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At the risk of being attacked for being a total noob, I must say this.
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I have an ipad.
I have an iphone 3gs. Apple won't let me tether the iphone 3gs to my ipad, because they are evil and greedy (for no other reason).
And because they are evil and greedy, I've chosen to buy another phone (htc desire) that I was told would wifi tether because it was running the latest version of android bla bla bla. You get the picture.
I should have done my home work. Turns out, I have to root the phone? Which could brick it, and cause a nightmare of issues. Also, the wifi tether doesn't actually work properly. You have to manually assign an ip address and can only use WEP. Bah!
HTC doesn't even support syncing the phone to a MAC. You can tell they are really interested in gaining market share (not).
Am I the only person who just wants this phone to tether to an iPad and do the other normal phone things with no hassle? I'm all for advancing technology by way of bricking your expensive phones etc. But sometimes things should 'just work' *laughs at self for saying something so apple'esque*
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Just plug it up with the USB... the Desire has built in tethering capabilities.
Nope.
Whiterin said:
Just plug it up with the USB... the Desire has built in tethering capabilities.
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With a macbook, no it doesn't.
With an iPad. Definitely not.
wtf
p.s. This isn't a Theme and App topic, so to the mod who moved it. wtf?
This is about android development for the HTC Desire.
Blame Steve Jobs for that. He does not allow it.
This is not Android issue.
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With a macbook, no it doesn't.
With an iPad. Definitely not.
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gogol said:
Blame Steve Jobs for that. He does not allow it.
This is not Android issue.
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I know it's not an Android issue, but android exists to offer alternatives to Steve Jobs and apples monarchy. So I was hoping somebody would figure out a way successfully create a wifi tether application that works without rooting and potentially bricking the htc desire. Maybe the android people at google could make this an out of the box feature, to cut into apple's market share.
Well, if tethering is disabled on apple devices, then it's probably not going to work (for very long at least) even with a root or a new feature.
When your phone creates a wifi network, how would the apple device know what it is? If you ensure your wifi network is a standard protocol, the mac, iPad whatever can't tell. It just connects, provided the phone does the wifi part properly.
iPhone developers created myWi, works with no issues at all. Costs $10 bucks.
I'd pay $20 bucks for a working version on the HTC Desire.
wifi tether work after rooting.. install "wifi tether", you can find it in android market..
then read this guide:
1) started wifi tether on desire
2) connect iPad (or any other device) to desire wifi network
3) set ip static on iPad (or any other device):
IP address 192.168.2.100
subnet mask 255.255.255.255
gateway 192.168.2.254
dns 192.168.2.254
4) ping with terminal emulator command :
ping 192.168.2.100
5) killed ping
6) goto safari (or any other internet browser) and surf on web .....
100% working
Yeah,
I get that you can get it working, and I appreciate your tips.
However the point remains, that as a consumer, and purchaser of a phone that is meant to compete with the iphone. I should not have to root my htc desire, and screw around with ip addresses and subnet masks, just to get this phone to do something my iphone can do.
Get it?
Your iPhone can't do it though. If it could you wouldn't be ranting in here, would you?
If you are unhappy with having to actually do something that requires very, very little effort then I suggest you stick to Apple products.
Both apple & HTC disable these options for many reasons. At least you can by pass this block in your HTC via rooting. Just follow all the great advice from these forums and you'llbe safe. And if you brick your phone it sounds like you can afford a replacement as you already have a iphone, ipad, htc, etc
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Your iPhone can't do it though. If it could you wouldn't be ranting in here, would you?
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My iphone CAN do it. It's called mywi. I explained this in the first post.
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If you are unhappy with having to actually do something that requires very, very little effort then I suggest you stick to Apple products.
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I'm unhappy that HTC doesn't make the phone sync with a MAC by default. I'm also unhappy that creating a wifi from the phone is something you need to root the phone to do. I'm also unhappy that to do it on a HTC Desire requires additional steps which include ****ing around with ip address's and subnet masks.
I'm right when I say, that HTC and the Android community need to spot the market share and steal it.
Not everyone can be bothered figuring out how to download roms and root phones. If this functionality came out of the box, it would be a major selling point.
I'm unhappy that HTC doesn't make the phone sync with a MAC by default. I'm also unhappy that creating a wifi from the phone is something you need to root the phone to do.
I'm right when I say, that HTC and the Android community need to spot the market share and steal it.
Not everyone can be bothered figuring out how to download roms and root phones. If this functionality came out of the box, it would be a major selling point.
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I agree that the things you stated would be sweet to have. I've rooted my Desire just to tether and to run Apps from SD. However, WiFi tethering still isn't hassle free. Sure I'll use it if I really have to, but at this point it certainly isn't something.to show off to people. Symbian phones can do it without hacking, using Joikuspot app (currently $5). Come to think of it, doesn't the Palm Pre also offer WiFi tether out of the box?
