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Android 2.0 "Eclair" is here!

Developers, start your engines
http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.0-highlights.html
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2009/10/announcing-android-20-support-in-sdk.html
Countdown to a new ROM...

~David said:
Developers, start your engines
http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.0-highlights.html
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2009/10/announcing-android-20-support-in-sdk.html
Countdown to a new ROM...
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I am suprised none of the devs have crapped their panties yet since it just got released a few mins ago.

This could be good...for the vogue...
"Android 2.0 is designed to run on devices that use virtual keys for HOME, MENU, BACK, and SEARCH, rather than physical keys."

tallnerd1985 said:
I am suprised none of the devs have crapped their panties yet since it just got released a few mins ago.
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lol, your assuming we haven't already been looking at it yet Besides this is just the sdk tools I believe.

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mssmison said:
lol, your assuming we haven't already been looking at it yet Besides this is just the sdk tools I believe.
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Do want though. Do want.

Well I have it booted on vogue. Not much added just a new lock screen like you see in the sholes video some different icons, new square dialer buttons,

Like 1.6 there will probably be terrible app availability.

I wouldn't mind testing out a plane-jane 2.0 ROM if anyone is up for uploading it
I've learned to live without apps ever since the Market stopped working.

zenulator said:
Well I have it booted on vogue. Not much added just a new lock screen like you see in the sholes video some different icons, new square dialer buttons,
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Is it compatibly with our custom ril for data/voice/SMS?

Macmee said:
Like 1.6 there will probably be terrible app availability.
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yeah because the SDK was just released today it will take a little while for developers to update their apps and create new ones. But the 2.0 market isn't even out yet either so there is NO app availability at this time lol. But once hte Droid is released I bet there will be a spike because so many more people will be using Android once it's on Verizon so more developers as well

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yeah because the SDK was just released today it will take a little while for developers to update their apps and create new ones. But the 2.0 market isn't even out yet either so there is NO app availability at this time lol. But once hte Droid is released I bet there will be a spike because so many more people will be using Android once it's on Verizon so more developers as well
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I was talking to a guy in Europe with a G1, and he said he runs 1.6 and has loads of apps, ebuddy, opera and everything. Yet my 1.6 market in Canada doesn't have any apps.

Macmee said:
I was talking to a guy in Europe with a G1, and he said he runs 1.6 and has loads of apps, ebuddy, opera and everything. Yet my 1.6 market in Canada doesn't have any apps.
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It's an issue with our devices and other unlock phones from what I can tell. If i log in with a new "virgin" gmail account, then the donut market has tons of apps. if i setup with my standard gmail account that has been using 1.5 as well, i get almost no apps. the only work around is a new gmail account.

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It's an issue with our devices and other unlock phones from what I can tell. If i log in with a new "virgin" gmail account, then the donut market has tons of apps. if i setup with my standard gmail account that has been using 1.5 as well, i get almost no apps. the only work around is a new gmail account.
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I officially love you. I cleared the cache for google apps and registered a new GMail. Lots of apps are showing up. Thank you

Macmee said:
I officially love you. I cleared the cache for google apps and registered a new GMail. Lots of apps are showing up. Thank you
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Glad it worked for ya. It was a real head-scratcher for a bunch of us when Donut first dropped. I just wish they'd fix it already

zenulator said:
Well I have it booted on vogue. Not much added just a new lock screen like you see in the sholes video some different icons, new square dialer buttons,
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I themed the dialer for donut to have square buttons but still cant get it just quite right.

Google I/O - Android Highlights

I'm not sure if everyone has seen this, but here is the video from Google's I/O Developer event:
Google I/O Day 2 - Android
It shows a bunch of things coming up in Froyo -
- browser based on chrome engine (3x - 5x faster)
- browser integration with camera, microphone, etc. (think web apps)
- ability to move apps to sd or leave on device
- update all in market place
- error reporting per app
- streaming music from pc to phone
- push apps from web right to phone
- a ton of jabs at apple and the ipad
- lots of new features in froyo, and further out.
It's 45min, so grab some popcorn. If you're an Android fanatic like me though you will enjoy every moment.
-AndyS-

i love Google lol
Google is God and Android my Savior lol

Watching this as I speak. This is awesome.

