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PC doesn't recognize Touch HD (Blackstone)

Hi all,
Just picked up a second hand Touch HD on Orange, I want to Hard SPL it and flash with a custom rom but my Win 7 laptop will not see the phone when connected via Windows Mobile Device Centre, either as active sync or disc drive...everything works fine with my Xperia though.
Any idea's the reason behind this. I had no disc with the phone so do I need specific drivers for it even though my Xperia worked with the native Win 7 drivers...I've googled my problem but have not found a solution...please help

Are you using the correct USB cable? The one supplied by HTC is slightly different from the standard cable.
If I use a normal USB cable, the one from my camera or Blackberry for instance, it will charge from the laptop, but that's all. To sync and charge properly needs the HTC cable with the slightly different mini-USB end.
Cheers
Dazza

have you tried a hard reset? sounds like whoever had the phone b4 you was playing with the notification queue

Cheer guys, but have hard reset and am using the cable that came with the phone but still no joy on both my home machine (Win 7) or my works one (XP).
Don't know what to do next

Dazza2910 said:
Are you using the correct USB cable? The one supplied by HTC is slightly different from the standard cable.
If I use a normal USB cable, the one from my camera or Blackberry for instance, it will charge from the laptop, but that's all. To sync and charge properly needs the HTC cable with the slightly different mini-USB end.
Cheers
Dazza
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Sorry Dazza but that information is incorrect.....
I've got about 1/2 a doz usb cables that I have used for 6 months....ANY usb cable will work.
My HD has only just stopped being recognized in the last 2 days. I loaded W7 on my laptop 2 weeks ago and it recognized up until a few days ago. I suspect it's from some update that I've done.
Sammy

Try uninstalling activesync and reinstalling it again on the XP computer. That's worked for me in the past. If that works, you'll at least know it's not the phone or usb cable.
Not sure about W7 yet but I'll post something if I figure it out
Sammy
EDIT - This is where I'm currently searching
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/en-us/help/synchronize/device-center-troubleshooting.mspx

I uninstalled windows mobile sync centre on my W7 computer and reinstalled it.
Works fine now.

samlives said:
I uninstalled windows mobile sync centre on my W7 computer and reinstalled it.
Works fine now.
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Just reinstalled...still no joy

Have just ordered a genuine HTC HD data cable to see if it is the actual problem. It seems strange it won't sync on either XP or Win 7 yet does charge when plugged in.
The cable does show signs of slight damage as I can see some of the sliver wire exposed at the mini usb side. Am hoping it's this or I've got a knackered port on my phone

Have you disabled all firewalls and tried connecting?

samlives said:
Have you disabled all firewalls and tried connecting?
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Yep, have disabled everything but still no joy
Are there any HTC drivers that I need to install or should it just recognize the phone when I plug it in???

Start > System > ActiveSync > Menu > Connections
In this menu, check "synchronize all PCs using this connection" if unchecked.

And what got me going today (had forgotten this one)
On the Touch HD
Start - Settings - Connections - USB to PC
Check Activesync and uncheck "enable faster data synchronisation"
Spent a couple of hours trying to connect before I did this.
Hope this works for you.
r
Andrew

Thanks for your help guys but still no joy...am waiting on a genuine HTC usb cable to see if that's the problem as the one I have am hoping is faulty, otherwise it's my phone

kersey said:
Thanks for your help guys but still no joy...am waiting on a genuine HTC usb cable to see if that's the problem as the one I have am hoping is faulty, otherwise it's my phone
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If you can see wires on your cable, that's a good sign at least. If the cable is damaged, that's much cheaper than fixing your phone.
Do you know anyone with another cable you can test with while you wait? Any mini usb will suffice. There's nothing special about the HTC one (except maybe a steeper price)
Good luck

samlives said:
If you can see wires on your cable, that's a good sign at least. If the cable is damaged, that's much cheaper than fixing your phone.
Do you know anyone with another cable you can test with while you wait? Any mini usb will suffice. There's nothing special about the HTC one (except maybe a steeper price)
Good luck
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I've got a genuine cable being delivered either tomorrow or wednesday, it only cost me £5 so no problem there...the only thing that now worries me is you saying there's nothing special about the HTC one...I've tried 4 different cables and all they do is to charge the phone from the pc but not sync it, this is both at home on Win 7 and in work on XP...a damaged phone springs to mind now