I've had the Desire for 2 weeks now, I kind of like it, but find that Android isn't really much more open than iPhone OS. On a jailbroken iPhone, I can do pretty much everything, I can on my rooted Desire, except for the obvious things as is LED flash and Flash Lite in the browser. None of which are really great.
About syncing with your Mac, comming from an Apple only set up I had the same issues. I suggest you try googling for SyncMate and you probably already know DoubleTwist for syncing media.
As last word of advice, keep your iPhone, I sure will mine.
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I'm also unhappy that creating a wifi from the phone is something you need to root the phone to do. I'm also unhappy that to do it on a HTC Desire requires additional steps which include ****ing around with ip address's and subnet masks.
I'm right when I say, that HTC and the Android community need to spot the market share and steal it.
Not everyone can be bothered figuring out how to download roms and root phones. If this functionality came out of the box, it would be a major selling point.
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You're unhappy about this, you're unhappy about that. You can be unhappy as much as you want but that's how it's working right now. I know that it's a hassle using Wi-Fi tether on the desire right now. But it'll get better. You can't just say "Make it so" and expect it'll be done. The guys on this forum are trying the best they can. You don't like it there are alternatives.
And as you said in the first post, you would have known all these issues if you informed yourself better before purchasing the phone, and not complain that this is somehow a problem that android or the devs here created.
You are wrong and sound stupid. Wifi tethering is not free nor is it an option so if you want it you have to root your phone. Why should wifi tethering be free? Not to mention the palm pre plus and palm pre pixie come with the app from Verizon, the sprint versions do not. The evo comes with sprint hotspots. If you don't have a hot spot app blame your carrier not android moron.
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Your iPhone can't do it though. If it could you wouldn't be ranting in here, would you?
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My iphone CAN do it. It's called mywi. I explained this in the first post.
If you are unhappy with having to actually do something that requires very, very little effort then I suggest you stick to Apple products.
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I'm unhappy that HTC doesn't make the phone sync with a MAC by default. I'm also unhappy that creating a wifi from the phone is something you need to root the phone to do. I'm also unhappy that to do it on a HTC Desire requires additional steps which include ****ing around with ip address's and subnet masks.
I'm right when I say, that HTC and the Android community need to spot the market share and steal it.
Not everyone can be bothered figuring out how to download roms and root phones. If this functionality came out of the box, it would be a major selling point.
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If ya can't be bothered why bother getting one in the first place. And people come here for help with rooting and ROM s that's what the whole sites about.
If you not rooting or have questions rooting related then ask on a forum for USERS not devs.
Sooo glad I never went an got a iPad poo. Even better the HP tablets out soon.
An if your out with it ipoo just sit in McDonald's and get free WiFi or just buy a WiFi router..........
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If you don't have a hot spot app blame your carrier not android moron.
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Well it doesn't have anything to do with the carrier if one's not living in the US. I can tether my phone as much as I want. In Europe we pay for data volume not for the way we use it. Sadly the US trends seem to be spreading to the EU more and more, so maybe one day our freedom of consuming mobile data will end also.
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Sounds like you should have just bought an old 2nd hand crappy winmo 6.1 device and used the wifi tether on that with the sim out your iPhone.
You people are ****ing nuts. (Excluding the nice mac user who wrote some nice things about his experience)
If we could go back a few hundred years, you'd be the kind of people trying to convince yourselves and others, that the african american slaves should be happy with what they've got, and that the right to vote and full pay is pie in the sky and shouldn't be free.
If HTC and android figured out a way to make wifi tether come out of the box, do you think HTC phones sales would drop? or increase?
If HTC offered supported software to tether and sync their phones to macs, do you think their phone sales would drop? or increase?
I'm not asking for something that is impossible or expensive. It is not included out of pure laziness. It's not included because you're happy with what little you get for free from the hard working developers in this community who are working on it, because there is no alternative.
To the iphone guy who advised I keep my iphone. You're right. I will. It was stupid of me to expect HTC and android could come close to replacing it. And I imagine this will continue to be the case until HTC learns to take care of their apple users who are wishing to defect.
Hi guys,
After checking all the reviews, discussions and spent quite some hours in the store playing it, I can definitely feel the new era of tablet is coming. The 7" display is perfect for reading and the weight is not a burden for single hand holding. But the thing is I already have a i9000 (Galaxy S vibrant from Bell Canada using on Fido) with 6GB of mobile data. I am currently debating if I should jump in the TAB bandwagon now... Can someone share some thoughts on the following:
1. What's the future of Galaxy tab? I've been reading quite a lot of online articles and lots critics are saying the current android versions are yet to be ready to be served as "tablet" OS. What do you guys think?! I am pretty sure tab will get 2.3 in early next year but will it be getting 3.0 as well (official, not by XDA-gods)?
