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Ry Guy
Google Employee
07:03 PM
Hey guys,
Just dropping in to let you know that the FRF72 build that is floating around is not the official update. The Android team is feverishly working to get a final version out the door, but like passion-ate has mentioned this will only happen once a release candidate meets our quality criteria.
Since today is the Summer Solstice, we know things will be heating up a bit so hopefully Froyo will be on its way shortly. Thanks for your continued patience!
-Ry Guy
So… that tells us… not very much but we now know 2 things:
* FRF72, which was the latest official leaked Froyo build, was not the final version (we kind of already suspected that)
* and Froyo is still not ready
cool, thnx for the info
And so the wait continues...
Then again if the google guys think that FRF72 still doesn't meet their standards... could be a good thing.
I'm expecting the OTA'd Froyo to have the option to take over Apple's servers and Ddos them to pieces.
watch, we will have waited all this time for froyo and instead we get gingerbread. (crosses fingers and hopes)
Good to know...seems like Google is taking QA to a new level!
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(jargon) When It's Done - A manufacturer's non-answer to questions about product availability. This answer allows the manufacturer to pretend to communicate with their customers without setting themselves any deadlines or revealing how behind schedule the product really is. It also sounds slightly better than "We don't know".
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http://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/When+It's+Done
(jargon) When It's Done - A manufacturer's non-answer to questions about product availability. This answer allows the manufacturer to pretend to communicate with their customers without setting themselves any deadlines or revealing how behind schedule the product really is. It also sounds slightly better than "We don't know".
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just hopefully it wont be as bad as BlackMesaSource's "When its done" this mod has taken like 3 years
lalalalala
Blueman101 said:
just hopefully it wont be as bad as BlackMesaSource's "When its done" this mod has taken like 3 years
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Pretty sure its actually five years in the making because I've been watching for 3 years and I'm sure they started in 04-05 right after half life source came out. nothing compared to duke nukem forever
JCopernicus said:
lalalalala
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This newb is curious, how are you tracking these things?
flybyme said:
.....nothing compared to duke nukem froyo
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Needed a small edit, all fixed now.
funny how long its taking google when they seemed so confident at I/O that it would be out shortly. what did they discover i wonder that suddenly needed so much attention?
anyway it doesnt bother me. but i know the complainers in the main google forum arent as forgiving. i have to wonder, what do those people think, that google is holding back 2.2 on purpose? what would be the hidden motive!
RogerPodacter said:
funny how long its taking google when they seemed so confident at I/O that it would be out shortly. what did they discover i wonder that suddenly needed so much attention?
anyway it doesnt bother me. but i know the complainers in the main google forum arent as forgiving. i have to wonder, what do those people think, that google is holding back 2.2 on purpose? what would be the hidden motive!
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I agree, its tough to be mad since we already have it anyway. But I'm with you I'm intrigued by the delay, not put off by it. Hopefully google will not be too embarrassed to announce what caused the delay.
Re: Google Officially Updates Us On Froyo Status FRF72 Was Not Final,
I'm still excited, they work hard at Goggle, I'm sure the official update its going to be great when its ready.
I think we should have stick to 2.1 till the official froyo comes up,it's good to see that Desire to N1 Roms are active again
Rodriguezstyle ROM with FRF72 us amazing already
Fastest, smoothest Android I've ever used.
Cant wait for 75
So FRF72 is not the final build. What will be in the new build. Is there a list available what items is not met yet in the FRF72 build?
All this time I always have a feeling that froyo is being delayed due to flash! My thought is that they are waiting for the final flash build to optimize froyo for it.
Adobe has released Full flash 10.1 to android androidcentral.com/adobe-releases-flash-101-partners
so dont think they are waiting on flash anymore
and whilst waiting for flash to be ready they thought. "Hey, let's watch some korean drama and worry about gingerbread later"
Samsung Galaxy S Android 2.2 FroYo upgrade launched
Posted by Luke Johnson on Fri 5 Nov 2010
Android 2.2 update to finally hit the Samsung Galaxy S
After months of waiting owners of the formidable Samsung Galaxy S Android handset will today be able to update their devices to run the latest incarnation of the Google mobile OS, Android 2.2, FroYo.
The flagship Samsung handset became a major player in the smartphone market following its launch back in July but has remained devoid of the OS upgrade despite FroYo landing on a number of its closest competitors.
Related links
* Samsung Galaxy S review
* Samsung Galaxy S vs. HTC DesireAndroid 2.2 FroYo review: First impressions
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“Froyo starts rolling out today; everyone will have it by the end of Nov. To prepare, get the latest version of Kies.” announced Samsung UK via its official Twitter feed earlier today. Kies is Samsung’s proprietary upgrading solution needed to update the handset’s software.
