regarding rooting kindly advise - Click General

hi
im planning to buy a tatoo soon i do know that maybe i should wait for the wildfire but then i want to try android and tatoo is within my budget
my question what is rooting is it the same as HSPL done on a Win mo ie u do this to flash any rom u want on a win mo and i see things like a gold card
u see i positively want to flash other cooked Android roms on the tatoo
so kindly advise
thanks in advance

search a little back in this forum and u find someone who asked the same

ariewtf said:
search a little back in this forum and u find someone who asked the same
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Hi
i have been here for some time and i have searched but was not able to find anything on the same anyway their was one nice person who was kind enough to reply to my PM regarding the same and now i seem to understand its like the Hard SPL done for Win Mo

root/
firstly to understand root you need a little linux understanding, a simple definitive answer is here...
http://www.linfo.org/root.html
now back to the tattoo, you will see in the first few threads that guides and how-to's are available to help you root your phone, its easier now than ever,
theres a simple click and wait method, (it works well but you wont really understand whats going on using that method )
the SPL is not the same as root, hard spl allows cooked roms to be flashed and on some devices it re-maps the device memory to give more space ( see G1 danger spl for details )
follow any instruction very carefully if your used to windows mobile - its all a bit different with android, there is so much scope though and lots to learn which is the best bit i feel..
===== have fun =====

terminal 7 said:
firstly to understand root you need a little linux understanding, a simple definitive answer is here...
http://www.linfo.org/root.html
now back to the tattoo, you will see in the first few threads that guides and how-to's are available to help you root your phone, its easier now than ever,
theres a simple click and wait method, (it works well but you wont really understand whats going on using that method )
the SPL is not the same as root, hard spl allows cooked roms to be flashed and on some devices it re-maps the device memory to give more space ( see G1 danger spl for details )
follow any instruction very carefully if your used to windows mobile - its all a bit different with android, there is so much scope though and lots to learn which is the best bit i feel..
===== have fun =====
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hi
thanks for ur kind reply well let me read on the same as u said and then do it

Mod. edit: not dev related, moved to general

nice info guys thanks, from me too

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Newbie puzzled!