2. Like I mentioned, I already have a i9000 with me all the time, I really do not think it will be good idea to swap the sim card between teo devices all the times. I believe many of you here have a nice smartphone (android/iphone/BB...) with data plan. Tell me, how do you manage two "smart" devices with one sim card so you do not pay data twice!?
3. To be honest, I do not see myself talking with a 7" tab upside down. I know there're bluetooth solutions (hand free), but any other thoughts?! I saw someone's review on the SE liveview, but I personally think this device is yet to be matured but the device got very good potential in the future if they keep developing it. Did anyone try to pair bluetooth hand free+liveview+tab all three at the same time? So when liveview vibrates I can quickly answer the call with bluetooth handfree...
4. Are you happy with your wifi only tab?! I will be traveling to US soon, where can I get a good price on wifi only tab other than ebay?! If I cannot manage two devices with one sim card, I think a wifi tab is not a bad choice... worst comes worst, I will use mobile AP on my i9000 to share data with tab.
Thanks for your sharing, any comments will be greatly appreciated.
cheers!
To answer question 2 I set up my mobile as a wifi hotspot and connect with my tab.
In the new year there will be a load of new tabs on the market, perhaps its wise to hold off until then.
The galaxy tab will be in the sales by then anyway
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ymlccc said:
Hi guys,
1. What's the future of Galaxy tab? I've been reading quite a lot of online articles and lots critics are saying the current android versions are yet to be ready to be served as "tablet" OS. What do you guys think?! I am pretty sure tab will get 2.3 in early next year but will it be getting 3.0 as well (official, not by XDA-gods)?
Does it really matter if it gets 2.3 or 3.0? You should always buy a device for what it does NOW, not what it could do. And the Tab does a whole helluva lot right now, today, with 2.2. Anything else would be gravy.
That said, it'll get 2.3 at the very least.
2. Like I mentioned, I already have a i9000 with me all the time, I really do not think it will be good idea to swap the sim card between teo devices all the times. I believe many of you here have a nice smartphone (android/iphone/BB...) with data plan. Tell me, how do you manage two "smart" devices with one sim card so you do not pay data twice!?
You know, I have a Galaxy S as well, been using one since July, best smartphone I've ever owned, love it.
But you what else? Since I picked up the Tab 3.5 weeks ago, I barely use the SGS for anything besides voice calling, and glancing at the weather.
Since I might use something like 30 voice minutes a YEAR, I'm seriously contemplating saying goodbye to the SGS, sticking that voice-data (and free US data roaming) SIM in my Tab and dropping the tablet data-only/Canada-only plan .
3. To be honest, I do not see myself talking with a 7" tab upside down. I know there're bluetooth solutions (hand free), but any other thoughts?! I saw someone's review on the SE liveview, but I personally think this device is yet to be matured but the device got very good potential in the future if they keep developing it. Did anyone try to pair bluetooth hand free+liveview+tab all three at the same time? So when liveview vibrates I can quickly answer the call with bluetooth handfree...
You can get vibrating bluetooth earpieces.
4. Are you happy with your wifi only tab?! I will be traveling to US soon, where can I get a good price on wifi only tab other than ebay?! If I cannot manage two devices with one sim card, I think a wifi tab is not a bad choice... worst comes worst, I will use mobile AP on my i9000 to share data with tab.
There is no such thing as a WiFi-only Tab right now, probably won't be for at least another month, and if/when it is released you'll have to hack it for Market support, guaranteed.
Also, don't count on using that mobile AP for longer than about an hour before the i9000 is drained.
Prices will come down a bit on the 3G versions of the Tab, but not a lot. The price drops in the UK were simply adjustments to bring them more in-line with US pricing, not as a panic or market correction.
I'd always recommend paying the price premium for the 3G version over the mythical WiFi-only version because doing so means you don't have to wait, you can enjoy your Tab immediately, and you have more options. Use it without a SIM and it becomes a WiFi-only device at that point, with the option to use 3G if the need arises.
Keep in mind that nobody besides Samsung has any idea what price point the WiFi-only version will come in at, if it is actually released. How can it be much cheaper than the 3G version? A 3G radio and antenna array costs only a few dollars...not hundreds. Even Apple, just about the worst gougers ever in the electronics world, only charge a $75-100 premium for the 3G version.
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roy8846 said:
To answer question 2 I set up my mobile as a wifi hotspot and connect with my tab.
