Had tried to search differences & compatibilities between the LEO & TMOUS, but not much luck on answers. I've noticed there's a LEO subthread and a T-Mobile US thread. I'm in the US and my HD2 is branded with T-Mobile logo on it. But when i sync my PC to my HD2, i get a sync folder on my PC with the "T-Mobile LEO" folder on my desktop.
So do i have a LEO or a TMOUS model? Reason i ask is so i can go to the right subthread to read what members posted to prevent any bricking or error while trying to run a cab or flash.
I have the following info from my HD2:
flash size...... 1024MB
data bus...... 32 bits
OS ver........ 5.2.21889
Manila......... 2.5.20121412.1
ROM ver...... 2.10.531.1 WWE
radio.......... 2.05.50.08_2
I used to have a HTC Tilt that i've flashed with HyperDragonIII rom. I'm kinda rusty and still a noob at this. So i'm trying to remember how to flash a rom for starter. Any advice or post would be GREATLY appreciated.
LEO is the codename of the HD2
TMOUS is the carrier
lude219 said:
LEO is the codename of the HD2
TMOUS is the carrier
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Thanks.
Then i assumed the reason why the 2 different model threads created is one for the UK and one for the US models?
toygixxer69 said:
Thanks.
Then i assumed the reason why the 2 different model threads created is one for the UK and one for the US models?
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One forum is for the europe/asia/australia model...the one you're posting right now (512mb ROM)
The other is specifically tailored for TMOUS (1024mb ROM)
lude219 said:
One forum is for the europe/asia/australia model...the one you're posting right now (512mb ROM)
The other is specifically tailored for TMOUS (1024mb ROM)
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Thanks. I guess i'll be jumping on the American flag one more often then
toygixxer69 said:
Thanks. I guess i'll be jumping on the American flag one more often then
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I find better info in this one though, and I have a tmous model. You'll want to check them both... they are basicly the same, except the T-Mous has more ROM. You just have to be careful about what radio or roms you flash. Other than that, all the same apps work the same.
oh yeah, DEFINITELY will be checking here as well....... always good to have everything of both world
you have a leo branded under t mobile usa nerworks
Your is TMOUS
HD2 (Leo) with T-mobile Branding in US has 1024MB ROM
Look for the T-mobile word below your ear piece and the five button below the screen will be colored (One will be RED to disconnect the call and GREEN to pick up the call)
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Just need advice. I have an EU version of the HD2. I'm seriously thinking of selling it and get a US version. Is the difference worth it?
enyaj said:
OFF Topic:
Just need advice. I have an EU version of the HD2. I'm seriously thinking of selling it and get a US version. Is the difference worth it?
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you will gain more rom, but you will lose 3g.
samsamuel said:
you will gain more rom, but you will lose 3g.
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...assuming that he's not on TMOUS network. But otherwise, yes.
Related
I've searched the Rom development forum and can't find the new T-mobile USA Rom. I've found plenty of cooked Roms but I would like to try the stock one first as I am in the US and use T-mobile. Is the Rom available and if so where?
Thanks for your help.
If you're in US, use HD2 with T-Mobile, didn't it come with stock ROM?
Call me crazy, but I didn't think it was out yet
What hes asking is is there a T-Mobile USA stock ROM, meaning the ROM that will be in the upcoming HD2 for T-Mobile USA.
But
I think a lot of custom ROMs have already, included the improvements from that ROM into their own ROMs.
use search function ,the stock was released 2 weaks ago in rom development forum (thanks to xmoo)
I'm actually curious about the reverse question: can any of the available ROMs be used with the new t-mobile HD2, considering that the radio hardware is different?
-AlefSin
alefsin said:
I'm actually curious about the reverse question: can any of the available ROMs be used with the new t-mobile HD2, considering that the radio hardware is different?
