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So i've put a few videos on qik's site, and the quality SUCKS. I thought it was actually supposed to look good but it's extremely pixelated, even in HQ mode.
Which camera did you use? 8MP is on the back one but the one in front is 1.3, just enough to convey your emotions and face more than be high def or anything.
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Which camera did you use? 8MP is on the back one but the one in front is 1.3, just enough to convey your emotions and face more than be high def or anything.
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Videos taken with the one in the back look no better then ones taken with the one in the front.
Here are two videos i took to compare the quality. Taken and uploaded over 3G.
Rear camera: http://qik.com/video/7248873
Front camera: http://qik.com/video/7248546
Are those trees or are they green blobs?
I'm really hoping that the video quality is a matter of HTC or Qik compressing the ever loving hell out of the final result. If so, I sure hope it can be changed via root.
i agree, i tried to stream with the 8mp cam on as high a quality as i could get and still, the video comes out pixelated and poor.
The video coming out of the camera isn't that hot either: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mrono/4679553815/
Mecha2142 said:
I'm really hoping that the video quality is a matter of HTC or Qik compressing the ever loving hell out of the final result. If so, I sure hope it can be changed via root.
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I also hope this, can anyone confirm one way or the other, where/when is it compressed, upon recording, or while saving? Is it fixable; it does seem pretty poor for a High Definition camera, no?
Here are two videos i took to compare the quality. Taken and uploaded over 3G.
Rear camera: http://qik.com/video/7248873
Front camera: http://qik.com/video/7248546
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that's pretty crap
the extra 5 a month is supposed to allow greater resolution. go figure.
screw them. fring with skype is at least that good, and its free.
someone will come out with a free alternative, albeit with ads, i'm sure
Wow, that is terrible. WTF Qik / Sprint, ugh, you would think 720p HD it would be a whole lot better.
Sucks but about what I expected. Bandwidth isn't free.
I think they look good
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The video coming out of the camera isn't that hot either: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mrono/4679553815/
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what exactly are you expecting from your cell phone? that looks pretty darn good in my opinion. Sure it's not a 720p DVD quality, but again, what are you expecting from you cell phone?
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Aridon said:
Sucks but about what I expected. Bandwidth isn't free.
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sure, but as we are in a 'premium' demo you would expect more. I would expect this quality from free qik but not for paying monthly for it.
http://www.phonenews.com/qik-detail...-on-evo-4g-free-access-until-june-15th-11391/
So here are 2 videos, The top one is from recording with my EVO and the bottom is from my last Palm Pre. I guess I just want an understanding, what is the cause of this and is it because its at 24fps , is the Evo not fast enough recording this fast motion? Can this be fixed with software? Thanks an Enjoy
EVO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHzgTC1W5uc
Pre
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QChyCojjAaU
Looks the same to me.
Seriously, I hope they fix that video.
Here is one of my dog that doesn't look anywhere near as bad as yours. This was from my evo. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZFE8AmVbGs
Ah, embarrassing that the Pre-Video is so much better. Maybe the Cyanogenmod has some solutions for this garbage. Yeah video isn't that bad in daylight etc...but wow in lower light settings...nothing drastic, it still is pretty sub-par.
Bielinsk said:
Looks the same to me.
Seriously, I hope they fix that video.
Here is one of my dog that doesn't look anywhere near as bad as yours. This was from my evo. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZFE8AmVbGs
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Your video was set to Private and really, dont see a difference? Look at the Shadowing , you dont see that or trailing on the Pre vid
Hopeful for a fix tho, I even tried lowering the settings and same issue, weird though , If I use Qik to record however, I dont get the trailing or shadowing, but very compressed. I guess like everyone says, it has to do with teh 3GP compression etc.
should be able to see my vid now, sorry about that.
I used qik to make my video.
Bielinsk said:
Looks the same to me.
Seriously, I hope they fix that video.
Here is one of my dog that doesn't look anywhere near as bad as yours. This was from my evo. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZFE8AmVbGs
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um... pixelated, and shadow rendering is bleh...
sorry OP some people arent diehard gamers/video freaks like us... they cant tell the diff between 30fps and 60fps...
Nice vid of dogs, It makes me miss my pits
dang I want 60 FPS lol hopefully soon
wow, the EVO's video is just plain embarrassing.
Well theres one thing you have to remember..
The pre video is being recorded at a higher framerate and lower resolution.
The 24 FPS does seem to make a difference but it could also be the way youtube handles video..
Bah, i don't know the evo one looks like crap
The pre video looks much smoother. I hope they fix this ****!!
Try both outside in daylight.
