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Loving Hero - Leaving for Galaxy S

I've known and loved my HTC hero for a while now and my contract with Orange UK is set to expire end of September. I've been somewhat irritated by the delay with the 2.1 ROM for Hero, have tried (and not really got on with) most 2.1 ROMS and now am happily running the Modaco 3.2 with root and my new favourite: Swype!
Anyway... The thing I'm a bit tired of with the Hero is the speed. Generally it's fine and I'm used to it, but I definitely can'y wait for more SPEED! So surveying the scene I've decided to get the amazing looking Samsung Galaxy S when it's released. I was thinking of getting the next iPhone but I just can't go back to such a closed system without ROOT!
So... I've LOVED tinkering with my Hero, installing custom ROMS and stuff like that - I'm wondering how likely it is that the Samsung Galaxy S will even be "rootable" or have custom ROMs developed for it? I've seen the HTC Evo but not sure if that's going to be released in the UK and the Galaxy S has a better screen and just looks like it's a better phone in general. Is it mainly HTC phones that get "root"/dev love on these forums or is it likely I'll have much luck with the Samsung?

I've just googled some pics of the Galaxy S.
Both case and the OS skin look like a blatant iPhone rip off I hope it's got a sound recorder so it can save you the trouble of saying "No, it's not an iPhone it's a Samsung running Android" ..... "What's that?"
Even though HTC aren't the best at releasing updates, at least they're original! What's wrong with a Desire?
And yes, Swype is amazing.

kadison said:
I've just googled some pics of the Galaxy S.
Both case and the OS skin look like a blatant iPhone rip off I hope it's got a sound recorder so it can save you the trouble of saying "No, it's not an iPhone it's a Samsung running Android" ..... "What's that?"
Even though HTC aren't the best at releasing updates, at least they're original! What's wrong with a Desire?
And yes, Swype is amazing.
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The pics dont really do it justice. It does look a lot like an iPhone at first but then as can be seen on the videos of it in action - it's most definitely android! The Desire doesn't have that spanking gorgeous AMOLED screen! [dribbles].... The specs are "out of this world"! [haha!]

alsheron said:
The Desire doesn't have that spanking gorgeous AMOLED screen!
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Yes it does. http://www.htc.com/www/product/desire/specification.html

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Yes it does. http://www.htc.com/www/product/desire/specification.html
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Is it Super AMOLED? The new version designed to be better in direct sunlight/outdoors? Don't think so...

alsheron said:
Is it Super AMOLED? The new version designed to be better in direct sunlight/outdoors? Don't think so...
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Galaxy is better in almost every way, it has a dedicated GPU that's about 4 times as fast as the snapdragon. But it doesn't have such a widespread userbase. And samsung doesn't offer updates afaik so I'd rather get the desire.
Oh yeah it looks like c...

I'm all in for the Samsung Galaxy S too, when it arrives. It's sexy as hell and I know I'll love that dedicated GPU, that's even way better than the iPhone 3Gs'. My hero has served me well, and still does. My hero is also super fast, now that I've overclocked it to 700 mhz.
Edit: Just remembered also, that the desire and nexus screen cannot even remotely be compared to the screen of the samsung galaxy s. The screen is nice on desire and nexus, but there has been some talk about an actually lower effective resolution. Look at how the text isn't that crisp, you will notice.

my friend just got the HTC Legend on contract with vodafone before that he was on orange with a nokia n95 and he lives out in the sticks and now
gets much better signal and the phone feels a lot faster and is built much better than the hero and runs 2.1 you should look in to it
Sent from my aHero using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk

madsborelli said:
but there has been some talk about an actually lower effective resolution. Look at how the text isn't that crisp, you will notice.
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That would be the Pentile type display in the Nexus One and Desire. Unlike most LCD displays, a pentile type display does not have all three RGB subpixels, and uses subpixel rendering to make it 'look' like it has a higher resolution. It's actually Samsung's display btw.
I'm not sure if this is the same for the Super AMOLED, since the S-AMOLED is supposed to have integrated the touchscreen with the display (increasing clarity) and has nothing to do with how the pixels are rendered..
Anyway, I would also advise against getting a Samsung. If you think HTC's firmware/software support is bad.... Samsung pretty much abandons its products after it has been released.

