[IDEA] Hard Keys Backlight as Notification - Desire Themes and Apps

Hi guys, i don't know about you, but the only thing that annoys me about our beloved Desire is its tiny-nigh-invisible notification led. Aside from the very short blinking time (which can be tweaked), if the phone is charging it simply doesn't show anything when a new sms/email/whatever is received, as the led is in his fixed orange state. I come from a Hero and used to LOVE the blinking trackball..while i find it pretty darn stupid that HTC did not include a simple led in the Desire trackball, i realized that in theory we could achieve a pretty decent result by using the backlighting of the 4 hard keys, making them blink when necessary...Now my knowledge of linux, android etc is pretty limited, so i'm asking to whomever will listen , can it be done? Since the backlight appears to be triggered by the ambient light sensor, i realize it might not be that easy...any thoughts?

Very Nice Idea!
But is it possible? I also would like to know..............

MacCarron said:
I come from a Hero and used to LOVE the blinking trackball..while i find it pretty darn stupid that HTC did not include a simple led in the Desire trackball
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What trackball would that be, because the Desire doesn't have one!
That little "hole" in the optical trackpad *is* the optical trackpad, so they couldn't put an LED in it.
Regards,
Dave

Would be cool if that backlight for the hardware keys could be configured to change colour for SMS/Mail/Call so it would work even in low light conditions where it is lit white...
Yeah, far fetched, I know. The LED colour notifications is something I miss from my older routine immensely.
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foxmeister said:
What trackball would that be, because the Desire doesn't have one!
That little "hole" in the optical trackpad *is* the optical trackpad, so they couldn't put an LED in it.
Regards,
Dave
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Yeah i meant trackpad but wrote trackball. I guess they could have put a series of leds around it in a circle or whatever, you get the idea, that's not the point

Another similar idea I have is to use the camera flash for notifications.
Any thoughts about that?
Might be possible even for non rooted devices like my own.

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Dual LEDs on Hero - CDMA

I have a CDMA Hero from sprint in the US and am wondering if it has dual LED notification lights. I have read in lots of places that it does but am wondering if it actually has dual LED since my notifications only light up the left side. From the dash 3G I remember that the LED on the left was an LED and the one on the right side that looked like an LED was actually the light sensor. I also know that the Hero is supposed to have a light sensor. Just curious, thanks for any help.
::crosses fingers and hopes for Dual LED::
I think (I don't have a Hero yet, I'm just going off the online documentation for it), that the trackball acts as the second indicator "LED", but there isn't one on the right side of the earpiece, only the left. The trackball flashes when you have an incoming call or a notification.
sounds like it's the other way round from the GSM one then...the GSM has the LED on the right and the light sensor on the left.
no Dual LED's
I also have a sprint hero. The left led is the only one that flashes. It doesn't change color either. And the track ball does light up if u turn it on in the settings. As for the second led on the top right, it is definitely the light sensor. U can test it for yourself by putting your finger over it, and watch the screen dim.....
the one on the right is the light sensor.. cover it and it goes dim.
dbroadus2007 said:
I also have a sprint hero. The left led is the only one that flashes. It doesn't change color either. And the track ball does light up if u turn it on in the settings. As for the second led on the top right, it is definitely the light sensor. U can test it for yourself by putting your finger over it, and watch the screen dim.....
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The LED on the left will change color and flashing pattern depending on your battery life and whether you have notifications or not. No notifications, no light (at least from what I've seen). If you're low on battery, the light goes yellow, and if you're within the 10-15 min boundary or less for battery life, light blinks red.
Thanks for all your help and I didnt realize that I had auto backlight disabled must have done that the first day I was messing with it all, I see now how the sensor reacts to having a finger over it. I would have enjoyed dual LEDs up top but oh well. Any way to customize the color of notifications, tried the handcent but it doesnt affect the LED at all or the trackball light for that matter. Going to try missed call or sms popup later to see if I can get some better results.
dbroadus2007 said:
I also have a sprint hero. The left led is the only one that flashes. It doesn't change color either. And the track ball does light up if u turn it on in the settings. As for the second led on the top right, it is definitely the light sensor. U can test it for yourself by putting your finger over it, and watch the screen dim.....
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where in the settings can you turn the trackball on to flash? I cant find it anywhere except on Handcent app. Still doesnt flash though on mine for text
erasmogjr said:
Thanks for all your help and I didnt realize that I had auto backlight disabled must have done that the first day I was messing with it all, I see now how the sensor reacts to having a finger over it. I would have enjoyed dual LEDs up top but oh well. Any way to customize the color of notifications, tried the handcent but it doesnt affect the LED at all or the trackball light for that matter. Going to try missed call or sms popup later to see if I can get some better results.
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I meant to say it does not change colors for notifications lol....but good info though.
ratchetjaw said:
where in the settings can you turn the trackball on to flash? I cant find it anywhere except on Handcent app. Still doesnt flash though on mine for text
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I read somewhere the flashing trackball doesn't work on our CDMA Hero
That would make sense since I can't seem to get my trackball to flash, what a bummer. Hopefully we can get root or a software fix soon.
T-Mobile DASH 3G Led Indicator Lights
I have a T-Mobile Dash 3G. The left LED light is NOT flashing, and I would prefer that it does. I upgraded to WM 6.5 and I think that is what disabled the LED since I have seen videos on youtube where the indicator does flash.
The LED does glow orange and green when i am charging though.
Err I think you may have the wrong forum. This is for the HTC Hero, which runs Android not WM. Why not try starting your own thread in the correct Forum as you are more likely to get an answer there?