The 4-inch mobile powerhouse will add a host of new features to its already hefty arsenal with the upgrade to Android version 2.2 including the coveted full Flash support and device tethering. Google Maps GPS navigation and voice guidance will also land on the 1GHz processor, 5-megapixel camera touting iPhone challenger.
Elsewhere in the land of Google mobile operating system, the imminent arrival of version 2.3 of the hugely popular software, dubbed Gingerbread, appears closer than ever as latest reports and rumours peg the Android update to make its way to developers in SDK form as early as next week, November 11th.
Have you got a Samsung Galaxy S that is in need of a FroYo boost? Share your thoughts on the Galaxy bound Android update with us via the T3 Twitter and Facebook feeds and stay tuned to T3.com for all the latest on the Gingerbread arrival.
Let me spare you the torrent of flaming you will get.
That does NOT apply to the US Vibrant, it is for the UK market. Yes, it means that we will eventually get it, probably by the end of the year.
There's already like 3 threads about it, plus this is not for US.
“Froyo starts rolling out today; everyone will have it by the end of Nov. To prepare, get the latest version of Kies.” announced Samsung UK via its official Twitter feed earlier today. Kies is Samsung’s proprietary upgrading solution needed to update the handset’s software.
Edit: KerryG beat me to it
end of year 2011?
Could not resist
The * is you
too funny
Unbelievable that people still completely misunderstand this and continue to botch it.
Please lock yet another one of these up.
People, please improve your reading comprehension!
Why is ppl keep posting these thing when it never say anything about us version?
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why do people keep going into threads to post complaints? Don't you know it keeps the thread alive? Or is it ok as long as you have a first 5 post flaming the OP?
All you want to be mods please go hide in whatever corner you came from. Let real mods do the work. Posting "Please lock his thread" doesn't actually lock the thread.
Also the OP NEVER said we are now getting it on our vibrants. He just posted a story...
Back to topic. Was it EVER said anywhere that the US Galaxy S series would get froyo? I know this was assumed because Samsung said the Galaxy S would get it, but I wouldn't doubt them changing their tune now.
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Also the OP NEVER said we are now getting it on our vibrants. He just posted a story...
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We are in a VIBRANT forum.
I don't mind that Samsung is taking their time to release Froyo for the Vibrant.
Now if it ****ing SUCKS on the Vibrant after they release it, I'm a gonna be mad.
In before the lock.
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We are in a VIBRANT forum.
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yes and the vibrant is a variant of the galaxy s so your point is? you still didn't read the entire op and flamed just to flame.
going back to topic, that still doesn't mean we are getting it on our vibrants. see how I said it without calling someone retarded, idiot, etc? More people need to start trying to do that.
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yes and the vibrant is a variant of the galaxy s so your point is? you still didn't read the entire op and flamed just to flame.
going back to topic, that still doesn't mean we are getting it on our vibrants. see how I said it without calling someone retarded, idiot, etc? More people need to start trying to do that.
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I agree...
I'm not sure what happened with the exclusivity of the Android community but I swear people have become more and more abrasive and impatient within the last year.
I remember how peaceful and progressive the G1 forums were since the days of 1.1 - 2.0.
Now it's I WANT MY ****ING FROYO!!! FIX THIS DEVS!!! YOU ALL SUCK!!! YOUR MOMMA WEARS SNOW BOOTS!!!! AAAAAAAAHHH MY LIFE IS HELL!!!!!
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...YOUR MOMMA WEARS SNOW BOOTS!!!! ...
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Well that's just practical, it gets really cold outside sometimes.
Isn't it a news of some interest for us Vibrant owners that UK is getting Froyo for Galaxy S? Sure it is....that is because Vibrant is a Samsung Galaxy S series phone and an official roll out in UK means Samsung has Froyo working well for Galaxy S phones at this time and it means US is going to get Froyo soon.
OP didnt say Vibrant is getting Froyo on so and so date, like a bunch of BS threads in the past.
