Sat Nav - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps

Hello...
Done a good search and found some useful info but can anyone recommend a free sat nav to use.
Got TomTom on my HTC Touch Pro2 and downloaded a free map but only for one city. Could do with the whole of the UK but find it a bit extreme to pay £35 for it.
Seen iGo but again the price seems too steep.
Any help would be great.

There are a TON of satnav programs. All the good ones with really good interfaces will cost you though.
Bing just released a new version of their program that has turn by turn navigation. That's probably the best "free" navigation program out there right now for windows mobile I'd say.

Vodafone have issued a free satnav program, but it needs a data connection to download the maps

Aaron McCarthy said:
There are a TON of satnav programs. All the good ones with really good interfaces will cost you though.
Bing just released a new version of their program that has turn by turn navigation. That's probably the best "free" navigation program out there right now for windows mobile I'd say.
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I believe the Bing only works in the USA and the OP is in the UK so that won't work for him unless he is going across the pond (and then I shudder to think of the data roaming charges).

Thanks guys, i am with Vodafone too - will see what its like. That BING sounds interesting but as it has been mentioned already i am in the glorious UK

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GPS Software

Does the T-Mobile Ameo come with any sat-nav software?
Thanks in advance.
HI,
The T-Mobile Ameo version in the Netherlands does not have any GPS software.
dpbakker said:
HI,
The T-Mobile Ameo version in the Netherlands does not have any GPS software.
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OK, thanks for your quick reply
jamestrice said:
Does the T-Mobile Ameo come with any sat-nav software?
Thanks in advance.
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All T-mobile Ameos around the world will NOT come with GPS software pre-installed...only HTC Advantage as far as I know.
Can you use the gps and use google maps to track your location in real time? Can someone try this and see if it works?
Thanks.
I'm jealous you guys have it already, I am goin to wait for the advantage.
fpbiii said:
Can you use the gps and use google maps to track your location in real time? Can someone try this and see if it works?
Thanks.
I'm jealous you guys have it already, I am goin to wait for the advantage.
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Never tried google maps sorry, but when I get a chance I'll look into it...do you have a link to google maps info and application download? Don't really know how it works either.
As I resently found out: TomTom just check for the Athena String. So you can do following:
Grab a Friend who uses a licensed Version of TomTom Navigator 6
Copy his Card to e.g. Microdrive (I would recommend, to use a SD-Card, as bumbs on the road will stess the MD to much)
Remove those Map-Folders from your copy (Western Europe, or Country Name)
Push the card into your slot, or start via explorer on your Ameo the Start.exe.
This will install TomTom and on first startup, well, it will present you a voucher for a citymap of your choice. Here you go with your new licensed software of tomtom......
You may later on buy additional maps as you need. from single cities to western europe or other parts of this blue planet.
according to TomTom this is fine,and by intend, as long as you do not copy Maps licensed to a different device.
This possibly do not apply to all customized OEM-ware. But T-Mobile is registered Distributor of TOMTOM. That might be a reason .....
My HTC X7500 bought through Mobile Planet came with a software disc that includes TomTom Navigator 6 and a bunch of junks on it. I don't intend to use TomTom Navigator 6 so if any one wants to buy it, please let me know. TomTom Navigator 6 is sold for $149.99 but you can have it for half the price. The seal of the sotware disc is still unbroken so you know it's has not been activated on my HTC X7500.
I "believe" what you have is that standard DEMO disc. It will give you one local map with the option to "purchase" others...The "Full" version for $149.99 includes the Entire US and Canada!
OK... Good to know that the whole disc is full of junks. I'm glad I wasn't charged for TomTom Navigator 6 when I bought my HTC X7500. So they charge $100 more than the HTC X7501 just for the front camera? I can buy a good real camera for $100. On other note... why the hell does every body say HTC X7500 comes with TomTom Navigator 6? What a bunch of morons!!! A demo disc of TomTom Navigator 6 doesn't mean the HTC X7500 comes with it!!!!
Reference Google Maps.
T Mobile Ameo - Flashed with PK3.0 and Radio 1.50
Installed Google Maps for Mobiles.
and Tracked GPS worked.
Settings on track locations settings :
SET MANUALLY - Checked.
COM4
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kindest regards Aamir.
GPS Software GISRUSSA with HTC X7500 (7501)
Anyone use the GPS Software "GISRUSSA" with HTC X7500 (7501)?
link http://www.gisrussa.com/
I recently bought Garmin Mobile XT for my Ameo, it was £49.95 from Expansys and works a treat! it has traffic info, weather, speed cameras etc, nice and easy to use and easy to install, I well pleased with it!
squilla said:
I recently bought Garmin Mobile XT for my Ameo, it was £49.95 from Expansys and works a treat! it has traffic info, weather, speed cameras etc, nice and easy to use and easy to install, I well pleased with it!
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Does it have over legal speed limit warning? If so,does it have facility for user to self enter legal speed limit of any portion of a road, where the map data is incomplete?
google maps will track AND route you
eaglesteve said:
Does it have over legal speed limit warning? If so,does it have facility for user to self enter legal speed limit of any portion of a road, where the map data is incomplete?
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I have only been around locally so far so i am not sure about the speed limit thing, I will get back to you on it when I have taken it out for a proper run.

