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Can anyone explain me about this activation needed in G1?
There are unlocked versions of G1 in ebay, what does that mean? You can only use the voice, no data?
Will there be an official no-activation-needed version or it will be tmobile's forever?
Thanks!
Unlocked only means it's SIM unlocked, meaning you can use the phone to make calls on other networks like AT&T.
The G1's 3G is NOT compatible with AT&T's 3G though.
The "activation" is simple entering a gmail account for the phone for it to be able to use and go to the home screen.
nxt said:
Unlocked only means it's SIM unlocked, meaning you can use the phone to make calls on other networks like AT&T.
The G1's 3G is NOT compatible with AT&T's 3G though.
The "activation" is simple entering a gmail account for the phone for it to be able to use and go to the home screen.
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Can I activate my unlocked g1 without tmo sim card?
so "activation" is basically linking the phone to a google account, so you can sync email, calendar, data, etc?
Its lame use G1 without activating?
if the cellphone is unlocked you can use 3G without activating? Its 2100mhz, right?
who told you the g1 wont work on at&t's 3g? they lied. dont spread bad info. The g1 works fine on at&t's 3g.
The G1 uses 1700/2100, AT&T's is only 2100, not compatible.
driz said:
who told you the g1 wont work on at&t's 3g? they lied. dont spread bad info. The g1 works fine on at&t's 3g.
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First off where are you located? Where is the phone located?
In the USA you can not use it on at&t 3g network. If the phone is in europe or Asia, you will be able to use 3g with a at&t sim in it.
It all depends where the phone is at the time of usage.
nxt said:
The G1 uses 1700/2100, AT&T's is only 2100, not compatible.
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T-Mobile 3G uses 1700 and 2100. AT&T 3G uses 850 and 1900.
driz said:
who told you the g1 wont work on at&t's 3g? they lied. dont spread bad info. The g1 works fine on at&t's 3g.
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Its not a lie, it is fact AT&T's 3g works on a different frequency than T-Mobiles here in the states.
ranger7424 said:
Its not a lie, it is fact AT&T's 3g works on a different frequency than T-Mobiles here in the states.
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sigh. The phone is capable of hitting the ATT frequencies. Yes, ATT uses a different set than TMo, but no big deal.
http://www.htc.com/www/product/g1/specification.html
Check your facts before starting "he said/she said/etc." Bickering on the forum serves no useful purpose.
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demontefixo said:
sigh. The phone is capable of hitting the ATT frequencies. Yes, ATT uses a different set than TMo, but no big deal.
http://www.htc.com/www/product/g1/specification.html
Check your facts before starting "he said/she said/etc." Bickering on the forum serves no useful purpose.
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On the paper yes it is, I agree with you, g1 hardware capable of doing it. But does anybody here ever try it at this current time? you know sometimes on the paper is not exactly the same when you actually try by urself, it could renders att card cant be use because of app issue and so on
slothy_punk said:
On the paper yes it is, I agree with you, g1 hardware capable of doing it. But does anybody here ever try it at this current time? you know sometimes on the paper is not exactly the same when you actually try by urself, it could renders att card cant be use because of app issue and so on
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It is reported working... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=439867 granted, I personally have not done it, but I supposed I could.
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demontefixo said:
sigh. The phone is capable of hitting the ATT frequencies. Yes, ATT uses a different set than TMo, but no big deal.
http://www.htc.com/www/product/g1/specification.html
Check your facts before starting "he said/she said/etc." Bickering on the forum serves no useful purpose.
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Good job you have proven that the G1 will work on AT&T out of country. The facts are checked, i have verified this with this and other forums as well as reputable T-Mo employees. The fact is other countries use a variety of frequencies and the G1 will most likely work on a lot of them.
Hello everyone
i just bought a brand new samsung infuse locked to at&t. I got it unlocked to use it with tmobile.i am currently using mytouch4g. i am able to use infuse after unlocking with tmobile but can not get 4g data speed on infuse.it only gives me EDGE speed
is there any setting out here that i can use that will give me 4g speed on samsung infuse using tmobile sim just like i get with mytouch4g. and i want to use it with tmobile USA.
please help
thanks in advance
No reply to help me. Please guys id anyone have any answer this .
I would really appricate this.
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EDGE is 4G on AT&T. just kidding
I would check what you have it set to under phone options, dail *#*#4636#*#*, and check what band you have selected, as well as correct APN settings.
