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720p Recording on HD2 with Android

Well since Android is progressing well and they've started getting the camera working (I know this from HTC-Linux's Twitter) and since Android can actually play 720p as opposed to when Winmo is running it can't. And with the camera hack for the Nexus One that allowed it to record 720p I was just theorizing that there may be a possibility of recording 720p on HD2 while you're running Android? To me it would make sense but I know nothing of hardware specs vs software vs decoding speed vs screen resolution so I was curious as to what all other people reading this thread or Developers may have to say to this.

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Indeed it would be nice to have HD recording on HD2, but you'll still have to take into consideration the fact that it is still early and lots of other bugs need to be fixed before such "luxurious" details can be looked over by the devs.

Not to mention the fact that the sound on the video recorder on the hd2 is bloody awful to say the least. I used to have an n95 and that wiped the floor with the hd2. I would be more interested in better sound.

The HD2's photo quality is limited by the lens, not the operating system on the phone. The N95 features a Carl Zeiss lens which enables it to take great pictures. Resolution is highly overrated when it comes to photo quality.

polo735 said:
The HD2's photo quality is limited by the lens, not the operating system on the phone. The N95 features a Carl Zeiss lens which enables it to take great pictures. Resolution is highly overrated when it comes to photo quality.
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elgrego4 said:
Not to mention the fact that the sound on the video recorder on the hd2 is bloody awful to say the least. I used to have an n95 and that wiped the floor with the hd2. I would be more interested in better sound.
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im not with you in this
see (dont forget to put it at high quality 480p on youtube for best quality)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UX6Jx9gDR_I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWlHUFnvKP8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfpmqPJwcMM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cba7yo5SwNk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfpmqPJwcMM
one of the best videos i recorded
but i also want 720p

I know I may sound stupid and I'll accept peoples input if this does but I just think that if the Nexus One camera can get a hack to support 720p and the HD2 was relatively released in the same 3-4 month period (may seem long I know) it just makes me think that the HD2's camera should qualify for getting the same hack when running android and yes it does deal with winmo because HD2 can't run 720p videos normally through the Winmo OS but as demonstrated the Linux Kernel on HD2 was able to play a 720p HD video.

Just tried the new Desire V4 Build and it indeed has camera support so if any dev wants to look into it by all means.

polo735 said:
The HD2's photo quality is limited by the lens, not the operating system on the phone. The N95 features a Carl Zeiss lens which enables it to take great pictures. Resolution is highly overrated when it comes to photo quality.
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Nah, I would bet it's the sensor more than anything.

I'm not talking about the pic quality, its the sound quality. It is very distorted and tinny. I was at a concert with my gf who recorded the same song on her average sony phone. The difference in the quality was shocking.

I actually think the video and picture performance are quite good, then again I came from a touch HD which was terrible. There is no hardware reason why this phone cannot do, in fact the hardware can defo record / decode HD but how easy it will be to get this to work in Andriod is anyones guess.
I am actually planning to keep this phone a while as IMHO it is still the best looking phone out there, the droids are too clunky and the samsungs are about 3 years behind in design.
I'm hoping we can get a full working full installable ROM soon so I can ditch winmo altogether.
Then again I only have 11 months left on my HD2 so something else may catch my eye - I dont think it will be winmo7 though as it looks dull as fnck.

polo735 said:
The HD2's photo quality is limited by the lens, not the operating system on the phone. The N95 features a Carl Zeiss lens which enables it to take great pictures. Resolution is highly overrated when it comes to photo quality.
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yes the n95s lens was a zeiss, but that was just a name!
The lens was cheap thin glass, just like any other mobile phone lens ever made. There is a reason zeiss prime lenses go for £20k and upwards, I agree with you on that!
and your spot on about resolution being no way near as important as a good sized sensor, and good optics.
But one of the main reasons mobile phone video looks so crap, is the low resolution its always been recorded at! You look at some phones that can record 720 and it looks a damn sight better than the vga recordings, Mostly because It doesn't need to be stretched out and destroted like low res' video does

