http://blog.xamarin.com/2012/05/01/android-in-c-sharp/
Interesting project
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Oooh that is interesting.
Ive recently learned C#, but dont know jack-**** about java (ok I looked at it, and it didnt look super-different from C# so its probably easy to learn...), so that would be awesome for me
LOL
We all will be porting over EXE in no time LOL
It would be a lot more interesting if it wasn't a big commercial for their overpriced Mono for Android SDK.
Not to mention the not-so-subtle scare tactics they employed in the incipit of the article quoting the Oracle v. Google case (I doubt that the CLR VM is not encumbered by any Java-related IP - at least, that's what Jonathan Schwartz told Gates/Ballmer to scare them away when they tried to strong-arm Sun into entering an IP licensing agreement for OpenOffice).
I'd like to see it run on an Android device. Have them cook up a ROM that does their C# .NET CLR thing instead of Dalvik.
From what I can gather it's sort of an emulator for use in development at the moment?
Personally I was not thinking of roms. I realize android is young and dalvik is young or whatever but they are constantly improving so unless they could show a bench mark with a 200% increase set in stone I wouldn't flinch.
I was personally thinking this could be a great start to porting more things over to android and maybe stealing some apps that would otherwise only run on windows or ios etc
I don't know I just thought it was interesting that the more android grows the more projects like this seem to branch out and make more and more things possible.
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Hello xda devs,
I am a day-1 Android user (good old G1), hobbyst Java developer and good experienced .NET developer.
I am very interested in XobotOS project (https://github.com/xamarin/XobotOS)
Xamarin did a little testing on an HTC Flyer and Acer Iconia Tab, does anyone think that it would be possible to run Xobot on our beloved Nexus S?
blog post from Icaza:
Android Ported to C#
Look , i would help you only because you are italian , like me . We are italian, i am very good with computer but these things I never made
genez81 said:
Hello xda devs,
I am a day-1 Android user (good old G1), hobbyst Java developer and good experienced .NET developer.
I am very interested in XobotOS project (https://github.com/xamarin/XobotOS)
Xamarin did a little testing on an HTC Flyer and Acer Iconia Tab, does anyone think that it would be possible to run Xobot on our beloved Nexus S?
blog post from Icaza:
Android Ported to C#
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I really dont see why not. It being ported to C# should mean less overhead on the device...and our specs certainly arent bad at all. I am actually in the process of switching distros and then I will be setting up the build environment so I can start playing with it.
I'll be the first to admit that i have no idea what i'm doing, but I'm very interested in this concept and may be able to help; I've gotten mostly functional roms CM9 roms to compile for my nexus s 4g before.
So i'm hoping this goes some where and i'll help in what every ways i might be able to. I'm gonna clean up my dev setup and then pull the source from github.
I would say that this helps clear up questions about devices, support and drivers, a little bit.
XobotOS now has experimental multi-device support.
See http://developer.android.com/guide/practices/screens_support.html and
http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/resources/providing-resources.html#AlternativeResources
XobotOS.exe now takes an optional '--device=handheld' or '--device=tablet'
argument to run with a different screen size. This must be given as first
argument, before the assembly:
$ mono --debug ../build/Debug/XobotOS.exe --device=tablet ../build/Debug/Fragments.dll
samples/Fragments demonstrate an app that looks and behaves differently on a
handheld and a tablet.
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Pocker09 said:
I'll be the first to admit that i have no idea what i'm doing, but I'm very interested in this concept and may be able to help; I've gotten mostly functional roms CM9 roms to compile for my nexus s 4g before.
So i'm hoping this goes some where and i'll help in what every ways i might be able to. I'm gonna clean up my dev setup and then pull the source from github.
I would say that this helps clear up questions about devices, support and drivers, a little bit.
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Have the sources, fresh dev environment ...now all I need is the time lol
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genez81 said:
Hello xda devs,
I am a day-1 Android user (good old G1), hobbyst Java developer and good experienced .NET developer.