Hi guys!
I'm not easily puzzled by terms and stuff to do to tweak your hardware, but since I'm all new to WM, I am trying to make sense of how to go ahead with running a custom ROM. I have a TC with original UK ROM.
First, obviously I should make a dump of my currently installed ROM. I am just very unsure how I achieve that?
Second, I have figured out that I need to Hard-SPL to get rid of certificate-checking in de device to run ROMs.
Third, I need to flash a custom ROM ... at this point I can have my way with the device, and do what I want. Also, not clear how I do that, unfortunately
Offcourse, at some point I will want to return my device for maintenance, warranty or maybe even sell it ... at which point I need to un-do the HardSPL hack, and reflash with the original image ... How would I go about that?
I've searched the forum, and I couldn't find it unfortunately, maybe, since I am a newbie, I missed a term to search for, or maybe I completely misunderstood
Any hints are very welcome!
Mescaline said:
Hi guys!
I'm not easily puzzled by terms and stuff to do to tweak your hardware, but since I'm all new to WM, I am trying to make sense of how to go ahead with running a custom ROM. I have a TC with original UK ROM.
First, obviously I should make a dump of my currently installed ROM. I am just very unsure how I achieve that?
Second, I have figured out that I need to Hard-SPL to get rid of certificate-checking in de device to run ROMs.
Third, I need to flash a custom ROM ... at this point I can have my way with the device, and do what I want. Also, not clear how I do that, unfortunately
Offcourse, at some point I will want to return my device for maintenance, warranty or maybe even sell it ... at which point I need to un-do the HardSPL hack, and reflash with the original image ... How would I go about that?
I've searched the forum, and I couldn't find it unfortunately, maybe, since I am a newbie, I missed a term to search for, or maybe I completely misunderstood
Any hints are very welcome!
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All of your questions had been answered a number of times already in this forum so there's only one thing you can do, Search and you will find the answers.
Hi. I'm actually searching for the same stuff and haven't found some all-in-one topic yet.
Don't mind "kutonglupa", i'm beginning to think he's a bot on this forum. Even though you say (i did it too) that you used the search function he can only come with one response: "use the search".
I'll keep searching too.
Try this for starters: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=356895
You probably know this already
Hard-spl flash:
Download hard-spl
Plug the usb cable to your pda.
Run RomUpdateUtiliy on PC.
PDA will display tricolour.
You will be asked REPLUG you usb cable. DO IT!
After a few second Hard-spl will be upgraded!
Rom flash:
Download the rom
Step manually to bootloader (press and hold camera button and press reset)
You will get a tricolor screen.
Plug the usb cable to your pda
Start RomUpdateUtiliy.exe (or Rom.exe) on you Pc.
Pda screen will be grey, you will see the process indicator.
When it is 100%, update is finished.
Radio-rom flash
The same as rom flash above, just download and use the radio-rom.
Back to offical rom + radio:
The same as rom flash above, just download and use the offical rom!
Back to original spl:
At this time no working method as I know...
katbollie said:
Hi. I'm actually searching for the same stuff and haven't found some all-in-one topic yet.
Mind "kutonglupa", i'm beginning to think he's an Angel on this forum. Even though you say (i did it too) that you used the search function he can only come with one response: "use the search".
I'll keep searching too.
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That's right dude. Keep searching!!!!!!!!!
Mmm, sweet, i've immediatly put it in my sig......in case i can ever help another newby.
(who owning a Polaris would ever think of searching in Kaiser )
katbollie said:
Mmm, sweet, i've immediatly put it in my sig......in case i can ever help another newby.
(who owning a Polaris would ever think of searching in Kaiser )
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See! Now you know you'll find a more comprehensive explanation if you'll just search, init? You've learned the lesson and you've earned your respect. CONGRATS DUDE!
Thanks
Newbie thanks for opening this thread,
it give a very good overview what to really do for flashing the Rom without having to read through XX Pages.
Unfortunately I have still have not found a right link on how to backup my orginal O² German ROM.
What do I need for this just in case I do need to send in the Polaris?
Is the software specifc for the Polaris?
Look forward for a quick note.
Cheers
Rar9
Be careful with what you try from the Kaiser forum in terms of tweaks though, I've read people had problems using them on the Polaris. see the Polaris tips and tricks thread for details
nahguam said:
Your posts in this thread are a good way to get a name for yourself as obnoxious.
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Thanks dude. You're welcome!
I was reading now in the whole forum for about two whole afternoons, and I have to say that I still have the same questions as the threadstarter.
These questions answered once and for all, this thread would be worth pinning in my opinion, because complete newbies don't know where to find the necessary information in this really huge forum.
For the case someone wants to come up again with "use search", I will try to make clear, what problems of newbies (including me) are:
For example: I now already found three different lists of HTC-cab-files in the forum, one here in the polaris-section, one in the general section, a half one in the wiki... often without version-info, and so don't really know whats the actual one...
so far so confusing, I tried to search for the answers onto the exact same questions as the threadstarter posted. in the wiki, there is simply nothing on WM6, no tools, no real how-to, nothing a newbie can use.
Only thing I could understand from wiki, is that cooking an own ROM, needs to have a unix(-like) OS, and even there, I'm not sure if it is still actual for WM6.
Reading a bit around, I then was glad to at least find out that the devices are locked for non-certified ROMs, and that one needs to do that HardSPL.
Well that's as far as I could get until now, and I really don't know much more than before. Pretty unsatisfactory...
So could anyone make (or point to) a little overview of what one needs to know about dumping, flashing WM6-ROMs, and before flashing, what one needs to "cook" an own ROM.
Perhaps I was imagining this way to easy, but I thought about nLite/vLite-style applications for customizing ROMs?! Probably you'll all laugh at me, but I would very much appreciate taking me serious, because I want to learn how to do it. Simply don't want to lose time searching the forum for information, that don't help me advance...
thanks a lot
Eric
EDIT:
well I found this, which I can only recommend to all newbies: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=356895
with this, questions of flashing are all answered,
but what tools one needs for dumping, flashing, editing ROMs and all of the remaining questions mentioned above remain open