I definately haven't experienced problems with the mike for the HD2, I've recorded videos with my friends and they come out very well in reference to sound and there IS alot of sound in a concert so I wouldn't be surprised if audio you recorded at a concert would sound bad.

lonelykatana said:
yes the n95s lens was a zeiss, but that was just a name!
The lens was cheap thin glass, just like any other mobile phone lens ever made. There is a reason zeiss prime lenses go for £20k and upwards, I agree with you on that!
and your spot on about resolution being no way near as important as a good sized sensor, and good optics.
But one of the main reasons mobile phone video looks so crap, is the low resolution its always been recorded at! You look at some phones that can record 720 and it looks a damn sight better than the vga recordings, Mostly because It doesn't need to be stretched out and destroted like low res' video does
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I always did wonder why the HD2's video quality only went up to VGA even though it has a WVGA screen, 0.o.

skrizzyboy said:
I definately haven't experienced problems with the mike for the HD2, I've recorded videos with my friends and they come out very well in reference to sound and there IS alot of sound in a concert so I wouldn't be surprised if audio you recorded at a concert would sound bad.
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What im trying to point out is that lots of other (older, cheaper) phones record better sound. My missus used a w995 and It is much better sound.

granted sound probably isnt the HD2's stongpoint but the video performance is comparable with other models. Yes it could be better but it will only get better though enabling it in Android.

Any update on the 720p on htc hd2 ??? I would pay the person 100 us dollars if they get the 720p recording on htc hd2 with android !!

skrizzyboy said:
I always did wonder why the HD2's video quality only went up to VGA even though it has a WVGA screen, 0.o.
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lol! mine records in WVGA(800x480) and has the option to record 720p(1280x720) but when i try it camera shuts down.. so the best a can record is WVGA plus the frame rate seems to be a bit smoother than normal HD2 VGA recording

Dani01c said:
lol! mine records in WVGA(800x480) and has the option to record 720p(1280x720) but when i try it camera shuts down.. so the best a can record is WVGA plus the frame rate seems to be a bit smoother than normal HD2 VGA recording
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how does it have that option? and cant that just be a vid codec error?(which can be fixed)

Any news about 720p recording in android?Is a driver still in development? I would like to try wp7 only for the hd recording ability,seems good

EVO's camera is garbage

Seriously, how can they call this an 8MP camera?
No matter what menu settings, location, lighting I choose MOST of the pics always come out looking like garbage. Really fuzzy.
No wonder Droid X and iPhone's camera destroyed this in the tests.
And the camcorder is another good joke from HTC. 720p video recording? Really? Total joke.
What kind of magical settings do you people use to make it look better?
Maybe I will hire a professional photographer/lighting specialist to follow me all over 24/7 just in case I need to take some decent pics with this damn thing.
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not gonna lie it kinda does suck on video and on normal shots you have to be still for a couple of seconds and it looks really nice

I like pics i take with it

magicalan said:
not gonna lie it kinda does suck on video and on normal shots you have to be still for a couple of seconds and it looks really nice
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It's the software that comes with it I've tried other camera software like camera pro it snaps fast like really fast. Just that the software needs to be updated for the HTC EVO. Far as stock camera video its the software encoding sucks. The hardware is great just finding the right software or somebody develops one. Seems as if all the devs are busy rooting and tweaking the roms that HTC and Google should of done before even releasing software. Then maybe the devs can focus on making apps for us. Maybe somebody will soon develop better camera and video app that really take advantage of this great camera.
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AvatarOfFrost said:
Seriously, how can they call this an 8MP camera?
No matter what menu settings, location, lighting I choose MOST of the pics always come out looking like garbage. Really fuzzy.
No wonder Droid X and iPhone's camera destroyed this in the tests.
And the camcorder is another good joke from HTC. 720p video recording? Really? Total joke.
What kind of magical settings do you people use to make it look better?
Maybe I will hire a professional photographer/lighting specialist to follow me all over 24/7 just in case I need to take some decent pics with this damn thing.
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Are you focusing the camera? Press and hold on the screen in the area you want to focus and it will focus and snap the picture. The pictures are pretty good (not DSLR quality or anything, but much better than most/all phones).

