Hi all,
Before I post my question for help I would like to say I sincerely appreciate any help I can get
I've read the forums but can't find the answer to my problem so I hope you guys can help me out.
A few hours ago I installed dutty's task manager but it worked a bit too well. After a reboot Sense did not start.
I still have the Start Menu, the Phone and Contacts buttons and when I go to \Windows and click "Manilla", Sense is back when I close Explorer.
However, when I reboot my device, Sense is again not started and I have to move to \Windows etc again to get it running.
What I've tried:
- Soft reboot, several times
- Hard reboot (removing battery)
- copying the 'Manilla' file to \Windows\Startup
but that all doesn't seem to work. There's also a 'Manilla'-shortcut but when i click it, it does nothing.
How can I get Sense to run from the get go when I restart my device again?
Have you uninstalled dutty's task manager?
Yes I did, that did not help the situation however. I still only get a nice background without Sense and Sense still only starts when I click the 'Manilla' file. Not when I reboot my HD2.
Settings->Personal->Today->Items->tick HTC Sense?
You Sir, are awesome!
That did the trick Never thought it would've been something as simple as that
I will contruct a shrine for you, dear sir! May your days be blessed and all that yabbadabbabullsh*t
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Hello all,
I'm kinda frustrated with my HD2 device at the moment. It worked perfectly fine until a few days ago.
It has begun to freeze _very_ often. With some ROMS it can't even boot up. It freezes when I have to enter my PIN. On other ROMS it is guranteed to freeze when using ActiveSync/Exchange.
Using HSQL, I've tried L3v5y, XannyTechRom, and MIRI. All with the same result.
Have you got any ideas whats wrong with my device?
Any help will be much appreciated.
I have no idea about whats wrong but this has been a common issue/problem for many members...I don't think I saw this many issues with the HD...I dunno whats wrong with HD2 or the ROMs that it starts freezing for some...maybe the HSPL is buggy? I dunno to be honest.
maybe you should install a stock rom in between or go to MTTY and see if that fixes the issues for you.
Overall tho, its frightening to see how many people have freezing issues with Sense after flashing a couple of custom ROMs...I'm afraid it might eventually happen to everyone and thats why we need to find out what is causing this.
BTW try to format your SD card and then flash a stock ROM without the SD card and see if there is any improvement...my guess is that it will work fine again (for a while at least).
What I have figured out is that with different roms the behaviour is different, depending IN WHICH ORDER you have the links in the autostart folder.
Right after flashing it should be ok and if you install than other programms the startup interfears with the startup of htc-sense
Finaly I have the best result (on my device with the programms I have installed) keeping the htc-Sense startup as the LAST item.
You can change the order with sk-tools (Autotstart items).
You can check this (If you have a chance to access):
- Make a reset and do not enter the pin code of your sim card (on my device this was making a difference, if you do not have a pin code maybe you should take out your sim card that the phone cannot connect)
- Go to the settings and unselect in "Today" "HTC Sense"
Than you should have the normal "speed" of the device and you should be able to start sk tools and change the booting order.
It looks like that - depending on the start up order that applications - processes are waiting for each other and using nearly 100% of cpu power and you have therefore the impression that the device is frozen.
I am sorry I do not know how to change the startup order without sk-Tools
Best regards,
dingolino
tommyjakobsen said:
Hello all,
I'm kinda frustrated with my HD2 device at the moment. It worked perfectly fine until a few days ago.
It has begun to freeze _very_ often. With some ROMS it can't even boot up. It freezes when I have to enter my PIN. On other ROMS it is guranteed to freeze when using ActiveSync/Exchange.
Using HSQL, I've tried L3v5y, XannyTechRom, and MIRI. All with the same result.
Have you got any ideas whats wrong with my device?
Any help will be much appreciated.
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tommyjakobsen said:
Hello all,
I'm kinda frustrated with my HD2 device at the moment. It worked perfectly fine until a few days ago.
It has begun to freeze _very_ often. With some ROMS it can't even boot up. It freezes when I have to enter my PIN. On other ROMS it is guranteed to freeze when using ActiveSync/Exchange.
Using HSQL, I've tried L3v5y, XannyTechRom, and MIRI. All with the same result.
Have you got any ideas whats wrong with my device?
Any help will be much appreciated.