I had the same problem. Try going into bootloader (switch off phone, press on-switch and volume 'down' at the same time) and then connecting your usb. After a few seconds it should change from 'serial' to 'usb'. Mine wouldn't even do that so I logged a call with HTC. It was a hardware fault. They replaced the motherboard and I had the phone back in 7 days.

ericjennings said:
I had the same problem. Try going into bootloader (switch off phone, press on-switch and volume 'down' at the same time) and then connecting your usb. After a few seconds it should change from 'serial' to 'usb'. Mine wouldn't even do that so I logged a call with HTC. It was a hardware fault. They replaced the motherboard and I had the phone back in 7 days.
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Have tried as you said...all it states is serial, no sign of usb
Am fearing the worst in that phone may be damaged and as it was bought second hand I have no receipt or idea of how old it is and whether returning it to HTC for fixing is possible.
My last hope is when my genuine HTC cable arrives tomorrow, even though I know deep down it won't work from what you guys have said, I'm deeply hoping that as the mini usb connection is slightly different on the phone to other mini usb ports that it might work, otherwise...that'll teach me for buying second hand

I had the same problem where my pc wouldn't recognize my HD, i tired the HTC usb cable and about 4 different mini usb cables and 4 computer. Done a hard reset, tried reinstalling active sync...basically anything and everything. In the end i took it back to CPW who sent it back to HTC and they replaced the motherboard.

sst said:
I had the same problem where my pc wouldn't recognize my HD, i tired the HTC usb cable and about 4 different mini usb cables and 4 computer. Done a hard reset, tried reinstalling active sync...basically anything and everything. In the end i took it back to CPW who sent it back to HTC and they replaced the motherboard.
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Thanks guys for all your help and advice...I don't think there's anymore I can do other than get use to the phone the way it is or try and sell it on ebay obviously declaring the sync issue...to 'Joe Average' it may not be as big an issue than it is to me.

USB on PC not working.. tried everything in threads..

So I can't get my desktop OR laptop running XP Pro 32 to even recognize the phone. As in no audio plays and nothing appears in the system tray. Tried with/without debugging mode, installed the samsung drivers etc. The phone doesn't even show up in device manager at all- not even as something unrecognizable. Its as if the port is dead. The phone does 'ding' though and charge ok so it is receiving power... though nothing at all appears in the android notification tab when connected. Any ideas or anyone know of any apps on the pc or android side to take a closer look at whats happening on the bus?

The only way that I can get it to work is to put it in media mode. It shows up as a media device in Win7. If I put it on, "ask every time" or whatever it doesn't work and in mass storage mode it shows up as two unreadable drives, they are grayed out in Explorer... Basically...don't use the "ask every time" for USB function.
This function seems like such a simple thing, not sure why Samsung has so many issues with it considering they have been making media devices for a long time.
Anyway... do you have access to a newer OS to at least rule that out as a cause. Not saying it shouldn't work with XP 32 but just something to check out.

I was having similar issues at first. I take it adb doesn't work either? Well my fix was to delete my whole Android SDK folder, then I redownloaded it (though I just kept the "tools" folder this time). Then I downloaded "USBDeview" (google it) to delete every USB driver that had to do with android (basically just left the printers, HID, and my Sansa drivers), restarted, then I downloaded the samsung drivers from the thread on here, plugged my phone in and manually pointed the driver search to the drivers.
ADB and Mass Storage has been working fine since. All I can tell you is to keep checking cause there's something you're missing, I also thought to myself "what the heck else can I do?" since I had done each one of those steps previously, but maybe I just had to do them all together. Good luck.

another possible solution is to change cables if you're not using the samsung provided cable - some cables are charger only (no data) - some of the motorola cables are charger only and we've already had one poster that had that issue

I couldn't get it to work at first either. I more or less did this.
I plugged in my phone. I did not enable mass storage mode on my phone. Walked away and let my PC think for a while. I came back and I noticed I had two new drives. I then enabled mass storage mode and could connect.
Two of my machines I had to do this. I'm not sure why it wasn't instant, but it just took a bit of patience and walking away from the machine to let it think for a while before I guess it installed the drivers and made its peace with the fact it wasn't the G1 any more.