ATT's 4G bands are not the same at T-Mobile's 4G bands. Wont work no way no how.
@ chris it says gsm/wcdma auto(prl)
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AT&T is using 1900 MHz (850 MHz in some markets) for 3G. T-Mobile will use 1700 MHz for download and 2100 MHz for upload or pretend I didn't say anything and keep trying something that isn't doable. that's your call
like jay says it doesn't have the correct network band antennas,
just sell it, new smartphones are coming out weekly.
and 4G is gimmicky, best of luck,
Thank you so much guys for trying to help. Do you guys think if root my phone and install custom rom. Is there any chance of getting 4g speed then?
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ipaq dude said:
Thank you so much guys for trying to help. Do you guys think if root my phone and install custom rom. Is there any chance of getting 4g speed then?
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it's a hardware limitation
check the APNs. I got an Atrix and my downloads on HSPA+ were between 2 and 3. Then I changed the APNs, they had 4 options. THen I got 5-7 downloads. Thats the closest to 4G you'll get on ATT
DiamondJay20 said:
check the APNs. I got an Atrix and my downloads on HSPA+ were between 2 and 3. Then I changed the APNs, they had 4 options. THen I got 5-7 downloads. Thats the closest to 4G you'll get on ATT
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Are you sure it's not just the amount of traffic in your area?
Here in NYC, i've hit anywhere from 1.5Mbps down all the way up to 6+Mbps down
wow thanks for the info.are you on tmobile also ?
if yes do you mind sharing your apn settings.
i get good 4g speed with mytouch 4g which is tmobile branded device.
Thanks again for your inputs to help me out.
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Are you sure it's not just the amount of traffic in your area?
Here in NYC, i've hit anywhere from 1.5Mbps down all the way up to 6+Mbps down
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ipaq dude said:
wow thanks for the info.are you on tmobile also ?
if yes do you mind sharing your apn settings.
i get good 4g speed with mytouch 4g which is tmobile branded device.
Thanks again for your inputs to help me out.
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ATT
Never tweaked and still on the cingular wap setting
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ipaq dude said:
wow thanks for the info.are you on tmobile also ?
if yes do you mind sharing your apn settings.
i get good 4g speed with mytouch 4g which is tmobile branded device.
Thanks again for your inputs to help me out.
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I hate to burst your bubble but there is no way you are going to get the AT&T device to work on T-Mobile's 3G, nevermind "4G"/HSPA. Sorry.
right... It has to do with the phone and the hardware... aka - the stuff they build the phone with. Its like if you try to use a phone to receive xm radio frequencies... it's not going to work... If you have a phone with the ATT bands they will NEVER work the same on Tmobile. But you can get Edge on any GSM network. Hope this helps. Search for att cellular bands on Google and compare them with Tmobile cellular bands.
Sorry to say it but the guys are correct! ALL of the AT&T 4G phone are quad band GSM phones! They work on the 850/1900 frequencies for all data and communication purposes in the USA! T-Mobile uses 1700! So basically you should have done a little more homework before you ran out and spent all that money!
If you are lucky you can still sell it and maybe get your money back!
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yes i know.what waste i hope i will be able to sell it.thank you guys anyways.
souperman7340 said:
Sorry to say it but the guys are correct! ALL of the AT&T 4G phone are quad band GSM phones! They work on the 850/1900 frequencies for all data and communication purposes in the USA! T-Mobile uses 1700! So basically you should have done a little more homework before you ran out and spent all that money!
If you are lucky you can still sell it and maybe get your money back!
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Wont work at all. Different bands. That is the one crappy part. TMO uses there oddball 1900 MHZ or something like that.
mediq91 said:
Wont work at all. Different bands. That is the one crappy part. TMO uses there oddball 1900 MHZ or something like that.
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They use 1700 and 2100 (both are required by the phone).
http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/20/...dts-seven-year-umts-roaming-agreement-gets-d/
What that basically does is TMO and ATT will SHARE the spectrum, meaning their phones have to have the same bands, and you guys know that ATT gets most of the cool phones and TMO usually gets nothing but Galaxy S series as its top of the line phone.
That's really good news, i actually like it.
discuss?
Is there a list of what towers TMO received.