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try the strenas rom (arthemis V2). It has solved my pb
[email protected] said:
I have no idea about whats wrong but this has been a common issue/problem for many members...I don't think I saw this many issues with the HD...I dunno whats wrong with HD2 or the ROMs that it starts freezing for some...maybe the HSPL is buggy? I dunno to be honest.
maybe you should install a stock rom in between or go to MTTY and see if that fixes the issues for you.
Overall tho, its frightening to see how many people have freezing issues with Sense after flashing a couple of custom ROMs...I'm afraid it might eventually happen to everyone and thats why we need to find out what is causing this.
BTW try to format your SD card and then flash a stock ROM without the SD card and see if there is any improvement...my guess is that it will work fine again (for a while at least).
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Thanks for your reply.
I will try what you suggest later today and then write back the results here. It would be very nice if we could solve this issue.
I don't really get that MTTY thing. What exactly does it do?
willbread said:
try the strenas rom (arthemis V2). It has solved my pb
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Can you only use that ROM? Have you tried flashing another one after strenas?
I would really like to use l3v5y's ROM.
dingolino said:
What I have figured out is that with different roms the behaviour is different, depending IN WHICH ORDER you have the links in the autostart folder.
Right after flashing it should be ok and if you install than other programms the startup interfears with the startup of htc-sense
Finaly I have the best result (on my device with the programms I have installed) keeping the htc-Sense startup as the LAST item.
You can change the order with sk-tools (Autotstart items).
You can check this (If you have a chance to access):
- Make a reset and do not enter the pin code of your sim card (on my device this was making a difference, if you do not have a pin code maybe you should take out your sim card that the phone cannot connect)
- Go to the settings and unselect in "Today" "HTC Sense"
Than you should have the normal "speed" of the device and you should be able to start sk tools and change the booting order.
It looks like that - depending on the start up order that applications - processes are waiting for each other and using nearly 100% of cpu power and you have therefore the impression that the device is frozen.
I am sorry I do not know how to change the startup order without sk-Tools
Best regards,
dingolino
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Very interesting dingolino!
Later today I will give that a shot aswell on l3v5y's ROM. Will report back.
tommyjakobsen said:
Thanks for your reply.
I will try what you suggest later today and then write back the results here. It would be very nice if we could solve this issue.
I don't really get that MTTY thing. What exactly does it do?
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When you flash lots of cooked roms, they get "bloated" and the devices started hard-resetting for no reason. this is because of files from old roms being left when the new rom is flashed.
MTTY allows you to enter the device on bootloader and use service commands to format the file system on the device so you can remove all rom files before flashing a new rom!!
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basicly it will format your system and make sure you don't have any files from older roms left on the system which might cause this issues.
tommyjakobsen said:
Can you only use that ROM? Have you tried flashing another one after strenas?
I would really like to use l3v5y's ROM.
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i tried too l3v5y's ROM and it didn't work. But maybe, your pb is not exactly same as mine.
Do you you a 16 GB card ? for me, it's certainly cause of pb because i can use every rom without sd card
Try to ask more to sternas but i noticed he prefer keep his cook secrets
Try to install "official" 1.61, make HR after boot. After next reboot connect with PC and flash with any cooked ROM. I had the same problems like you and this helped me...
Petulinek said:
Try to install "official" 1.61, make HR after boot. After next reboot connect with PC and flash with any cooked ROM. I had the same problems like you and this helped me...
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and for me, this didn't help me
willbread said:
i tried too l3v5y's ROM and it didn't work. But maybe, your pb is not exactly same as mine.
Do you you a 16 GB card ? for me, it's certainly cause of pb because i can use every rom without sd card
Try to ask more to sternas but i noticed he prefer keep his cook secrets
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Try deleting the folder "\Application Folder" on the storage card using your PC/Laptop, and reinsert the SD card into HD2. I assume you are using ROM cooked with Manila version that has the document tab.
Let us know if this works for you. It took me a long time and many flashes to figure this out. I suppose you have configured your HD2 for emails or MS Exchange pushmail?
Edit : If you already experience the slowdown caused by inserting the SD Card, MAKE SURE you reboot your HD2 before re-inserting the SD card.
I had this "freezing during startup" with a number of roms (always after I installed my software) and since that I am always "tweaking" it by the startup order as I described it and was able to solve it!