They should perform similarly or the evo will pwn.
Wow. I tested my video mode of my Evo a few weeks ago down on the coast of washington and posted the videos on my youtube. They came out just fine on a major overcast / cloudy day.
Here is a link for all of ya.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyJnYb6zAME
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Wow. I tested my video mode of my Evo a few weeks ago down on the coast of washington and posted the videos on my youtube. They came out just fine on a major overcast / cloudy day.
Here is a link for all of ya.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyJnYb6zAME
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Looks great, minus the "jellyvision" stuff - but that's the CMOS sensor to blame there.
Tilde88 said:
um... pixelated, and shadow rendering is bleh...
sorry OP some people arent diehard gamers/video freaks like us... they cant tell the diff between 30fps and 60fps...
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youtube doesnt support 60fps so i guess you cant either.
What exactly did HTC fix or improve in video recording? Running stock 2.1 every 5 seconds i had sound problems where it would sort of pause for about one second and now on a different evo with 2.2 same problem. Anyone else experienced this?
This is only when recording with 720p.
goldt said:
What exactly did HTC fix or improve in video recording? Running stock 2.1 every 5 seconds i had sound problems where it would sort of pause for about one second and now on a different evo with 2.2 same problem. Anyone else experienced this?
This is only when recording with 720p.
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I had this problem in 2.1. Haven't had a chance to test it in 2.2. I'll try to post back when I have tested it.
Not having your problem, but a bigger one. Fresh 2.2 - 3.0.1 and shot a lot of outdoor videos this week in Hawaii using lots of different settings: h.254/480 and MPEG4/720 - It all looks like ****!!! Therefore, a much bigger problem.
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Not having your problem, but a bigger one. Fresh 2.2 - 3.0.1 and shot a lot of outdoor videos this week in Hawaii using lots of different settings: h.254/480 and MPEG4/720 - It all looks like ****!!! Therefore, a much bigger problem.
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evo is a terrible recording device. The software is junk, the parts are junk. Theres no end to how frustrated I am with the audio quality of the videos recorded. Instead of lugging around a dedicated video recorder and a phone I think I might just get an iphone 4.. I love recording videos and uploading them to youtube/facebook for people to see my life @ concerts,clubs.. its just retarded how htc boned us and cheaped out on one of the most important selling points of this phone.. I feel ripped off.. slapped in the face..
Hell the ipod nano 5th generation has better video/audio quality then evo's "720 P"
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evo is a terrible recording device. The software is junk, the parts are junk. Theres no end to how frustrated I am with the audio quality of the videos recorded. Instead of lugging around a dedicated video recorder and a phone I think I might just get an iphone 4.. I love recording videos and uploading them to youtube/facebook for people to see my life @ concerts,clubs.. its just retarded how htc boned us and cheaped out on one of the most important selling points of this phone.. I feel ripped off.. slapped in the face..
Hell the ipod nano 5th generation has better video/audio quality then evo's "720 P"
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are you serious, your complaining about the specs and the capability of a CELL PHONE?! you ungrateful bastard, go buy a ipod nano then. theres nothing worse that someone that cant appreciate today's technology.
crakerjaks said:
evo is a terrible recording device. The software is junk, the parts are junk. Theres no end to how frustrated I am with the audio quality of the videos recorded. Instead of lugging around a dedicated video recorder and a phone I think I might just get an iphone 4.. I love recording videos and uploading them to youtube/facebook for people to see my life @ concerts,clubs.. its just retarded how htc boned us and cheaped out on one of the most important selling points of this phone.. I feel ripped off.. slapped in the face..
Hell the ipod nano 5th generation has better video/audio quality then evo's "720 P"
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I agree with this. The video recording on the EVO is a total joke. 720p my ass! More like 120p.
Droid X and iPhone 4 are worlds apart in this category. Sad!
Personally, I don't think the photo camera is all that good either. In fact I think its also **** for a so-called 8MP camera.
Thanks HTC!
Htc needs to fix this....a majority can be fixed threw software...lazy htc ...we sould email or boycott or something.
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are you serious, your complaining about the specs and the capability of a CELL PHONE?! you ungrateful bastard, go buy a ipod nano then. theres nothing worse that someone that cant appreciate today's technology.
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I tempered my expectations because I knew it was a phone, but when two of your selling points are 8mp camera and 720p recording they should be decent.
I have had good luck using the camera, and I gotten great shots (especially considering it is a phone) But the stock camcorder was HORRIBLE, and it makes 720p fans cry!