I saw on Twitter that everyone who went walked out with an Evo

at 35 min that streaming music is going to be awesome...
like pandora that doesn't suck

I saw on Twitter that everyone who went walked out with an Evo
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I know, I can't wait for that phone to come out, it's such an awesome phone.
-AndyS-

That was a great video. I wonder what happened to the rest of it.

Thanks for the video.....it was very good...
I'm not sure if everyone has seen this, but here is the video from Google's I/O Developer event:
Google I/O Day 2 - Android
It shows a bunch of things coming up in Froyo -
- browser based on chrome engine (3x - 5x faster)
- browser integration with camera, microphone, etc. (think web apps)
- ability to move apps to sd or leave on device
- update all in market place
- error reporting per app
- streaming music from pc to phone
- push apps from web right to phone
- a ton of jabs at apple and the ipad
- lots of new features in froyo, and further out.
It's 45min, so grab some popcorn. If you're an Android fanatic like me though you will enjoy every moment.
-AndyS-
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@otisfeelgood
if you follow the video to the site google has posted all video from both days. I'm put right now, but if I get a chance when I'm back in front of a computer I'll post a link to the channel with all the videos.
-AndyS-

2.2 looks amazing any chance hero gets it.

matthewman3 said:
2.2 looks amazing any chance hero gets it.
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We've already got it.

abcdfv said:
We've already got it.
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Yeah we got it but most devs are leaving for the EVO. So the question remains on if we will ever get a fully working port or not?

Your welcome
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http://code.google.com/events/io/2010/androidadventures/see-you-in-2011.html

REGISTERED!
shhhh:
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markus_del_marko said:
Yeah we got it but most devs are leaving for the EVO. So the question remains on if we will ever get a fully working port or not?
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I think many will still use and dev the phone

True about Flash and Froyo

So I was browsing the Internet to see how cool is to have Flash on Android device, I was sure Adobe improved flash due to many many criticizes about it but I was wrong.
I know(actually I think) that Google did his part, and improved speed and usability in Android, but Adobe still needs a LOT of optimization!
In this video you will see following because of installed Adobe Flash:
-Slow page loading(even though Google improved speed in Froyo!)
-choppy performance
-instability
-huge CPU and RAM usage
Android 2.2 (Froyo) Web Browser Test with Flash enabled
In my opinion don't install Adobe Flash Player
Don't get me wrong guys I love Android 2.2 and Google openness, but ADOBE needs to work...A LOT!

What do you expect? It's a beta release.

Rusty! said:
What do you expect? It's a beta release.
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Than they shouldn't release it, it is useless!
Apple was right...I can't believe that is true!

This really bugs me, its FAR from useless. I have used it to play music from the myspace music players, games on kongregate, a liveleak video, and on the burger king website. It works great, if you keep it on demand and not on all the time, it won't even slow down your browsing. If you really think that this is useless, and shouldn't be released, then you are an idiot. It may not work 100% yet, but this is a huge step forward for the Android platform, and I for one am thankful that I have it on my Nexus. If you don't want it, you can uninstall it, it's that easy. Stop being whiny idiots and complaining about how it slows this down or uses too much CPU.

You can go into your settings and set the Flash plugin to "On demand" which essentially switches it off until you browse to a site with Flash content when you will see a play button. Press that button and the Flash will load.
Perhaps that should be the default option, but nonetheless, simple to change and is definitely the way forwards in my view.

i don't browse flash based website all the time, so it doesn't bother me at all. at least i know the mobile browser is fully functional for all websites.

Its Beta for a reason "Testing purposes"

benko286 said:
Than they shouldn't release it, it is useless!
Apple was right...I can't believe that is true!
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Calm down. It's not even hardware accelerated yet. I for one am glad I've got any flash support this far.
If you only wanted something that's 100% failsafe go grab a parchment and quill

I hope the op isn't trolling. Adobe released the beta version for adventurous people to try it. If you don't think it is ready, then fine, just unistall it. No need to jump into conclusion when the final version isn't even out yet. The argument 'then they shouldn't release it (the beta version)' is rather weak because we are talking about a beta version here, which is expected to have flaws here or there...

flash works fine for me...and it definitely doesn't leave my browser sluggish...seems to be faster than the 2.1 browser even with Flash enabled...so I dunno.
Also, the Froyo browser is a fully capable HTML5 browser as well...so no, Apple wasn't right, Google was right...options > no options. I could understand if Google was anti-HTML5 but they are not, in fact as witnessed in the Day 1 Keynote of Google I/O they are one of HTML5's biggest supporters.
They just refuse to abandon the PRESENT to feed the future.

at least we have the option to use Flash.
You can change the plugin settings in the browser to load on demand so it will only load the flash content if u click on it.