What exactly is Hard SPL

Okay, I'm definitely new to this, so I've been doing a ton of reading to learn all I can about roms, etc. I notice that everyone says if you use hard spl, you are less likely of bricking your device. I'm not sure I understand quite how it works, when to do it, what it does, etc. I'm running the stock rom, and I see that I need to do a hard flash first, and then follow the noob's guide to flashing. I've searched the forum, and I've downloaded the latest version of hardsplicev7...but before I do anything, any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks guys...
dougstoner said:
Okay, I'm definitely new to this, so I've been doing a ton of reading to learn all I can about roms, etc. I notice that everyone says if you use hard spl, you are less likely of bricking your device. I'm not sure I understand quite how it works, when to do it, what it does, etc. I'm running the stock rom, and I see that I need to do a hard flash first, and then follow the noob's guide to flashing. I've searched the forum, and I've downloaded the latest version of hardsplicev7...but before I do anything, any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks guys...
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the hard spl will cid unlock the phone allowing you to install any custom rom of your choice.
some roms it is necessary to do it on other it is an option.
if you have any more questions ill be more than happy to answer just pm me
How to Hard-SPL
Are there any detailed instructions available on how to Hard-SPL? I've tried the various threads in xda but can't seem to get anywhere. Obviously, I'm doing something wrong ... looking for detailed instructions with all the files or maybe perhaps a video showing the steps.
Thanks in advance
ilikepu....it turns out, after a lot of reading and studying, you don't need to hard spl to run open touch. I am HAPPY to say, I finally installed open touch v3.0 biggie, and I am blown away at how much better it is than the stock rom. I feel like a kid at Christmas!
hohoeyo, there are some threads with info on how to hard-spl.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332413&highlight=hard+spl
or
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=358225
you should try 4.0 i like it a lot
What's the difference between the 3.0 and 4.0??? Also, it looks like 4.0 doesn't have the touchflo and voice command. It's either one, without the other, or vice-versa

HD2 flashing help

Hey,
I know i sound dumb but i dont care, tried reading through various sticky's and seem so confused with it all
Just got a HD2, updated the rom to the new stock rom of tmobile from htc website seems a bit better than the older rom thats for sure
really need a step by step guide of what i need to do to put the artemis rom on my fone as its seems like a great rom to put on the fone thats stable for everyday use, but dont know where to start or what to do...
anyhelp wud be good, or if people think its easier doing it another way let me know, i tried having a bash at whatever i can manage, but this seems a wee bit out of my grasp....
ty for reading
comon!! search!!
look here step by step guide. even a sticky!! in the section rom developement.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=609477