Just purchased a GPS receiver for my Hermes - Does anyone know

Hi folkes
I've just purchased a GPS (bluetooth) receiver for my Hermes/SPVm3100 and I was wondering what good software there is out there that I can get/use to make the most of it.
I've got Google maps and Live search which both work really well finding locations with GPS but would like something else/better.
Any comments much appreciated
Regards
JON
I would have to recommend TomTom - it's probably a predictable response, but for a reason
I've tried Navigon and really didn't like - I couldn't find an easy way to browse the map and just find the place I wanted to go to and it ran a bit slow for my taste.
TomTom is the only choice in my opinion (though, the iGO software looks quite cool too but i don't think there's any UK maps as yet
Cheers,
Smiffy.
The best software are : TomTom, I-Go and Route66
Check them out and pick one that suites you the best
P.S. Don`t get me wrong but this has nothing to do with WM6, this should be in Hermes General IMHO
another vote for tomtom. i like route66 but the map size is huge, compared to tomtom
Which GPS receiver did you get..and do you like it or have any issues with it? Just curious..
I'm using TomTom. It's pretty good.
Hi,
A nod towards Tomtom, i tried a couple of others forgot what, but nothing was as nice to use as tomtom. (despite its anoyances... why can't i decide how far to zoom in, why must tomtom decide it knows best a few seconds after i have set my desired zoom level... "bad tomtom!! bad!"
If you want to use your hemres for off road navigations
(walking, cycling, hiking that kinda thing)
anquet is very good. Its a digital version of the proper Ordiance survey maps, you can now buy it online for just the area you want and download the maps. I wouldn't recomend it instead of a propper map, as a flat battery could leave you stranded but as an extra its fantastic!!!!!
auto centering and tracking 1:25K maps are really nice for hiking off.
(bit pricey though.)
One vote for iGuidance Been using iGuidance for 2 years, version 2 and now i'm on v. 3. They just released v4. But i'm in the US.
my vote is for iguidance v3... just wish it had the traffic feature of tomtom6... tomtom for me lags and has made me miss a turn or 2, but its also got me out of a few traffic jams...
TOM TOM 6 DOES the job for me the maps take up some room but it works 100 percent with wm6
My vote is TomTom as well.
I tried a couple others and they looked like toys compared to TomTom
tomtom is the most used mapping app, it has the best support and features available like pois extra voices but you should be aware there is a known freezing bug on most hermes configs.
iNav v4.0 is completely compatible with WM6 on the 8525. It's been a good prog and v4 added TextToSpeech and more compressed maps. This is US version, don't know of it's Euro version status.
My vote is for iGuidance v3. I've used TomTom 6 but the Maps were really outdated here in Florida. Plus I had issues getting TomTom to pick up my OnCourse GPS. iGuidance worked flawlessly and had a friendlier user interface.
I've had no freeze issue since i went to version 6.0.30
BUT the mute issue is anoying me!
Iguidance is only available for North America mapping isn't it?
TomTom its the best, i tried igo, route66, ndrive, and TomTom, rules.....
Go for it
If you need help, ask me!
I use Tomtom 6. Very easy to use, nice iterface. I won't say I never get a crash, but the crash is usually when turning it on or exiting - it has not let me down mid journey.
Mike
If you can afford it TomTom is very good.. but also worth a look is Smart2GO (I know its Nokia owned but there's a Windows Mobile version)
It uses more up to date maps than TomTom (IMHO), is totally free.. has free updates of any map anytime you want it (updated twice yearly).. full world coverage, maps can be downloaded either via a pc (totally free) or in sections as needed over the air (with data costs of course - but no other charges)
They make the money on addon's.. like navigation by voice which is chargeable (but it works out way way cheaper than TomTom and you can buy a year of UK voice navigation coverage for way less than a single country of TomTom maps.. then when you go on holiday just pay for a week of coverage for that country.. saving a huge amount)
I actually get on well with it and like the fact you can get free map updates whenever you need them.
www.smart2go.com and you can try out the whole lot for free. assuming you dont need voice navigation its free for life.. if you do its dirt cheap.
I am looking for a good set of Scottish/UK maps/application that is wm GPS compatible - designed for walkers/hikers. Tomtom 6 and the likes always tries to jump you onto the nearest road which is pointless if you're on a remote trail.
Mike
I'd look into MemoryMap Mike.. its all Ordenance Survey Licenced maps at varying scales.. and it works fine (is designed for..) for walking/hiking.. It works on WM devices too.. and there are a huge number of maps available as addons.. including themed packs such as hikers guides etc...
Its way more detailed than TomTom, but theres no navigation of course as its a GPS mapping solution not a navigator.
It can even do a very nice 3d view of the landscape based on the OS gradients of the maps.. its very clever stuff.
oh should have added the url
www.memory-map.co.uk the sites a bit of a mess but the mapping is top quality. Theres a few online places doing the software and maps at discount, and you often get good deals at outdoor shows apparently.