Say into voice dialer "Open SD card" -> check "Enable USB mass storage". That works if port on PC is OK.

If it's a driver issue, open device manager and uninstall the usb ports. Unplug everything from usb and when you reboot the computer it will automatically reinstall the usb ports.
Sent from my Vibrant

I ran into the same issue. It was a problem with the USB cable I was using. As soon as I tried a different cable it worked fine.

larryccf said:
another possible solution is to change cables if you're not using the samsung provided cable - some cables are charger only (no data) - some of the motorola cables are charger only and we've already had one poster that had that issue
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I second this, I forgot my sammy cable at work on Friday and on way home stopped at T-Mo and picked up a charger w/cable and realized right away this was just a charging cable as soon as I connected it to my PC. I'm returning the cable back to T-Mo tonight. At least I was able to charge my phone over the weekend.

UPDATE: You guys are right, it is the goddamn cables! I bought an extra wall charger + cable at the t-mobile store and was using that at home. I had left the original in-box cable at work. Tried the cable at work today and now the drives pop up. Still don't appear writeable but I can look into that when I have time, probably the typical driver issue. As far as I can tell those separate cables are power only! $15 for a two wires + dc adapter. Thanks Samsung. Grr.

i suspect the mfgrs have gone to charge only cables to help keep folks from tethering - just a suspicion
if the "drives" are popping up, have you "mounted" the phone (pull down notification bar, clik on USB connected and it should give you a window asking to mount the cards or drive)

FYI....The Rocketfish cables you get from Best Buy do not work. They are only capable of charging.
@larryccf...I don't think certain manufacturers are implementing this on purpose so we can't tether. I think their just being cheap.

Where I got my cables on the cheap! and my problem.
I got my cable at monoprice.com. Check it out that is a 10 foot usb cable for $1.69 and it works for me. They have different lengths and even some colors. Now my Mass Storage issue . . .
My Mass Storage via USB works fine unless I enable "USB Debugging" which one of my apps needs to work. Once debugging is enabled I loss the ability to see my sd card and internal storage on my XP netbook. any ideas????

Same Problem
I have the exact issue, tried many things have'nt found a fix yet. Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!
Thanks,
crx

larryccf said:
if the "drives" are popping up, have you "mounted" the phone (pull down notification bar, clik on USB connected and it should give you a window asking to mount the cards or drive)
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this worked for me Thanks

Yes phone is mounted, and can be seen w/o usb debugging enabled. However with usb/debugging on it does not read the phone being connected. Meaning that I cannot connect to ADB which is my main concern.
thanks for response tho,
crx

crxforya said:
Yes phone is mounted, and can be seen w/o usb debugging enabled. However with usb/debugging on it does not read the phone being connected. Meaning that I cannot connect to ADB which is my main concern.
thanks for response tho,
crx
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This is my issue exactly, and I haven't found a fix either. Called T-Mobile and they thought turning off debugging was the only fix I needed.

Most of them, sorry to say are half retarded. They think a data reset is the cure-all

crxforya said:
Most of them, sorry to say are half retarded. They think a data reset is the cure-all
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Ain't that the truth!

If you are running windows (x86 or x64), it would be wise to install the samsung drivers. I was having this exact problem, but as soon as I installed the drivers from samsung, viola!
I had the latest drivers from google, and they did not work for me.
Here is a link to the thread containing the links to the drivers, thanks to TGA_Gunnman:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=728929

USB issue

All of a sudden my pc is not recognizing phone as a usb drive.. It was working perfectly since day one with this phone but since yesterday it wont recognize it.. And even if it does, it takes a very long time. ive treid uninstalling the drivers and reinstalling, as well as turning debugging on and off. My pc is running windows 7 64bit.. I have also tried different roms and nothing.. When connected in debugging mode, it recognizes it immediately and installs drivers by i still cannot view my storage card.. Any help would be appreciatied.. Thanks

