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Have to restart phone to regain GPRS connetion

I Have to restart phone to regain GPRS connetion every now and then. I have radio version 1.01.00 and rom version 1.03.00 WWE. My provider is Vodafone in sweden.
If I go to flight mode and back to normal then I can connect to GPRS again. Should I uppgrade my I-Mate to get it to work? Any Ideas what to do?

I've heard of people with similar problems, you need to upgrade your Rom, if you wanna stay relatively safe, upgrade to:
Rom Version: 1.72.00WWE
U can get this from club imate

I'm afraid I can´t find the rom on the Imate Club site. But you belive my problem will be solved by uppgrading the rom right? I´ll have to search for it then. ;c) Thanks.

I sure don't see any version 1.72 on Club iMate at JAM Device Support. The latest available upgrade I see is:
Radio 1.01.00
ROM 1.03.143 WWE
Where do you see version 1.72?
Frank

I believe he's referring to the wrong device. 1.72 was for the I-Mate Pocket PC - not the Jam.

Ok. I have posted a case to Imate and they where about to send a file to correct the problem but I got an emty mail.

Imate support don't know what this is. I'm back on the hunt. Anybody else having the same problem with theirs? Please let me know in this thred

Sincere Apologies, I was in fact dreferring to the I-mate....didnt realise this thread was under magician

Got an ansver from Imate. They sent me an PDF file where they showed me how to set up the GPRS connection. The problem is, been there and done that. I’m totally lost here. Is it only me who has this problem with “magican” and Vodafone? (In Sweden). Frustrating! ;c(
Note: With my P800 and the same location and same SIM = no probem at all.

I have the exact same problem with Vodafone gprs in Sweden
Hi Robert
I have the exact same problem with GPRS. I am also a customer of Vodafone in Sweden. I have this problem regardless of the device I am using. I have been running Qtek 2020, 8010, 9090 and S100 (magician) devices with the same problem for quite a while now.
I have started to think that this is not a device problem. It is probably a problem with Vodafone GPRS. I have contacted their tech support a couple of times about this. So far we have tried disabling/reenabling GPRS on my account and switching to new Sim-cards. None of this has worked so far.
I am using their twin cards service switching between different phones, I am not sure if this has anything to do with the problem.
best regards
Christofer

Thanks a lot for giving me this feedback. I'll talk to Vodafone right away.

Solution: I know that Telia supports the magican device because they have them for sale. My solution was to call Telia and tell them that I wanted to use them instead. Its a covards solution but Imate blames Vodafone and Vodafone blames Imate.

I have an old Qtek1010 on Telia, and it is behaving just like your Magician on Vodaphone. Sometimes I have to actually remove the SIM and put it back in again to be able to reconnect.
Another question about the Magician and GPRS. I have read on a couple of forums that the Magician will not keep the GPRS connection alive when in "sleep mode". Is this true? If so I may have to quickly cancel my order...

bamse said:
Another question about the Magician and GPRS. I have read on a couple of forums that the Magician will not keep the GPRS connection alive when in "sleep mode". Is this true? If so I may have to quickly cancel my order...
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My gprs connection seems to stay connected ok even when the machine is switched "off". I have an imate jam on o2 in the UK.
I don't know if it stays on forever because i tend to log off gprs so i can go on line through bluetooth.
Simon

This is really bad news. I thought that since Telia do have thoose phones for sale they should have tested them in the net. In that case I should start thinking of going back to my old P800 instead of changing provider.
I Wonder if there are someone in here who it works for in sweden. Please let me know.

I have several collegues who are not experiencing these problems with Qtek devices on Vodafone network. So it does not seem to be a general problem.

RobertDahlberg said:
This is really bad news. I thought that since Telia do have thoose phones for sale they should have tested them in the net. In that case I should start thinking of going back to my old P800 instead of changing provider.
I Wonder if there are someone in here who it works for in sweden. Please let me know.
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I just talked to Telia today as my GPRS broke down totally and there was just nothing that would make it connect. The person I talked to was very helpful and professional and we managed to isolate the problem to my SIM card. Being a brand new SIM I received just two weeks ago I though that just anything but the SIM would be more probable. It was very evident though as my SIM would not work with GPRS in neither mine nor a colleauges phone but the colleauges SIM would work just fine in both.
My new SIM will arrive on monday, and then hopefully it will not be too long before my S100 arrives as well

Ok, thats somewhat god news. Then there is hope to accually use this expensive piece of toy as it is suppose to.