Copilot

Normally I`m using Navigon but Copilot is much faster and is getting quicker a fix...but it always stopps when the HD2 - after 1 minute - stopps. With Navigon it doesn`t stopp - do I have to change it in Copilot software or at HD2 ?
How content are you with Copilot generally?
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Normally I`m using Navigon but Copilot is much faster and is getting quicker a fix...but it always stopps when the HD2 - after 1 minute - stopps. With Navigon it doesn`t stopp - do I have to change it in Copilot software or at HD2 ?
How content are you with Copilot generally?
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If you mean it goes into standby, you can turn that off in the settings in Copilot. (It's in menu, settings, backlight).
If you don't mean that, can you explain a bit more?
Great - sorry I missed it !
Another question:
How do I get more POI`s ?
Are you content with Copilot =
To be honest, I've only used it a couple of times. I've always been a TomTom user, but Copilot is so cheap that I'm probably gonna get it. I don't really use POIs either. I simply use it for getting from A to B!
For that, it's nicer than TomTom. It looks better and seems more accurate (despite the fact that accuracy is probably very little to do with software, and more the GPS!)
I also like the pinch-to-zoom in it. It just looks really nice.
Copilot is much better than Navigon and of course TT !
How about your experineces ?
Sorry to hijack this thread slightly (!), but can Copilot be used for navigating on foot?
I am a TomTom user via PNDs in vehicles normally, and would only ever really use my phone to navigate if I was on foot - for this TomTom is no good with.
Also, on a related topic, does Copilot make use of the built-in electronic compass - ie. does it know which way you are facing before you start moving (again a key thing when navigating on foot!)?
Thanks in advance!
SimonW500 said:
Sorry to hijack this thread slightly (!), but can Copilot be used for navigating on foot?
I am a TomTom user via PNDs in vehicles normally, and would only ever really use my phone to navigate if I was on foot - for this TomTom is no good with.
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Yes it can, also by automobile, motorcycle, bicycle and RV (whatever that is).
I don't think it does work with the built-in compass, which is probably no bad thing as the compass is not that accurate.
I've been using CoPilot Live for two years now and I find it excellent. On the HD2 screen it's brilliant and is very smooth with the fast processor. Don't forget to also download CoPilot Central Live which is a desktop application that lets you plan your routing on your PC and send it to the phone & vice versa. You can download it for free HERE although you'll only get the most out of it if you have CoPilot installed on your phone. Have a look at the CoPilot User Manual HERE[url].
For the money, it's a superb bit bit of software.
Edit: Sorry, my mistake. You could do planning on version 1 of CoPilot Central but it seems they've removed that on version 2. But you can still plan journeys on the desktop using Google Earth and import them via CoPilot Central version 2 though in KML format..
Purchased yesterday, and for the price, cant fault it.
CoPilot 8 Live Au
I've been using it for 2 weeks and like it. Pinch to zoom is great and the graphics are better than TT.
The trial allowed me to download an Au map but unfortunately I can't purchase it here in Aus so I've loaded TT7.
Will buy Copilot 8 when it becomes available here if the price is right.
Copilot 7 was outrageous at over $200Au.
Had co-pilot since 3.5 days.
It has always had odd issues just as Tom Tom (I used the latter when it was Palmtop Route Planner and City Maps for Psion and Palm) has ... dodgy post codes and some addresses and sometimes very odd routing.
It is a shame that they have removed the old desktop s/w ... but given I have the full CPL6 ... I still have that.
In 8, it also appears that the free traffic camera integration from PocketGPS is missing ... I think they are going to charge for that when available in the UK.