[Q] Custom ROM upgrade

This past week I installed Android 2.2 on my 1024 HTC HD2 (T-Mobile US) using the Video Tutorial by Tech Burrow and FAQs. I used the Android NAND ROM linked under the video. Everything is working ok and I've been reading the forum and debugging for the past few days...
*this is the first time I've done any type of software modification for phones
Today I clicked on the "NAND Bible" post and the "CleanDROID v2.55" is looking like a better option since I don't use Facebook and all that other stuff that comes preinstalled. I'd be happy to dump all the bells and whistles for something cleaner and faster, with more disk space. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10675863
On the Wiki page for HD2 it says "Try not to flash Custom ROMs unless they say that they're definitely compatible with the 1024LEO, or You'll be sorry!"
My Questions:
1) Is this ROM safe for my phone?
2) If so, is it worth it to perform this upgrade? I'm not familiar with all the technical specs, and don't want to "fix something that ain't broke."
3) If so, for install can I just follow #3 of the Guide [For Newbs]?
Many thanks!
Note as said by a members siggy
If you don't want to void your warranty, you're visiting the wrong site.
I don't know if it is safe as I can't understand the coding to linux. but if you can, his source should be stated and you can check it to see if it is safe.
worth the upgrade isn't something we can tell you for we know not of your current status. E.g what works and what doesn't work for you.
I don't know what is step 3 of the guide. But if you know how to install, then install.
Note your questions really don't even need a thread for, these could be done by searching the forums through the search button or even manually. So next time, do a little thinking for yourself first, it helps your brain from rotting. No harsh feelings.
Hmm I've already installed a ROM so not really worried about voiding my warranty at this point.. more worried about bricking my phone..
Well if you had done even more reading, you'd know HSPL is a software prevention of bricking your device. So the only way to brick your device now is through hardware.
dren66 said:
Hmm I've already installed a ROM so not really worried about voiding my warranty at this point.. more worried about bricking my phone..
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Hey mate the best rom for you if you like sense is the core droid rom look in nand builds. if your looking for gingerbread without sense i would say ultimate droid. but please read before flashing through dft or flashing through clock work mod. and only way your bricking the phone is if you flash wrong radio or rom to it. both of the roms i stated are fine for tmous hd2's have fun modding your hd2 and welcome to xda
Thanks Rotary, will check those out.