Some input…
I have a Qtek S100 and run it with Telia. Works just fine, never have to reset or remove the SIM. However, I have problem with the GPRS to disconnect when synchronized with my PC and when using the phone. Have heard that an app called GPRS Keep Alive would solve that problem, haven’t tried it yet.
// Johnny

Re: Some input…
Johnny said:
I have a Qtek S100 and run it with Telia. Works just fine, never have to reset or remove the SIM. However, I have problem with the GPRS to disconnect when synchronized with my PC and when using the phone. Have heard that an app called GPRS Keep Alive would solve that problem, haven’t tried it yet.
// Johnny
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It will not. For two reasons:
1. There can only be one network connection at a time, and the activesync connection counts as a network connection (you can use network passthrough to use the activesync connection for network access from the PPC).
2. You can not have a GSM voice connection and an active GPRS connection simultaneously because they share the same radio hardware. Simultaneous GPRS and Voice would need two radios in the phone, and although it has been part of the GSM specification for quite some time there are no such device available on the consumer market yet.

softbank email address

Hi Friends,
regards to all and happy new jear.
Somebody of yours know the email address of softbank assistance?
I have a crazy problem with the pda SB X01HT
The device find and connect it by wifi to the router network, but ... in the connections panel there is not any possibility to use the wireless network.
I think that I lost or cancel the driver that manage the connection or that in the register there is a wrong instruction.
My big problem is that I bought the pda in thailand 1 month ago , in the box was only instructions and sw in jap language that I don't know, I was happy of my purchase, some days after I was in Vietnam, by wifi and skype I was online with my family easily 1 hour each day.
Now if I don't find the solution I have to wait my next trip to thailand in march to solve with tech service my problem.
I hope to find by any, the email address of softbank to ask them how solve my problem now
Or may be that somebody have the original SB register list that I can use to check if all it is right?
thanks for reply
Black Eagle

BLACK EAGLE said:
Hi Friends,
regards to all and happy new jear.
Somebody of yours know the email address of softbank assistance?
I have a crazy problem with the pda SB X01HT
The device find and connect it by wifi to the router network, but ... in the connections panel there is not any possibility to use the wireless network.
I think that I lost or cancel the driver that manage the connection or that in the register there is a wrong instruction.
My big problem is that I bought the pda in thailand 1 month ago , in the box was only instructions and sw in jap language that I don't know, I was happy of my purchase, some days after I was in Vietnam, by wifi and skype I was online with my family easily 1 hour each day.
Now if I don't find the solution I have to wait my next trip to thailand in march to solve with tech service my problem.
I hope to find by any, the email address of softbank to ask them how solve my problem now
Or may be that somebody have the original SB register list that I can use to check if all it is right?
thanks for reply
Black Eagle
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http://mb.softbank.jp/mb/en/support/
before you contact softbank, you should understand softbank does not export x01ht, does not sell unlocked phones or does not sell x01ht with english windows mobile 5.0. they only sell x01ht with a mobile phone contract.
if your device is unlocked or has english windows mobile 5.0 or you do not have a contract with softbank, it was sold either as an invalid second hand or as a result of fraud.
if you told softbank that you got your device in thailand, it was unlocked or had english windows, i am 100% positive they would not help you. also, softbank warranty is good only in japan. *hint hint*
you should talk with the person from who you bought your device...
hard reset first to check if it's really broken.
by the way, it's hard to understand what is really a problem with your wifi setting... wifi connection is not in connections but in WiFi (Wiress LAN?) in my control panel...