Capacitive buttons / trackball light control?

So the one thing that is annoying me a lot about my Nexus One is the backlight on the 4 capacitive buttons and the trackball flashing at night when it sites on my nightstand. I guess I could also add the charge light to this case as well. But that is less bothersome at the moment.
Does anyone have anymore information on whether the light for the trackball, capacitive buttons, and charge light can be disabled?
The only bits of information I can find searching is that the phone needs to be rooted to do this. That is great. What would be the next step? Is there a /proc listing for the trackball, capacitive buttons light, charge light that might take input to disable them?
Would love to hear if anyone has more information on this subject as i can't seem to find much info.
I have the same problem because I either have mine on the bed with me or on the night stand and that damn track ball light is bright when its pitch black, and I can't even tell you how many times I've bumped those damn capacitive buttons while typing or just in an app.
I hope the guys building custom roms will add toggles, or some developer will make toggles for rooted phones that would be very awesome and appreciated, I don't think just by me either.
I've never seen mine flash while charging, maybe if you have an alert, but you can clear those before you plop your phone down for the night.
the only light i have on when charging is the little orange light....
I'm guessing, that you need to answer a message or email or something.
You can use LEDs Hack, from the Market, to disable them; you can even configure it to automatically disable them when you plug in your phone, and re-enable them when you un-plug. It's free, from the developer who created Bedside, the (IMHO) best night clock app. (If you like LEDs Hack, you might try Bedside for a mere $1.50 -- a pittance, really.)
My impression is that if you have the built in clock application running before you turn your phone off, trackball and buttons light won't turn on even if you have an alert. I might be wrong though...
danguyf said:
You can use LEDs Hack, from the Market, to disable them; you can even configure it to automatically disable them when you plug in your phone, and re-enable them when you un-plug. It's free, from the developer who created Bedside, the (IMHO) best night clock app. (If you like LEDs Hack, you might try Bedside for a mere $1.50 -- a pittance, really.)
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LEDs Hack looks EXACTLY what I am looking for. Thank you for this tip (doesn't show up in my searches. But found on androlib.com).
IMHO, this functionality SHOULD be native in the phone.
I wonder if this program also covers the trackball light flashing?
Yes, I know the flashing is because I have a message waiting. But the point is, I don't want to be woken up in the middle of the night because of a flashing light just for a silly email or text message!

