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X1 Camera

I had a diamond before I got my Xperia, besides the little problems like the bluetooth turning off (fixed with good ol' mortscript) and stuff its awesome.All though the camera is realy bad, it gives a realy nice picture but the exposure time is way too long even with sport mode on. you've got to hold the thing perfectly straight for a second or two other wise its blur-city.
Is this just my X1 or are others having the same problem?
Can't say I use the camera much just would be nice to find some sort of reg key or something to make it a bit more functional.

Yes, the camera is virtually unusable as-is, because you have to keep it steady for ages.
And the problem is that if you give the phone to someone else to help you take a group picture, the long shutter time (which no one normally expects) means I have to go and explain to people to keep pressing for 2-3 seconds and not move at all.
It is stupid.

Yup, its a shame SE realy need to send out a few fixes for this phone, after all it is their flagship product at the moment, the O2 stores near me cant even get hold of them.
Bluetooth and Camera definatly need fixing

Unfortunately, since SE has decided not to use HTC to build their phones again, the Xperia X1's firmware is unlikely to be fixed ever again... sigh.

Eh, it doesn't matter if SE cooperates with HTC or not, they have their own WM department and a new firmware is already out according to this (czech) site:
Code:
http://semania.mobilmania.cz/content/view/3163/2/

One quick solution is going for infinity focus instead of auto-focus. Seems like the majority of the time is taken up by the focusing function.

the tw rom is newer in the rom thread.
as to the focus i tend to press it and leave it.

I'm trying to say that if you have focus set to auto (in the camera settings) it takes much longer to take a photo than when you have it set to infinity.

fards said:
the tw rom is newer in the rom thread.
as to the focus i tend to press it and leave it.
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Not so easy to do this if you are at a party and want to take a group photo...
Maybe infinity focus is the answer...
btw do we know what the latest firmware is?

open the phone and press the enter button once, or press the ok/center dpad once to start the process of the picture being taken.
also use multi shot this allows you to take pictures after another and then later delete ones that you do not want.
the US x1 has a newer camera cab but it doesnt help the time it takes to take a pic

i use sport mode with focus set to infinity as default settings. this gives great results and no need to hold still that much as some were suggesing.
overall the camera is great and its clearly better than the T*Omnia 5MP camera.
lets hope the new camera application from the Asian rom improve things. is it avalable CABed someware?

Sport and infinate
Although the focus isnt as good as Macro or Auto it is an improvment for the capture speed.
Setting to Sport and Infinate works a hell of a lot better than what I was using. (Sport and Auto).
Cheers guys.

shadowmike said:
open the phone and press the enter button once, or press the ok/center dpad once to start the process of the picture being taken.
also use multi shot this allows you to take pictures after another and then later delete ones that you do not want.
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I thought this for ages, its not true it really just means it has a slower shutter speed (multi-frame shot) which is why most of your pictures that involve movement will come out blurry.
Also, here is a hint for taking pictures faster: The button has 2 pressure points, hold the button down to the first point to focus, do NOT let go--then push it down all the way to take the picture it should do it instantly

For me Sports + Infinite = instant picture.

shadowmike said:
open the phone and press the enter button once, or press the ok/center dpad once to start the process of the picture being taken.
also use multi shot this allows you to take pictures after another and then later delete ones that you do not want.
the US x1 has a newer camera cab but it doesnt help the time it takes to take a pic
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thanks a lot, I didn't know the entre button and do the work

Poetique said:
For me Sports + Infinite = instant picture.
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infinite=no autofocus

When I change the standardfocus setting in the camera settings it won't save it. When I start the camera later it doesnt give me the right settings i choosed in camer settings. What am I doing wrong here? For example I wan't sport mode with macro, but I get sport mode with autofocus everytime I start the camera..

Fille84 said:
When I change the standardfocus setting in the camera settings it won't save it. When I start the camera later it doesnt give me the right settings i choosed in camer settings. What am I doing wrong here? For example I wan't sport mode with macro, but I get sport mode with autofocus everytime I start the camera..
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You have to press the down arrow on the bottom right side of the screen when in settings this will bring a more detailed settings page and you can set the default settings in there and your camera will use them everytime
Good luck

I'm a Touch Pro user but we don't have the ability to do infinite zoom. It's probably a registry value we're missing. Would anyone mind sharing any registry strings that seem to discuss focus or zooming? It would likely be in HKLM/Software/HTC/Camera
Thanks

Fille84 said:
When I change the standardfocus setting in the camera settings it won't save it. When I start the camera later it doesnt give me the right settings i choosed in camer settings. What am I doing wrong here? For example I wan't sport mode with macro, but I get sport mode with autofocus everytime I start the camera..
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Same problem here. The default focus setting is infinite, but the camera is on auto everytime.