Seriously, some people need to learn what "BETA" means. u_u

it's funny.
I was reading this and went to cnn and I was watching that oil spill vid.
And then someone called me. The vid stops and I talk on the phone to a
co worker and then hang up after about ten minutes. After pressing the end call button the video starts back up in the browser.
I thought that was pretty cool.
It's better than I thought it would be, and I'm pretty happy to have it.

NexusDro said:
I hope the op isn't trolling. Adobe released the beta version for adventurous people to try it. If you don't think it is ready, then fine, just unistall it. No need to jump into conclusion when the final version isn't even out yet. The argument 'then they shouldn't release it (the beta version)' is rather weak because we are talking about a beta version here, which is expected to have flaws here or there...
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Exactly - It's a standalone app that can be uninstalled if you so choose to. I may feel differently if it was integrated. Not sure what Google's plans are when the final is released though.

Don't get me wrong guys I love Android 2.2 and Google openness, but ADOBE needs to work...A LOT!

benko286 said:
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You need to understand what the term "beta" means before you word vomit all over the internet.

uberingram said:
you need to understand what the term "beta" means before you word vomit all over the internet.
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uberingram said:
You need to understand what the term "beta" means before you word vomit all over the internet.
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They should call it Alpha..in my opinion it is far from beta-.-

benko286 said:
They should call it Alpha..in my opinion it is far from beta-.-
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Other than huge flash sites its awesome for me. I think its easily almost done.

Yeah initially flash slowed down my browser but once I switched it to ON DEMAND only everything is perfect. The thing I like about android is that I have the CHOICE to use flash if I want. I don't have to let apple choose for me. And when html5 matures and is mainstream I will have to choice to use both.
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Nexus one does NOT support Google Maps 5 100%

http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/06/google-maps-for-mobile-5-unveiled-adds-dynamic-map-drawing-and/

Gotta love the glitches that we paid for!!

Blame HTC. But they make phones made if steel and uranium and not plastic so it all evens out.

That's stupid! I thought Google would have been more "picky" in regards to the hardware the "Development" phones would have...guess not!
Well, I don't really care about the full multitouch, as long as i can somehow get maps 5 on my phone later on. Maybe add a onscreen gesture control (like a d-pad)

Oh they can finally make use of the N1 trackpad for the rotation control.

NexusDro said:
Oh they can finally make use of the N1 trackpad for the rotation control.
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This is google and adnroid apps we're talking about.
Expect to see it's usefulness in Icee.

NexusDro said:
Oh they can finally make use of the N1 trackpad for the rotation control.
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Trackball is a plus, I agree

I noticed Desire HD/Z not on the list. Do these phones also seriously have the MT issue?

ignore me...

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I noticed Desire HD/Z not on the list. Do these phones also seriously have the MT issue?
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The G2 is on the list, so by extension I don't see why the Desire Z wouldn't support it 100% as well. They're basically the same platform after all.

If its just multi touch that the N1 is not 100% compatible with, thats fine, I can live with that. 99% compatible

I don't understand this new version of Google maps.
Andy Rubin was saying that you can now use Google maps navigation while offline?

ap3604 said:
I don't understand this new version of Google maps.
Andy Rubin was saying that you can now use Google maps navigation while offline?
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It saves data on your most recent routes and often travelled routes I believe. This seems like it's a worthy update but I would appreciate it if I could just stick all of north america on my SD card like nokia's ovi maps. This is definitely better than no caching, provided the maps don't take up a whole lot of internal memory.

OJ in Compton said:
It saves data on your most recent routes and often travelled routes I believe. This seems like it's a worthy update but I would appreciate it if I could just stick all of north america on my SD card like nokia's ovi maps. This is definitely better than no caching, provided the maps don't take up a whole lot of internal memory.
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Wow
Pretty effin' amazing there Google...
Thanks for the reply OJ

For me, the problem is the n1 gpu.... the only thing this phone misses...
I mean there's a lot f 3d in there.... Idk if n1 can handle it

It'll work for the N1. Trust me.
By hook or by crook.
XDA ftw!