I love the fact that in 8, you get speed indication for the road you are on. It probably isn't completely accurate ... but a nice touch.
It is prettier ... but slightly less configurable than previous versions.
Lock with the HD2 is incredible ... 7 satellites in my study when I used to struggle for a lock with the TyTNII ... not sure how HTC have managed that.
As someone else mentioned ... for the cost .... it seems mad not to enable it. I have 7" Sat Nav in both my cars ... so I don't need it unless I'm in someone else's car ... but it's still worth it for planning routes.
Perhaps the best thing is it's ability to have multiple stops. This can be used to guide CPL not to use stupid routes.
Paul.
Hi
Sorry to jump in here, but can anyone who has Copilot for Europe tell me if the Canary Islands are included please?
Thanks
QWERTY and Contacts search?
I'm agreeing that for the price it seems like a winner. I too am a TomTom user and have sat nav in all the vehicles I use regularly, but well always a nice-to-have!
Two things that I can't figure out with it though:
1) How do I change to a QWERTY keyboard for address entry etc?
2) When I'm searching my contacts - it doesn't actually search - I seem to have to type it in exactly.. can this not be changed?
Thanks.
I want to know if you can change it to QWERTY too.
For the price, you'll struggle to beat it, however I do prefer TomTom, the quick/shortcut button on the screen on TT7 is damned useful..
Also can you change how it plans your route, speed/distance etc the same as on TT?
I'd love to get a QWERTY keyboard on Copilot too! It does bug me when apps have their own keyboards in them. I can't see it happening though. REALLY would love to be wrong in this case though!
I've got a question about CoPilot.
How the heck do you remove it? There is no uninstall option in the Remove Programs
Can you just delete it from the storage card and remove the icons? This seems a bit ham fisted.
I need the space for my TT maps
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I'm agreeing that for the price it seems like a winner. I too am a TomTom user and have sat nav in all the vehicles I use regularly, but well always a nice-to-have!
Two things that I can't figure out with it though:
1) How do I change to a QWERTY keyboard for address entry etc?
2) When I'm searching my contacts - it doesn't actually search - I seem to have to type it in exactly.. can this not be changed?
Thanks.
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1. According to the faq on the website of CoPilot the querty keyboard is planned for one of the updates of CoPilot 8 in the future.
Quote from the FAQ:
Will a Qwerty keyboard be added to CoPilot Live v8?
We currently have a QWERTY keyboard in iPhone and are working to add a QWERTY keyboard via a free update soon to Android and Windows Mobile.
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I bought and activated the trial of Copliot 8 that was on my hd2, and I like it.... I've run it alongside Tomtom too and it sometimes chooses slightly different routes, but it's not failed to get m eto my destination yet. For £24.99 you can't go wrong. However There is a problem that I can't add custome poi's such as the gps pocket camera database... seems to be a bug with a specific version of 8, which is a little annoying.
I bought it when it first appeared in the early beta roms...
I really like it, although bicycle mode does seem to want to send me on some bizarre routes and round the wrong way on roundabouts.
and some streets don't seem to have house numbers (mine included)
I tried Copilot several days in Paris.
What I can say is that this software is really really bad.... Except you like to be lost or are fond of wrong way streets.
nb1962 said:
Hi
Sorry to jump in here, but can anyone who has Copilot for Europe tell me if the Canary Islands are included please?
Thanks
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I have contacted the customer service about this question and they told me that canary ARE present in europe map.
Are you planning holidays in canary? Me too I'm ready to go in about 15days for 3-4 months in Fuerteventura
Bye
Erik