I do not think that it is hardware related in the amount of cases which are reported. And I am also not a strong believer of this "flashing" and mtty discussion (it could be a solution is some cases but I do not think in this relatively larger number of cases which are reported).
For most of the rom cookers it is not the 1st rom cooking they are doing and the HD2 is not the 1st HD2 device for HTC as well. This is the reason why I do not think that there is a principle rom problem nor a principle hardware problem
Manila Sense is a complex pcs of software and the startup is therefore more complex.
Depending on the tweaks the rom cookers are doing on the XIP and other WM internals there could be a timing interfearance during booting and this is creating the trouble for Manila Sense startup (network, phone, etc.).
Reminds me to the "good old days" with ATART-ST where you had dedicated tools to rearrange the startup seaquenze of the Accessories
At least i think it is worth trying it, you cannot loose anything.
But I played not only with the finaly boot order of htc-Sense (the last one) but also I put other elements in a different order.
Sometimes it was helping to install Panolauncher and put it before HTC Sense startup - I had the impression that just having another application before HTCsense made an improvement to "give HTCSense" more time.
Does not sound like science but a little bit like Voodoo ...
My Autostart folder (only the applications)
1. poutlook.lnk
2. BTTrayCE.lnk
3. De|WMPTempFolder.lnk
4. PKG.lnk
5. Lotus Traveler.lnk (installed by me)
6. LotusPRUploader.lnk (installed by me)
7. Panolauncher.lnk (installed by me)
8. OM10QS.lnk (installed by me - Opera 10 beta)
9. HTCStartUp.lnk
Good luck
dingolino
tommyjakobsen said:
Very interesting dingolino!
Later today I will give that a shot aswell on l3v5y's ROM. Will report back.
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gohyc said:
Try deleting the folder "\Application Folder" on the storage card using your PC/Laptop, and reinsert the SD card into HD2. I assume you are using ROM cooked with Manila version that has the document tab.
Let us know if this works for you. It took me a long time and many flashes to figure this out.
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i haven't the folder "\Application Folder" on my card. Maybe, this is why this rom works well
I haven't verifyed before so i can't tell you if i had it before
Hi,
could you try to flash ROM that have manila 1921 (manila without document tab),
I facing so many problem when I install ROM with manila 1922 (manila got document tab)
Now has been 4 day, without any problem flash ROM with manila 1921...
give a try...
mtty may help u out
dingolino said:
What I have figured out is that with different roms the behaviour is different, depending IN WHICH ORDER you have the links in the autostart folder.
Right after flashing it should be ok and if you install than other programms the startup interfears with the startup of htc-sense
Finaly I have the best result (on my device with the programms I have installed) keeping the htc-Sense startup as the LAST item.
You can change the order with sk-tools (Autotstart items).
You can check this (If you have a chance to access):
dingolino
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so i just got the last version of sktools.....could anybody please explain how I can change the startup order? sktools has allot of tools and I just cant figure out how its done!
thanx!
Hi,
sounds to me like you have flashed so many times you HD2 has become "Bloated"
this is where for eg, Rom X is 110Mb, and then you Flash Rom Y which is only 100Mb.
When you do the flash there is 10Mb of residual files left from the previous rom., when this happens often you get strange things happening like you describe and worse, your device can start hard resetting for no reason!!
Go to this thread (swap the ** for tt ) h**p://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=616422 (I cant post links yet!!) and it will fix your issue. (The thread has been shut as there has been a big argument over it, something to do with a disagreement over drivers!! - how gay!)
I can honestly say, although i have only joined recently, i have been a user of this method for about 6 years, I personally know the Guy who opened the thread and i would stand buy him 100%.
Although the thread is closed, i will help with queries via PM if you like!
SS
gohyc said:
Try deleting the folder "\Application Folder" on the storage card using your PC/Laptop, and reinsert the SD card into HD2. I assume you are using ROM cooked with Manila version that has the document tab.
Let us know if this works for you. It took me a long time and many flashes to figure this out. I suppose you have configured your HD2 for emails or MS Exchange pushmail?
Edit : If you already experience the slowdown caused by inserting the SD Card, MAKE SURE you reboot your HD2 before re-inserting the SD card.
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I tried deleting the \Application Folder folder and reset the phone.
Of course this equaled a hard reset as all system data stored was in \Application Folder.
So I removed my storage card and did a hard reset so that the system data will not be stored in the storage card.