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I am having major problems trying to do this, and keeping my Tab will depend on me figuring out why my mobile wifi hotspot phone works with regular computers but not my Tab
Been ready to throw the Tab off a cliff because it makes no sense when it has WEP connectivity but can't see my phone's WEP hotspot.
Suleeto said:
I am having major problems trying to do this, and keeping my Tab will depend on me figuring out why my mobile wifi hotspot phone works with regular computers but not my Tab
Been ready to throw the Tab off a cliff because it makes no sense when it has WEP connectivity but can't see my phone's WEP hotspot.
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The Galaxy Tab does not detect my HD2 router, I tested several softwares of the Android Market, but none connected, someone were finding the access point, but none was connecting. That is the worst!
We need a hack or something to do this work.
But my HD2 connects with the Galaxy Tab wifi router!
The galaxy tab does not see adhoc networks. You would have to use a mobile ap. Hope this helps.
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The galaxy tab does not see adhoc networks. You would have to use a mobile ap. Hope this helps.
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This is true, however some phones can create real infrastructure wifi networks like the Nexus One.
I was planning on waiting till the wifi version of the tab came out to get it and just tethering it to my phone but I ended up picking up the sprint version and I have to say that I'm glad I did. I'm paying the 30 a month for data but for me it's worthwhile. I know that better tablets will come out but I'm OK with getting a new tablet in another 1-2 years.
I have a galaxy s and the first days I used the tethering option to conect via wifi and worked perfectly.
Now what I do is different. I purchased a double line sim, wich lets you use your sim card in two different devices at the same time including the data plan.
My carrier is Orange in Spain but I suppose all carriers have this option because more and more cars are being sold with stereos that let you insert you sim.
About the future of the tab, its sure its going to be upgraded to gingerbread and to be honest I don't need anything with more power, for the use I give it its perfect and will be for some time.
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Well I've had mine for 2 months now and I can unequivocally say go for it.
The device in my opinion works best with a data-only pay as you go plan.
The tab is pretty rubbish as a phone (I find using wired or bt headsets just makes me look like a loonier and generally uncomfortable considering its size), but as an independent 3g/ edge device it saves my phone battery and gives me the option of having a connection even deep in the Russian countryside.
Agps is also important if you drive a lot using navigation, and it wont be available with the wiring only version.
Re usability - with a few simple tweaks I now have a device that runs silky smooth. No less so than my sisters ipad. My browser doesn't lag. My battery lasts 2 days with light use. My email client downloads and opens all attachments and my video player plays almost every file I throw at it. My device is dlna enabled and my initial distrust of the size has turned to a point of pride.
As I've said before, with android, there really is no spoon. It is the finest mobile tablet experience for the road. For home use you should really consider a 10+ inch, windows 7 slate.
Considering the nature of android apps, the only benefits you will see from holding off and buying a tegra 2 powered tablet that's due out in the next few months are higher benchmark scores and lower prices.
In terms of overall build quality, samsungs commitment to updates (there are already TENS OF FIRMWARE versions available) and general awesomeness, I would say tab.
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Forgive my ignorance but what is a "mobile ap" and can it be done on my WM (Tilt 2/Rhodium) phone so I can get a data connection from the phone to the Tab?
Yeah I got the tab within a week of its release in my country and yes it cost a bomb but its worth every penny paid for it! I simply love the size and portability of the tab and the fact that I can have an almost desktop level experience on it!
I love the fact that I can browse the web in full, watch videos embedded in sites, YouTube, javascripts, downloads work great, I can stream music or watch movies or read books or manga or comics, take it out for navigation while driving...the full web experience on the go! The yiuchscreen works like a smooth dream, overall device build quality is awesome...i can check all emails and other stuff...What can be better....
Sure Gingerbread may or may not improve the experience but as it stands now Froyo works like a dream on the tab...the idiot Google spokesperson who commented that Froyp was not optimized for tablets need to be kicked for shooting of his mouth!
For me the Tab is the best device till date - the power of a PC in a compact form factor...I rarely use my PC or netbook or laptops or other mobile devices nowadays...when I need to do something on the net, I reach for the tab!
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Go for it, it's worth every penny you spend on it
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I think Google very much queered the pitch for devices like the Tab when they said that Android was not optimized for tablets.
An example can be found here, where it says:
According to Barra, Android market apps "just wouldn't run" on a tablet-oriented platform, as Froyo was simply "not designed for that form factor."
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Really? I must say that I've not found an app yet that doesn't run on the Tab, though I'm sure they do exist. However, this is no different to any Android phone - there are apps that will run on some phones but not on others, even though they have the same Android version.
This comment is the real deal though:
"We want to make sure that we're going to create a application distribution mechanism for the Android market, to ensure our users have [the] right experience," he added.