Autofocus doesnt work on Camera

hihi
me and my girtlfriend got the HD2 since one week. I installed alle patches and BSB Tweak on the Phones. Everything is ok on my phone. But the Camera of my girlfriend does not sharpen pictures over 10 cm and longer away from the Object. I dont know, if the camera works good before. She only tried after i patched and optimized the Phone. A Hardreset dont chance the probleme. Same problem as before.
I dont know if it is a hardware failure, or any problem in the Settings.
Hardreset with 1.43 German doensnt work. Should i send it to repair the phone back to the company i get it, or do u think it is possible to repair the Focus, who sharpened the pictures via newer ROM, who maybe released the next few days or weeks?
what do u think.
thx and sry for the bad english

Ripperjack75 said:
hihi
me and my girtlfriend got the HD2 since one week. I installed alle patches and BSB Tweak on the Phones. Everything is ok on my phone. But the Camera of my girlfriend does not sharpen pictures over 10 cm and longer away from the Object. I dont know, if the camera works good before. She only tried after i patched and optimized the Phone. A Hardreset dont chance the probleme. Same problem as before.
I dont know if it is a hardware failure, or any problem in the Settings.
Hardreset with 1.43 German doensnt work. Should i send it to repair the phone back to the company i get it, or do u think it is possible to repair the Focus, who sharpened the pictures via newer ROM, who maybe released the next few days or weeks?
what do u think.
thx and sry for the bad english
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Your english is fine mate
If you hadn't tried a hard reset then I'd suggest checking that auto focus was actually enabled, as you can disable it from the camera settings (open the camera, open the options screen, press the setup icon & then go to advanced).
Since a hard reset hasn't changed it, I'd have to say it's a hardware fault. It's good that you've got another one there to compare it to so you know it should work properly. Just a shame that this one sounds faulty.
Hope you get it sorted quick. Good luck

Have you read and done what it says in the manual, page 240 in the English edition?
WB

johncmolyneux said:
Your english is fine mate
If you hadn't tried a hard reset then I'd suggest checking that auto focus was actually enabled, as you can disable it from the camera settings (open the camera, open the options screen, press the setup icon & then go to advanced).
Since a hard reset hasn't changed it, I'd have to say it's a hardware fault. It's good that you've got another one there to compare it to so you know it should work properly. Just a shame that this one sounds faulty.
Hope you get it sorted quick. Good luck
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the one and only option ist "Touch Focus" i see on advanced options.
Do u mean, a rom updated doenstn work, when 1.61 is official or a higher rom?
on my phone, i hear a voice on the lensse when it sharpened the picture, on my girlfriends phone there is no voice on the lense, only the white quad moves, but there is no noise from the lense.
mayebe it is possible to destroy the Focus, when i update the camera patch and do optimices with BSB Tweaks?

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Have you read and done what it says in the manual, page 240 in the English edition?
WB
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i have only the german one. But i try to read it, when i am at home. the htc page is not available here at work ;(
can u copy and paste it maybe in this thread?
thx

Ripperjack,
See this...
" ... • Press and hold the Virtual Camera button to set the focus and
take a photo.
• Press and hold the Virtual Camera button to set the focus and
start capturing a video. Press the button again to stop capturing.
To take a photo using Touch Focus
Touch Focus allows you to focus on a particular area of the screen by
touching it. Touch Focus is enabled by default and is available in the
Photo and Contacts Picture capture modes.
1. Set the capture mode to Photo or Contacts Picture mode.
2. Tap the area on the screen where you want to focus. The focus
indicator positions itself on the selected area.
Note If you tap outside the effective focus area, a white box appears to
indicate the area where you can use Touch Focus.
3. Press and hold the Virtual Camera button to set the focus and
take a photo. You can also directly press and hold the area you
selected (that is, the area enclosed within the focus indicator) to
focus on that area and take a photo.
To capture photos in Panorama mode
Press and hold the Virtual Camera button to set the focus and capture
the first photo. Press and hold the button again to focus and capture
each subsequent photo and complete the panorama....."
WB
Full manual available here...http://www.htc.com/uk/userguide.aspx?p_id=297
PS: I just checked on my device. If yo go into the camera app>settings>advanced, make sure Touch Focus on the first page is set to ON.

ok, thx. Try this all. But have no effect. Onlyo the Quad moves, but not sharpening the Picture.
A new ROM maybe cannot repair this?