Thanks
Thanks for the feedback guys - some great info here. Bit worrying the comment about Samsung abandoning their products!? Won't that be less so because the Galaxy s is running android? I have to say that the Galaxy S is looking SO good so far that I might get it and just deal with the lack of updates - probably regret it but what choice is there?
I know, I know that there will always be "better" and "faster" when it comes to tech like this but don't you think that 1GHz is about *finally* the sweetspot for running stuff nice and fluid on a smartphone? I mean my comp here at home is a Core 2 Duo and I can't tell *any* difference between this and the similarly specced Core i3 at work for everyday tasks. In the same way, even if a 1.5Ghz phone comes out after the Galaxy S (which isn't due to arrive later in the year anyway) - even though we'd all want a faster phone, staying with 1ghz aint going to be too shabby, is it? The Hero I think is *just* slightly on the wrong side of slow when it comes to speed. Maybe the Legend fixes that - I haven't tried one - and wouldn't want to now some incredible phones are on the way.
Anyway - if I don't get the Galaxy S, what do you guys think is the best alternative given my contract expires at the end of this Spetember? Any announcements been made about the Evo4g or some other super quick phone?
Also - no one's really mentioned but if i DO get the Galaxy S, how likely is it that I'll be able to root it and install custom Roms or updated custom roms in the fullness of time? Does the community in general only tweak with HTC phones?
Thanks again!

Samsung does update some of their Android phones. It's just that they are slow and they have not update them all.
History of updates of Samsung Android phones (may not be exhaustive):
Moment (M900) : 1.5 -> 2.1
Galaxy Spica/Portal (i5700) : 1.5 -> 2.1
Behold 2 (T-939): 1.5 -> update to 2.1 approved and should be coming soon
Samsung Galaxy (i7500) : NO update to 2.x (phone released 6-7/2009)
It remains to be seen how many of the above will get an update to 2.2, if any.

HTC Evo 4G vs Samsung Galaxy S (Galaxy has better CPU?)

I never thought I'd say this, but I was under the impression that Samsung's new lineup would be using their own OS (Bada) rather than Android...I've now heard different and done some snooping.
I've hated Samsung phones, but OMG...
http://alienbabeltech.com/main/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Cellphonehardwarecompari1.png
Just take a look at that!!!
I've got another two weeks that I can return my Evo...should I keep it or wait for Galaxy S?
I mean just look at that - less power consumption, AMOLED screen, much faster GPU, faster RAM
I just got this Evo and I feel like something better is already coming out...

Dude I'm in the same boat as you I just got it and I heard about the galaxy s but after doing more research it seems like my evo is already outdated in some aspects by the galaxy s. I heard rumors its gonna be on t-mobile too and I canceled my contract with them to get the evo. But as I said its better only in a few ways. I wanna see reviews for it but by the time the galaxy s is out I won't be able to return the evo. I'm in a dilemma especially after the problems with the evo like battery life subpar 8 megapixel camera and 720p video and the 30 fps cap (that one gets me pissed) .- I wonder what other ppl at xda have to say- imma be watching this thread.

im returning my evo for the samsung galaxy s pro (with qwerty keyboard) for sprint.

I'm also very interested in the Galaxy. I love the Evo but the screen problem has got me thinking twice and I'm not too happy with how thick the Evo feels to me compared to my HD2. I understand that the Galaxy has a CPU with the same clock speed but tests have shown it to perform better along with the GPU as mentioned. The much slimmer profile sounds very good to me and the lack of a camera flash is a letdown but one I could live with.
Samsung is known for not supporting their phones after release but they have confirmed that the Galaxy will be updated with Froyo. On 2G the battery is rated for talk time longer than the iPhone 4G and is of course replaceable. Also 16GB built-in + add a 32GB micro sd card and you have more storage than nearly any smartphone.
Here is the best review (9 pages) I've found on the Galaxy:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9000_galaxy_s-review-478.php

true the galaxy s has some great specs..
but you might want to do a little research on the Samsung support on thier phones. from what I have seen... it is a very big issue. they tend to push out great spec phones and then move on to the next phone to develop; and forget the old.
some times it is not just the specs. how the parts add and give you over all total performance. From reading on other phones.. (ex: hero vs moment).

But it's a Samsung...
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Dan330 said:
true the galaxy s has some great specs..
but you might want to do a little research on the Samsung support on thier phones. from what I have seen... it is a very big issue. they tend to push out great spec phones and then move on to the next phone to develop; and forget the old.
some times it is not just the specs. how the parts add and give you over all total performance. From reading on other phones.. (ex: hero vs moment).
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G1toEVO4G said:
im returning my evo for the samsung galaxy s pro (with qwerty keyboard) for sprint.
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That's better than htc who puts out phones with glaring problems and then stops supporting them. I haven't had an htc Pune since the tilt. I was hoping they had changed so I could get an evo, but apparently they haven't. I'm liking the galaxy s pro right now.