Install pdanet on your computer. When it gets to the part about driver installation, select samsung and voila.
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App

Try another USB cable.

rufflez2010 said:
Install pdanet on your computer. When it gets to the part about driver installation, select samsung and voila.
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Oops forgot to mention i did that as well.. still not working.. Maybe ill have to buy another usb cable..

jok3sta said:
Oops forgot to mention i did that as well.. still not working.. Maybe ill have to buy another usb cable..
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:-\ sucks... hey, got to use the emoticons!!!! Ayways, yeah, sounds like the cable is dead. The one from my lg dare doesn= work for data tranfer, so I turned it into my car charger.
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Firon said:
Try another USB cable.
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Seconded. I bought a cheap charging kit and the cable would charge but would not allow file transfer. Took it back, bought another cable and it's fine.
Either the phone is finicky about cables, or it might just require a particular type (probably USB 2.0).

I had this issue also last week. I tried another cable and it worked fine.
But now I am having issues with my usb ports in general. Now they just stop working every once in a while and I am required to restart my laptop.
Don't know if the two problems are related.

Try different USB ports. Like the ones on the back on your computer.

I've been having the same issue. I went out to Radio Shack and bought a new data cable. So far all ports on my laptop, winXP pro 32bit, and my win7 64bit desktop have not had problems.
I'm thinking that the USB cable supplied by Samsung is crap. I tested them both out on the same machine, same port; the new one worked fine, while the stock cable only gave me adb access.

I had this same exact problem. I kept thinking the phone was going bad or something. I tried the cable that came with my Epic & the one that came with my Moment, both didn't work... for some reason it worked find on a Mac though. So when I gave my mom my Moment when I got the Epic she bought an extra micro-USB cable and I decided to try that one, for some odd reason, that one worked.
Still don't know exactly what was going on but a third-party cable fixed the problem for me.
Hope this helps.

[Q] Epic not mounting

I cannot get my epic to mount for ANYTHING! I factory wiped the phone, nope, I used a palm pre usb cable nope, I downloaded the official samsung drivers nope, I plugged the cable into the motherboard on the computer nope, I tried a different computer running windows 7, nope tried a laptop using windows vista, nope. Does anyone know ANY WAY POSSIBLE to get this thing to mount? I selected mass storage and dissabled and enabled usb debugging. Im just not having any luck. It seems that the computer recognizes the phone is connected just cant get to the files on the SD card.

I also spent many hours trying to figure out what the hell was wrong with my Epic, that is, why it would come up as a "malfunction" in Windows when I plugged the USB cable in.
I tried drivers, different restore points, wiping, etc. etc. etc.
To the point... Try a new USB cable. The one packaged with the Epic is junk. As a matter of fact, it worked several times before it crapped out. I have no idea why, but I picked up a new micro USB cable, plugged it in, and the phone was then immediately recognized by my computer to allow mass storage mount.
People who tried the Palm Pre USB cable also had issues for some reason.
IMO, there should be a sticky posted in this board regarding the packaged USB cable, as I encounter this issue quite a bit.

Ok I'll try to find a new one really quick thanks

ugh tried an HTC Mytouch 4g usb cable and that didnt work either. Gonna try a class 4 usb stick and im gonna try puttting all of the files on the computer from the SD card
Edit: Oh wow i cant put the files on the computer duh
Edit: Ok now I'm mad a Class 4 SD card wont connect to the computer thru the epic ughhhh

I'm guessing during this time, you've rebooted the computer a few times? Sometimes, that's all it takes...
Try uninstalling ALL of the USB drivers associated with the Epic, rebooting the computer, then connecting (with debug mode OFF). Windows found and installed the USB drivers for me in just a few seconds when I did this [with the new cable, the first time].
- G

Have u enabled development mode under settings > applications (in your) epic? If not, try that, then plug in cable.
Then pull down the notification bar and it'll give you back the option.. again, if you haven't tried this.

On occasion I have troubles with the Epic mounting/ejecting on a Mac, but the only time I've ever had an issue with it mounting on a PC a different cable solved the problem immediately.