[Q] [Newbie] Need full guide from start to install WP7

I just got my HTC HD2 today after selling my iPhone 4. I need a full guide from start to end on how to install window phone 7 precisely please as I don't want to brick my new phone !
Anyone nicely to help this newb?
(Reason why I sold my iPhone 4 is that I had iPhone, iPhone 3GS and iPhone 4. And it does get boring after awhile and I heard about the awesome HD2 running shiz loads of OS )
MrPhilo said:
I just got my HTC HD2 today after selling my iPhone 4. I need a full guide from start to end on how to install window phone 7 precisely please as I don't want to brick my new phone !
Anyone nicely to help this newb?
(Reason why I sold my iPhone 4 is that I had iPhone, iPhone 3GS and iPhone 4. And it does get boring after awhile and I heard about the awesome HD2 running shiz loads of OS )
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Dude, your asking for trouble on this one, see when you started this thread did you notice the the list of similar threads that comes up?
Its been asked time and time again and some folk on here can get very very vocal when people keep asking the same questions without looking at the quite obvious theads and stickies detailing what you need to do
Another question, have you searched at all? ok i see the search function is still down so will let you off that one, but there are various stickies at the top of the Q&A section for WP7 that will help
Im not going to detail everything you need to do, but i will give you a basic list, you can find everything you need either on the stickies on the various HD2 forums, or in the Wiki, remember most of what you need to do before you even think of installing WP7 is on the standard HD2 forums.
Anyhow, here goes, (note whilst you cant search on xda developers you can (and i always use this because its much better) seach via google, use strings like "XDA DEV LEO install HSPL")
first things first you need to unlock the device, so you will need to find and follow the directions for installing HSPL
you will then need to install the correct Radio, if you have the TMOUS 1024MB HD2 you must be very careful as flashing incorrect Radio will give you a brick, most HD2s are not this version unless you live in the states. search the HD2 WP7 stickies to find out which radio
then you will need to install the MAGLDR 1.13, use google if the XDA search is nackard, search for strings like "XDA DEV LEO MAGLDR install how to"
once thats taken care off your ready for WP7, boot to MAGLDR and get it ready for a USB flash and away you go.
Im not doing this to be rude, because i could have just as easily wrote down eveything you need to do, im doing this to help you, if you read the threads you will "learn" whats going on, you will see some of the issues other people have had and you will see how they fixed them, me telling you what to do wont teach you anything and you will be back on here starting new threads about something equally well documented.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=923997
note, its very unlikely you will brick your device, unless you have a 1024MB version and flash the wrong radio, more often that not, when people report bricked devices they simply have to go to boot loader mode and flash a new ROM, a stock ROM would put you right back to a factory default, radio and all. so dont panic about that, there is also the SD card flash if you cant do it via USB for any reason, but in all my years ive never had to do that.
oh an use a class 2 or 4 SD card, might not work but its a better chance than others.
Hey sorry about that, I tried searching as mention by you which didn't work. I thought the stickies threads was just rules, didn't know it includes links.
Also where can I find these radios on xda instead of some other website?
Also what's the difference between 512MB and 1024MB? Well of course it's double memory.
My phone is from UK, so i guess it's a European model?
I know I could search for these information but I thought this might show up on google search for other newbies. Thank you for helping me
1024=Tmous=USA
512=Rest of the world so you have a 512 (rom , not ram)
You can find all radios in the wm6.5 dev section (HD2 is a wm6.5 phone after all ^^ )
two words mate,
read up.
MrPhilo said:
Hey sorry about that, I tried searching as mention by you which didn't work. I thought the stickies threads was just rules, didn't know it includes links.
Also where can I find these radios on xda instead of some other website?
Also what's the difference between 512MB and 1024MB? Well of course it's double memory.
My phone is from UK, so i guess it's a European model?
I know I could search for these information but I thought this might show up on google search for other newbies. Thank you for helping me
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good luck!
Look, if you have questions then ask but make them specific, like the two you just gave and the radios arent on a very obvious location as ^ has mentioned, if its a UK phone you have nothing to worry about, WP7 cant use the extra 512MB of ROM anyway
remember though, google is your friend!
try search for "XDA DEV LEO radios" on google without quotes
the one you want will be the first thread or if not it will be within the top 5 XDA DEV results
same for HSPL and MAGLDR
if you get stuck youve had a look about an cant find what you are looking for then drop a question, an just say, look ive tried this this and this but im buggered if i can work it out, can you guys help
and perhaps once your done you could give complete step by step guide including all links and downloads, because your right, its not all in one place but it is all there.
One thing you MUST NOT DO is use a USA Raido to update your 512 HD2 cause you will brick your phone and it's gone till you find someone who can jtag your
phone and fix it which will cause you alot of money. Make sure you read up before
trying anything.
WP7 is quite tempting, I agree.
Though, I must admit, I'd be a little wary about installing it, as it seems like it's still quite new.
If you want to give it a shot though, I recommend picking a build out of those listed here, and reading through all the instructions and comments before deciding to install it.
Also, before you try anything, be ABSOLUTELY SURE your stuff is backed up. I can't say how many times I've lost things on my phone because I've accidentally updated a ROM without say, backing up my contacts.