-AlefSin
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yes ofcourse rom doesnot depend on radio hardware only flash the proper radio
no the spl is different i just found this out so we will have to wait for a new hardspl in order to flash
To answer the OPs question, the ROM you want is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=636387
(Page 4 of the ROM dev forum )
lbhocky19 said:
no the spl is different i just found this out so we will have to wait for a new hardspl in order to flash
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or use sspl
samsamuel said:
or use sspl
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what? sorry i havent dealt with the hd2 yet just my touch pro can you explain what you mean
sspl
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293632
thanks. so do you flash that just like spl in the past and it lets you boot any rom from then on? or slightly different
SSPL (soft secondary program loader) is a temporary way to allow your phone to flash custom roms only (not radios). This doesnt give your phone the protection that HardSPL gives you.
have a read and start on post 4, theres loads of into
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=609477
and this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=606713
Unfortunately guys, SSPL and HSPL both don't yet work for the US T-Mobile HD2.... We have to wait until they release HSPL 2, which all posts I've seen, is been worked on, though there's no ETA....
tmobile htc hd2
the tmo hd2 came wIth the first two transformers movies. I thought the movies were on th sd card but there is some jerkiness on playback..why is this. Is it played over the net.. sorry but Ive been so busy today didnt figure out why it was somewhat jerky. over all like the tmo hd2. THE ROM NEEDS WORK. have yet tocheck out the tvprogram but itlooks good depending onthe number of channels etc. as you can see Im still gettingused to no physical keyboard...onscreen is huge and you can actually read full screen web pageswith no zoom and pinch to zoom is great.
As the topic states, is there an easy way to eyeball a ROM and know if it will work with the TMO USA 1024/578 HD2?
Any advice would be appreciated (I'm sure a lot of us are wondering!)
Cheers,
Bale
im fairly certain by logical deduction that any rom will work fine, as long as you read the radio requirements carefully.
i deduce this because:
Telstra HD2 is different model number to EU HD2 and roms are interchangeable
TMO US roms work fine on the EU and Telstra HD2
and im sure i saw a post where someone was running a cooked rom on their TMO US HD2
but dont take my word for it, its just logical thinking
I tend to agree, however the HSPL cookers made a rather big note about compatibility and as someone who isnt exactly fluent in all the jargon yet I find myself wondering.
Also, the TMO USA HD2 has totally different specs than the EU version and so that might cause mem allocation problems etc...
yeah i just read the warning too, so ignore my comments
its better to be safe than sorry!
Really, not all ROMs are compatible.
During testing, not all ROMs working...
This happen because 2.XX ROMs have additional stuffs (like 1024 Mbytes NAND support), while 1.XX ROMs have not.
OK so it is a case by case basis and we will just have to try and see or have the chef let us know?
I assume that if I try a non-compatible ROM, my HD2 will just hang on the loader?
Balerathon said:
OK so it is a case by case basis and we will just have to try and see or have the chef let us know?
I assume that if I try a non-compatible ROM, my HD2 will just hang on the loader?
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FYI .. I just had a good friend load a non compatible ROM on his TMO HD2 and it is as dead as a fish outta water .... Won't boot at all ....completely out of commission.
So I'm waiting until someone specifies if a ROM is compatible ...
Thanks for the report
Good to know there is an easy way to know if a ROM will work or not (instead of having bugs and errors crop up on a seemingly functional ROM.
I think I saw EnergyROM is compatible. He just has to upload the file to his host. I'm going EnergyRom w/ CookieMonster when I get my phone
Can this ROM be installed with T-Mobile US version HD2 after HSPL'd?
HTC HD2_RUU_Leo_HKCSL_WWE_1.72.831.1_Radio_CRC_Signed_15.32.50.07U_2.07.51.22_2_Ship
Cotulla said:
Really, not all ROMs are compatible.
During testing, not all ROMs working...
This happen because 2.XX ROMs have additional stuffs (like 1024 Mbytes NAND support), while 1.XX ROMs have not.