Dan330 said:
true the galaxy s has some great specs..
but you might want to do a little research on the Samsung support on thier phones. from what I have seen... it is a very big issue. they tend to push out great spec phones and then move on to the next phone to develop; and forget the old.
some times it is not just the specs. how the parts add and give you over all total performance. From reading on other phones.. (ex: hero vs moment).
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LOL....
True, but HTC's record is just as pathetic.
We'll see when we will have a bug fix release and maybe in 10 months Froyo...

The Galaxy is nice, but if you like the developing and deep hacking and customizing.
HTC is the way to go.

yeah you guys are right - i know samsungs phones tend to sound good on paper and turn out not that great after all. happened a couple of times before. wanted to love their phones, but just couldnt.
besides the galaxy s looks pretty ugly compared to the evo

ok is it me or does this thing REALLY look like an iphone clone? Don't get me wrong the specs are good, but that Touchwiz overlay is a huge negative for me. In addition the only advantages I see the Galaxy S as having is the internal storage (which doesn't matter to me because I haven't even filled up my 16gb card half way yet, so an extra 8/16gb of storage doesn't excite me), the screen resolution (I'd rather have less resolution and a larger screen though), and the processor (same clock speed but faster gpu, seeing as I don't do an extensive amount of gaming on my phone I couldn't careless about that. Not to mention the gaming I do with games such as Gangstar and Nova, which are 3d environments, run perfectly fine). The disadvantages for me would be: lack of 4g (I get great 4g coverage here in Atlanta and also get good speeds on it 4-8megs), lack of camera flash, does not come with flash (you will have to wait until froyo, or install a custom rom to do any browsing that involves flash), and below average speakerphone. The phone looks like a decent phone but it does not have enough advantages for me to make a switch. Just my opinion.

I'll pass on the samsung. I'm really not digging their skinning either. With their post support issues I think I'd rather deal with apple and the iphone or motorola and their new high end droid. That said I'm not going to go and get raped by verizon, I don't want to get raped by at&t either and I'm happy with my evo.

HTC 4-LIFE
anyhow the samsung does look nice. but its still not an HTC

mysterioustko said:
ok is it me or does this thing REALLY look like an iphone clone? Don't get me wrong the specs are good, but that Touchwiz overlay is a huge negative for me. In addition the only advantages I see the Galaxy S as having is the internal storage (which doesn't matter to me because I haven't even filled up my 16gb card half way yet, so an extra 8/16gb of storage doesn't excite me), the screen resolution (I'd rather have less resolution and a larger screen though), and the processor (same clock speed but faster gpu, seeing as I don't do an extensive amount of gaming on my phone I couldn't careless about that. Not to mention the gaming I do with games such as Gangstar and Nova, which are 3d environments, run perfectly fine). The disadvantages for me would be: lack of 4g (I get great 4g coverage here in Atlanta and also get good speeds on it 4-8megs), lack of camera flash, does not come with flash (you will have to wait until froyo, or install a custom rom to do any browsing that involves flash), and below average speakerphone. The phone looks like a decent phone but it does not have enough advantages for me to make a switch. Just my opinion.
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I agree about the looks! It looks way too much like an iPhone and the UI screenshots don't make it look any better. But have you seen the long demo video on YouTube? I forget which one it was, but I have to admit I was pretty impressed by the way it all flowed and this is coming from a guy who loves HTC Sense.
For someone like me, the extra 16GB would mean that I could ditch my iPod 160GB Classic and just have one device (I like to keep all my music and audiobooks on one device). Also reported by a few different blogs, the Galaxy screen is better and the hummingbird is reported too as being faster than the snapdragon in our Evos. And I guess I'm alone in this, but the super slim profile is a huge plus to me. But that back cover is pretty ugly. I'd really just like to demo this thing myself, with my Evo in hand and then decide. I'd also like to do the same with the iPhone 4G. These devices coming out on different dates, sure does making the choice making that much harder.........

man look how responsive it is!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnOHlx0BZ2Y&feature=related
frikin amazing
Any ideas what career its going to be on?