Hi Ripperjack,
If I were you I would move to the official ROM 1.48. Then BEFORE loading any fixes or software on (1.48 has most of them in it anyway) I would test the camera and see if it works according to the handbook.
If it does not then you might want to consider sending the device back as faulty and getting a replacement.
Cheers
WB

have the original 1.48 ROM from HTC on my HD2. It was on my phone already, when i get it. Girlfriends phone also have 1.48. I wanna try to flash the 1.61 Custom on my phone, but when i do this, i loose my warranty?

otherwise, is there any Registry entry to activate/deactivate the Focus on Camera?

push maybe someone know it?

Remap Lock/Power Button as a Camera Button when Camera is on?

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Good idea.......

would be a very nice mod.

+1 on this, much needed maybe there could be a setting to say what the lock buton does, either locks the screen, or takes picture...

renegadedj said:
+1 on this, much needed maybe there could be a setting to say what the lock buton does, either locks the screen, or takes picture...
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i was thinking the same thing since the first time i picked up the phone i thought the lock button would be on top and that the actual lock button was the camera button haha. but yeah i think itd be awesome to disable it when the camera is in use...and if we could disable the stupid low battery warning when the cam is in use too....we've got a notification led fix in the works already, a recovery image is being worked on, some devs are planning on porting CM6 to this phone, GPS and compass i believe are fixed for those who had problems with them, nightmode works a treat, so all we need are those 2 mods and i think the vibrant will be perfect...well for me anyway but im sure many would agree lol.

Even the lock/power button would be perfect.

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Even the lock/power button would be perfect.
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i added another idea to the first post. check it out.

uber bump! any devs considering this idea?

would this get more attention if i posted this in the development section as a think tank?

would really appreciate something like this. bump

boodies said:
would really appreciate something like this. bump
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i wonder if the cm6 port would incorporate it...idk why samsung didnt include a camera button, then again im surprised how they squeezed so many features and tons of horsepower into this light little thing in the first place haha

+1 this would be a great add-on

I agree. This would be excellent!

can someone with twitter send this to wesgarner? i would but i dont have a twitter and i dont think he checks these forums very often.

This should definitely be possible, since in the video player, the lock/power doesn't lock the screen - it just disables the touch screen - so that touching the screen doesn't do anything like causing the control buttons to appear. This proves that the button itself is programmable based on the app.

Infos3c said:
This should definitely be possible, since in the video player, the lock/power doesn't lock the screen - it just disables the touch screen - so that touching the screen doesn't do anything like causing the control buttons to appear. This proves that the button itself is programmable based on the app.
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wow thats neat i never noticed that! i'm sure its possible we just need somebody with the know-how to implement it. also, i think i mentioned this before, but since on the g1 devs were able to add a reboot option (which btw would be cool if we did that here too) i was thinking there should be a camera option in the menu to launch the camera app. and if we could remove the stupid camera/video disabler when low battery comes on, thatd be awesome too. i'm sure once a custom rom comes along these things could be implemented but we gotta grab a devs attention first.

Infos3c said:
This should definitely be possible, since in the video player, the lock/power doesn't lock the screen - it just disables the touch screen - so that touching the screen doesn't do anything like causing the control buttons to appear. This proves that the button itself is programmable based on the app.
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The camera app does this too.

I'm hoping that someone has picked up on this and that it is in the works, I hope that it's doable.

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[Q] Red shutter button isn't reliable

Does anyone else have this problem? My red shutter button is not always reliable. Normally I can long press it to open the camera app. But it only works about 30 to 50% of the time. When it fails to work, I manually open the camera app from the apps menu, and the shutter button will simply autofocus and then beep twice when I half-press it. Trying to take the photo by fully pressing it does nothing. The on screen shutter button works perfectly every time. The button is not physically defective, since it does respond with an autofocus attempt and two beeps, so I think it's software related.
My phone is 2.2 OTA and rooted. To ensure there is no other conflict with another app that uses the camera, I used Titanium Backup to freeze all those apps I installed (Evernote, Google Goggles, etc.) and unfroze all the original Verizon bloatware. Still, after rebooting the phone, the little red shutter button only works less than half the time. Any ideas?

I had this problem myself. I started using the on screen shutter button (and found that it actually takes better photos). I got sick of trying to use the dang thing, so I used Tasker to map it to toggling my auto brightness and 20% brightness. Best thing I ever did...

I didn't think of using Tasker to remap that button. Very cool. A search shows that other folks have problems with the lens shutter but not with the shutter button so I wondered if it was just me. Hopefully it's a bug they are aware of and will fix it in the next update. I'd still like to use that button for the camera.
Sent via XDA App on my Droid X

BBJohnnyT said:
I didn't think of using Tasker to remap that button. Very cool. A search shows that other folks have problems with the lens shutter but not with the shutter button so I wondered if it was just me. Hopefully it's a bug they are aware of and will fix it in the next update. I'd still like to use that button for the camera.
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Hey, can someone include step by step instructions for how to accomplish this with tasker?
Thanks

Open Tasker
Click New
Enter Profile Name and click OK
Click Event
Click Hardware
Click Button: Camera
Check Stop Event
Click Done
Select a premade task or create one
Click Done
Click Apply

Thanks for the instructions, I'm still new to tasker and wanted to try this.