Theres an app for the iphone where you can choose an area and download it to the phone.
Thats what we need.
So the only data you need to download "on the road" for navigation is the route and traffic information.
Of course it also needs some sort of update feature for the offline data, in case something changed.

zipredictive said:
For me, the problem is the n1 gpu.... the only thing this phone misses...
I mean there's a lot f 3d in there.... Idk if n1 can handle it
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N1 has GPU which is plenty fast. In fact, microsoft currently bets it's whole WP7 platform on it.
And Gingerbread Platform Highlights say, that:
Updated video drivers — The platform uses updated third-party video drivers that improve the efficiency of OpenGL ES operations, for faster overall 3D graphics performance.
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draugaz said:
N1 has GPU which is plenty fast. In fact, microsoft currently bets it's whole WP7 platform on it.
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That seems stupid not to at least go with the one in the Hummingbird CPU instead of Snapdragon. . . it's 4 times faster.

OJ in Compton said:
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They don't as they're vector-based maps. The new Google Maps update looks really great.

[Q] CM7 versus CM9: which one to run?

I've tried both, but I still feel like I don't quite have the big picture of what their respective strengths and weaknesses are on the Epic. They both have a little development ways to go of course, but assuming that's not an issue -- what are your opinions?

Depends on what you use your epic for and if you want the bleeding edge...
In Soviet Epic forum, clockworkmod root you!

You might as well ask Froyo or Gingerbread? Same thing. One is Gingerbread based and the other is Ice Cream Sandwich based.
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I'm not so much looking for a personal recommendation as for a summary of features and differences, which I haven't really found elsewhere.

2.3 - http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.3-highlights.html
4.0 - http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-4.0-highlights.html
First thing that popped up after a Google search.

Thanks. Much of the stuff in that 4.0 link is available in CM7 though, either out of the box or with apps, like swipe to dismiss notifications, lock screen actions, resizable homescreen widgets, visual voicemail, taking screenshots ...
Just thought it might be interesting to have a discussion from the POV of in-the-trenches Epic Cyanogen users.

The main reason I switched from CM7 to CM9 is access to ICS apps such as Chrome Beta and a few others.

Gavisann said:
The main reason I switched from CM7 to CM9 is access to ICS apps such as Chrome Beta and a few others.
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agreed,
There are a handful of apps you can only use with ICS, as of right now, we cannot use google wallet on CM7, but hopefully with the Beta upgrade of CM9 we will be able to utilize google wallet. Among others like Chrome Beta... There are also cool upgrades like the panoramic camera.
Also if you invest enough time configuring it, the face unlock is a neat little feature.

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Just thought it might be interesting to have a discussion from the POV of in-the-trenches Epic Cyanogen users.
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Hard to get a handle on that because most of the CM9 feature set (as in additions to stock AOSP) haven't yet been finalized upstream and released. As such, right this moment, CM7 does much much more as far as tweaks go....thus the links to the stock info.

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agreed,
There are a handful of apps you can only use with ICS, as of right now, we cannot use google wallet on CM7, but hopefully with the Beta upgrade of CM9 we will be able to utilize google wallet. Among others like Chrome Beta... There are also cool upgrades like the panoramic camera.
Also if you invest enough time configuring it, the face unlock is a neat little feature.
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I think it's going to be mighty difficult to use Google Wallet without an NFC chip.

Gavisann said:
The main reason I switched from CM7 to CM9 is access to ICS apps such as Chrome Beta and a few others.
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This is what's convincing me. However I'm unsure whether my battery life will be good enough to last a full day without having to charge it. Another thing is just the fact that there are a few glitches. I think I may try it again, but I'm not the guy that likes to spend 30 min getting everything set up after I flash cm9. I tried alpha0 in the past so I have an idea of what its like.
P.S. can you configure the buttons in the pulldown menu in cm9? For example, like add airplane mode and then move it in front of the wifi toggle?
Thanks
Sent from my Samsung Epic using CM7!

can you configure the buttons in the pulldown menu in cm9? For example, like add airplane mode and then move it in front of the wifi toggle?
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You can. CM9 has fewer Settings options than CM7, but that one's still there.

cm9 = native 4g tether.....the end.

Quicksand Jesus said:
cm9 = native 4g tether.....the end.
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I dont get 4G anyway. Besides theres an app that allows you to do it.
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