Try a different USB port on your PC. If that doesn't work, try rebooting the PC and the phone.
I had luck with trying different usb ports though

I had this problem as well and:
1. Tried 4 different cables
2. Tried all 4 on all 4 different USB ports
3. Rebooted numerous times
4. Uninstalled/reinstalled drivers
5. Tried 3 different PCs (1 other running 7 and another running Vista)
6. Did 1-4 on all three computers.
OH! and the reason I was so adamant about finding a solution was that I was stuck in Clockwork... due to having messed up an EXT4/RFS/CW2.5/CW3.0 installation... It was MY fault... I screwed up.
The problem was I had been living with the nonmounting problem by simply putting my MicroSD into an adapter and plugging it into my Laptop for file transfers... never expecting to HAVE to ODIN at some time...
Anyway... I ended up coughing up the $100 to Insurance and replacing the phone.
HERE IS MY THEORY: I think what my problem was was that the USB port on the Phone was messed up. I think these USB ports are possibly a hardware fail point and the changing of cables has been a patch on the issue with the port... NOT the cables themselves!
I'm not suggesting that you are there yet since it sounds like you can at least still get the phone to boot up (and aren't stuck in CW) and could still use a work around of putting files on the MicroSD with an adapter...
But I would suggest you don't be as stupid as me and get yourself in a position where ODIN is your only hope.

Yeah, it sounded like a bad USB port to me. Also, FYIY, if you ever have to replace the phone through insurance, tell them that the phone was lost. Either way, it will cost you $100.00 to get a replacement and when it's reported as lost, they will also send you a new battery...

OregonLAN said:
Yeah, it sounded like a bad USB port to me. Also, FYIY, if you ever have to replace the phone through insurance, tell them that the phone was lost. Either way, it will cost you $100.00 to get a replacement and when it's reported as lost, they will also send you a new battery...
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You don't really think that I sent in a phone that was stuck in CW do you? I don't think that would have worked too well for me.....
Cheers!

Did you end up doing an ODIN restore

[Q] My phone won't connect on USB to computer, but my wifes Epic will

I have a Samsung Epic 4g rooted with the one click 2.5 and I upgraded to Froyo.
I had to use my wifes phone to copy the update.zip to my sd card because my computer would not let me see my epic. Same computer, cable and model phone works fine for my wifes.
I need to reinstall the one click root and can not get my computer to see my phone.
Is there a way I can root on the phone without using the computer.
So close to done, but I can not use the wifi tether without re-root

Different phones can be more finicky. No valid explanation why though.
Make sure you plug the cable into the phone first, then the computer. Try using different USB ports. If all else fails, try another cable.
I have seen a bad port on the phone before, but it had charging issues as well.

Superbovine said:
Different phones can be more finicky. No valid explanation why though.
Make sure you plug the cable into the phone first, then the computer. Try using different USB ports. If all else fails, try another cable.
I have seen a bad port on the phone before, but it had charging issues as well.
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I have tried all the ports on my laptop. The phone acts like it is connecting. Even brings up the new usb connection icon but can not see the phone or sd card on my phone. USb debugging tried on and off.
No problem charging. I have tried various usb cables also and different computers

That is pretty wierd.
Do you have a different computer to check?

I'm having the same issue, but it isn't constant. I spent hours last night reinstalling drivers, different cables, debugging on-off. I go back to stock and try and it works fine, I install clockwork3 and ext4 with TrulyEpic and it does the same thing. Though sometimes it works. I found that my port is a little loose, cause when I move it to one side it looses connection. I think we may need to contact Sprint and get a replacement phone. I really want a brand new one, cause I didn't pay for a refurb, and really dont want one.

Superbovine said:
That is pretty wierd.
Do you have a different computer to check?
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yes 4 computers 2 with Windows 7 and 2 with Xp

Djarett088 said:
yes 4 computers 2 with Windows 7 and 2 with Xp
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Sounds like something is up with the phone, man. The only commonality is the phone.
Especially if you couldn't access it before the flash to 2.2 either.

duh. It's already been scientifically* proven that phones perform better for women because they are often carried (snuggled) in the women's bra. See here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10512579#post10512579

I find my USB very finnicky on my phone connecting to my windows 7 computer,I've gotten used to just using File Expert to wirelessly manage my SD card.