Hi qtotter,
the problem is like if my SB lost one part of sw instructions or the dedicate sw that advise the main sw the presence of wireless network.
Crazy is that I had make the hard reset because the browser ie was work just with umts/gprs when skype was working perfectly by using of wifi - after the hard reset even skype stop to work.
may be that you can help me? to send me the register list to check?
If it is like you show me, I am not really unfortunate in my next trip to thailand surely I want money back or changes to another device ...

BLACK EAGLE said:
Hi qtotter,
the problem is like if my SB lost one part of sw instructions or the dedicate sw that advise the main sw the presence of wireless network.
Crazy is that I had make the hard reset because the browser ie was work just with umts/gprs when skype was working perfectly by using of wifi - after the hard reset even skype stop to work.
may be that you can help me? to send me the register list to check?
If it is like you show me, I am not really unfortunate in my next trip to thailand surely I want money back or changes to another device ...
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hi b eagle,
i did not mean hardreset by pushing the reset button. please read here;
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_For_Beginners#hardreset
(remember you will loose all data by hardreset!!)
i wanna help you, but i don't understand what you are really looking for... what do you mean by "the register list to check"? registry? if so, which key of the registry do you need?

WIFI connected but ...
Hi qtotter,
with the link that you sent me I find the reply to some questions:
My ppc is branded SB but inside there is the tytn english sw, the extended ROM contain the: HTC TyTN 1.18.255.106 ExtROM WWE
I had hard reset but nothing change!
The NETWORK MANAGER show me that the tytn is CONNECT to wifi but in the CONNECTIONS always appear no any presence of WIRELESS SERVICES that I can use to browse my server , internet and/or skype
Really I don't unterstand what's happen!
with this now what you think about?
may be that there are corrupted files that avoid to install few commands?
Regards Freddie
PS: which are the other part of sw that are install from the device supplier but that are not include inside the rom place?

Dead WiFi - Solution for Hermes also for Wizard?

Hi guys,
ever since my provider changed the stock Chinese ROM to an English ROM my Wizard's WiFi is dead. Unfortunately the provider is not willing to help but refer me to HTC.
Anyway, it seems I am sharing this problem with a significant amount of Hermes users. Luckily for the Hermes users, Drummer presented a solution:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=322225
My question would be twofold:
1. any other Wizard user having same problem with a dead WiFi?
2. any chance to adapt the solution given for the Hermes to Wizard (and how)?
Basically I understand what needs to be done (i.e. to "repair" a corrupted MAC address), but how can I identify the right location of the MAC address in the Wizard?
Cheers!

Interesting ... so none of the current "active" Wizard users on this forum faces this problem except for me (... and 3 other colleagues of mine).

Hmmm....
I read that and it's above my skillset at the moment. I have the same problem but am not entirely sure it is due to this.
Mine will work sporadically for a while then quit.
Almost as if it's a hardware issue and if I take the battery away long enough, it will work for a while then quit.
But I'm baffled as well because when it works, it works well.

Ipaqkiller,
thanks for the reply. In my case I did not get the WIFI up and running at all ever.
It seems it is not worth the effort with the "repairing" of the MAC address if so few have this problem (my colleagues don't bother about the missing WIFI as they just use the WIZARD as a ordinary mobile).
Best shot is to convince HTC to restore the EEPROM data (as my provider rejects to help) ...

Any ideas?
I received a new HTC Touch from my Chinese carrier - guess what's the problem with it .... yes, also no WLAN feature, even the comm manager does not offer the button for WLAN ...
I learnt from a mobile shop that normally my Chinese carrier deactivates/ does not offer any mobile with WLAN ... so my problem seems not a bad ROM update corrupting the MAC address but rather a business model of my carrier .. don't know though whether it is based on software settings or that there is even a hardware component missing ...
(1) Can anyone confirm that they have same experience with their Chinese carrier de-activating the WLAN feature in the mobiles?
(2) How can I tell whether the WLAN module (hardware) is there (without phisically opening the Wizard) and could be re-activated via software?
(As said, I already uploaded the Wizard with different ROMs (incl. changes of IPL/SPL, radio rom etc.) but never got WLAN working ..

wlan prob
my wizard also is havin prob like this..
my wizard searches the wlan but didnt connect it..
it says connecting....then suddenly it stops...and gives error not available..what kind of problem is that..
plz tell me what should i do?