toastcfh said:
HTC 4-LIFE
anyhow the samsung does look nice. but its still not an HTC
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You just like HTC because you get to fix whatever is broken. If you buy a Motorola or Samsung you have nothing to fix

denny_1986 said:
man look how responsive it is!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnOHlx0BZ2Y&feature=related
frikin amazing
Any ideas what career its going to be on?
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I keep reading different carriers. Samsung has said they want the device to be on every carrier in every country and so if that holds true then it will be on all but my question is who will have it first late this month or next month as reported. I have seen some screenshots, showing T-Mobile account data on a Galaxy screen, but now I'm hearing Verizon and ATT as well.......

timgt said:
You just like HTC because you get to fix whatever is broken. If you buy a Motorola or Samsung you have nothing to fix
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bahahaahh not entirely true about motorla and samsung but still funny ahah

timgt said:
You just like HTC because you get to fix whatever is broken. If you buy a Motorola or Samsung you have nothing to fix
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naw i like them because they build quality devices and have awesome customer support. i feel they do things right for the most part. i bet after u get done waiting for root on the samsung ull be trying to fix just as many things. also xda and all the other dev communities for HTC devices are well rounded and have a major following. HTC has been spiting out awesome devices for a long time. ive been hooked since my Axim X50v. that was back in 03

toastcfh said:
HTC 4-LIFE
anyhow the samsung does look nice. but its still not an HTC
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I'm with you all the way on it, i like how motorola designed the droid X but not their software, and I wouldn't get a motorola anyways.

Nexus One vs. Galaxy S (T-Mobile USA)

The only difference I see is the .3 size increase in the screen. Anything else different? Thanks

Well apparently the N1 now officially has 2.2. I'd say that's a pretty big feature.

Yea, but the Galaxy S will also have 2.2 ... Its already been rooted by Paul...

The Galaxy has a Hummingbird GPU, which is more powerful than the Adreno the Nexus has. Actually I believe it is the best out of all the Android devices.

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Well apparently the N1 now officially has 2.2. I'd say that's a pretty big feature.
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Semi-officially...?
http://www.androidguys.com/2010/06/28/google-testing-froyo-builds-frf83-final-release/

i think the jump from the N1 to the Galaxy is nice but more so for someone who wants to have the next best thing, because I'm certainly happy with my N1 with no hurry to purchase a new phone. My brother on the other hand has a blackberry and would like to try something else so i feel its a bigger jump for him then someone with current specs on a phone.

The Galaxy S does not have LED Flash.

Front facing camera
Lack of Camera Flash
Screen if closer to glass
Better GPU

It also has a better screen .... super amoled and real multitouch (like that matters since I don't play games on My phone

How about....it's not running stock Android, so it will take forever to get updates... If it gets updates at all. This is Samsung we're talking about. Anyone remember that Behold II? It's finally getting upgraded... to 1.6. I'd also want to know the details on whether any of the Google services have been replaced by Yahoo, as I had read a couple of months back on Samsung phones.

JCopernicus said:
Front facing camera
Lack of Camera Flash
Screen if closer to glass
Better GPU
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No front camera on TMOUS version

bskballa92 said:
No front camera on TMOUS version
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Oof, forgot there are like 93 variations of that phone.

JCopernicus said:
Oof, forgot there are like 93 variations of that phone.
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Well there is only 1 good version (pro), the other 4 are gimped beyond belief.

1. Galaxy has significantly better media playback. (mkv,divx,xvid ect)
2. Twice as fast 3D performance. (2x FPS in games)
3. Better and bigger screen. (Super Amoled + bigger ! )
4. Screen has flawless multi touch capability ! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVlsRCMltDg

Why in the hell would T-Mo not attempt to push a technologically superior device? I just don't get it....Verizon, Sprint and the DeathStar(at&t) all entice customers with very good devices.... After reading the Tmo Vibrant specs I have no motivation to ditch my Nexus One at all. Actually I'm more inclined to get a HD2 and hack Froyo onto it.