AvatarOfFrost said:
Seriously, how can they call this an 8MP camera?
No matter what menu settings, location, lighting I choose MOST of the pics always come out looking like garbage. Really fuzzy.
No wonder Droid X and iPhone's camera destroyed this in the tests.
And the camcorder is another good joke from HTC. 720p video recording? Really? Total joke.
What kind of magical settings do you people use to make it look better?
Maybe I will hire a professional photographer/lighting specialist to follow me all over 24/7 just in case I need to take some decent pics with this damn thing.
End rant./
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Ok, two things to point out here
1. The Droid X and iPhone did not destroy the Evo in terms of camera. Camcorder wise yes, but not the camera itself. That's working just fine, and I haven't heard too many complaints about the camera itself. Most cell phone cameras at this level produce similar results.
2. Yes, the video quality does suck ass, but its been made a whole lot better here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=711808. My evo is recording at 13 mbps in h.264, and the results are fantastic. We shouldn't have to be doing this, but at least its working.

It's a phone.
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Agreed. The camera sucks.. I think it's 8 in dog megapixels.

Ahh, ignorance is bliss!
Megapixels =/= photo quality directly. Mega pixel = 1 million pixels. 8 MP = 8 million pixels. There is much more than just "MP" when comparing cameras silly..
Go get educated, then come back

amirborna said:
Ahh, ignorance is bliss!
Megapixels =/= photo quality directly. Mega pixel = 1 million pixels. 8 MP = 8 million pixels. There is much more than just "MP" when comparing cameras silly..
Go get educated, then come back
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Very true. Tons of megapixels really only help when you want to get huge prints. The two most important parts of a camera in my opinion are the image sensor and the lens, neither of which are going to be that great on any phone camera. I think the pictures the Evo takes are pretty good for a phone.

The evo camera isn't amazing... but if you need quality pictures, DON'T RELY ON YOUR PHONE. It's a ****ing phone! Get yourself a point and shoot or a DSLR.

Guys guys think about it phone cameras has came a long way from back in the early days. Soon these cameras will take the place of point and shoot. If you want better get DSLR. I have seen some great
Photos around the forum. The camera in this EVO are capable of taking great photos plus EVO has the processor to handle it more than what a point and shoot has. Soon cell phones will be getting dual cores. But until then it is this whack stock software that is processing the photos. Take the iPhone 5mp camera making the EVO picture look bad because they have a great camera software. Only if somebody can write a better camera app if I could code that would of been the first app I would of made. That and a better video conferencing app.
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Mecha2142 said:
Ok, two things to point out here
1. The Droid X and iPhone did not destroy the Evo in terms of camera. Camcorder wise yes, but not the camera itself. That's working just fine, and I haven't heard too many complaints about the camera itself. Most cell phone cameras at this level produce similar results.
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As someone who has owned and used both the iPhone 4 and the Evo (returned my iP4 for the Evo), I can confidently say that the iP4's camera does indeed destroy the one on the Evo. I love my Evo and wouldn't switch back if you paid me, but the cameras aren't even in the same league.
The Evo takes photos which are on-par with the smartphones we've all seen and used over the last few years. They're okay. You can put the pics up on your website, etc., but I wouldn't rely on the Evo for anything particularly important. The iP4's camera, on the other hand, is just amazing. It can hold its own against any of the typical $200 - $300 non-DSLR cameras on the market and, therefore, can effectively be your everyday, walking around camera.
The best summary I can give is that the Evo's camera is a good to okay camera -- for a cell phone. The iP4's camera is a very good camera -- period.