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There's no formal "section" in the Android Market for Tablet apps, making it hard to find tablet specific versions - this is true!
However, everyone has picked up on the "not optimized" comment and it gets rolled out all the time by people who basically have never used the Tab in anger.
To be honest though, I think that you can consider the Galaxy Tab running Froyo akin to the iPad running iOS 3.2 - the iPad became a much improved device when iOS 4.2, but was still perfectly fine on iOS 3.2. We should see the same with Gingerbread/Honeycomb.
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Thanks guys for the support, yes, I am unboxing my tab right now and darn, I am pretty happy for it (now). But I do use my SGS quite a lot (20 min+ talk) so I need a better management between the phone and tab. I think I am a bit greedy and wish I have data eveywhere and on all my devices.
I personaly think the mobile OS evolves faster than what I can imagine and seriously after the house, car, and then soon kids, a device that will only last 6 to 8 months with further upgrade to me is waste of money. For $650CND+tax, I hope it could last me minimum a yea...
Action plan:
1. Get it unlocked and rooted.
2. Flash it to Euro+Bell modem (mine is Rogers)
3. Find a nice case (no profolio) with kickstand (any recommendations?)
I also think Mobile AP will drain way too much joice from the battery even though I have two spare batteries but it will be not so conveinent in the long run...
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I think I am a bit greedy and wish I have data eveywhere and on all my devices. ..
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Lol...welcome to the club...I have a second sim from Vodafone with an unlimited data and voice plan, under the corporate plan and the service provider keeps on cribbing am not using the voice plan...
I have found the battery to last longer by reducing the screen brightness between 15-20%...
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Why are people complaining that their Motorola Xoom isn't a phone? I get a real laugh out of the "I'm so pissed because I can't call someone from this device" threads. Texting is another laughable point? Really you aren't carrying a phone around with you at the same time as your Xoom that you can't pull it out for 3 seconds and fire off that txt? One guy wants to know why he can't use his Xoom as a GPS while he's FLYING.
Here is a short list of features that I *love* about the Xoom so far:
- Holy **** the screen is sexy. Playing around with some of these apps on a 10" widescreen is awesome.
- Battery Life - I am charing the thing overnight, picking it up in the morning at 100% and then typically ending the day at 70+% remaining. This is fantastic to me.
- Portability and ease of access - Using my acer netbook was a pain in the ass because I had to wait for windows to load, the desktop to show up... the workspace to be ready. This is instant on and ready.
- RDP works well - I can get into my books from anywhere, generate invoices and e-mail them to a customer right there on the spot. It's impressive and when you're a technology company it just looks good.
- Email support - The exchange support is awesome. The stock mail client could be a little stronger but I am very happy that it supports HTML as the android 2.2 / 2.3 mail client on my Nexus One does not/did not.
- Available storage space - Not having the SD slot isn't bothering me one bit. I would go as far as saying I may not ever even need it. Shipping the product with 32GB of internal storage was the way to go.
- App support - Out of the box, like 90% of my apps worked fine (granted I only use heavily maybe 5 out of the 40 that i have installed). The one or two apps that were missing at launch I've already gotten word from the developers that tablet ready versions or updates are on the way.
- Connectivity - Being a first time Verizon subscriber I am very impressed with the radio and/or 3G network behind it. When my AT&T phone has a **** signal or no signal at all, this Xoom tablet still picks up signal. That's cool to me and is a point that I would like to make separately about the need for the 3G version. Sure, I can tether through my AT&T phone but then I've got two points of failure to worry about.
My thoughts and comments regarding media consumption on this device:
- Music - I haven't had any issues at all. I use Windows Media Player 12 as a part of Windows 7 to manage my music library and it works wonderfully with the Xoom. I sync music to it just like any other generic MP3/music player. I susbcribe to the Zune Pass so actually obtaining music for me is a function I do on my PC, and then just transfer the music as I want or need it. To say that I must be able to download or purchase XYZ song on the road isn't necessary... isn't that what Pandora is for? Use Pandora to listen to what you want until you are in a position to purchase music, then do that. That's how I approach it.
- Videos/Movies - I'm not really a big "watch videos/movies on your portable" guy to begin with. That said, I do like to use youtube to show off certain things like video game trailers or movie trailers or something... but you tube isn't the issue on the Xoom and I don't think ever has been or ever will be. Some people have complained that the Xoom doesn't play the same H.264 videos that they can play on their Droid. To them I say that I'm sorry but your droid isn't running a Tegra 2 chipset. I do agree that the Tegra 2 should be able to handle a lot but I didn't design it.. shrug, what do I know. Seemingly however... the thing plays H.264 just fine if its encoded properly and it looks damn good. I ripped Kill Bill Volume 1 to H.264 with a 2k bitrate and it looked fantastic on the Xoom screen. I will admit that I'm not the best guy to take advice from in this area.