I am very interested in XobotOS project (https://github.com/xamarin/XobotOS)
Xamarin did a little testing on an HTC Flyer and Acer Iconia Tab, does anyone think that it would be possible to run Xobot on our beloved Nexus S?
blog post from Icaza:
Android Ported to C#
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It would be nice, but most/all apps are coded for Java so they wouldn't work, so unless Google goes for it then we will never see it
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FINALLY C#! a language i can understand instead of all this confusing java
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luciferii said:
FINALLY C#! a language i can understand instead of all this confusing java
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+1! I'm managing to learn about how to make a ROM for my Htc Magic or an Dual Core Android slate. I think it'll be awesome!
PD: Oh, god... what have I done...
yeah that's right, it would mean porting to C# and recompiling applications.
I don't think it's a problem in this phase...
the main problem is:
how to start mono runtime environment instead of standard boot?
I think it would be possible to compile a minimal boot image and a mono binary for Nexus S but I don't have the skills to wrap them up together...
Hi all, today I present to you a very exciting announcement, In late 2012, early 2013. I will be releasing a windows 8 unofficial market. The reason is because microsoft requires developers to pay 50$ Just to submit apps, but the unofficial Market will Have a free submition solution that should please many members, a website will be Released In a week to discuss this new market. I hope to Get lots Of support and I will need it.
Sounds interesting. When more details become available, I think you may gain more interest then, but this is an interesting announcement for sure.
Sounds great but not to burst any bubbles (we know what Microsoft is trying to accomplish with the cloud and access to their platform) Unless we are talking about a way to block Microsoft to uninstall the unapproved apps this annoucement might have to be reviewed.
I agree with OP here but let's exploit the ability to block that feature first.
Cheers!
Good luck...I'm not a programmer but I will support buying just like with android apps.
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I trust you will be vetting everything for malicious or illegal content?
Sounds really interesting,good luck bro.
I was wondering if there are any apps or mods that give the Nexus 7 similar abilities as the Galaxy Note II and it's multi window function. I'm not concerned with having to root as I have already done so for USB access and some of my other apps. Thanks guys and gals.
Seems someone asks this every few weeks. Short answer- no, not possible at this time.
But since nobody comes to xda for the short answer.. here is the long one:
Once upon a time there was a great team of developers who wondered why they could not use a multi-window interface on android. They set out to make that a reality. CM saw the wonderful work they were doing and pledged to support it in their releases. Across the land there was peace and tranquility as developers happily set out coding their ROMs to take advantage of the new functionality. But the evil lord "G" (who totally promised not to be evil) was angered from the ancient land of android's origin and with his great omnipotent voice decreed that no subjects of his kingdom shall be allowed to use the new functionality. The CM developers and those from the cornerstone project were given no choice but to abandon the functionality that they had honed to near-perfection. Shortly after the decree was made by the evil lord, another royal empire "S" (who totally didn't steal that fruit company's designs) convinced the evil lord "G" that they could use the new functionality on specific applications that they themselves would create.
The royal empire "S" then created an entire framework similar to what the cornerstone project was working for, to support their custom applications. All of the functionality of the empire's functions is deeply embedded in the core of the "S" created roms.
Nobody that I know has been able to port the samsung stuff onto any device not made by them. Sorry, hope you enjoyed the story!
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good story
story
Can u please make that into an epic mmo.
Makes wanting TabletUI sort of pointless, doesn't it?
There are apps that work in window like floating browser,floating youtube,super video,air calc..etc.
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Samsung instead of updating my note to JB can u please give us the tizen update. I can see the monopoly of google on smartphones.
U can use the nokia maps if maps are the issue. I want a good working environment on my phone. Not these fragmented files and apps, keyboard hanging, wifi signals droppig randomly, battery issues, clipping and seperate camera apps.
I want u to integrate the basic features like cam, keyboard and home screen within the system. With most of its variables initialized at all times. Not like a seperate apps then starts when i open it requiring time.
Plus make the camera app stripped with just basic shutter click and flash feature with room to integrate the exposure, type of shot, filters and all these seperately installable in the stock app. So we can customize and feature load the same system app. Instead of using instagram and pudding camera.
As with the keyboard make it very simple and run all times with low mem consumption. Most keyboards and even stock keyboard needs 48 mb of ram while running. I think its too much for just a keyboard. Make it simple no loggers no predictions, no skins but make room to incorporate all these things on need.
For browser chrome is no doubt on top but we need fladh support. If google has bad term with adobe i dont think we wants adobe to suffer, they gave us the entertainment for more than a decade and has the potential to do so.