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So are you saying that we should be safe with 2.xx roms for Tmo US or should we just wait and see if we can get a working list going. I would say we should start a list thread but i know if i do i wont be dedicated to keep it up if anyone wants to take that on.
govindar77 said:
FYI .. I just had a good friend load a non compatible ROM on his TMO HD2 and it is as dead as a fish outta water .... Won't boot at all ....completely out of commission.
So I'm waiting until someone specifies if a ROM is compatible ...
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Ouch, did he return it? What is he going to do?
I'm looking to install HSPL and a custom rom on my hd2.
Can't seem to find answers to my questions because there are so many random threads posted... and I have already tried using the search option to find the answers to my questions... so I'm left with just posting another thread!
1. What is the difference between the "HTC Leo: HD2" and the "HTC HD2" besides one is from the UK and the other one is in the USA? Why do they call one the LEO?
2. When I am in the bootloader screen checking the SPL version of my HD2, how the crap do I exit the bootloader? Is the only option to pull the battery? That's kinda silly.
3. The tutorial for flashing your first rom has a title of the following: [TUT] Flashing your First GSM USA 1024LEO ONLY!! (For Noobs)
This thread is located in the Tmobile USA HTC HD2 and the title says GSM USA....referring to the Tmous HD2 and then it says 1024LEO ONLY!!! I know I have the 1024MB version of the USA HD2 but why does the title say 1024LEO then? They are two different HD2's last time I checked and there is a whole other forum for flashing the LEO's rom. Is this a typo in the title?
4. What's the difference between HSPL2 and HSPL? Which one do I use? In the original HSPL thread there are two different zip files to download.
I will remember the rest of my questions after I get these ones answered. Any help is appreciated!
1. LEO is code name of Touch HD2
2. That the only way I know of.
3. See 1
4.you only use HSPL2_1024_RUN.exe
justwonder said:
1. LEO is code name of Touch HD2
2. That the only way I know of.
3. See 1
4.you only use HSPL2_1024_RUN.exe
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If LEO is code name of Touch HD2 then how can we tell the difference between UK HD2 and USA HD2?
srt4cab3 said:
If LEO is code name of Touch HD2 then how can we tell the difference between UK HD2 and USA HD2?
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If I answer your question, will I get the thumb down again?
srt4cab3 said:
If LEO is code name of Touch HD2 then how can we tell the difference between UK HD2 and USA HD2?
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They are both Leos. The USA model has 1024mb ROM size and has green call button and red end button. The euro/uk model has 512mb ROM size and all buttons are white... no color.
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If I answer your question, will I get the thumb down again?
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haha no just be more detailed about your answers.
just seemed like you want to get your "reply" stats up
zarathustrax said:
They are both Leos. The USA model has 1024mb ROM size and has green call button and red end button. The euro/uk model has 512mb ROM size and all buttons are white... no color.
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ok thanks. but if they are the same, besides the rom size, then how come you have to be specific with which rom you put on which version?
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If I answer your question, will I get the thumb down again?
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and sorry... i am already frustrated... and when you just put quick short answers, it just didnt really help
srt4cab3 said:
ok thanks. but if they are the same, besides the rom size, then how come you have to be specific with which rom you put on which version?
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The USA HD2 with 1024rom has to use a rom that has a 2.xx base because the earlier roms made for the 512mb rom devices doesn't recognize the 1024mb rom and that causes problems. Same thing with the radios... you need the T-Mo USA radios because of the updated specs. The euro 512mbROM HD2s can use any rom or radio... it's just our newer updated USA HD2s need ROMs and Radios that recognize the updated specs. Otherwise, they are the same devices and can use the same apps, etc.
if it helps, i followed the noob guide and flashed hspl and a rom successfully. I'm about to reflash an updated version of the rom. just read the directions carefully and you probably won't go wrong. i say probably because i almost bricked my phone because i was an excited idiot, skimmed through the instructions and downloaded the wrong hspl. lol. pm me if you have any questions dude.
srt4cab3 said:
I'm looking to install HSPL and a custom rom on my hd2.
Can't seem to find answers to my questions because there are so many random threads posted... and I have already tried using the search option to find the answers to my questions... so I'm left with just posting another thread!