Hopefully this will be make the device more stable as such.
use the mtty to format ur device first, then flash the rom u want to flash.
I have encountered the same issues just like u, after use the MTTY, so far so good.
the post is kind of complex, but it is worth to have a try.
Hi everybody,
I bought 5 devices of HTC HD2 for my company.
Each device freeze after running several programs.
I've tried the following steps:
1. Performed hard reset
2. Upgrade the ROM version to 1.66 but nothing helped.
3. Remove the HTC sense.
Nothing of the above steps helped.
Please help me ,i'm desperate...
[email protected] said:
Hi everybody,
I bought 5 devices of HTC HD2 for my company.
Each device freeze after running several programs.
I've tried the following steps:
1. Performed hard reset
2. Upgrade the ROM version to 1.66 but nothing helped.
3. Remove the HTC sense.
Nothing of the above steps helped.
Please help me ,i'm desperate...
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This sound crazy and my suggestion is to return them from the place you buy them this can be some hardware problem.... witch mean Serious Problem
If you explain more i can try help you to find witch couse the problem with the freeze this is not normal for device with such a powerfull processor.
Anyway witch is your company? to come work for you when you are buying Leos...
everyone now will start to ask about the cool company that gives HD2 and forget about the problem
john (if thats your real name), post the same question in the leo forum and make sure to mention the installed software. also make sure you update to a newer ROM
Hope this helps
Hi John,
I have had the same problem and am currently using
Rom Version 2.10.531.1
OS version 5.2.21889
What I did to solve to this problem was
Step1: Clean everything off the device in Settings > Application > Remove Programs
(Can choose to do whatever I just chose to delete everything and start from scratch it was that or a factory reset (Settings > Security > Factory Reset)
Step2: Turn off the Location Services in Settings > location (I unchecked everything AGPS and HTC location)
Step3: Downloaded and installed Cleanram
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=514333
So far it has been peaceful (3 days and counting) hope this helps or can be condensed to find the problem until an update arrives.
tsalta said:
This sound crazy and my suggestion is to return them from the place you buy them this can be some hardware problem.... witch mean Serious Problem
If you explain more i can try help you to find witch couse the problem with the freeze this is not normal for device with such a powerfull processor.
Anyway witch is your company? to come work for you when you are buying Leos...
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Hi,
We are a small SW company. We just wanted to test these devices before star working on them. This happened when we run some programs from the program list of the device.
Thanks in advance.
i would also follow the recommendations Jalopy is making.
also make sure that you dont have too many text messages on your device otherwise HTC Messaging will slow the whole device down!
Jhon
[email protected] said:
Hi,
We are a small SW company. We just wanted to test these devices before star working on them. This happened when we run some programs from the program list of the device.
Thanks in advance.
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How many is "some" programs?
What programs are you using? I would like to reproduce the bug.
Sounds to me considering the amount of people having the same problem in different areas doing different steps, that this is memory related and not hardware.
Are you closing your applications after you use them?
Even when you exit some default programs (wrong or right) they are still displayed in the task manager (taking up precious memory ). Make sure you are closing your apps by checking in Task Manager and ending the task correctly and cleaning your ram or alternatively you can download Duttys Task Manager that allows you to close the app by pressing x rather than minimizing it.
Duttys task manager
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638
This problem is already posted on this site elsewhere (a duplicate post) under Leo, as The Grizz pointed out.
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=607949
Hope this helps
Freeze after rom flash.
Hello i thought i may use this thread since the topic is the same. I recently got my hd2,so i thought i could experiment on it changing the rom that could optimize the hardware usage, since the original rom was not good. Anyway i installed Hspl_2 and added this rom:Miri_rom_hd2_WM65X from htcpedia
I followed the guide on this site so everything went fine. the device booted nicely with the new rom, but when i reboted the device it freezes on the htc logo. I performed hard reset and it works fine, but each time i reboot the device freezes at the htc logo and i am forced to hard reset it each time.
I wonder if its something wrong with the rom? and what about the radio?
Hi guys,
My phone suffers from the same, we are also looking into it here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=607949
Hi All,
The windows startup buttom is not working on my device. Therefore, I cannot access any of my programs.
* I can see the labeled programs from the HTC sense but they cannot be activated.