HTC maple LED?!

ok i was wondering... why is there two LEDs on HTC maple and only one is being used
I noticed that too. There's got to be an app that allows you to customize how they blink. I used an old one for HTC phones but is not compatible.
I'm pretty sure the "light" on the right side of the phone is the sensor that automatically dims the backlight if you have the option turned on. I don't think it's an LED at all.
I think that there is only one LED diode exactly on the left side on the right side is a light sensor.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=680231
I didn't see anything about the second LED from that link. So does this mean the other LED will not blink?
It's not an LED.
jinbuster said:
ok i was wondering... why is there two LEDs on HTC maple and only one is being used
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The left side is a bi-colour LED with (maybe tri-colour) but so far I have only seen green and orange. Red maybe the third colour. Unlike the HTC Hermes 200 (Tytn) that had a second LED that was flashed blue when the bluetooth was active, the HTC Maple does not seem to have it. The right lens is actually a light sensor for the keyboard backlight *IF* you wish to use that feature which quite frankly SUCKS as I can't see anything most of the time because it doesn't switch on the backlight when you really need it.
I would prefer if it actually controls screen brightness. I wonder if there's a patch for that?
astrise said:
I would prefer if it actually controls screen brightness. I wonder if there's a patch for that?
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Doubtful as it only seems to be a on or off command and not a on at level command. I just wish that it would be adjustable for light level setting as it never comes on in low light conditions when it should unless you cover it with a finger.