1. What is the difference between the "HTC Leo: HD2" and the "HTC HD2" besides one is from the UK and the other one is in the USA? Why do they call one the LEO? They are both LEO (1024LEO 1024MB RAM) & (512LEO 512MB RAM)
2. When I am in the bootloader screen checking the SPL version of my HD2, how the crap do I exit the bootloader? Is the only option to pull the battery? That's kinda silly. (Try the soft reset button also)
3. The tutorial for flashing your first rom has a title of the following: [TUT] Flashing your First GSM USA 1024LEO ONLY!! (For Noobs)
This thread is located in the Tmobile USA HTC HD2 and the title says GSM USA....referring to the Tmous HD2 and then it says 1024LEO ONLY!!! I know I have the 1024MB version of the USA HD2 but why does the title say 1024LEO then? They are two different HD2's last time I checked and there is a whole other forum for flashing the LEO's rom. Is this a typo in the title? No TYPO mskip is making sure you are on the right site, serves 2 purposes 1. Be at the right place, and if your lost then get distracted before you kill your phone.
4. What's the difference between HSPL2 and HSPL? Which one do I use? In the original HSPL thread there are two different zip files to download.
I will remember the rest of my questions after I get these ones answered. Any help is appreciated!
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Also I noticed that you asked a few questions and you stated that you have a US model so these links are for you:
These are all for Tmo US HD2 LEO1024...
Radio's see here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=669733&page=3
The thing to remember with Radio's is that you must use a .50 radio. This is what kills almost all US HD2 phones. if you look at the radio code you will see either a .51 or a .50 in the numbers. .51 = 512 RAM .50 = 1024 RAM.
HSPL stuff see here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653614
You want to click the link on the page that says *HERE*
All custom ROMs which ARE NOT BASED ON 2.08+ T-Mobile ROMs WON'T WORK ON 1024LEO. (This means that you have to HSPL your phone in order to use custom ROM's)
1. Download HardSPL package from *HERE* and extract to an empty folder
List of ROM's that are tested for the US model (Tmo US HD2 1024LEO)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653114
(Make sure that if you download a ROM and it has a radio included in it you see the above about radios.)
Hope this is clear enough.
Nibbley15 said:
.51 = 512 RAM .50 = 1024 RAM.
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..51.. = 448 RAM ..50.. = 576 RAM
dont confuse ROM and RAM
Just remember two basic rules on a TMOUS version:
don't flash anything below a 2.10 based ROM
don't flash a xx.51.xx radio
and everything else will be fine. Those are deadly to the TMOUS version. The Euro version seems so much more flexible in this regard.
flashing from the new t-mo upgrade
Nibbley15 said:
Also I noticed that you asked a few questions and you stated that you have a US model so these links are for you:
These are all for Tmo US HD2 LEO1024...
Radio's see here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=669733&page=3
The thing to remember with Radio's is that you must use a .50 radio. This is what kills almost all US HD2 phones. if you look at the radio code you will see either a .51 or a .50 in the numbers. .51 = 512 RAM .50 = 1024 RAM.
HSPL stuff see here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653614
You want to click the link on the page that says *HERE*
All custom ROMs which ARE NOT BASED ON 2.08+ T-Mobile ROMs WON'T WORK ON 1024LEO. (This means that you have to HSPL your phone in order to use custom ROM's)
1. Download HardSPL package from *HERE* and extract to an empty folder
List of ROM's that are tested for the US model (Tmo US HD2 1024LEO)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653114
(Make sure that if you download a ROM and it has a radio included in it you see the above about radios.)
Hope this is clear enough.
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Wow. Your explainations were very clear. I was wondering if you could provide just a bit more assistance. I did the new t-mo upgrade. I like everything about it EXCEPT for the touch sensitivity. It is the worst. I am going to break the screen trying to get it to respond. I read several places that if you did the upgrade then you CAN'T flash to a custom ROM. Is that true? I not, could you assist me with flashing off o the upgrade to something else? Thanks in advance.