My thoughts / comments on whiners:
- Flash / SD Card Support - I really don't have anything to say about this. Flash 10.2 will be out soon enough and as far as the SD card is concerned I don't even need it. I only have a 4GB Class 6 micro SD card what's that going to do for me? It's laughable in size compared to whats in the unit.. I would only want to put a matching 32GB sd card in and that's gonna be another $100 minimum. Now your $799 device is an $899 device... where's the complaint for that?
- Can't make phone calls / TXT - Jesus christ, go buy a phone.
Nice review, particularly liked, "- Can't make phone calls / TXT - Jesus christ, go buy a phone."
Couldn't agree more!
Just ordered myself a Xoom and you've made me feel even better about my purchase. I'm a little worried about the video codecs thing but I'm sure Rockplayer or some such will sort that out. Thanks for a great review.
Thanks for the comments. If anyone has particular questions about the device or advice on how to best use the device for their situation fire away.
agreed up to one point
i agree man, def however
google voice must be used on this. not because of texting as a cellphone but because it does much more and can be so amazingly baked with all other google products.
that my friend, is inarguable.
please help that at least here
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You'll have to expand on your thought process for me. What do you want to use google voice for? Will it help you avoid scratching your Xoom up so you don't have to return a second one?
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You'll have to expand on your thought process for me. What do you want to use google voice for? Will it help you avoid scratching your Xoom up so you don't have to return a second one?
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Google Voice gives you a platform independent texting and voicemail interface. It does help to have it handy.
Why shouldn't your android tablet and phone be linked in some way so that you could receive notifications on either device and respond to them exactly like how webos works? Who could act like this is a ridiculous request??
Also, don't get your hopes up with regards to media playback. Tegra 2 is awful in that regard and has been proven on here in a different thread to be incapable of 720p high profile, which all galaxy s phones can do flawlessly.
Also, asking got certain features or if something is possible is not complaining.
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my second one is much more protected now thanks for the sad comment.
anyways, i am baffled at how one wouldnt want this, clearly people havent FOUND the use of it, to which i understand.
the customizations on notifications; be it text or voicemail is amazing and so useful, having this on your tablet WILL be a big plus trust me.
controlling voice mail set ups for particular people, having transcribed vm being able to foward that/ download that, controll recorded phone conversations, archiving, starring emails/texts
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- Can't make phone calls / TXT - Jesus christ, go buy a phone.
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Couldnt you use an app to hand those stuff over your 3g/4g services?
I don't necessarily expect the tablet to act as an independent texting device, but I would prefer to not have to pull my phone out of my pocket while I've got my Xoom in my hands already. I know I'll almost 99% of the time have my phone and tablet on me at the same time, but its more of a convenience thing.
The way that WebOS pulls your notifications to your tablet via bluetooth from your phone is perfect. I'm already tethering my Xoom for internet off my phone, why not just have text messages pop over too?
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I don't necessarily expect the tablet to act as an independent texting device, but I would prefer to not have to pull my phone out of my pocket while I've got my Xoom in my hands already. I know I'll almost 99% of the time have my phone and tablet on me at the same time, but its more of a convenience thing.
The way that WebOS pulls your notifications to your tablet via bluetooth from your phone is perfect. I'm already tethering my Xoom for internet off my phone, why not just have text messages pop over too?
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The way Palm... or well, HP, made the WebOS phones and WebOS tablets work together is very impressive. Implementing that text idea would be perfect.
Eclair~ said:
The way Palm... or well, HP, made the WebOS phones and WebOS tablets work together is very impressive. Implementing that text idea would be perfect.
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I agree. And its something that iOS and Android aren't even close to implementing. I see no reason why Google couldn't figure this out. I'm assuming that it will come later, probably with 2.4 for phones which will apparently implement what Google learned about 3.0 back into phones.
Automatically archiving your incoming text messages to an email address linked to your Xoom would at least be a step in the right direction. Granted it's only 50% of the issue, but it's better than nothing. At least you know whether or not to check your phone with a glance at your inbox notification.
theahlenius said:
Automatically archiving your incoming text messages to an email address linked to your Xoom would at least be a step in the right direction. Granted it's only 50% of the issue, but it's better than nothing. At least you know whether or not to check your phone with a glance at your inbox notification.
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I use SMS Backup for this very reason and just put gmail label shortcuts on my tablet. If my phone is upstairs or in my bag, I can just check the email to see if I got any texts.
But it would be cool if I could automatically notify on my tablet.