AvatarOfFrost said:
Seriously, how can they call this an 8MP camera?
No matter what menu settings, location, lighting I choose MOST of the pics always come out looking like garbage. Really fuzzy.
No wonder Droid X and iPhone's camera destroyed this in the tests.
And the camcorder is another good joke from HTC. 720p video recording? Really? Total joke.
What kind of magical settings do you people use to make it look better?
Maybe I will hire a professional photographer/lighting specialist to follow me all over 24/7 just in case I need to take some decent pics with this damn thing.
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Are you judging the fuzzy picture at first glance? By that I mean preview after your shot or in gallery? Because sometimes the picture if you don't zoom in it can look really fuzzy and then when you zoom in a title bit it corrects the picture quality and be very clear. Also download them to your pc and see how they actually turn out. You might be surprised. I am an avid amateur photographer so I use DSLR to shoot pictures. In good light the camera and software combo isn't bad. It has horrible low light capability but then again its a phone camera. And as many people said a few tweak here and there with the software and it will make a big difference. I know when they tweaked the HTC HD2 phone I had it made a world of difference. I know it will happen on this phone too. We have to let some get past the linpacks and quadrant scores for a little while before cameras become the hot topic
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the pictures aren't the greatest but i have gotten some really good ones. I attached a few. People need to quit complaining though, it's a damn phone and the quality isn't half bad, if we can make it better then so be it but it's good as it is. These are from when i took my lil sisters to the zoo we were at the butterfly garden. I didn't edit these at all and they look even better on my phone

Its inferior to other devices so actually we should complain. Sure you can get nice shots but its anything but automatic.

I don't think it's that bad. Took this picture a month ago.

I agree on both sides here...the camera is pretty decent, but I do believe software improvements can and should be made.
Hasn't it been posted here that the camera manufacturer is the same as the ip4's?

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Seriously, how can they call this an 8MP camera?
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I really have to pick on this.
They can call it an 8MP camera because it IS an 8MP sensor that produces a photograph that contains 8 million pixels.

Cicatrize said:
I really have to pick on this.
They can call it an 8MP camera because it IS an 8MP sensor that produces a photograph that contains 8 million pixels.
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Exactly. I would have to say that's one of the reasons for the "megapixels aren't everything" argument. It's just a description of how many pixels the sensor can produce like you said.
If you have a bigger sensor (which is difficult in a cellphone camera obviously) like in a DSLR, you get bigger pixels. I freakin' love my new Canon Rebel T2i I just bought last week!

improvements to video with Froyo

What exactly did HTC fix or improve in video recording? Running stock 2.1 every 5 seconds i had sound problems where it would sort of pause for about one second and now on a different evo with 2.2 same problem. Anyone else experienced this?
This is only when recording with 720p.

goldt said:
What exactly did HTC fix or improve in video recording? Running stock 2.1 every 5 seconds i had sound problems where it would sort of pause for about one second and now on a different evo with 2.2 same problem. Anyone else experienced this?
This is only when recording with 720p.
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I had this problem in 2.1. Haven't had a chance to test it in 2.2. I'll try to post back when I have tested it.

Not having your problem, but a bigger one. Fresh 2.2 - 3.0.1 and shot a lot of outdoor videos this week in Hawaii using lots of different settings: h.254/480 and MPEG4/720 - It all looks like ****!!! Therefore, a much bigger problem.

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Not having your problem, but a bigger one. Fresh 2.2 - 3.0.1 and shot a lot of outdoor videos this week in Hawaii using lots of different settings: h.254/480 and MPEG4/720 - It all looks like ****!!! Therefore, a much bigger problem.
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evo is a terrible recording device. The software is junk, the parts are junk. Theres no end to how frustrated I am with the audio quality of the videos recorded. Instead of lugging around a dedicated video recorder and a phone I think I might just get an iphone 4.. I love recording videos and uploading them to youtube/facebook for people to see my life @ concerts,clubs.. its just retarded how htc boned us and cheaped out on one of the most important selling points of this phone.. I feel ripped off.. slapped in the face..
Hell the ipod nano 5th generation has better video/audio quality then evo's "720 P"

crakerjaks said:
evo is a terrible recording device. The software is junk, the parts are junk. Theres no end to how frustrated I am with the audio quality of the videos recorded. Instead of lugging around a dedicated video recorder and a phone I think I might just get an iphone 4.. I love recording videos and uploading them to youtube/facebook for people to see my life @ concerts,clubs.. its just retarded how htc boned us and cheaped out on one of the most important selling points of this phone.. I feel ripped off.. slapped in the face..
Hell the ipod nano 5th generation has better video/audio quality then evo's "720 P"
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are you serious, your complaining about the specs and the capability of a CELL PHONE?! you ungrateful bastard, go buy a ipod nano then. theres nothing worse that someone that cant appreciate today's technology.