Nibbley15 said:
Also I noticed that you asked a few questions and you stated that you have a US model so these links are for you:
These are all for Tmo US HD2 LEO1024...
Radio's see here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=669733&page=3
The thing to remember with Radio's is that you must use a .50 radio. This is what kills almost all US HD2 phones. if you look at the radio code you will see either a .51 or a .50 in the numbers. .51 = 512 RAM .50 = 1024 RAM.
HSPL stuff see here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653614
You want to click the link on the page that says *HERE*
All custom ROMs which ARE NOT BASED ON 2.08+ T-Mobile ROMs WON'T WORK ON 1024LEO. (This means that you have to HSPL your phone in order to use custom ROM's)
1. Download HardSPL package from *HERE* and extract to an empty folder
List of ROM's that are tested for the US model (Tmo US HD2 1024LEO)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653114
(Make sure that if you download a ROM and it has a radio included in it you see the above about radios.)
Hope this is clear enough.
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Yeah that's pretty clear and it helps... but a couple of questions. Where is the soft reset button that you are referring to? And also, what is the difference between HSPL and HSPL_2 on that HSPL page that you linked?
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Yeah that's pretty clear and it helps... but a couple of questions. Where is the soft reset button that you are referring to? And also, what is the difference between HSPL and HSPL_2 on that HSPL page that you linked?
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eh forget it... i think i figured it out. lol
srt4cab3 said:
eh forget it... i think i figured it out. lol
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Wow arrogance and ignorance...
Only shows you haven't read the threads in this forum because the answers to your questions have already been answered EONS ago.
Dude I am so glad you asked these questions, I was searching all the posts trying to find the EXACT answers you were looking for. It would help to include a simple explaination on how to tell the two versions apart, and a simple instruction on entering the bootloader to find the version PB81120 AND SPL version, it is even more confusing when I could not and still can not find anywhere on my phone where it says 1024mbROM,(mine says flash size 1024mb) or where it says(1024leo). I am a noob but I found the guide for noobs hard to follow so I am glad I found answers here, I am sure I will get pounded by others who tell me why I should have been able to understand it better or why I should not even try to flash a rom if I am that dumb, hey, I am just trying not to brick my phone here, I dont want to seem ungrateful, I do appreciate everybodys hard work on this site and I realize they work for donations. So I do want to give a big thanks to all the contributors for a great site, I just thought I would also let somebody know how much this posting has helped me too.
doityoureself said:
Dude I am so glad you asked these questions, I was searching all the posts trying to find the EXACT answers you were looking for. It would help to include a simple explaination on how to tell the two versions apart, and a simple instruction on entering the bootloader to find the version PB81120 AND SPL version, it is even more confusing when I could not and still can not find anywhere on my phone where it says 1024mbROM,(mine says flash size 1024mb) or where it says(1024leo). I am a noob but I found the guide for noobs hard to follow so I am glad I found answers here, I am sure I will get pounded by others who tell me why I should have been able to understand it better or why I should not even try to flash a rom if I am that dumb, hey, I am just trying not to brick my phone here, I dont want to seem ungrateful, I do appreciate everybodys hard work on this site and I realize they work for donations. So I do want to give a big thanks to all the contributors for a great site, I just thought I would also let somebody know how much this posting has helped me too.
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Flash = Flash ROM
You Will want HSPL3
1024leo, means it is Leo(the code name for this device) With 1024ROM(flash)
All this info is in this Thread
Quoting from that thread are the instructions for how to go into the bootloader
*Go into BootLoader Mode (turn off phone, then press and hold the VOLUME DOWN then Press and hold the POWER button. After about 3 seconds the tri-coloured screen should appear). Verify the screen shows the SPL or HardSPL you installed*
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Hope that helps and gets you started .....
Just read read read, not everyone takes to this stuff like a fish to water, but just like anything else, if you don't feel comfortable doing it , don't. No amount of tutoring is going to be able to fix a bricked phone. So be careful , but have fun ...
p.s. I don't work for donations ... Freebie all the way ....