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Why are people complaining that their Motorola Xoom isn't a phone? I get a real laugh out of the "I'm so pissed because I can't call someone from this device" threads. Texting is another laughable point? Really you aren't carrying a phone around with you at the same time as your Xoom that you can't pull it out for 3 seconds and fire off that txt? One guy wants to know why he can't use his Xoom as a GPS while he's FLYING.
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I am so sick and tired of this pompous ass attitude. Maybe I keep my Xoom with me everywhere, maybe I use a bluetooth and never "pull out" my phone... MAYBE I dont want to pay to keep several devices active that do the exact same ****. What myself and many others have been after does not degrade the tablet devices that are out one bit, and in fact has been simply DISABLED on some devices.
Long story short, I do not appreciate you calling my desires for this device laughable, especially considering there are quite a few people with the same wants/needs.
/rant off
Morkai Almandragon said:
I am so sick and tired of this pompous ass attitude. Maybe I keep my Xoom with me everywhere, maybe I use a bluetooth and never "pull out" my phone... MAYBE I dont want to pay to keep several devices active that do the exact same ****. What myself and many others have been after does not degrade the tablet devices that are out one bit, and in fact has been simply DISABLED on some devices.
Long story short, I do not appreciate you calling my desires for this device laughable, especially considering there are quite a few people with the same wants/needs.
/rant off
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I agree. People that make an argument like this are no better than apple in telling them what limits their device has.
And the guy wasn't complaining about airplane GPS, he was just wondering about it. There's a lot of people that do recreational flying and only do daylight clear weather trips. A GPS is great to tell you where you are, its not like they'd be using it to get from point A to point B or landing on a runway in fog or flying a commercial airliner.
Just because someone wants something better (for them) doesn't mean its a complaint, its merely a wish. Ideas and hopes make these devices better and inspire devs to create things we all love.
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Hi, I am looking at the XOOM for doing some wireless Auditing around work. I was hoping that you would be able to provide some insight on its feasibility...
things on my wish list to find & map are: infrastructure mode AP's, Ad Hoc & polling/active clients.
I have some experience using Kismet on a laptop and it is the kind of functionality i would like.. just would like a more portable form factor for this, it will involve driving around a large campus style location and walking through buildings..
My Questions:
from what i have read, the Broadcom chipset used in these devices do not have a "Monitor" or "RFMON" Mode that would allow it to see all the packets flying by.. I have read a bit in some other forums about some work being done on this, but no recent activity... does anyone know of any current efforts on this?
I have read in previous discussions that the Xoom has problems connecting to a Ad-Hoc mode devices, does it still detect it?
I havent played with the Android war-driving apps too much, are they listening for packets or is it a probe and respond due to the lack of RFMON?
For those with experience, which war-driving apps would you recommend with the pros & cons?
Thanks in advance!
I can't answer most of your questions but I can say that my Xoom does not see my Samsung Epic when I set up wireless tether in Adhoc mode, only when I set it up in Infrastructure mode. It doesn't even see the SSID, but my netbook sees it fine.
I'm a diehard Android fan to say the least I'm an anti-apple but I do keep my options open. I own a few Touch, iPad, SGS Fascinate and Samsung Galaxy tab 2.2 and the Xoom is/was on my list. Last night I spend sometimes with the iPad that I own or should I say my kids owns it, I got IOS 4.3 GM on it to see the improvements. All I can say it's the same, no big changes except for better Apple TV support and browser speed. It's been months since I looked what was available on iTunes for it and to tell you the truth on what I saw was impressive. This has not changed my mind on getting the Xoom or did it? Now on Xoom, I've been reading almost every reviews on the net about it, spend a few hours with it at the local store "BB Bj's etc" and after reading the Ars review, I feel a little bit more hesitant about getting now than 2 days ago! I intend to get the Xoom Wifi only ver but no one knows when it will arrive, and what’s up with Europe getting it first? I have the deepest feeling that in six to ten months Honeycomb support will explode for it but that's in the future. With the release of the iPad 2, anyone getting it will look away from Android tablet for at least a year even if the Android tablet support quadruples. Starting March 11, the road is going to get very bumpy for Android and companies releasing Tablet for it. Just like harsaphes said, I too is on the fence for the Xoom…
Let me know what do you think about the Xoom no fanboys argument…Thanks guys
mjbeam said:
I can't answer most of your questions but I can say that my Xoom does not see my Samsung Epic when I set up wireless tether in Adhoc mode, only when I set it up in Infrastructure mode. It doesn't even see the SSID, but my netbook sees it fine.
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Have you tried with a wardriving app?
Blaisun said:
Have you tried with a wardriving app?
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No. I was just in the settings looking for the Epic wireless tether SSID.
I'm seeing the ability to share pics and videos in the specs.