* Whenever I reboot my HD2 it is giving me this error : Open of EnglishUS failed.
and it takes a very long time to boot up.
*Htc Sense is working (but very slowly).
I used a program called: Clear Temp I am suspicious that the problem started after this.
Thanks for your help,
Stan
Hard Reset
do you have swype on your phone?
sw5273652 said:
Hi All,
The windows startup buttom is not working on my device. Therefore, I cannot access any of my programs.
* I can see the labeled programs from the HTC sense but they cannot be activated.
* Whenever I reboot my HD2 it is giving me this error : Open of EnglishUS failed.
and it takes a very long time to boot up.
*Htc Sense is working (but very slowly).
I used a program called: Clear Temp I am suspicious that the problem started after this.
Thanks for your help,
Stan
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Put HSPL, Radio and flesh it to another ROM..(suggest ya ENERGY!)
Or do the hard reset if u dont want to ROM fleshing thing..
Yes. I do have Swype on my phone (it came with it). Could this be the culprit?
I am hoping to avoid hard reset if possible.
Thanks for your thoughts
Yes. I do have Swype on my phone (it came with it). Could this be the culprit?
I am hoping to avoid hard reset if possible.
Thanks for your thoughts
swype will be something to do with the failed language problem google it thats what i did
I "switched gears" and installed the latest Energy Rom. Happy thus far.
Thanks for your input
Hey guys i need a favour to help me on how to put my Home Screen back... I installed a .cab theme and after i restarted it, it has a message saying "Tap the screen to relaunch the HTC Sense" or something like that. Then it goes back on launching the HTC sense and it keeps going back to the message and so on.... I tried to remove the program and it still not working... Please I need you help... Thanx heaps and much appreciated!
pItchAn ooiooiooioo
Shot in the dark, but try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6508642&postcount=133
no.....
what you can do is use a file explorer...
best one i can think of is resco explorer
and go to \windows\ delete all the files that are
similar to ie: 2342342_manila (the numbers will all be different)
also find and delete the manilafull.xml file
then reset your device. when it comes back on your sense should start.
note: that any special mods like cookies home tab.. facebook tab special lock screens
etc will all be gone. this will in essense revert your sense back to default.
it will however, be working..
pfft... (post above gps fix) pffft.
-cope
same happened here.. to avoid all the poo of changing settings and delting files, just hard reset ur mobile.. without the sense launched u can still go to start menu setting etc etc.. its the quickest way but u'll loose all ur apps
cioa
First of all, before doing a hard reset or deleting every single manila file on your device, just try deleting \Windows\ManilaFull (.xml) as restart the device.
johncmolyneux said:
First of all, before doing a hard reset or deleting every single manila file on your device, just try deleting \Windows\ManilaFull (.xml) as restart the device.
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YES.. try this first. I should have said that in my post.... but ^^ this is correct ^^
also i should mention... regarding deleting your manila files; you wont be able to delete them all because alot of them are stored in the ROM. The ones you CAN delete are replaced with their un-modified version from the ROM automatically. So technically your restoring your original manila files from rom as opposed to deleting your manila files; it doesnt need to sound like a scary procedure. Far less scary then sense not working at all.
I have just installed milana cookies home screen, and unstatisfied with it, i decided to uninstall just after i installed it. obviosly this required a soft restart, after it HTC Sense will not load, i cannot access my the home screen as the message 'htc sense is loading is always there, after s while, it says 'htc sense failed to launch, tap here to retry, if i do nothing happens, i can open the Windows menu, that's it
any ideas?
once again, thanks in advance
Have a read * HERE *
I have had similar problem once before and the solution was to re-install everything. XDA_UC though came quite handy in that regard as it installed everything by itself and you don't have to do much.
Thanks to both of you, this is very annoying as I now have to re-install everything. After a while of searching, it turns out the easiest way to solve this issue is by hard reseting the phone.
dude, sometimes all files of cht are not uninstalled properly...simple way is to try reinstalling the cht ...it will remove cht completely........i hope i am not late
pakure said:
dude, sometimes all files of cht are not uninstalled properly...simple way is to try reinstalling the cht ...it will remove cht completely........i hope i am not late
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Thank you for that, I had tried though. When I tried to uninstall, HTC Sense did not load, so I had to re-install and then do a factory reset. It turned out fine, as all of my files are on the Micro SD anyway
Cheers anyway!