Cyanogen's rom has made video recording better for me.
jcalba89 said:
are you serious, your complaining about the specs and the capability of a CELL PHONE?! you ungrateful bastard, go buy a ipod nano then. theres nothing worse that someone that cant appreciate today's technology.
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calm down dad... theres nothing worse then someone who can't appreciate proper implementation of today's technology..
lmao @ evo-bashing and comparing to gayphone4 hahaha...
I bet you genius's haven't even taken off the film covering the camera and are still crying like a bunch of little kids on x-mas because you didn't get your easy bake oven... my 720p recordings come out crystal clear with awesome sound quality...
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Yeah I'm going to say that the video quality on the EVO is fantastic but there's a lot of work to be done.
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I use a camera for pictures and a camcorder for vids would never depend on a cell phone for memories i want to keep.
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weezer562 said:
I use a camera for pictures and a camcorder for vids would never depend on a cell phone for memories i want to keep.
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That's what people without good video quality will say! You dont hear this from iPhone poeple and I work and take phone calls from them everyday.
They complain about multi tasking..... Give me better video HTC
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lmao @ evo-bashing and comparing to gayphone4 hahaha...
I bet you genius's haven't even taken off the film covering the camera and are still crying like a bunch of little kids on x-mas because you didn't get your easy bake oven... my 720p recordings come out crystal clear with awesome sound quality...
ib4l
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This genius took the plastic off in the store.
This genius is also a professional photographer and knows the limitations of cameras and lenses so I expected little from a cell phone, but I experienced less than I expected.
The video is not 720p, that is a downright lie.
The 8mp camera, yes it is 8mp, but it is poor quality.
I run CM6 and it has a slightly better take on the cam and camcorder.
Even after multiple attempts to adjust the media_profiles.xml and the different configuration files there is little we can get from it. There is an entire thread about this is 28 pages long.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=711808
And I almost forgot, obvious troll is obvious.
I noticed with the nexus one stock 2.2, vid recording was okay, but the vibrants blew it out of the water. It had a better framerate, better pic quality, and most of all for me, BETTER SOUND. Hence my reason for making this thread. I was wondering if the g2 would still have that low bitrate stock AMR codec..i really hope not.
Any input on this?
according to the rep i talked to(HTC) the camera in it as a 5MP looked 10x better than the 8MP they tested and the cpu+gpu combo should help as well
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I watched a Desire Z video on youtube in 720p and it looked like cheap floating lense (Like it was underwater while moving around)
have yet to find a phone which had decent vid recording. iphone did it a okay job but its pretty shaky and sucks when filming motion.
If its anything like the MTS, it'll be worth it to me. The MTS recorded in 640x480 which looked pretty darn good to me. I mean its a phone in the end. The 720p res should look pretty darn good. I've been totally satisfied with the camera/video on the MTS and it looks like the G2 will be an even better camera plus way better video... so I'll be happy!
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have yet to find a phone which had decent vid recording. iphone did it a okay job but its pretty shaky and sucks when filming motion.
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Yeah, the shutter speed has a ways to go in mobile cameras.
It'll have to be better than my Nexus One's 720p hack. So I'll be satisfied.
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It'll have to be better than my Nexus One's 720p hack. So I'll be satisfied.
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But WHAT ABOUT THE AUDIO! lol. But seriously, my nexus clips sounded like crap
Hi guys
The samsung galaxy note 3's slow motion video is quite bad
I tried both 120fps at 1/4 and 120fps at 1/8.
The output is very low quality comparing to iphone 5s slow motion.
Any feedback is welcome.
Do you know a better slow motion app?
Do you have a recommended settings?
Thanks
Can you post some video of it. I'd love to see it.
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Can you post some video of it. I'd love to see it.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdB4z0JZU_o&feature=c4-overview&list=UU9U7YdFdlBQHo7moeKPFcFA
Your right, it doesn't look that great. The people walking by on the left look a bit Blurry. That really sucks.
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Your right, it doesn't look that great. The people walking by on the left look a bit Blurry. That really sucks.
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This feature was the only thing keeping me from flashing an AOSP rom onto my note. Looks like I'll be rocking ParanoidAndroid!
nooooo not the slow mo
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damn bummer man (
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdB4z0JZU_o&feature=c4-overview&list=UU9U7YdFdlBQHo7moeKPFcFA
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was that at 1/8? or 1/4. 120FPS at 1/8 is still gonna give you a pretty choppy 15fps even if you export the video at 30
from what it looks like, the iphone 5 usually goes to 1/4 which would still be smooth at 30
i noticed discrepancies in different note 2 slow mo videos and how they did things.
projectvirtue said:
was that at 1/8? or 1/4. 120FPS at 1/8 is still gonna give you a pretty choppy 15fps even if you export the video at 30
from what it looks like, the iphone 5 usually goes to 1/4 which would still be smooth at 30
i noticed discrepancies in different note 2 slow mo videos and how they did things.