crakerjaks said:
evo is a terrible recording device. The software is junk, the parts are junk. Theres no end to how frustrated I am with the audio quality of the videos recorded. Instead of lugging around a dedicated video recorder and a phone I think I might just get an iphone 4.. I love recording videos and uploading them to youtube/facebook for people to see my life @ concerts,clubs.. its just retarded how htc boned us and cheaped out on one of the most important selling points of this phone.. I feel ripped off.. slapped in the face..
Hell the ipod nano 5th generation has better video/audio quality then evo's "720 P"
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I agree with this. The video recording on the EVO is a total joke. 720p my ass! More like 120p.
Droid X and iPhone 4 are worlds apart in this category. Sad!
Personally, I don't think the photo camera is all that good either. In fact I think its also **** for a so-called 8MP camera.
Thanks HTC!

Htc needs to fix this....a majority can be fixed threw software...lazy htc ...we sould email or boycott or something.

jcalba89 said:
are you serious, your complaining about the specs and the capability of a CELL PHONE?! you ungrateful bastard, go buy a ipod nano then. theres nothing worse that someone that cant appreciate today's technology.
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I tempered my expectations because I knew it was a phone, but when two of your selling points are 8mp camera and 720p recording they should be decent.
I have had good luck using the camera, and I gotten great shots (especially considering it is a phone) But the stock camcorder was HORRIBLE, and it makes 720p fans cry!
Cyanogen's rom has made video recording better for me.

jcalba89 said:
are you serious, your complaining about the specs and the capability of a CELL PHONE?! you ungrateful bastard, go buy a ipod nano then. theres nothing worse that someone that cant appreciate today's technology.
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calm down dad... theres nothing worse then someone who can't appreciate proper implementation of today's technology..

lmao @ evo-bashing and comparing to gayphone4 hahaha...
I bet you genius's haven't even taken off the film covering the camera and are still crying like a bunch of little kids on x-mas because you didn't get your easy bake oven... my 720p recordings come out crystal clear with awesome sound quality...
ib4l

Yeah I'm going to say that the video quality on the EVO is fantastic but there's a lot of work to be done.
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I use a camera for pictures and a camcorder for vids would never depend on a cell phone for memories i want to keep.
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weezer562 said:
I use a camera for pictures and a camcorder for vids would never depend on a cell phone for memories i want to keep.
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That's what people without good video quality will say! You dont hear this from iPhone poeple and I work and take phone calls from them everyday.
They complain about multi tasking..... Give me better video HTC

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lmao @ evo-bashing and comparing to gayphone4 hahaha...
I bet you genius's haven't even taken off the film covering the camera and are still crying like a bunch of little kids on x-mas because you didn't get your easy bake oven... my 720p recordings come out crystal clear with awesome sound quality...
ib4l
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This genius took the plastic off in the store.
This genius is also a professional photographer and knows the limitations of cameras and lenses so I expected little from a cell phone, but I experienced less than I expected.
The video is not 720p, that is a downright lie.
The 8mp camera, yes it is 8mp, but it is poor quality.
I run CM6 and it has a slightly better take on the cam and camcorder.
Even after multiple attempts to adjust the media_profiles.xml and the different configuration files there is little we can get from it. There is an entire thread about this is 28 pages long.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=711808
And I almost forgot, obvious troll is obvious.