Free turn-by-turn voice guided navigation for Windows 6.x phones, by Bing Map

My first thread. Hope it's not a report. Credit SD
Free turn-by-turn voice guided navigation for Windows 6.x phones, powered by Bing Maps, for owners with a Windows phones on Sprint, T-Mobile, or AT&T. Bing will calculate your route, and guide you as you drive. You can select the fastest or shortest route, choose to avoid traffic and/or tolls, get a map or a list of directions, and see arrows and hear alerts to know which way to turn next. The navigation feature is compatible with the phones below:
•HTC Fuze
•HTC Pure
•HTC HD2
•HTC Tilt 2
•HTC Touch Diamond 2
•HTC Touch HD
•HTC Touch Pro
•HTC Touch Pro 2
•Motorola Q9c
•Samsung Jack
•Samsung Omnia II
•Samsung Propel
•T-Mobile Dash 3G
How to install it (your phone should have data plan in order to use it):
1.On your phone, open your web browser and go to m.bing.com
2.Click on "Download Bing App" to download and install the app (or download directly fromhttp://mobile.search.live.com/client/download_manual.aspx to install manually)
3.After installing the app, go to Start menu and click on "Bing"
4.Select "Direction"
5.Enter addresses and select "Navigate"
This is an update to the previous Bing cab. It auto updates if you run the old one. Looks like a good update. Similar to Google Maps. Looks like a good update.
I was never really a user of Bing, until yesterday. I never really liked the interface and the usibility of MS apps, they tend to be very utilitarian and clunky. Sort of like 80% apps, they are almost good, but not quite.
That is until I tried this new version of Bing. I don't know about the rest of it, but the maps and the navigation is 100%. Sure its not TomTom or iGo, and you need a data connection (so no wandering the back roads of montana) but it is an excellent FREE altinative especially for city driving.
It loads fast, it looks good, it READS THE STREET NAMES, and it will get you there. So if you are off in an area you are not familliar with, and you are looking for an address, this program will certainly get you there.
You don't have to have nearly 1GB of SD card space taken by maps either. For the power traveler who is always on the go and always navigating, then this may not be for you. But for the other 90% of us, who have to go to Aunt Sally's house, and you have not been there in 20 years... this will do the job, and do it well.
It also pulls addresses from your contacts, it allows you to do voice search and then it will navigate you to the location of your choice. Also, traffic data is on by default (I think, but its there either way). The routing options are a little limited, but they include shortest, fastest, no tolls and account for traffic delays in calculating route (interesting option I have not had the chance to try).
i have the tmo tp2 with energy rom on it and i can't get it to work it is installed and the gps map works but nothing else does??? it says " sorry, we can't complete your search. please check your connection and try again." but i have 3g running and two to three signal bars. what the problem what wrong????
I have the same phone and am running the latest NRG ROM with Cookie (see signature). The update worked in my ROM as does the latest version of Bing... You might try updating to the same version I'm running or reflashing and reapplying the update...
If you want a good, free, turn by turn nav solution the pain of reflashing is worth it I think
nice, i will try this app, never used bing before...
I've played with the nav feature since it was released and... as much as its a great improvement and I will use it from time to time it's still not as good as the google maps navigator for android.... and still couldn't replace something like tomtom. These free programs are going to very soon make gps programs like tomtom pointless though...
I'm gonna have to disagree with you. It can and has replaced TomTom for me. I ran TT7 on my old Tilt for a long time. The bing search is much more powerful and better than TT. TT does some things well but Bing is more well rounded. Plus there's no way I'm shelling out the cash for TT maps when this is free. The voice guidance leaps it in front of WM Google Maps as well. It's probably only just gonna get better as well. It's pretty good right now though.
Aaron McCarthy said:
I've played with the nav feature since it was released and... as much as its a great improvement and I will use it from time to time it's still not as good as the google maps navigator for android.... and still couldn't replace something like tomtom. These free programs are going to very soon make gps programs like tomtom pointless though...