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It also has a better screen .... super amoled and real multitouch (like that matters since I don't play games on My phone
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Yeah the screen and gpu are the biggies in my book. Of course, nexus will be made with a tft LCD (I'm sure I butchered itsbreal make) instead of ****ty amoled soon so maybe the gpu will end up being the main attraction. Whatever I just hope there's a nexus two planned for the future

I do like it's name but will be hanging on to my Nexus for a while

the Galaxy S looks like an iphone from afar ....don't like the external looks

smot13 said:
Well there is only 1 good version (pro), the other 4 are gimped beyond belief.
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Uh.. Seriously? Gimped? I too have no idea why they'd not include a FFcamera but being the bad ass phone it is spec wise, could no way in any shape or form consider it gimped lol... Jesus christ. I would only consider maybe a motoblur device gimped... or possibly the htc aria "gimped" a small fraction. Nevermind.
Only one good version? So this version isn't "good"? Please stop.

Galaxy S or...... ??

guys,
my HD2 Died the other day. lucky for me i had an insurance on the phone so now ik can chose any other one (within budget) and the galaxy s got my mind along with the desire, nexus one and iphone 4.
so can anyone convince me why i should buy the galaxy s and not the rest of them, or even a new HD2 ???
also, how is the s amoled ? is it that much better then normal lcd/amoled ??

It really depends in what YOU like most. The best features of the Galaxy S is the Super AMOLED screen that REALLY stands out, it is much better readeble than the others in the sun and is less power hungry! Also it has the best processor of them all (don't know about the processor of Iphone4 though). It won all benchmarks with a good margin against snapdragon. The Desire is good if you want a Nexus one with Sense UI. Nexus One is the best if you want the newest updates from android as fast as possible. And Iphone4, well... Get it if you want an Iphone, but I like android better .

well i dont like apple that much, just the specs of the iphone 4 are great.. thats the only thing.. i dont care about interfaces or updates that much, i want a fast and stable telefoon, if i dont like the interface il put a new rom on it or something..

The SGS is currently the fastest there is, and the strongest.
1GHZ Hummingbird, it's pretty much the same processor in the iPhone 4, but SGX540 GPU vs the iPhone's 535... it's really no contest, the 540 is a hell of a lot stronger.
If it's specs you care about, one SGS to rule them all.

Pika007 said:
If it's specs you care about, one SGS to rule them all.
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how about the ram ? read something about the ram being an internal SD card and it was pretty slow, or is that on extreem events ?

I have just made the jump from the Hd2 to the Galaxy s. I think that the Galaxy s really is a better product. The screen, on board memory, android ect, and it just works, I really would recommend this phone. I was abit unsure about android having never used it before and always being a windows mobile stalwart, but I really, really like it. its certainly the best phone I have ever owned, you wont be dissapointed. even the price is good

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I have just made the jump from the Hd2 to the Galaxy s. I think that the Galaxy s really is a better product. The screen, on board memory, android ect, and it just works, I really would recommend this phone. I was abit unsure about android having never used it before and always being a windows mobile stalwart, but I really, really like it. its certainly the best phone I have ever owned, you wont be dissapointed. even the price is good
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i get 600 euro's back from insurance, and the shop wich i have to spend it at asks 600 euro's for the galaxy s 16 gb so thats perfect. well..
thanks for the info all, think the Galaxy is the phone its gonna be

Good choice mate! Mine is on its way too.

The thing some people don't mention is, while the screen on the Galaxy S is stunning, things like text, especially the regular black/white variety looks grainy compared to regular LCD's like on the HD2. It can be quite jarring until you get used to it.

Is it really that much of an issue???
Tachikoma_kun said:
The thing some people don't mention is, while the screen on the Galaxy S is stunning, things like text, especially the regular black/white variety looks grainy compared to regular LCD's like on the HD2. It can be quite jarring until you get used to it.
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I keep reading about this as of late. If this is such a big issue, why aren't there any tech blog reviews stating this? I believe you and the others, but why is it not mentioned more often. One would assume that the SGS vs iPhone 4 debate would have mentioned this a million times, in a strike against the SGS. This is one reason I'm considering not waiting for the Verizon SGS (best looking version of them all) and either sticking with my Evo or jumping to the iPhone although I'm having a hard time with the thought of leaving Android after I just got here and loving it.

Tachikoma_kun said:
The thing some people don't mention is, while the screen on the Galaxy S is stunning, things like text, especially the regular black/white variety looks grainy compared to regular LCD's like on the HD2. It can be quite jarring until you get used to it.
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well, the HD2 screen really came short when watching a movie, i got the X1 with Hangcock on SD-Card and when i played it on the HD2 it wasnt as good on the X1. but if its only small things like text on the galaxy s i think ill get over that

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well, the HD2 screen really came short when watching a movie, i got the X1 with Hangcock on SD-Card and when i played it on the HD2 it wasnt as good on the X1. but if its only small things like text on the galaxy s i think ill get over that
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I still have an HD2 and when I play the Transformers movies that came with it, it looks perfect as in HD like perfect. Then I tested a film that I had ripped myself and it didn't look as good.