[CLOSED/G2] Something dealing with vid recording

I noticed with the nexus one stock 2.2, vid recording was okay, but the vibrants blew it out of the water. It had a better framerate, better pic quality, and most of all for me, BETTER SOUND. Hence my reason for making this thread. I was wondering if the g2 would still have that low bitrate stock AMR codec..i really hope not.
Any input on this?

according to the rep i talked to(HTC) the camera in it as a 5MP looked 10x better than the 8MP they tested and the cpu+gpu combo should help as well
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I watched a Desire Z video on youtube in 720p and it looked like cheap floating lense (Like it was underwater while moving around)

have yet to find a phone which had decent vid recording. iphone did it a okay job but its pretty shaky and sucks when filming motion.

If its anything like the MTS, it'll be worth it to me. The MTS recorded in 640x480 which looked pretty darn good to me. I mean its a phone in the end. The 720p res should look pretty darn good. I've been totally satisfied with the camera/video on the MTS and it looks like the G2 will be an even better camera plus way better video... so I'll be happy!

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have yet to find a phone which had decent vid recording. iphone did it a okay job but its pretty shaky and sucks when filming motion.
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Yeah, the shutter speed has a ways to go in mobile cameras.

It'll have to be better than my Nexus One's 720p hack. So I'll be satisfied.

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It'll have to be better than my Nexus One's 720p hack. So I'll be satisfied.
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But WHAT ABOUT THE AUDIO! lol. But seriously, my nexus clips sounded like crap

Really bad audio on video recordings :(:(

hi..i m currently using the native camera app to capture videos...video quality is very good...but the audio is crap...i was recording a live concert...not exactly a concert though...live music performance...the video turned out very good but the audio really sucked...
since the phones mic is the only source...i would like to know if there is an app that can record good quality videos with decent sound...?
Or is there anyway i can remove noise from the recordings using a software on the pc...any convertor that will convert the video to a format which will output the audio better.
P.S the audio is real bad...just not acceptable...its very hazzy and full of noise
Note : settings used were...720p..mpeg4 codec.
Please HELP !!

I second the OPs inquiry...

The answer, as always, is CM. Video and audio quality is superior in CM.

2.3 fixes this via a new ACC codec. CM7, which is very much alpha, is the best choice. Whether that's worth flashing just for that fix is up to you.
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Award Tour said:
2.3 fixes this via a new ACC codec. CM7, which is very much alpha, is the best choice. Whether that's worth flashing just for that fix is up to you.
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Don't do this yet, though. The camcorder is still not working on CM7.

i hv no time to flash CM or 2.3 right now...was looking for a quick fix...some app/codec or tweak that will enable me to record better audio...or i don mind if theres a software for the pc which will rectify the recordings later...i need to do 3 hrs of live recording tomm...and sound is very vital !

i too would love better audio

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Don't do this yet, though. The camcorder is still not working on CM7.
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My video camera is working fine for me....
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camcorder is fixed in cm7 lithid kang builds

techspark said:
i hv no time to flash CM or 2.3 right now...was looking for a quick fix...some app/codec or tweak that will enable me to record better audio...or i don mind if theres a software for the pc which will rectify the recordings later...i need to do 3 hrs of live recording tomm...and sound is very vital !
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If it is so vital and you don't have time to flash a ROM, then march yourself to Best Buy or your nearest electronics store and buy a camcorder. Relying on a "phone" to record "vital" video and audio is not the way to go.

^^ camcorder is out of budget...already spent a lot on d evo..so need to wait a while to get a good camcorder...
[offtopic]do camcorders record audio better..or do u need to buy some production mic to get better audio on video recordings in scenerios like music concerts..? Are there some ports on the camcorder to feed in the audio thru cables etc ?

yes, the video quality is pretty bad even at the max settings. i've never been happy with it.
if you got it less than a month ago, and the video is THAT important to you, you should return the phone and get an even exchange for the Samsung Epic.
The video recording on the Epic is amazing. Even better than the iPhone 4. My wife has it and i'm totally jealous of her video quality, which rivals our flip camcorder.
Besides that, the Evo is a much better phone in almost every way.
but if you're specifically looking for an amazing camcorder and not much else, go get yourself an Epic.

i got it 2 months back.
i donno but technically evo should record better video and audio as opposed to epic...the fact that evo has 8mp...mpeg4 codecs and features like light correction etc...i know 8mp don matter much but technically more the pixels better is the resolution and naturally better quality....is software the culprit in case of evo or is it that i m missing something abt the hardware of both phones ?