What is the full name of the app you used to change the function of the camera button?
-Droid X- 2.2 (rooted)

ckdg888 said:
What is the full name of the app you used to change the function of the camera button?
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That would be Tasker

I have also noticed this problem after 2.2 dropped.
Almost 100% of the time if I woke up my phone, unlocked it, and pressed and held the camera button, it'd vibe really quick as if it was going to open the camrea aplication, but if I give it a second, and try again, it works like a charm.
But it seems you've already worked out a solution!
Hope this helps someone out there pleagued with yet another 2.2 bug!

Blurry Photos

I've been using the camera a lot lately and have always had a problem with the picture quality, mainly indoor pics. I would hold the phone steady, press the shutter button down halfway, wait for it to focus, then take a picture, but it would still end up a little blurry. Anyone getting problems like this? If not, what settings are you using?
Also, my biggest gripe is the fact that camera settings can't be saved. I would set it up so a friend could take a picture of me, but they somehow always press that search button, which then erases all my camera settings when they go back to the camera app. Did anyone find a hack or some sort of method to keep the settings permanent?
The main reason I have to bring all this up was biggest after taking blurry pictures last night, my friend's just bust out their iphones and with one simple click, they took an almost instantaneous photo with no settings to mess with and no blur at all.

I would also like to add that one of my friends was trying to take photos with his lg quantum as well, and he has the same problem. Is this a problem with windows phone 7 in general?

you could check out shcamera. It's a sideloaded app that was developed for the hd2 crowd, so it doesn't use the camera button, it's all screen rouc, and it doesn't have all the various settings/adjustments, but it saves settings and works pretty good. Tap screen to focus, press onscreen shutter button to take picture.
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Turn on antishake in settings used to hav the same problem fixed via antishake thing bt the worse part is u hav to change it everytime u r abt to click pictures bcoz u cant save camera settings ...

DKDogz54 said:
I've been using the camera a lot lately and have always had a problem with the picture quality, mainly indoor pics. I would hold the phone steady, press the shutter button down halfway, wait for it to focus, then take a picture, but it would still end up a little blurry. Anyone getting problems like this? If not, what settings are you using?
Also, my biggest gripe is the fact that camera settings can't be saved. I would set it up so a friend could take a picture of me, but they somehow always press that search button, which then erases all my camera settings when they go back to the camera app. Did anyone find a hack or some sort of method to keep the settings permanent?
The main reason I have to bring all this up was biggest after taking blurry pictures last night, my friend's just bust out their iphones and with one simple click, they took an almost instantaneous photo with no settings to mess with and no blur at all.
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Same here. I owned an HD7 that didn't have this blurry issue. It seems the Focus camera is super sensitive to movement.

Thanks, at least I know i'm not the only one with this problem. I try to turn on anti shake everytime i use the app, which actually helps a lot. The problem is when I give the phone to someone so they can take the picture. They somehow accidently press the search button and I have to play with the settings again. Kind of a bummer, but I'll try to get used to it.

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Thanks, at least I know i'm not the only one with this problem. I try to turn on anti shake everytime i use the app, which actually helps a lot. The problem is when I give the phone to someone so they can take the picture. They somehow accidently press the search button and I have to play with the settings again. Kind of a bummer, but I'll try to get used to it.
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You might consider having them take more than one picture. I've noticed that when I take another picture after the blurry one, the results tend to be more normal. Maybe have them take a preliminary picture and then a real one. This seems preferable to messing with settings all the time.

Nice. The new NoDo update made the anti-shake option on by default. That will help a lot!

DKDogz54 said:
Nice. The new NoDo update made the anti-shake option on by default. That will help a lot!
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the nodo update didnt default the anti shake on by default on my focus .

The official nodo update for att focus includes a Samsung update that defaults the antishake on, helps lessen accidental capacitive button presses, includes an att hotspot sniffer/whisper that auto logins, and has a provision for transferring att phonebook contacts onto the phone
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Focus
Anti-shake is on by default for me after the official ATT NoDo update.

JamesAllen said:
Anti-shake is on by default for me after the official ATT NoDo update.
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Me, too. Still have blurry pics, though.

in low light indoors you might want to try the setting photo quality on medium instead of the default hi setting.