BB Connect

Any solution for use this service on polaris????
I'm not be able to retrive PIN:code.
Best Regards

Hi
BlackBerry Connect is hard coded via the BES Server you connect to. It will only allow you to run BBC on 'approved ROMs' (i.e. WM6.0 only and specific radio stacks only). If your device and stack aren't right you will connect momentarily and then you will be disconnected,
There is a german o2 ROM that supports BBC but I've not seen that in a while and you'll have to search for it.
Yours
Leon

this isnt true!
Radio Stack Version isnt checkt via BBC! They only check OS Version, AKU Value and Device Name. Some times the check your Provider too!
If BBC doesnt work ... mess around with the AKU Version. The easiest way to get it up and rounding ... use original Polaris Firmware.

I still don't know anyone who's been able to get it to work. This has been discussed in several different threads. Here's one.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2091924#post2091924
I am using Exchange push mail now, which in my opinion is better anyway. The BC software is a resource hog and if Exchange is an option for you, I advise that route.

ok, here is another one. i have a orbit 2 (htc-polaris), bebe's ROM 0.67, vodafone germany blackberry SIM and version 4.0.0.97.
i dont get any PIN (Pending) and no stable connection.
but it seems there are workarounds by changing settings in registry, to let blackberry think you have another configuration. but i dont know any details.
anyone managed it to work?

HTC Touch 3G "Orange Unique"

Hi , I recently got a HTC Touch 3G from Orange as i had the HTC TyII and love that phone with the wifi and now i have this new phone that seems quite good however has been changed with the Orange Unique that allows you to connect to wifi but not use it , why would they do this? (money making). The Unique technology don't do any thing that it clams to do i don't seem to get better coverage or any thing, just high data costs and a low batter.
I want to use the wifi on my phone for the internet and google maps etc, is the only way around this to flash my phone to a ROM on this site ? If so i understand that is voids my warranty , but want to know if any one has done this successfully (Hope Orange hasn't put a block on Flashing etc)so that i can do the same because i do miss my wifi and may just go back to my HTC TyII .
Thanks

hi mate i got mine about 2 weeks ago.. n hacked the ass out of it... it too was Orange UK
i was disgusted when i got it to fined it would not use the wifi as a net connection! but it sure does now and i love it!
i will get you some links in a bit

I seriously suggest using a an XP pc... i have vista on my laptop and i found it didnt work as it should... you alos dont see the files of the actual phone on vista u just see the memory card!
with xp you see everything!
first go here and modifiy the SPL to HPSL this bascially unlocks the phone to allow you to flash new roms (but its not sim unlock etc) you need to do this or flashing another rom will not work!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=483465
next you need http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=441865
and you then put that in the same folder as the rom file you wish to flash!
i go for this one - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524102 as recommended by Flub..
i really love it!
im sure others will correct me if i have missed anything but this is basically what i did!!
enjoy!

Thanks alot
thanks for your help

Wifi doesn't work at all
Hello there,
I am completely new to HTC world. Recently I bought Touch 3g locked to Orange and am currently using it with O2 after unlocking. Could never use its wifi until now with the Unique even on Orange.
I had only seen some web pages when connected through the Orange 3G.
Could you please let me know how can I remove the Unique and use it as non-Orange HTC?
Many thanks.

Touch 3g Orange
Guys, I have a touch 3g branded from Orange. Used Hard SPL - ensure you have the correct version, and that it installs correctly - reaad the hard SPL posts on how to do this - carefully - and read them again toensure you have the correct version and it loads correctly, then flash whatever rom you require - I went with the standard one and it worked first time, perfectly.
Wifi is rock solid, and it has lost all the rubbish suppressions that Orange introduced in their rom.
Good luck - reading around these forum will solve your issues no problem

Thank you neilcbennett!
I will try to work out hard spl. Wish me gud luck i'm doing this for first time!