Hey, im a newbie. I just got my HTC HD2 (T-Mobile) USA
Can you tell me whats the difference between Leo and the USA HD2's ? I see there is way more mods/skins/apps for Leo HD2, so any way i can switch the software?
And what are ROM's ? See there threads about roms, flashing and stuff, what does that do?
Thanks.
pr0m0 said:
Hey, im a newbie. I just got my HTC HD2 (T-Mobile) USA
Can you tell me whats the difference between Leo and the USA HD2's ? I see there is way more mods/skins/apps for Leo HD2, so any way i can switch the software?
And what are ROM's ? See there threads about roms, flashing and stuff, what does that do?
Thanks.
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Welcome newbie,
Lot's of info here, so here are some basics; read the threads and go down a few pages there you will find all your answers.
LEO=HD2
USA HD2= 1024 Memory
EU HD2= 512 Memory
these are sometimes called 1024LEO & 512LEO can you see where the names are coming together?
ROM= the software that is loaded when you turn your phone on, no ROM no phone.... Make sense?
Flashing= Removing old ROM installing new ROM
Please start here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=631
Thanks you have a nice day!
all the themesand apps and such work on both the regular hd2 and the tmous hd2. only when it comes to rom version and ESPECIALLY radio is there a difference.
feel free to try stuff in the regular hd2 themes and apps section, but only get your roms from the tmous section.
(tmous = t mobile us, with 1gb rom and coloured start and end keys)
oh and spend the next few days reading, don't dive straight in like half the pillocks arriving here every few hours, understand what you are doing and you'll see how simple it all is.
I searched and did not find anything on this which suprised me but can i do all of the same stuff on the tmo version of the hd2 as i can on the original hd2? Like same roms, radios, mods dual boot and all that good stuff? Reason i am asking is because im looking to buy an hd2 but the tmo version is 100-150$ cheaper on ebay. Also if you know any good sites to buy the phone from that would be great!
Thanks
Austin021296 said:
I searched and did not find anything on this which suprised me but can i do all of the same stuff on the tmo version of the hd2 as i can on the original hd2? Like same roms, radios, mods dual boot and all that good stuff? Reason i am asking is because im looking to buy an hd2 but the tmo version is 100-150$ cheaper on ebay. Also if you know any good sites to buy the phone from that would be great!
Thanks
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The ROM has to be TMOUS compatible, most chefs are doing this ...
As far as Radios, only x.xx.50.x radios on the TMOUS or it could brick ..
Most of the mods and such will work the same ...
The only exception I see that could cause you an issue, the TMOUS will not get AT&T 3G due to the Radio Difference ...
There is an EU model, and it escapes me now, that will ...
But the TMOUS version has 575mb of Ram and 1024 ROM where the EU version is I think like 480 and 512 ...
Hope that helps
watcher64 said:
The ROM has to be TMOUS compatible, most chefs are doing this ...
As far as Radios, only x.xx.50.x radios on the TMOUS or it could brick ..
Most of the mods and such will work the same ...
The only exception I see that could cause you an issue, the TMOUS will not get AT&T 3G due to the Radio Difference ...
There is an EU model, and it escapes me now, that will ...
But the TMOUS version has 575mb of Ram and 1024 ROM where the EU version is I think like 480 and 512 ...
Hope that helps
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So if i got one to try out dual boot with android and ubuntu it would work the same on either of them?
Austin021296 said:
So if i got one to try out dual boot with android and ubuntu it would work the same on either of them?
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Well there is no working android for hd2 yet, there are some test builds that run as an app, but no ROMs, same for Ubuntu ....
You should read some of the flashing tutorials in the ROMs thread may give you some insight ....
So where do you find themes and icons for tmobile hd2
ive been looking for themes and icons and i cant find any on this site. Where can i find some?
shenca14430 said:
ive been looking for themes and icons and i cant find any on this site. Where can i find some?
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look here, themes and apps section.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=531