Does this mean i can use an unlocked international phone with 2100 mhz HSPA+ on t-mobile and still get 3G?
Tmobile gonna have iphone now? Hells yeah
Sweet news. T-mobile just surprised me with a comeback!
Wait, how does this mean we get their phones too? Is it just because we're gonna share the same network?
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Nabeel10 said:
Wait, how does this mean we get their phones too? Is it just because we're gonna share the same network?
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This is only good if answer to my question above is yes. I mean can we use unlocked world phones? I can get a used galaxy s2 international version and use on t mobile. That will be awesome!
Nabeel10 said:
Wait, how does this mean we get their phones too? Is it just because we're gonna share the same network?
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It'll be sharing the same spectrum, meaning their phones will be compatible with TMO's network.
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This is only good if answer to my question above is yes. I mean can we use unlocked world phones? I can get a used galaxy s2 international version and use on t mobile. That will be awesome!
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I honestly can't answer that, but just opinion wise, i think thats a no. International phones have different bands than that of ATT or TMO, but if ATT gets a phone that we don't (iphone) we SHOULD be able to use it.
They aren't sharing spectrum, they have a roaming deal. Which is totally different.
T-Mobile has had some nice phone though, didn't we have the first dual core? The Sensation, Amaze, G2X, and SGS2 are all top of the line.
Just curious though, wouldn't this mean that At&t's already terrible data speeds will become worse, since more people will be using the same spectrum?
My unlocked 3gs is still just hitting edge..guess im not in the area affected by this.
*puts iphone back in dusty corner*
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jamesd86 said:
My unlocked 3gs is still just hitting edge..guess im not in the area affected by this.
*puts iphone back in dusty corner*
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Pretty sure it hasn't happened yet.
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Most of the current international phones are compatible with ATTs 2100 mhz HSPA+ network. Not LTE though. But i think what this new arrangement is to use ATT towers only for roaming where tmobile towers are not available. All t mobile phones do support the 2100 band, so that makes sense. But Att phones cannot work on tmobile 3G/HSPA+ 850 mhz band.
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Most of the current international phones are compatible with ATTs 2100 mhz HSPA+ network. Not LTE though. But i think what this new arrangement is to use ATT towers only for roaming where tmobile towers are not available. All t mobile phones do support the 2100 band, so that makes sense. But Att phones cannot work on tmobile 3G/HSPA+ 850 mhz band.
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Yep. I wouldn't go buying an AT&T device just yet. They're not merging their networks. They're just letting TMo customers use their network in some areas. This isn't a full frequency overlap of the companies' networks as the OP is implying.
Guys get a Windows Phone 7 phone!
So smoooth and sliickk!!! Lol
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VeryCoolAlan said:
Guys get a Windows Phone 7 phone!
So smoooth and sliickk!!! Lol
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Lol. By the way, did you guys know that a Windows phone can have it's messaging app destroyed via a text message? Check out this video...
N00B_IN_N33D said:
Lol. By the way, did you guys know that a Windows phone can have it's messaging app destroyed via a text message? Check out this video...
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...hey alan can i have your number? >.>
Wow Alan, figured that's why you've been so quiet lately +.+
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Sharing Spectrum
heygrl said:
They aren't sharing spectrum, they have a roaming deal. Which is totally different.
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I think they are going to be sharing "some" spectrum. It has already started:
http://www.evdoinfo.com/content/view/3887/64/
zoid_99 said:
I think they are going to be sharing "some" spectrum. It has already started:
http://www.evdoinfo.com/content/view/3887/64/
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That's their own spectrum and has nothing to do with AT&T.
i have sprint. does this phone have lte and will i be able to put my sprint service on it as well?
The phone does not have LTE, and even if it did it would not work with your Sprint service. This is a GSM phone, Sprint uses CDMA. Even Sprint LTE phones still use CDMA for calls/texts/3G.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_wireless_communications_service_providers
-sort by GSM..any GSM carrier will work with the nexus 4....i am assuming you are US based.
Jay321 said:
i have sprint. does this phone have lte and will i be able to put my sprint service on it as well?
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dude, really? Come on! PLEASE read/search before cluttering these forums!
The N4 is an HSPA device. It is not compatible with Verizon or Sprint.
Currently on 3G with N9005 on the T-mobile network, hoping to make it run on the 4G. I've been looking through the forums for an answer but only found that it might be possible. Does anyone know how to make the N9005 phone work with Tmobile 4G? step by step would be appreciated. :laugh:
Thank you!