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Its not as good as hiring a local guide who can come and drive your car for you either. Ultimately that is not the point.
Android (and iPhone) may be good devices, but this program is for windows mobile, so it is only fair to compare it to windows mobile options. If you read my mini review I mentioned that it would be good for light around town navigating. For example, I was traveling a few weeks ago, and I was really craving something other than McDonalds to eat. I decide on Chipoltle, but since they are not as common as McD I needed to search for them. I first loaded google maps and did a search. Found one a few miles away. Due to the confusing roads, and the heavy traffic, I wanted voice navigation rather than just following a line on the screen. So I had to write the address down on a piece of paper, then loaded iGo and keyed the address in and let it guide me to my dinner.
This new version of Bing would have done that all in one step. With the additional possibility to direct you based on traffic volumes (I was in suburban Washington DC, that feature could have been HUGE for me).
Google's flagship software on their OS should be great, and if they had a equivalent program on the WM platform then it would be a fair comparison. Personally this integration of contacts, maps, and directions, along with real time traffic brings the mobile phone to a whole new level of effective. Now if they could work weather into the mix (like radar imagery over the map, all in the same program) it would be perfect. (I live in an area where it could be snowing very heavily 1 mile down the road, and you would never know it or predict it without checking the radar)
My main issue with it... the turn screen comes on over the entire map screen and shows the name of the street you are gonna turn on, and a big arrow indicating the type of turn. It does not seem like it goes away until after the turn. I for one would like the know that info then go back to the map so I can see the route in reference to the other roads around. It has a hide button on the left softkey, but that is kinda annoying to have to do on repeated turns.
edit: All I can say is that my wife's first smart phone, and this easy to use bing software just game me the need to buy a window mount for the phone in her car.
Used it today for the first time. I've been a long time Garmin user and I still like the UI better of garmin but bing gets rid of the lag. It was very accurate where as with garmin I have about a 1 second delay.
Wish garmin would release a newer version fixing the lag issue. overall though I was very impressed with the capability of the free bing app.
Aaron McCarthy said:
I've played with the nav feature since it was released and... as much as its a great improvement and I will use it from time to time it's still not as good as the google maps navigator for android.... and still couldn't replace something like tomtom. These free programs are going to very soon make gps programs like tomtom pointless though...
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boufa said:
Its not as good as hiring a local guide who can come and drive your car for you either. Ultimately that is not the point.
Android (and iPhone) may be good devices, but this program is for windows mobile, so it is only fair to compare it to windows mobile options.
This new version of Bing would have done that all in one step. With the
Google's flagship software on their OS should be great, and if they had a equivalent program on the WM platform then it would be a fair comparison. Personally this integration of contacts, maps, and directions, along with real time traffic brings the mobile phone to a whole new level of effective. Now if they could work weather into the mix (like radar imagery over the map, all in the same program) it would be perfect. (I live in an area where it could be snowing very heavily 1 mile down the road, and you would never know it or predict it without checking the radar).
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I'd really say the only thing I like more about tomtom and other gps programs like it are the 3d views.... That's about it. The UI of tomtom I have always liked best but thats sort of something for each person to decide on their own. This only has a straight up google like map that has the turn directions pop up. Plain yes, handy, definatly... Crazy it took them this long to impliment something like that if you ask me