Christmas miracle :')

Two days ago operator made me an offer of any smartphone for free, I narrowed it down to the most expensive hehe: Iphone 4, Desire HD or a sgs and don't know which to buy. This is a once time deal I can't wait for dual cores and whatever else comes out next year I need to reach a decision this week.
What should I buy? I have seen and used all OSs . The only thing I like about the ios is the app store, I generally dislike Apple and Idrones.
I'm relatively tech savvy (in the non-douchy kinda way xD
Except some minor annoyances here and there I love android. Can any one give some advice? Thx and ho ho ho

iPhones kinda nice but not as much for the geek in you.
HD Desire ??
SGS awesome phone. Too bad they're blowing up left right and center.
Android app store is choke full of goodies and I've found cool stuff my bro can't get on his iphone4

Imo the SGS, the screen is just beautiful and the processor is a monster compared to the Desire HD and iPhone 4 is just not my cup of tea.

SGS will most likely be more optimised after Nexus S is release, I realy think it's already fast and powerfull, and it will only get better!
Camera is amazing and Night mode is franckly pretty amazing, you'd get more than what you can see!
HD Videos is pretty good also!
Sync is all with your GMail account, so pretty simple and straight forward. You can sync your outlook with GMail if needed.
And if you need to access the files on the device, the USB can be mounted so it's pretty fast to transfer things.
Only down I can see on the SGS is the "sometime" flawing GPS, not all the time but can be anoying sometimes :|

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SGS awesome phone. Too bad they're blowing up left right and center.
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Say whaat?

I think you should go for the Desire HD. It's got 768 MB of RAM vs. the 340 MB available (out of a claimed 512 MB) on the SGS. And it's got a bigger screen, almost an equally powerful processor, very snappy, and it's already got 2.3 Gingerbread.
If you need a powerhouse for games, SGS is the way to go though. Nothing matches it's GPU at the moment.

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I think you should go for the Desire HD. It's got 768 MB of RAM vs. the 340 MB available (out of a claimed 512 MB) on the SGS. And it's got a bigger screen, almost an equally powerful processor, very snappy, and it's already got 2.3 Gingerbread.
If you need a powerhouse for games, SGS is the way to go though. Nothing matches it's GPU at the moment.
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but i hear the battery wont hold me the entire day thats kinda important for me
and how does it have gingerbread ? the nexus s isnt even out yet i assume its just ripped from the emulator

calexus1182 said:
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The internal SDCards are crapping out...

hmmm isnt that becouse of the ****ty samsung filesystem and/or bad kernel
and should i be concerned about only 339 ram?

Buy the iPhone 4, sell it for $600-$800 off contract, buy whatever phone you want. Personally I'd says Desire HD simply because Sense is much better than Touchwiz and it has the Sense.com features (free remote wipe, GPS tracking, text through phone through website, etc). However, the battery is kind of weak so I'd recommend a bigger one if you can find one.

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but i hear the battery wont hold me the entire day thats kinda important for me
and how does it have gingerbread ? the nexus s isnt even out yet i assume its just ripped from the emulator
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They ported it from Nexus One to Evo, and Desire HD is basically a variant of Evo

Damm I'm more confused now than when I started...
Iphone: don't really like how it feels in my hand, really small screen, absolutely no customization whatsoever.
good things: apps, no major bugs and better shades of blue lol.
Desire HD: seems to have the worst hardware out of the three (cpu and gpu) piece if crap battery, seems if it falls once is over, ****ty battery and sim cover and imo the camera that sticks out like the evo is really effing ugly
Good things: most ram out of the three, htcsense.com, biggest screen (preferences but I think 4" is perfect)
SGS: plagued by software bugs apparently, random data corruption, no flash, needs most tweaking out of the box
Good things: best screen cpu & gpu, the nexus s is almost the same phone which means better development porting the works(here's hoping) and best battery life
By comparison seems that the sgs wins overall categories