DJHicks said:
I seriously suggest using a an XP pc... i have vista on my laptop and i found it didnt work as it should... you alos dont see the files of the actual phone on vista u just see the memory card!
with xp you see everything!
first go here and modifiy the SPL to HPSL this bascially unlocks the phone to allow you to flash new roms (but its not sim unlock etc) you need to do this or flashing another rom will not work!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=483465
next you need http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=441865
and you then put that in the same folder as the rom file you wish to flash!
i go for this one - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524102 as recommended by Flub..
i really love it!
im sure others will correct me if i have missed anything but this is basically what i did!!
enjoy!
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I did all of this but used the updated official ROM from HTC. I could not get the file from the HTC website because it says my S/N is not compatible, I can only assume that this is because HTC have agreed to not release the software to Orange units forcing us poor customers to pay to use 3G internet rather than free WI-FI. A bit of searching led me to an English version hoseted on another website:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/gdoyj...1_Radio_Sign_12. 41.30.16_0.41.30.12_Ship.exe
Works a treat and i love it!
Cheers guys

Wifi & Orange on Touch 3G
Hi Guys,
I specifically asked in the shop that it run WiFi and was ,mis-informed by the sales guy. Not his fault he was brain washed.
Anyway, came here did Hardspl & Tommy34's rom. Its great solved a battery drain (auto off wans't working) & I'm now able to easily turn off 3g until I really need it or get an o2 eqivalant tariff. WiFi works perfectly.

sever155 said:
I did all of this but used the updated official ROM from HTC. I could not get the file from the HTC website because it says my S/N is not compatible, I can only assume that this is because HTC have agreed to not release the software to Orange units forcing us poor customers to pay to use 3G internet rather than free WI-FI. A bit of searching led me to an English version hoseted on another website:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/gdoyj...1_Radio_Sign_12. 41.30.16_0.41.30.12_Ship.exe
Works a treat and i love it!
Cheers guys
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Used that myself and worked a treat - many thanks. Wasn't sure if it was for UK phones but it seemed to work ok. Now happily using Wifi.

Tessa1969 said:
Hi Guys,
I specifically asked in the shop that it run WiFi and was ,mis-informed by the sales guy. Not his fault he was brain washed.
Anyway, came here did Hardspl & Tommy34's rom. Its great solved a battery drain (auto off wans't working) & I'm now able to easily turn off 3g until I really need it or get an o2 eqivalant tariff. WiFi works perfectly.
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After updating the ROM, can you guys still use Orange 3G or do you have to use an alternative provider for internet access?

Those of you that still have the original orange UMA software, I think I have a fix for you that allows UMA to still work but uses your own wifi. Perhaps someone could roll it in to a cab or executable for me if it works.
Make sure you have disconnected any gprs connection that you may already have, change the registry key below and you can test whether it has worked or not by going to http://orangeworld.co.uk/ in a browser. If it is using your wifi you should get "The page you are trying to access is only available via your Orange phone, when connected via the Orange GPRS network. If you are a BlackBerry user trying to access via the BlackBerry Internet Service Browser please change your default Browser to OrangeWorld through which this portal is available."
there is a slight speed lag when resolving dns names I think, but maybe someone can refine the fix that I have come up with.
It has to be run each time the phone is booted:-
REGEDIT4
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\ConnMgr\Providers\{f792e23c-dc19-4668-9be4-f8688b4c18d6}\DSFLTR_UKSC_TNETW12511]
"DestId"="{436EF144-B4FB-4863-A041-8F905A62C572}"
------------
to restore the original value change DestID back to {4BECC613-31B8-4A62-80DC-893041D24D92}
Let me know how you get on.

I used sever155's link to the HK_WWE 2.33.721.1 Rom... and I too am very pleased with the transformation of my phone . thanks for sharing.

sever155 said:
i did all of this but used the updated official rom from htc. I could not get the file from the htc website because it says my s/n is not compatible, i can only assume that this is because htc have agreed to not release the software to orange units forcing us poor customers to pay to use 3g internet rather than free wi-fi. A bit of searching led me to an english version hoseted on another website:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/gdoyj...1_radio_sign_12. 41.30.16_0.41.30.12_ship.exe
works a treat and i love it!
Cheers guys :d
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merci!!!!!