That said, I wasnt meaning to give a straight up comparision to something not even available for wm (google navigator) but google navigator IS coming to windows mobile and they said that it will more or less look identical accross all platforms (android, WM and Iphone OS) So... comparing them in the light that it will be here... well.... that I dont really think is stepping that far out of line.
For scooting around town for sure this can be a great tool. Especially the fact that you can speak your destination and have it navigate there. Something that tomtom has yet to impliment in there wm aps. Navigon does voice navigation, or at least used to when I used it on my phone years ago, but if I recall correctly you could only speak directions to names of people or places you yourself saved in so for sure points go to bing navigator for that feature. That's why I said aps like this are going to make the stand along gps programs like tomtom and garmin and the sort ancient history! As much of a step up this feature is it's only going to get better. As soon as they add in the 3d map view that tomtom, garmin, google navigator etc I'll be using the program every day!
Aaron McCarthy said:
I'd really say the only thing I like more about tomtom and other gps programs like it are the 3d views.... That's about it. The UI of tomtom I have always liked best but thats sort of something for each person to decide on their own. This only has a straight up google like map that has the turn directions pop up. Plain yes, handy, definatly... Crazy it took them this long to impliment something like that if you ask me
That said, I wasnt meaning to give a straight up comparision to something not even available for wm (google navigator) but google navigator IS coming to windows mobile and they said that it will more or less look identical accross all platforms (android, WM and Iphone OS) So... comparing them in the light that it will be here... well.... that I dont really think is stepping that far out of line.
For scooting around town for sure this can be a great tool. Especially the fact that you can speak your destination and have it navigate there. Something that tomtom has yet to impliment in there wm aps. Navigon does voice navigation, or at least used to when I used it on my phone years ago, but if I recall correctly you could only speak directions to names of people or places you yourself saved in so for sure points go to bing navigator for that feature. That's why I said aps like this are going to make the stand along gps programs like tomtom and garmin and the sort ancient history! As much of a step up this feature is it's only going to get better. As soon as they add in the 3d map view that tomtom, garmin, google navigator etc I'll be using the program every day!
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Despite my snotty response, I would be thrilled to see Google Navigator come to the WM platform. I like the fact that Google and Microsoft are taking shots at each other in this "maps war" Ultimatly WE all win. If I am not navigating I like google maps. I keep it on and use it just for seeing where I am at the moment and to see traffic. I like the visual look of the google maps better and the road construction information is great too. But the navigating is a whole ton better on the new Bing.
I really want to like Waze. I really tuely do. I like the idea of driving down streets that I can see that no one else has gone down. I like adjusting my route to get one of the prize locations. However, the stability of the program is very poor. I get crashes once in every 2 or 3 uses.
From what I have seen Google Navigator takes the voice navigation and puts it onto the google maps, and for me that would be the perfect solution... IF it lives up to the promise.
Bing is a great step in the right direction. Sure there are features that are missing now BUT the improvement is a night and day difference. Can't wait to get other features (gas prices, etc). Also, an off-line mode would be amazing. Giving users the ability to download map information in advance for those rural trips (we are heading to North Idaho next month) would be a great option. 99% of the time I have a data connection but when I don't ... that's probably the time I need GPS the most
jrey said:
My first thread. Hope it's not a report. Credit SD
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thanks for posting. people here are generally nice. no need to worry about sucking up to the douchebags at sd...