For graphics make the tizen support all platforms. Ask microsoft to let u lisence direct x which they are retiring.
Make new alliance for your new OS. Google already misled us with the word open source. They should have said open customization but i cant change many things on android. Lets say i dont want the home screens i just want the app drawer. We cant make it happen so sorry its no customization.
Also if u want tizen to compete well, load it with compilers and debuggers like the native linux and u will see development on the run for your new platform.
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Love your post :good: everything you said is true, I agree with you.
Actually these android flavors are nothing just a gimmick. Making people buy phones just for an update. Vanilla android update is nothing just a UI tweak in the name of project butter and blah blah blah. Thanks to samsung to give us more features above that android.
Google didnt do anything to make the OS more secure with the updates which is really needed. I have seen a rootkit that lets people scroll through all ur I/O via wifi. More like the wifi tethering in background. We cant even trust all the custom roms, if we are dealing with sensitive mails and other stuff.
Soon people will know that these roms and customization and everything is basically us compromising our data on daily basis.
It will soon get exposed.
So we didnt get what we needed from an OS here.
If we want android UI we will make a launcher or theme to enjoy this experience.
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qazibasit said:
Actually these android flavors are nothing just a gimmick. Making people buy phones just for an update. Vanilla android update is nothing just a UI tweak in the name of project butter and blah blah blah. Thanks to samsung to give us more features above that android.
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When was the last time you had visited planet Earth?
qazibasit said:
Samsung instead of updating my note to JB can u please give us the tizen update. I can see the monopoly of google on smartphones.
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Buy a Tizen phone when it is launched or wait till it is ported to N7000
Monopoly?? I thought Open-Source was antonym to Monopoly hmmm
U can use the nokia maps if maps are the issue. I want a good working environment on my phone. Not these fragmented files and apps, keyboard hanging, wifi signals droppig randomly, battery issues, clipping and seperate camera apps.
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Maps is not an issue. GPS works just fine I get lock within 5 seconds.
WiFi too works fine. WiFi never drops even when I steal it for free in the university. Only time keyboard hung when I was using stock Samsung firmware.
No battery issues here. Have you heard of better battery stats ?
Black Clipping, its a minor issue for me.
Separate camera app - what do you mean ?
I want u to integrate the basic features like cam, keyboard and home screen within the system. With most of its variables initialized at all times. Not like a seperate apps then starts when i open it requiring time.
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Yeah right. But then you would complain why it is sucking down RAM when I am not using it.
Plus make the camera app stripped with just basic shutter click and flash feature with room to integrate the exposure, type of shot, filters and all these seperately installable in the stock app. So we can customize and feature load the same system app. Instead of using instagram and pudding camera.
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I do not understand what you mean.
As with the keyboard make it very simple and run all times with low mem consumption. Most keyboards and even stock keyboard needs 48 mb of ram while running. I think its too much for just a keyboard. Make it simple no loggers no predictions, no skins but make room to incorporate all these things on need.
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Even feature phones like Motorola Rokr E6 and Nokia 5233 have T9 prediction.
If you do not like it, turn it off.
Don't want keyboard skins, use stock Samsung keyboard.
For browser chrome is no doubt on top but we need fladh support. If google has bad term with adobe i dont think we wants adobe to suffer, they gave us the entertainment for more than a decade and has the potential to do so.
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Adobe Flash has discontinued Android, making way for HTML5
For graphics make the tizen support all platforms. Ask microsoft to let u lisence direct x which they are retiring.
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Make new alliance for your new OS. Google already misled us with the word open source. They should have said open customization but i cant change many things on android. Lets say i dont want the home screens i just want the app drawer. We cant make it happen so sorry its no customization
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Its time you gotta become a developer. All the sources are there waiting for you. :good:
Also if u want tizen to compete well, load it with compilers and debuggers like the native linux and u will see development on the run for your new platform.
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What is the meaning of soon?
How do you define soon?
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Monopolizing, just see how selfish google is and not letting the win phone 8 have the google maps. Their maps are good but nokia maps in case google didnt share their maps with samsung.
Google came in mobile industry claiming it just want people to have better experience with google having no interes. In money making. But it seems like soon google will be head to head with its own oems.