Notification light

anybody working on or considering making notification light using the capacitive buttons on the bottom? is it possible to use those leds as a notification?
That would be an awesome solution...
To use as notifications OnLY the capasitive buttons and not all Screen as "NoLED" app...
+1 from me...
+1 I also agree
and maybe a stretch and maybe you guys dont agree but you could also have each button be a different notification, ie:
text message the back button would light up, email the menu button so on and so fourth
+2 for this idea
It's already been done for the galaxy s's, BLN requires a custom kernel though.
I prefer NoLed, in the market, works great for notifications. NoLed
Im thinking about getting a Nexus S.
The only thing stopping me is the lack of notification LED.
It would be pretty good if this could work.
And being able to tell if its sms or email etc from which button lights would be very cool. But i would think the backlight is just one big light.
I've had a look at NoLed, but it doesnt seem ideal. If i get a notification while im asleep, the screens going to stay on for up to 8 hours non stop? That doesnt sound good.
Also it seems to mess with the lock screen and wake up of the phone.
So i just noticed today when pressing the capacitive button, it turns off. that likely means each one is lit independently from a separate LED correct? so if thats the case, theoretically each led should be able to flash independently?
terryhau said:
Im thinking about getting a Nexus S.
The only thing stopping me is the lack of notification LED.
It would be pretty good if this could work.
And being able to tell if its sms or email etc from which button lights would be very cool. But i would think the backlight is just one big light.
I've had a look at NoLed, but it doesnt seem ideal. If i get a notification while im asleep, the screens going to stay on for up to 8 hours non stop? That doesnt sound good.
Also it seems to mess with the lock screen and wake up of the phone.
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From what I read... the NOLED app works well with the AMOLED screens because blacks dont use power. It basically turns on for that single notification or something like that.
You should read more about it from the vibrant sub forum.... with both having AMOLED screens.
azn2050 said:
From what I read... the NOLED app works well with the AMOLED screens because blacks dont use power. It basically turns on for that single notification or something like that.
You should read more about it from the vibrant sub forum.... with both having AMOLED screens.
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Correct, in amoled screens the only pixels drawing power are the ones that are being lit for the notification. You can also set the notifications to timeout after a certain amount of minutes, and can also set a "sleep time" so there no notification while you're sleeping at night. Another awesome feature is the use of the proximity sensor, so that if the phone is in your pocket it doesn't turn on the notification but once you take your phone out of your pocket the notification shows up on the screen.
Check the devs thread for more info:
integra891 said:
So i just noticed today when pressing the capacitive button, it turns off. that likely means each one is lit independently from a separate LED correct? so if thats the case, theoretically each led should be able to flash independently?
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This is EXACTLY what I hoped was going to be possible.
integra891 said:
So i just noticed today when pressing the capacitive button, it turns off. that likely means each one is lit independently from a separate LED correct? so if thats the case, theoretically each led should be able to flash independently?
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You would think this would've the case but not exactly. The galaxy s does this also but it is not possible to activate the leds separately
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matt_stang said:
You would think this would've the case but not exactly. The galaxy s does this also but it is not possible to activate the leds separately
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App
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Yes, I was also thinking this too but could there be some sort of app written making it believe all other buttons were "pressed" so their lights were off once a notification came in? I strongly believe ANYTHING can be changed with a few smart edits I mean people here on XDA bring multi-touch and FM radio's to devices that shouldn't have those features!
Even if you could have each notification have a different light dimmed as if it were being "pressed"
As in: Text message= all lights lit BUT the home
Voicemail=all lights lit BUT the back button ETC...
If they could be seperate that would be great but honestly even if it's all of them it's good enough for me, I just wanna see SOMETHING if my phone is just sitting there
ikon8 said:
It's already been done for the galaxy s's, BLN requires a custom kernel though.
I prefer NoLed, in the market, works great for notifications. NoLed
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NoLED is ok except for 2 things for me.
1 - I don't like the dots/icons hopping around the screen. I would rather they were just lined up across the top or the side.
2 - It plays around a bit much with turning the screen on and off.
Looking at NoLED there is NO reason why he couldn't make it act exactly like the Notification LED for the Ball on the Nexus One. Just have different colors for different notifications and rotate them on the same cluster of 4 LEDS on the top right of the phone.
Boom you have rotating colored notifications simple and effective
I wish I was better at coding stuff...haha
I'm glad there is a thread going about this!
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You couldn't be anymore on point man. The jumping about is slightly unprofessional.
hopefully well see some work towards this once some custom roms start coming out
The reason the notifications move around the screen is so that it doesn't burn out those pixels.
dudeimgeorge said:
You couldn't be anymore on point man. The jumping about is slightly unprofessional.
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Yes I agree, it would be amazing if they just slid around your screen or drifted all over. OR a pulsing light pops up on the screen just like a virtual trackball like the nexus one!
sassyness77 said:
Yes I agree, it would be amazing if they just slid around your screen or drifted all over. OR a pulsing light pops up on the screen just like a virtual trackball like the nexus one!
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clearly you guys do not understand why it jumps around so unprofessionally
do you want burned out pixel?

[Q] LED trackball

Anyone actually have the led in the trackball go off? i think ive seen it once the first time i turned on the phone and that was the last time ive ever seen it go off
Unless I missed something, that is not a feature of the phone. We do have the LED notification light next to the speaker, though.
yea i know we have the led at the top but i could of sworn saw something bout a led under the track was prob my faulty mind tho lol
Maybe thinking of the Nexus One?
Ilivetofrag said:
yea i know we have the led at the top but i could of sworn saw something bout a led under the track was prob my faulty mind tho lol
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MyTouch 3G has a lit up trackball, iirc.
would be interesting to see an LED in there, but I imagine it might interfere with the optical sensor's ability... or it could enhance it a la Blutrak.
What you see when your device boots up is the optical laser turning on. Like you optical mouse but the phone has a red tinted cover over it. Its brighter on power up due to the controller program not being open yett.
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There is a red light in the trackpad. turn screen off and on and look closely
yea its like an O P T I C A L MOUSE....
lmao ^^ i wonder if there is a way to make it light up for notification.
What I really want to know is how to keep the notification light on until a message is checked.

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