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Currently on 3G with N9005 on the T-mobile network, hoping to make it run on the 4G. I've been looking through the forums for an answer but only found that it might be possible. Does anyone know how to make the N9005 phone work with Tmobile 4G? step by step would be appreciated. :laugh:
Thank you!
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i thought you had to have a 4g contract
jaythenut said:
i thought you had to have a 4g contract
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What do you mean by a 4g contract? if you have data isnt it just running depending if your location has 4G?
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What do you mean by a 4g contract? if you have data isnt it just running depending if your location has 4G?
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In the UK you have to have a 4G contract
jaythenut said:
In the UK you have to have a 4G contract
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ooohs, I dont think it is like that here, as my brother has the same plan as I have but runs on 4G while I run on 3G cause the N9005 is not setup to run on 4G here, but i heard there was ways but just not sure how to do it.
Is 4G the same as H+? If so, you just need to be in an area that has 4G. I have an n9005 in the US, and I am on H+ now. However, in some locations I only get 3G or even E.
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Is 4G the same as H+? If so, you just need to be in an area that has 4G. I have an n9005 in the US, and I am on H+ now. However, in some locations I only get 3G or even E.
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no H+ is technically 3g but a bit better. it has to say 4G in order for it to be 4G. Which is why im trying to find out how to make it 4G
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no H+ is technically 3g but a bit better. it has to say 4G in order for it to be 4G. Which is why im trying to find out how to make it 4G
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do you have the lte/wcdma/gsm radio button? if you do and you select that then it will connect to 4g if you have 4g coverage.
terryxsq said:
do you have the lte/wcdma/gsm radio button? if you do and you select that then it will connect to 4g if you have 4g coverage.
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Would you happen to know how I can get to that part to change it?
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Would you happen to know how I can get to that part to change it?
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I think it is settings->connection tab->more network settings. I am flashing mine note 3 so i cannot be sure. But it should be along those lines.
terryxsq said:
I think it is settings->connection tab->more network settings. I am flashing mine note 3 so i cannot be sure. But it should be along those lines.
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oohs I see the thing is its on LTE already, so Im not so sure if I need the correct Rom or something in order for the radio to read the 4G as the Rom I have is another country.
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oohs I see the thing is its on LTE already, so Im not so sure if I need the correct Rom or something in order for the radio to read the 4G as the Rom I have is another country.
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You mean you already have the LTE/WCDMA/GSM radio selected? If thats the case then you dont really need to do anything else. If you have a 4g sim and 4g coverage then you will connect to 4g automatically.
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You mean you already have the LTE/WCDMA/GSM radio selected? If thats the case then you dont really need to do anything else. If you have a 4g sim and 4g coverage then you will connect to 4g automatically.
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yes i meant its selected already. Really?? I thought I had to do something else cause it doesnt seem to be reading the 4G like with my brothers phone, and we are on the same plan.
mrpug said:
yes i meant its selected already. Really?? I thought I had to do something else cause it doesnt seem to be reading the 4G like with my brothers phone, and we are on the same plan.
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you mean he has a note3 and it reads 4g instead of lte?
if you get the 4g signal then the status bar will show 4g.
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you mean he has a note3 and it reads 4g instead of lte?
if you get the 4g signal then the status bar will show 4g.
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well he has a galaxy s4 but if we are together, on his status bar it will show 4g meanwhile mine will show H+ or E.
The issue is LTE Band.
N9005 is missing LTE BAND 1700/2100 . Thus, it won't connect. It is missing in the software, not hardware.
You have to flash the N900T rom and/or modem on your phone to get North American LTE + HSPA+ (4G) bands to work properly!
but make sure flashing N900T rom won't trig Knox though.
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The issue is LTE Band.
N9005 is missing LTE BAND 1700/2100 . Thus, it won't connect. It is missing in the software, not hardware.
You have to flash the N900T rom and/or modem on your phone to get North American LTE + HSPA+ (4G) bands to work properly!
but make sure flashing N900T rom won't trig Knox though.
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Ohs I see, so I can technically flash any N900T modem to my phone? but what happens if I trigger KNOX already? will it affect anything?
Im currently on android 4.3, N9005XXUBMJ1, N9005OLBBMI3