Google had little role in android development and the major role is of the developers who are working for no cost to develop this OS.
Today u people are accusing me after 6 months u guys will be packing ur gear and will head to something other than android.
Yes google forces android users to use its services and now bringing all its services under one banner of google plus. Lets say i only use gmail, why are they forcing me to use g+ and gtalk and show my presence there. Sharing my likes and dislikes there. I know why? To make each and every service of their with millions of users.
I have issues with their search, and most people have.
Their negative marketing, with the updates and depriving capable phones to get the updates on their phones for months. To push their nexus devices on us.
Google think they will destroy the x86 platform with their android and thus capture the specialized computing with their android and its tiny apps to make google computing. Its also not going to happen.
Their competitors are not getting their strategy, but i hope samsung and marissa mayers are up to catch with them.
Samsung or other oems should strip the android with google services and should give us alternatives.
Tired of just google google and google. People are making them another microsoft. I am always an open computing guy, not a fan of tech giant driven computing. Soon they will make out data processed on their servers and just displaying us the results. And we will be having just a display with a wifi and an on board OS. I was my own processing powers.
My regards to madam ada lovelace augusta, who taught us the programming, i think its better to play with my raspberry pi rather than banging my head on android.
Yes adobe is not supporting flash on android because of a conflict with google. But there i. a thing called backeard compatibility.
Dsmas we cant define soon with amount of time in tech industry. It could be a day a month or like the microsoft era a decade .
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Today i thought i was going mad. You made me correct this.
By the way what are running, I bet its an android
This forum is so degraded with all these nonsense posts all the time.
I'm kind of fed up with the people who make them.
XDA is a developer forum.
Galaxtus said:
Today i thought i was going mad. You made me correct this.
By the way what are running, I bet its an android
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Obviously i never criticize things without using them. Those htc hd2 times are gone, when intentions to make this platform huge were pure .
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qazibasit said:
Obviously i never criticize things without using them. Those htc hd2 times are gone, when intentions to make this platform huge were pure .
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Then stop Complaining. Why did you buy an android phone in the first place. No platform is perfect. They cant provided a customized rom only for you. If you have such problems be my guest and develop something that you have stated yourself.
In Short - Welcome to REALITY!!!
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Darfus said:
This forum is so degraded with all these nonsense posts all the time.
I'm kind of fed up with the people who make them.
XDA is a developer forum.
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Oh! really. This is also users forum, I hope so.
By the way, are you a developer?
Edit : there are 3 sections android development, original development and themes. You may stick to those sections, if you are concerned with only development.
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Galaxtus said:
Then stop Complaining. Why did you buy an android phone in the first place. No platform is perfect. They cant provided a customized rom only for you. If you have such problems be my guest and develop something that you have stated yourself.
In Short - Welcome to REALITY!!!
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Well complains and criticism leads to improvements. Why do u use custom roms just to get better experience, why do u complain then. Why dont u use the out of box software. U root ur phone, void warrenty all just for betterment and thats what we are trying here. A constructive criticism. If u read the original post its about how samsung could make tizen better. Ha i have made various med calculators and med terminology dictionary for med trnscription people. many people at my hospital are using it. But i cant put it on google play because its not open for dev in my region.
I dont call change in ui development. I call something new as development . If simple change in UI is development windows 8 would be the most innovative os .
Another malware compromising security distributed via play store. This is where work is needed to make it more and more secure, of they want to survive.
http://thenextweb.com/insider/2013/...n-your-pc-uses-your-microphone-to-record-you/
Professional people are fedup and they cant manage this daily tweaking thing. Soon many people will loose interest in flashing cfw.
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qazibasit said:
Well complains and criticism leads to improvements. Why do u use custom roms just to get better experience, why do u complain then. Why dont u use the out of box software. U root ur phone, void warrenty all just for betterment and thats what we are trying here. A constructive criticism. If u read the original post its about how samsung could make tizen better. Ha i have made various med calculators and med terminology dictionary for med trnscription people. many people at my hospital are using it. But i cant put it on google play because its not open for dev in my region.
I dont call change in ui development. I call something new as development . If simple change in UI is development windows 8 would be the most innovative os .