Like others - I've flashed a new ROM to replace the Orange one. It works great - but I need to return the phone to Orange for a replacement for another reason (found a defect in the case).
I dumped the original Orange ROM - and am all set to flash the device back to its original state.
But I forgot to make a note of the original ROM version number before dumping!
HTC Rom Tool allows me to enter anything but I assume when they get the phone back Orange will want to see an appropriate version number.
Anyone know what it should be for a new Orange branded HTC Touch 3G?
And the country ID for UK? And the model ID? Should it be Jade110 rather than Jade100?

DJHicks said:
I seriously suggest using a an XP pc... i have vista on my laptop and i found it didnt work as it should... you alos dont see the files of the actual phone on vista u just see the memory card!
with xp you see everything!
first go here and modifiy the SPL to HPSL this bascially unlocks the phone to allow you to flash new roms (but its not sim unlock etc) you need to do this or flashing another rom will not work!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=483465
next you need http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=441865
and you then put that in the same folder as the rom file you wish to flash!
i go for this one - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524102 as recommended by Flub..
i really love it!
im sure others will correct me if i have missed anything but this is basically what i did!!
enjoy!
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Thx DJHicks for the info, got it to work on my Touch 3g on Orange UK.

DJHicks said:
I seriously suggest using a an XP pc... i have vista on my laptop and i found it didnt work as it should... you alos dont see the files of the actual phone on vista u just see the memory card!
with xp you see everything!
first go here and modifiy the SPL to HPSL this bascially unlocks the phone to allow you to flash new roms (but its not sim unlock etc) you need to do this or flashing another rom will not work!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=483465
next you need http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=441865
and you then put that in the same folder as the rom file you wish to flash!
i go for this one - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524102 as recommended by Flub..
i really love it!
im sure others will correct me if i have missed anything but this is basically what i did!!
enjoy!
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Hey - a real big thanks to DJHICKS and all the others who his post on flashing a decent ROM on the HTC Touch 3G links to - I was going to ditch my new one from orange 'cus unique manager was so cr** - but he saved the day and taught me a whole lot of new stuff about PDAs!! Can't believe I'm now talking about flashing ROMs! THANKS

Unique service access to the internet
Hi All,
I have the orange touch 3g too and have been able to get on the net using the default rom without patches by using 2 steps.
First as the other post suggested stop the gprs (generic term for data access 3g or otherwise). I did this by changing the server name from "orangeinternet" to orangeinternet." this is done by manage connection from the connections tab on setting screen form the start menu. This stops any data connections.
Then once connected to your wifi at home got the unique manager and advanced setting, network adapter, there is a drop down list with work and internet on it. change it to work and then back to internet and ok it. Then you can get on the internet
The last step you have to repeat every time to you connect to the wifi as it forgets, I think the saved networks don't remember this, but if you don't used the saved networks and have the notification turned on it asks you if the network is internet or not which 'could' solve this problem, either way the steps above work reliably for me. I guess I should mention I have orange broadband too, so I get a unique connection too (the green house), this is the bit I hate the tariff is for orange to orange calls no other network, so I have to keep unique off unless I'm doing something on the internet as any call outside orange would be build as far as I can tell, I've not tried as I don't want the bill for it any info on this would be great.
Cheers

I have a solution
I put in on youtube go have a look http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1RTX3F1bPk thanks BrooksE

I have been unable to download this file - I wonder if it has been removed from mediafire. Have tried several times from different PCs.
Does anyone know where else I can download it from?
I am trying to free myself from Unique but so far have not succeeded depsite trying to follow the instructions in this thread!
sever155 said:
I did all of this but used the updated official ROM from HTC. I could not get the file from the HTC website because it says my S/N is not compatible, I can only assume that this is because HTC have agreed to not release the software to Orange units forcing us poor customers to pay to use 3G internet rather than free WI-FI. A bit of searching led me to an English version hoseted on another website:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/gdoyj...1_Radio_Sign_12. 41.30.16_0.41.30.12_Ship.exe
Works a treat and i love it!
Cheers guys
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