I now use Google Sync to keep all my Windows Mobile and Android contacts backed up, so this doesn't happen.
I'd recommend setting up a google account, and following these instructions to backup your contacts with your google account prior to trying anything.
Anywho, bestest of luck!
CrAzYiaN said:
One thing you MUST NOT DO is use a USA Raido to update your 512 HD2 cause you will brick your phone and it's gone till you find someone who can jtag your
phone and fix it which will cause you alot of money. Make sure you read up before
trying anything.
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europe can flash 2.xx.50.xx and 2.xx.51.xx on 512mb UK version
ok, since this is the only thing that can give you a really bad day
download this radio here
http://www.multiupload.com/QP0IWGY42F
you will find everything you need about radios on this thread here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611787
The directions are on that link above but basically you will also need to get two other things
Custom RUU, found here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4798017&postcount=1
that is the flashing program its self, when you download a radio it wont have an installer, it will be just a single file, you will need it to flash any WM6.5 ROM or radio but usually the ROMs will have one included.
HSPL, found here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5279234#post5279234
this is the really important bit, this "unlocks" the device and gives you a layer of protection should you screw it up, which is most unlikely anyway download the attached file in post number 4, its the most recent and covers pretty much anything
righty once you have all that on your PC in a nice easy to find location its time to start modding it!
HSPL first, download the program and follow the instructions on the HSPL thread, which is more or less, run the program with your phone connected and charged up, IF it cant do it then it will tell you. For WP7 you MUST install HSPL2.08 when prompted.
once done, you will not notice any difference.
now follow the directions for installing the radio you downloaded use the CustomRUU, firstly extract the file then rename the extracted file to "RUU_Signed.nbh" and flash with the CustomRUU by just placing them both in the same folder (no other files in there) and running the customRUU
THAT is the hard part done, next is MAGLDR, let us know how you get on with that
MrPhilo said:
I just got my HTC HD2 today after selling my iPhone 4. I need a full guide from start to end on how to install window phone 7 precisely please as I don't want to brick my new phone !
Anyone nicely to help this newb?
(Reason why I sold my iPhone 4 is that I had iPhone, iPhone 3GS and iPhone 4. And it does get boring after awhile and I heard about the awesome HD2 running shiz loads of OS )
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Mr Philo have you got your activation code for WP7? Just dont waste your time flashing WP7 until you get a code from Microsoft.
And yes the search engine on here is not very good, but as the others said use Google.
Also when I started using XDA, i spent loads of time reading through most of the threads. And yes I read a lot before I even started to think about flashing.
But we were all Noobs, and we will help you out when you get stuck?
Also go to this thread for all info :http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=971478
Hey guys thanks for all the information! I just downloaded all the files that are needed and named them step by step in a folder.
First I can't check what SPL version I have. I did hold down the lower volume button down, but it only brings me to the 'vibrate, silent etc adjustment' (Yes i was holding it for 20 seconds). And it says do a reset, while holding down?? How can I do that. Sorry I know im failing already !
EDIT: Flower thankyou for the thread, but I was using it as well ! But its just the SPL bit im confused at :\
Oh yeah, I have already got a code yesterday from the UK Microsoft, was very easy
Start in bootloader mode. Shut down the phone / push and keep the vol down button and press the power button once...and wait 5s
Edit: Just saw its already answered above
Sakem said:
Start in bootloader mode. Shut down the phone / push and keep the vol down button and press the power button once...and wait 5s
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Thanks, my SPL is 3.03.000!! So I need to flash a ROM or something to get SPL 1.42.0000?
I currently don't have a SD card with me right now as I left it at home and will be going home next week. So is there anyway I can flash a ROM without using a sd card?
You need to flash an old rom to get an old spl, then flash HSPL 2.08.
No need for a sd for this, juste start your phone in BL mode and execute the ruu from your pc
Which ROM should I download from the HTC website? I mean theres a few ROMs for HTC HD2.
Theres ROM Upgrade for HTC HD2 - 2010-10-11
ROM Upgrade for HTC HD2 - 2010-01-25
etc?
Sorry for all the questions !
I used this ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=944995 (the Standard Version) as it already have the phone unlocked etc and have no problems with it...and had no problems activating it as well. However a lot of the other ROM's now also have your phone already unlocked etc...and most ROM's at the moment should be pretty similar as it uses the same base files.
Edit:
However...on this ROM...one of the first XAP files you should load is the Connection Setup.xap
omarza said:
I used this ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=944995 (the Standard Version) as it already have the phone unlocked etc and have no problems with it...and had no problems activating it as well. However a lot of the other ROM's now also have your phone already unlocked etc...and most ROM's at the moment should be pretty similar as it uses the same base files.
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Sorry I mean't from HTC website to get the SPL 1.4... , I don't know which one to download on the HTC website!
Have a look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=898128 and at the bottom you will see a post explaining a bit more with this link to ROM's http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=623283
Let me know if that's what you are after?
yes that totally solved all my issue! thank you very much

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