.

It hangs sometimes and when i soft rest, it doesnt reset... if i hard reset it it doesnt reset... please advice on how to solve this problem.
Confused.
You mean you soft reset but it doens't reset? Or it hanged after the reset (e.g. while loading WM5).
And you tried hardreset? The manual for the hardreset procedure may not be good (they've copied over from the Magician). On your hardreset, did you see the device saying something like.. Press send to format the memory and Formating FAT something like that? Just to make sure you really hard reset it.
i think i'm having a similar issue. in the last 3 days my jam hangs on soft-reset in the picture of the initial display screen, and the only way to bring it back to life is to hard-reset, which on the move can be a pita.
im building a cab for all the settings and these hard-resets push me to continue developing it, but in the end it's becoming annoying. i've upgraded recently to taxist rom and it's stable since 2 months, but then i had to flash it again and since then it sux

registry values and hard resets

can anyone tell me if the registry is reset when a hard reset is performed? for a while my phone has been running incredibly slow and no number of hard resets has fixed it
when you hard reset, it put everything back to how it was!
hmm
it doesn't seem to be doing that, i installed zagat to go on my wizard the other week as did a couple of people i know, it's made all of the devices crash constantly and no number of hard resets are fixing it
How are you "hard reseting"? If by using the stylus in the reset hole then that's a soft reset. A hard reset is performed by holding Record and Camera buttons and reseting with the stylus, then pressing the Send button when instructed to format. You can also "Clear Storage" from Settings\System. You will lose all settings and have to start all over.
i've been doing a true hard reset. i've found the issue now, the software that was causing the problem seems to install something or change the registry settings when connected to the pc even if you don't install the software itself.
i'd recommend to everyone to avoid zagat to go like the plague
Zagat OK
I've been using Zagat for six months without trouble. I have it installed on the miniSD and have about 30 cities. Zagat isn't nearly as useful as Vindigo, but Zagat operates fine. It doesn't have a program running on my PC so there is no mechanism by which the PC could be changing the registry of my MDA through activesync.

phone won't hard reset!

Hi,
I have tried and tried to do a hard reset but the phone only soft resets.
i press and hold both soft keys under the screen (the "-" key above the Q and the "-" key above the P) and then i poke the reset button on the side of the phone. It will only soft reset. I've tried this when the phone was turned on and turned off.
I've even tried pressing the left soft key first and then the right, I've reversed the order . . .
Nothing I try will let me do a hard reset!
Any ideas?
try
No doubt you're doing it, but you have to push both soft keys at the same time as when you push in the stylus. Push both keys extremely hard with your right hand, and enter the stylus with the other.
Otherwise you could just try flashing one of DCD's rom's. That ought to get it to the hard reset status you want anyway right?
hey scotcha12345,
I tried pushing both keys at the same time too (then poked the reset). But it still won't hard reset.
I would like to do a hard reset because I'm sending this phone back to vzw.
I just want to clear the memory of any personal stuff.
I did the Settings>System>Clear Storage thing but I want to be REALLY sure that everything is gone and a hard reset seems like my best bet. (But, of course, the phone won't hard reset.)
Since it does not look like I'll be able to hard reset can anyone confirm that the Clear Storage thing does what a hard reset would do at least in terms of clearing anything personal and getting rid of programs that vzw might not like? (It has the stock ROM so I'm good there.) From what I can tell, I should be ok with Clear Storage but I would still rather do the hard reset.
and just to be clear, I've tried pushing all three (both soft keys and reset button with stylus) at the same time, too.
hard reset
2 other suggestions:
1st:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Titan
Scroll down to: Downgrading -- Official Carrier ROMs & associated radios with flashing guides
You could reflash with that. It's the original ROM and radio, so there should be no problem, thus avoiding any warranty deal breaking. (fairly quick and easy)
2nd
I'm pretty sure in the past I've seen a program that has a button that you can just push that does a Hard Reset...looking for it.
I've never done the Clear Storage, so I'm no help there.
Have you tried using the soft keys on the face of the phone? The ones above the windows and ok buttons. I've only used these and never the ones on the keyboard.
Ivan
try doing it by pressing the two softkeys obave the send and end buttons and then prees the reset button with the stylus BUT KEEP PRESSING THE TWO SOFT KEYS, DON'T RELEASE THEM UNTIL YOU SEE THE HARD RESET SCREEN...
btonetbone & nelsongruebr
Thanks, that did the trick.
(Sorry for the long response time. I was in a coma for the last 6 months.)
to answer your earlier question about the "clear storage" method... yeah, that does the same hard reset as when you press the two softkeys (on face of phone) + reset button.
The "clear storage" is the only method for the xv6900 users to hardreset since they don't have softkeys.
Ive hardreset both ways on my xv6800 with the same result.

Hard Reset Procedure only produces a Soft Reset?

For some reason, whenever I try to do a hard reset, my tytn only does a soft reset.
That is, after pressing and holding the Left SOFT KEY and Right SOFT KEY, and at the same time, using the stylus to press the RESET button at the bottom of my tytn, I was NOT presented with a menu saying 'press R to reset, X to exit'. Instead, my tytn just reboots just as if I only pressed the RESET button alone.
Device details:
Hermes 200
IPL-1.04
SPL-2.10.Olipro
Flashed ROMs:
Stock ATT 6.1
FCW's 6.5 Stock-like ROM (D 3.62 by Josh)
I'm baffled at why there's no reaction to the hard reset. My searches not only did not yield any threads of issue resolution, but it also didn't yield any people having this similar problem.
As I purchased the phone off the black-market several years ago, I suspect that it could be because of some poor modified low-level firmware that was flashed before I bought it.
Any thoughts?
Is there anyway to do a hard reset via software, and not through the normal hard reset procedure? Or is there firmware that I can flash that contains the hard reset functionality?
Many thanks in advance!
assuming both your softkeys are working yes? To hard reset via software, run 'clear storage' from system settings.
Many thanks Macelius. Clear Storage did just the trick.
Additionally, since you brought it up, I think that my Left SOFT KEY may be starting to fail. It works roughly 1 out of 4 presses, so I thought it still worked but was not responsive because of laggy software.
Though of the 5-6 times I tried to Hard Reset, I guess the Left SOFT KEY didn't work once.
Thanks again Macelius. Good stuff.

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