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It was 1/8 but 1/4 is no different.
Slow mo in note 3 sucks unfortunately.
henihazbay said:
It was 1/8 but 1/4 is no different.
Slow mo in note 3 sucks unfortunately.
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I don't think it has a problem: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BLiCKiLFbM
Here's a video from sam pullen at 1/8 and its noticeably more smooth than your sample
This same also looks pretty decent: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WL1BfkzPQ5I
however, like i mentioned above, this would one would look better if he shot at 1/4 instead of 1/8 simply because then you're voluntarily reducing it to 15 FPS.
Additionally, looking at iphone5 slomo videos, it's pretty apparent that their movie editor to set the slomo sections does make use of interpolation. Thus, if you really wanted to use the slomo for anything beyond just a for fun thing, and you're editing a video of a trip or something with slow mo sections, just take that 1/4 footage, run it through twixtor and bam, you can even do stuff like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0Kb1hDdseY
Basically. don't shoot at 1/8 unless you plan to interpolate it.
Apple's slowmo is post processed, so feel free to compare the two after you post process your own
granted, its more convenient the other way, i THINK the HTC gallery might handle that. considering the camera got ported a few months ago, it's possible the gallery will get ported to make help make slowmo clips on the fly.
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I don't think it has a problem: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BLiCKiLFbM
Here's a video from sam pullen at 1/8 and its noticeably more smooth than your sample
This same also looks pretty decent: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WL1BfkzPQ5I
however, like i mentioned above, this would one would look better if he shot at 1/4 instead of 1/8 simply because then you're voluntarily reducing it to 15 FPS.
Additionally, looking at iphone5 slomo videos, it's pretty apparent that their movie editor to set the slomo sections does make use of interpolation. Thus, if you really wanted to use the slomo for anything beyond just a for fun thing, and you're editing a video of a trip or something with slow mo sections, just take that 1/4 footage, run it through twixtor and bam, you can even do stuff like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0Kb1hDdseY
Basically. don't shoot at 1/8 unless you plan to interpolate it.
Apple's slowmo is post processed, so feel free to compare the two after you post process your own
granted, its more convenient the other way, i THINK the HTC gallery might handle that. considering the camera got ported a few months ago, it's possible the gallery will get ported to make help make slowmo clips on the fly.
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Well if you find your example videos decent then we are not on the same page.
I found those quiet ****ty. Event the one with seagulls, the original poster hated his own video.
About iphone5's slow mo, I don't care what iPhone software does. The outcome is 10 times better than Note3 unfortunately. And I find dumb to say ''use 1/4'' when there is a 1/8 option.
It reminded me of people who pretend to be happy about their phone's battery life by saying ''Don't enable wifi and 3g. Reduce the brightness and don't sync your email''
henihazbay said:
Well if you find your example videos decent then we are not on the same page.
I found those quiet ****ty. Event the one with seagulls, the original poster hated his own video.
About iphone5's slow mo, I don't care what iPhone software does. The outcome is 10 times better than Note3 unfortunately. And I find dumb to say ''use 1/4'' when there is a 1/8 option.
It reminded me of people who pretend to be happy about their phone's battery life by saying ''Don't enable wifi and 3g. Reduce the brightness and don't sync your email''
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Lol ok there buddy, no need to get pissy. Just offering and explanation and solution to your so called "problem"
At the end of the day, 1/8 will come out to 15 FPS in a 30 FPS video. Have you ever played a game at 15 FPS? Its bad. Why would a 15 FPS video magically be better. No matter what, that fact is not going to change. If a few at 1/8 is smooth at 30 FPS, then there is additional interpolation going on. If you actually have the pride to get something done yourself, figure it out, it's not hard. If you want to sit there and continue to whine in the same tone you just did, then you're more than welcome to return your note and get yourself an iPhone, noone will really care.
Quite franky, if I were to speak like you, "i don't care" if you cant get your slomo to look nice, because I know I will be able to. It's the same thing with goPro slow motion video. Have you seen what the RAW looks like? not pretty. Why do those videos look so good? interpolation and post processing. If there was an App on android that handled that, then you can run off and buy it and stop whining. But until then, you will either have to make do....or abandon it.
Just to summarize things again for you in case you actually want to put some work into it rather than complain.