Simple GPS that doesn't rely on internet?

For, you know, when the zombies come? lol
It would be nice to have something that would spit out your current location. Even if the map isn't very detailed at all... is there anything?
bugmenever said:
For, you know, when the zombies come? lol
It would be nice to have something that would spit out your current location. Even if the map isn't very detailed at all... is there anything?
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So far as I know all the free software uses the internet to download the maps. You could buy gps software. Iguidance 2009 is one, garmin makes another. None of them free, of course.
If you just want your location, there are utilities that will show your lat/long, but not with a map. My NRG ROM includes one such program.
Take a look at MapDroyd.
It uses the OpenStreetMap database. You download maps you're interested in and then access them later while you're offline.
Cheers,
Lanroth
Here's another one that doesn't require internet access.
http://www.amazegps.com/
lanroth said:
Take a look at MapDroyd.
It uses the OpenStreetMap database. You download maps you're interested in and then access them later while you're offline.
Cheers,
Lanroth
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Thanks, but that's for Android....
bugmenever said:
Thanks, but that's for Android....
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It's for any platform imaginable.
Check out http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Windows_Mobile
If you actually want a full fledged GPS, I have tried most of the free ones and found them to all be complex to configure, inaccurate, and with horrible user interfaces. I have tried most of the for pay ones, and consider CoPilot Live to be the best value for the money. At $30 U.S. it is one of the cheapest commercial GPS apps I have seen. I find it to be very easy to use, and the maps have been accurate everywhere I have used it in the U.S. It functions perfectly fine without internet access, but can use internet connectivity to get updated maps, search for points of interest, and in some areas it can even get traffic updates.
Oziexplorer works for me. Can download any internet map or scan your own. Doesn't need internet to run. I use it a lot in the bush where there is no phone signal.
iGO8 work pretty well on TP2, not free but if you look hard enough...
p51d007 said:
Here's another one that doesn't require internet access.
http://www.amazegps.com/
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Not sure why you think that.
It needs a network connection to download the maps and to calculate the route. If you lose the conenction, it can continue to provide the route that was downloaded temporarily. But if you get off of the route, it is of no help until the network reconnects.
+1 on CoPilot Live. I use it a lot, and like the interface and turn instructions. Around New Years, they had a special offering for $19.95, which I think I learned about on XDA-Dev, and I scooped it up right away. It works with or without an internet connection. I recently used in on a ferry from Long Beach CA to Santa Catalina island, and it even knew I was on the ferry because of its route.
TomTom works without an internet connection, but is more expensive. I have it also on my TP2, along with a local map they once offered as a free trial, but they don't offer it any more, and even told me that TT7 isn't yet available in the US for the TP2, even though I downloaded it from their site.
NaviComputer
This program is the way forward!
Basically a GPS map without the map. it provides another PC based program that downloads OpenMap - you customise what you want and to what zoom level you want and it creates the map for your storage card. This amazed me when i actually tried it.
I spent weeks hunting and trying different programs:
I purchased TomTom a year ago and i use this in the car in the UK, but a few months ago i was heading for a 2 week hol in Cuba (crazy place) and planned to drive all over the island so was desperate for an offline map knowing that there would either be no 3G connection or it would cost an arm and a leg (the former proved to be the case).
I created a map of nearly the whole of cuba at full zoom level and it came in at under 75mb. Full (offline) GPS whever i went.
So, TomTom for the car, google maps for on foot, and this badboy (now with a full offline map of London) for when i cant get a signal (ie on the underground) and i want to know which way to go when i get to the surface.
There are only 2 GPS Navigation softwares that I have tried that offer full turn-by-turn navigation without the need to connect to the internet and those are iGO8 and iGO Primo. Everything else and I mean EVERYTHING that I've tried besides the two differnet iGO programs require a data connection whether it be for AGPS or to access some kind online service the program offers such as Garmin Online.
I recommend buying iGO8 and giving that a shot. It works extremely well on both my Touch Pro2 and my HD2 without any real issue. The only downside to it is that it doesn't have working TTS.
+1 more for Co-Pilot
It's cheap, and it works. It's (mostly) professional, provides with very nice navigation routes (and fast too), with some small things to desire (voice alerts before turns are not always helpful, etc).
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There are only 2 GPS Navigation softwares that I have tried that offer full turn-by-turn navigation without the need to connect to the internet and those are iGO8 and iGO Primo. Everything else and I mean EVERYTHING that I've tried besides the two differnet iGO programs require a data connection whether it be for AGPS or to access some kind online service the program offers such as Garmin Online.
I recommend buying iGO8 and giving that a shot. It works extremely well on both my Touch Pro2 and my HD2 without any real issue. The only downside to it is that it doesn't have working TTS.
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Tomtom doen't require a connection
OpenMobileMaps Gets Even Better on Version 1.4
[APP] NaviComputer – Offline GPS Mapping Software [UPDATE v0.93 - 2010-04-05]
+1 for navicomputer.
just upgraded.
no voice directions but the best FREE offline GPS software IMO
I'll stick with Tomtom... Good, reliable software.... And John Cleese giving directions isn't bad either....
ultramag69 said:
I'll stick with Tomtom... Good, reliable software.... And John Cleese giving directions isn't bad either....
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John Cleese? Kitt all the way!
dharvey4651 said:
There are only 2 GPS Navigation softwares that I have tried that offer full turn-by-turn navigation without the need to connect to the internet and those are iGO8 and iGO Primo. Everything else and I mean EVERYTHING that I've tried besides the two differnet iGO programs require a data connection whether it be for AGPS or to access some kind online service the program offers such as Garmin Online.
I recommend buying iGO8 and giving that a shot. It works extremely well on both my Touch Pro2 and my HD2 without any real issue. The only downside to it is that it doesn't have working TTS.
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I'm using iGO primo 2010, it connects to 3G and spend around 1~3 cents, any idea why? o.o

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