Another malware compromising security distributed via play store. This is where work is needed to make it more and more secure, of they want to survive.
http://thenextweb.com/insider/2013/...n-your-pc-uses-your-microphone-to-record-you/
Professional people are fedup and they cant manage this daily tweaking thing. Soon many people will loose interest in flashing cfw.
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:silly: What is that you want to do. Sue Google. I feel petty to know the level of Android knowledge you have. Goodluck
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U stay with ur concepts and let me speak my mind. My knowledge is with me snd urs with u. If u knoe so much why not make android the way i want tizen to be and i will accept that ur the real guru
Android sum up : a good platform to advertise and to engage and divert users to their web to grt commercials. No security so that data centers can collect individuals data. Some gimmicks for kids to play and make them believe they are enjoying open source.
I guess ur a teen who dont have real use of phone besides flashing and formatting )
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AW: Fedup with this android update issue
qazibasit said:
Monopolizing, just see how selfish google is and not letting the win phone 8 have the google maps. Their maps are good but nokia maps in case google didnt share their maps with samsung.
Google came in mobile industry claiming it just want people to have better experience with google having no interes. In money making. But it seems like soon google will be head to head with its own oems.
Google had little role in android development and the major role is of the developers who are working for no cost to develop this OS.
Today u people are accusing me after 6 months u guys will be packing ur gear and will head to something other than android.
Yes google forces android users to use its services and now bringing all its services under one banner of google plus. Lets say i only use gmail, why are they forcing me to use g+ and gtalk and show my presence there. Sharing my likes and dislikes there. I know why? To make each and every service of their with millions of users.
I have issues with their search, and most people have.
Their negative marketing, with the updates and depriving capable phones to get the updates on their phones for months. To push their nexus devices on us.
Google think they will destroy the x86 platform with their android and thus capture the specialized computing with their android and its tiny apps to make google computing. Its also not going to happen.
Their competitors are not getting their strategy, but i hope samsung and marissa mayers are up to catch with them.
Samsung or other oems should strip the android with google services and should give us alternatives.
Tired of just google google and google. People are making them another microsoft. I am always an open computing guy, not a fan of tech giant driven computing. Soon they will make out data processed on their servers and just displaying us the results. And we will be having just a display with a wifi and an on board OS. I was my own processing powers.
My regards to madam ada lovelace augusta, who taught us the programming, i think its better to play with my raspberry pi rather than banging my head on android.
Yes adobe is not supporting flash on android because of a conflict with google. But there i. a thing called backeard compatibility.
Dsmas we cant define soon with amount of time in tech industry. It could be a day a month or like the microsoft era a decade .
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Sorry but you are writing nonesense here. My Note is rooted and I have successfully removed Google+, the native email and Gmail clients, Google search, the whole social media crap... The only thing from Google you actully have to use is the Google account for purchasing apps and synch your contacts and calendar. But not even that is necessary. You can get your apps from other markets like Android pit or Amazon, there are also dedicated open source markets. And you don't need to synch your data with Google. There are various companies that provide their own synch services like Webis, the enterprise that offers Pocketinformant. Or you can simply backup your contacts and calendar using one of the different software solutions out there. So tell me, where is the dependency your are fantasizing about?
Your post is utterly irrational. You accuse Google and it's Android os of beeing monopolized and closed, forcing its users to use services they don't want to use. But you are demanding Tizen os, a software completely written, designed and thus owned by Samsung. If you had Tizen on your phone, Samsung could do whatever they want with it's services, software... you would have a closed ecosystem like iOS and Windows Phone. Nice prospect isn't it?
Do you know what it is that you actually want? Next time please use your brain and do some rational thinking before posting something that by itself does not make any sense at all.
Oh and before I forget about it. You are claiming Google has not developed Android. If it has not been Google, who do you think has written all the code all the different Android versions consist of? The developers at xda? You? Santa and his elves? Rudolf the red nosed reindeer? Do you think you can simply take Linux load it onto a phone and bang you have got Android? I really look forward to getting an answer to that question from you
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altae said:
Sorry but ...
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...question from you
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You sir, have won todays internets. Great post.
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qazibasit, if you want to complain about Android do it here -->> http://source.android.com/community/index.html
XDA is for developers, not complainers.
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