1) If you want to go to 1/8, you'll need to interpolate, period, that's just how it works, learn some video basics if you need to
2) The easiest way for you to do that with the best quality is using sony vegas + twixtor
3) If you want to go deeper into it, I use premiere/after effects + twixtor.
Doing 2000 FPS shots are pretty fun but basic rules of video apply, none of this is magic.
Also seagulls? Have you never seen a duck in your life before?
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Lol ok there buddy, no need to get pissy. Just offering and explanation and solution to your so called "problem"
At the end of the day, 1/8 will come out to 15 FPS in a 30 FPS video. Have you ever played a game at 15 FPS? Its bad. Why would a 15 FPS video magically be better. No matter what, that fact is not going to change. If a few at 1/8 is smooth at 30 FPS, then there is additional interpolation going on. If you actually have the pride to get something done yourself, figure it out, it's not hard. If you want to sit there and continue to whine in the same tone you just did, then you're more than welcome to return your note and get yourself an iPhone, noone will really care.
Quite franky, if I were to speak like you, "i don't care" if you cant get your slomo to look nice, because I know I will be able to. It's the same thing with goPro slow motion video. Have you seen what the RAW looks like? not pretty. Why do those videos look so good? interpolation and post processing. If there was an App on android that handled that, then you can run off and buy it and stop whining. But until then, you will either have to make do....or abandon it.
Just to summarize things again for you in case you actually want to put some work into it rather than complain.
1) If you want to go to 1/8, you'll need to interpolate, period, that's just how it works, learn some video basics if you need to
2) The easiest way for you to do that with the best quality is using sony vegas + twixtor
3) If you want to go deeper into it, I use premiere/after effects + twixtor.
Doing 2000 FPS shots are pretty fun but basic rules of video apply, none of this is magic.
Also seagulls? Have you never seen a duck in your life before?
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I saw one duck only. Replying in xda threads
Don't get pissy dude. I apologize if I sound too aggressive.,
At the end of the day all your suggestions are helpful and I appreciate for that.
I just meant to say that I am not happy with the outcome of the slow mo when comparing it with iPhone 5's slow mo.
But I respect the fact that you're happy and you like it. That's it.
Thanks again.
I look forward to a potential update from Samsung
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I saw one duck only. Replying in xda threads
Don't get pissy dude. I apologize if I sound too aggressive.,
At the end of the day all your suggestions are helpful and I appreciate for that.
I just meant to say that I am not happy with the outcome of the slow mo when comparing it with iPhone 5's slow mo.
But I respect the fact that you're happy and you like it. That's it.
Thanks again.
I look forward to a potential update from Samsung
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No worries, I appreciate the change in tone.
I know what you mean, and I feel the same way (on the fly interpolation would be awesome), but if HTC can do it, then i'm sure it's only a matter of time before it gets ported or somebody else writes one on the play store.
As for vegas and twixtor, i'm not allowed to post torrent links or anything like that but both are very popular and should only take 30 minutes to download and you'll be able to do a lot more cool stuff with it anyways.
I was also bitterly disappointed in the slow motion capture on my note 3
Its not that the capture or frame-rate is bad its the overall quality
recording in a 720p resolution don't mean S*%T if the bit-rate is S*%T
Every video ive tried is very distorted and pixelated should never be possible in a 720p hd clip
Samsung needs to better optimise the capture and encoding
did you take off the plastic on the lens?
hehe jk..
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did you take off the plastic on the lens?
hehe jk..
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lol
it looks ok i suppose on phone but when you attempt to watch on tv omg it looks like it was taken with a Nokia 3210 and they didnt even have cameras
While it is a shame the videos are not a tad clearer, seeing as how my htc one x's slow motion was choppy as hell when i had one, im happy enough with it, i'll only be using it for stupid things anyway, lol...like this...http://youtu.be/UAxXLZDnPrY. (next im planning to film a small air cannistor bunged on a bonfire and the resulting explosion!)
and here it is. http://youtu.be/N4ff9DsoU28
http://youtu.be/w-qnRMHdfXI
Well.... (DON'T FIGHT!)
Stop Fighting, Guys!
iPhone and Note are both 1280x720@120fps but there's another huge problem:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...ion-function-t2904242/post56013525?styleid=18
And well, another one but not equal to this thread
henihazbay said:
Hi guys
The samsung galaxy note 3's slow motion video is quite bad
I tried both 120fps at 1/4 and 120fps at 1/8.
The output is very low quality comparing to iphone 5s slow motion.
Any feedback is welcome.
Do you know a better slow motion app?
Do you have a recommended settings?
Thanks
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I know what:
See this
Slow motion is a gimmick. It's just a normal video slowed down, there is no 120fps capture going on.