We can't currently do it with our Galaxy Nexus to and from the SGS III (and I haven't been able to test it with any other devices) so is there something new in Android Beam coming with the Nexus 4?
In other words, can we get some wifi direct lovin?!
I think not,
My guess is (I have experienced the same thing) that the S3 is not capable of reviecing so large files via NFC.
and my simple guess is that if the S3 would have CyanogenMOD or something else it would work..
Shame since I have so many more friends with SGSIIIs than GNexii ... I actually don't know anyone with a GNex here where I live but I have three good pals with SGSIIIs.
Where exactly have you seen the sharing in specs (was it just in soecs or mentioned as well?)
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I'm seeing the ability to share pics and videos in the specs.
We can't currently do it with our Galaxy Nexus to and from the SGS III (and I haven't been able to test it with any other devices) so is there something new in Android Beam coming with the Nexus 4?
In other words, can we get some wifi direct lovin?!
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The Galaxy Nexus can send pictures via NFC. I tried it out with my Sprint Galaxy Nexus & GSM Galaxy Nexus. It'll take a while, but NFC picture transfers do work (I haven't tried videos though).
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Where exactly have you seen the sharing in specs (was it just in soecs or mentioned as well?)
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"Nexus 4 comes with Android Beam so you can easily share photos, videos, contacts, apps and more with a tap. Just touch two NFC-enabled Android devices back-to-back, then beam whatever's on the screen to your friend." From http://www.google.com/nexus/4/#camera.
I think it is the same old Android Beam though I was hoping it was something newer that would allow sharing with the GSIII. Good old proprietary Samsung. Google should have asked that NFC sharing was more standardized but true to Android platform tenets, Samsung went and made it better. Can't really blame them.
NFC only send very small data packets (~20kb). When it "shares over NFC", what they mean is the NFC initiates a Bluetooth connection, and sends the file via that.
I really feel sorry for myself for believing in those Sam****'s commercials. I need to stop believing in them real quick.
jahmgwapo said:
I really feel sorry for myself for believing in those Sam****'s commercials. I need to stop believing in them real quick.
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They (SGSIIIs) do everything they say in the commercials ... This is about the Nexus line and how it needs to get on the WiFi direct bandwagon or make it optional so that we Nexus folks can send large files with all NFC enabled devices--particularly the SGS III, which happens to be the most popular.
If the Nexus 4 somehow does this, I'd definitely go pick one up. That's why I want to know what's up with them.
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They (SGSIIIs) do everything they say in the commercials ... This is about the Nexus line and how it needs to get on the WiFi direct bandwagon or make it optional so that we Nexus folks can send large files with all NFC enabled devices--particularly the SGS III, which happens to be the most popular.
If the Nexus 4 somehow does this, I'd definitely go pick one up. That's why I want to know what's up with them.
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We'll I have a Nexus 4, and attempted to send a small photo I grabbed from the internet to my brother-in-law's Galaxy Note 2, and both phones respond to the NFC detection. My phone says "Touch to Beam", and I tap the screen, and the Galaxy Note 2 says "Incoming beam.." But after 10 to 15 secs, says "Incoming beam failed".
I tried it with my wife's phone (SG3), and the same problem happened. This is very disheartening.. Don't get me wrong, the Nexus 4 rocks, love how smooth, and clean the O/S. Just the fact that I can't take advantage of Android Beaming to another Android device sucks at the moment. Knowing the SG3 is almost everywhere now.
Hey thanks for checking that out!
So it looks like either S-Beam won't play nice with non-Galaxy S devices and/or the Nexus 4 doesn't use WiFi direct to actually send the file like S-Beam does.
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You know I've been playing around with NFC and Android Beam the past few days too and I'll share some of my results.
I've been able to "beam" links, youtube videos, and a picture. The devices I have available to try were my Nexus 4, a Galaxy Nexus (running 4.2 stock), and a Nexus S (running CM10 stable). All worked like it was supposed to. I did try to send a song to my brother's Nexus S, but it did the "Incoming beam..." thing that JayCapo pointed out. It eventually opened Google Music, but it never transferred.
Dunno, yet. Will try more and different scenarios.
I've only tried using Android Beam to receive a photo, which works fine, and that's with another Nexus4 device.
As for wifi direct, the option is there, but I've not tried it yet.
In the wifi settings page, press the menu (three dots?) in the bottom right and select wifi direct.
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I've only tried using Android Beam to receive a photo, which works fine, and that's with another Nexus4 device.
As for wifi direct, the option is there, but I've not tried it yet.
In the wifi settings page, press the menu (three dots?) in the bottom right and select wifi direct.
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Eeeek WiFi direct just kind of sits there not doing anything. I can connect to devices but the option to share doesn't seem to show up in the gallery or anywhere else. That's for another thread.