Its easy. If you want the best smartphone the its sgs.
Iphone is not as good many say.
I did have one and i did sell it.
Iphone has more good games. That's the only good with it.
The rest is much better with sgs.
HD phone is not better either.
It has more serious flaw then both sgs and iphone together.
Sgs is a powerhouse and it got the best screen of all phones.
Sure sgs can be laggy out of the box, but that is easy to fix.
So right now there is not a phone that's has anything to compete with.
The sgs will win it all the time.
**Using my own JPU kernel, z4mod, 339MB Ram and ext2 filesystem**

My father has an iphone3g and my uncle has the iphone 4 I jailbreaked it for him honestly I wasn't that impressed with the phone. The only thing I like about it is the apps mainly the games are much more refined than on android phones
Also why has the sgs only have 340ram ? On every page I looked it says 512. Will that bite us on the ass later I mean the dhd almost has 800 and phones are moving on 1gb .are you telling me the sgs has as much ram as my old ass hero?

calexus said:
Also why has the sgs only have 340ram ? On every page I looked it says 512. Will that bite us on the ass later I mean the dhd almost has 800 and phones are moving on 1gb .are you telling me the sgs has as much ram as my old ass hero?
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It does use a 512MB chip, but only ~340MB of it is visible after you're booted up. Out of the other ~172MB, there's around 40MB that's unaccounted for (we don't know where its being used) and the rest of it is "reserved" (even when the functions it's reserved for are not in use) for stuff like video playback, 3G calling etc.
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I'd have to say i agree with Product F(RED)
Desire HD is the best phone on the list IMHO. But getting the ipoop and selling on will mean you can get the HD desire and still have some cash in your pocket

sgs is the best (imho!) it's a pain out of the box but that's why we love it so much, let's face it, most of us like tweaking and playing with our phones, it's half the fun. Flashing new roms, installing different lagfixes, uninstalling new roms, uninstalling new lagfixes, whoops I've broken it, nope, it's going again. The sgs is a geeks wet dream and in my experience it is very difficult to fully brick.
So if you want a phone that you are going to have to fiddle with, get the sgs. Jpu seems to have ironed out a lot of problems, I get perfect gps now, although it was pretty good before. I'm actually a little disapointed that jpu works so well, it kinda takes the fun out of it all
If this doesn't appeal to you then get the hd, it's a good phone, screen is not as good and it doesn't feel as fast as my tweaked sgs, but overall it's definitely a winner and you won't be disapointed
The iphone is also a good phone and not to be sniffed at, if you don't mind being spoon fed by apple.

i have to say SGS, because of the most powerful hardware, software is not important, because we can fix that easy , as surprise Samsung also tries there best, i think with JPU Firmware they show that they are willing todo everything, Hardware we can't fix, SGS has currently the fastest CPU + GPU specially the GPU!!!!! is amazing, why do you think Google went with Nexus S , because of Hardware, Speed, Quality, Availability.......
Nexus S and Android 2.3 Gingerbread was made to give game developers the best available Hardware and with Gingerbread many things which will make Game development easier and because of the CPU + GPU, which is almost the same as Iphone 4 has (SGS a little bit better), it will also make porting games from iphone to android pretty easy now.
About HTC Sense i agree it is a nice homescreen, but on the other hand it is a memory, cpu and battery monster! why do you think they have 768MB Memory and if we look at different homescreen replacements (ADW, Laucher Pro, Zeam,.......), then i really don't see the big advantage at all, but thats a taste decission
So for me i have to say i am very happy that i went with the SGS, i really can't understand users who say that the SGS is built cheap, i have the SGS now since the beginning, i don't use a screenprotector, the plastic is thin but it still looks like new also after falling on the floor (shame on me), compared to my previous HTC Units which where loosing color on there great metal casing and not by falling on the floor but because i used a leather case, the signal was often a issue for me (metal), dust was behind the screen after a short time,........
I have to say that the Samsung Hardware is such an improvement compared to HTC that i won't anytime soon look back to any HTC unit even if it would have a killler hardware.
But that are just my 2 cents on it

Go for the iPhone 4 unless you really need flash. It has the best screen of the three(the pentile matrix of the SGS is just horrible) and works correctly out of the box.

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Go for the iPhone 4 unless you really need flash. It has the best screen of the three(the pentile matrix of the SGS is just horrible) and works correctly out of the box.
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Care to elaborate on this? The iphone does have a gorgeous screen, but to call the sgs screen horrible is a bit like saying that Angelina Jolie is a dog. Sure there are better looking girls out there than her, but would you kick her out of bed? Most definitely not, unless you bat for the other team of coursee, in such a case swap angelina for brad or whom ever floats your boat.