techspark said:
i got it 2 months back.
i donno but technically evo should record better video and audio as opposed to epic...the fact that evo has 8mp...mpeg4 codecs and features like light correction etc...i know 8mp don matter much but technically more the pixels better is the resolution and naturally better quality....is software the culprit in case of evo or is it that i m missing something abt the hardware of both phones ?
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The point that you are missing is you are trying to use a phone as a replacement for a camcorder.

techspark said:
i got it 2 months back.
i donno but technically evo should record better video and audio as opposed to epic...the fact that evo has 8mp...mpeg4 codecs and features like light correction etc...i know 8mp don matter much but technically more the pixels better is the resolution and naturally better quality....is software the culprit in case of evo or is it that i m missing something abt the hardware of both phones ?
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MP means very little outside of how many pixels at maximum the photo can be made of. With EVO vs Epic video recording its a non issue since both record at the same size -720p- and no larger. Outside of MP, the Epic's sensor is just better; it may capture less pixels at its maximum but the pixels that it does capture will be of higher quality. A lot of people have said that the Epic takes better photos than the iPhone 4; and we just had a long thread where it was found out that the reason why the iPhone 4 shoots better than the EVO is because it does indeed have a better sensor. That's likely the same reason why the SGS/Epic are better too.
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Award Tour said:
MP means very little outside of how many pixels at maximum the photo can be made of. With EVO vs Epic video recording its a non issue since both record at the same size -720p- and no larger. Outside of MP, the Epic's sensor is just better; it may capture less pixels at its maximum but the pixels that it does capture will be of higher quality. A lot of people have said that the Epic takes better photos than the iPhone 4; and we just had a long thread where it was found out that the reason why the iPhone 4 shoots better than the EVO is because it does indeed have a better sensor. That's likely the same reason why the SGS/Epic are better too.
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Exactly.
HTC makes great phones, but are notorious for making horrible camera sensors. This is because, besides from tacking them on to phones, the DON'T MAKE CAMERAS and have no experience in it and little budget to fix it up.
On the other hand, Samsung has been making digital cameras for the last 10 years and are even better known for their cameras than their phones. So, they have more money and research behind this form of technology. So they just slay at making cameras for phones as well.

bweisholtz said:
Exactly.
HTC makes great phones, but are notorious for making horrible camera sensors. This is because, besides from tacking them on to phones, the DON'T MAKE CAMERAS and have no experience in it and little budget to fix it up.
On the other hand, Samsung has been making digital cameras for the last 10 years and are even better known for their cameras than their phones. So, they have more money and research behind this form of technology. So they just slay at making cameras for phones as well.
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which is why i want a Galaxy S phone on Sprint but no slideout keyboard...Epic without keyboard. Come on Sprint!

bweisholtz said:
HTC makes great phones, but are notorious for making horrible camera sensors. This is because, besides from tacking them on to phones, the DON'T MAKE CAMERAS and have no experience in it and little budget to fix it up.
On the other hand, Samsung has been making digital cameras for the last 10 years and are even better known for their cameras than their phones. So, they have more money and research behind this form of technology. So they just slay at making cameras for phones as well.
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If this is the case, I wish HTC would buy their camera sensors from Samsung...

billyman said:
If this is the case, I wish HTC would buy their camera sensors from Samsung...
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Has very little to do with what he said. The iPhone and EVO use sensors from the same company. The difference is in product direction. Apple aims for quality, HTC aims for numbers. People expect Apple products to be easy and to work good; most of them don't have a clue what a mega pixel is or does. HTC doesn't have the same product positioning as Apple so they rely on marketing numbers to persuade people (3 more MP then the iPhone 4!!!). At least that's my view.

snowpunter said:
The answer, as always, is CM. Video and audio quality is superior in CM.
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Is this really true? I always though that whenever i recorded or took pics with a CM rom it look a little bit better pics or shot better vids than any sense rom just did not know it was ture, or is it? What makes it better?