It’s been confirmed that Samsung’s pushing out the upgrade to Android 2.2 to their Galaxy S and Galaxy A in their home turf of South Korea right now. (It wasn’t said if this included the carrier-specific offerings, so we’ll assume that those are excluded, for now.) Those on Vodafone may also be seeing the upgrade to Android 2.2 very soon as they’ve started pushing their specific upgrade out to their customers. This follows the widescale European rollout for unbranded/carrier-agnostic Galaxy S devices not too long ago. Be on the lookout for these upgrades and let out a big sigh of relief after you’ve received them. Then let’s hope Samsung gets things rolling a bit quicker for the impending Gingerbread release. [via Samsung Hub, Vodafone]
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It’s been confirmed that Samsung’s pushing out the upgrade to Android 2.2 to their Galaxy S and Galaxy A in their home turf of South Korea right now. (It wasn’t said if this included the carrier-specific offerings, so we’ll assume that those are excluded, for now.) Those on Vodafone may also be seeing the upgrade to Android 2.2 very soon as they’ve started pushing their specific upgrade out to their customers. This follows the widescale European rollout for unbranded/carrier-agnostic Galaxy S devices not too long ago. Be on the lookout for these upgrades and let out a big sigh of relief after you’ve received them. Then let’s hope Samsung gets things rolling a bit quicker for the impending Gingerbread release. [via Samsung Hub, Vodafone]
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From Phandroid
According to an article on tgdaily.com, Froyo will be available from Samsung at 8PM tonight. Quote from the article:
Samsung has announced that later tonight, at 8:00 PM, a download will become available to SamsungMobile.com that will be compatible with all Galaxy S devices, upgrading them to Android 2.2.
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I have no idea how reliable this information is, but I'm hoping it's true!
http://www.tgdaily.com/mobility-brief/52521-samsung-galaxy-s-finally-gets-its-turn-with-android-22
I got chewed on T-mo forums for posting this, so good luck with this.
Threat Blvd said:
According to an article on tgdaily.com, Froyo will be available from Samsung at 8PM tonight. Quote from the article:
I have no idea how reliable this information is, but I'm hoping it's true!
http://www.tgdaily.com/mobility-brief/52521-samsung-galaxy-s-finally-gets-its-turn-with-android-22
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One commenter on this site says it appears to only be for Korean Galaxy S owners:
http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/android_22_froyo_out_now_for_samsung_galaxy_smartp.php
Looks to be very much in the "rumor" category at this point.
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I got chewed on T-mo forums for posting this, so good luck with this.
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Chew away
I am not claiming it's true, only sharing the information. At least this is better than one of those "my cousin talked to a guy at a bus stop who works for T-Mobile, and they said Froyo is being released for the Vibrant in 20 minutes!" posts.
Lololol... By 8pm you will get 'froyo'...
F - Flamers
R - Rampaging
O - On
YO - YOu
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I won't flame. the article states that it "should" be compatible with all SGS phones. I don't know, it's been such a ordeal with Samsung/Tmo dragging their feet. Yes, this is better than "this guy i know who knows a guy said we were getting it on xxx" but it still doesn't give us a set date. This just says that SGS phones will get it, very vague with Vibrant/Fascinate/Epic/Captivate phones. We'll see I g uess.
I was going to head over to PinkBerry around 7, but I guess I can wait until 8.
Wait, what's all this phone talk about?
I guess their timezones are off by a few weeks, I am running Froyo for at least a week and a half.
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I guess their timezones are off by a few weeks, I am running Froyo for at least a week and a half.
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I lol'd at this.
Threat Blvd said:
Chew away
I am not claiming it's true, only sharing the information. At least this is better than one of those "my cousin talked to a guy at a bus stop who works for T-Mobile, and they said Froyo is being released for the Vibrant in 20 minutes!" posts.
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I won't. I appreciate that you posted it with a ? at the end. You are posting a link to a blog post for discussion. No one should kill you for that.
Most of the Froyo newbie rumor people would have posted it as "Froyo to be released at 8pm tonight!!!!!"
Those are the idiots who deserve to be chewed out.
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I won't. I appreciate that you posted it with a ? at the end. You are posting a link to a blog post for discussion. No one should kill you for that.
Most of the Froyo newbie rumor people would have posted it as "Froyo to be released at 8pm tonight!!!!!"
Those are the idiots who deserve to be chewed out.
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Lol, I agree with LexLuther.
Besides, most Rom here work leaked 2.2's are better than having stock our j16. I got tired of waiting on Tmo's OTA.
If it ever comes..
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Today, I kept getting random messages from random numbers, so I called in to block, the rep also had a vibrant. So she was like "So... how do you like the vibrant?"
I'm all like "It's sexy"
But it took her so long to solve my problems, so I asked about random stuff like "Do you know when Froyo is coming out?"
She was a pretty "SMART TECH" you don't see those much on help lines now do you?
She replies: Let me check on that for you
and then she came back on and said "it won't be anytime soon, because if it is anytime soon, the tech supports usually knows weeks or months beforehand, but right now, it says 'to be determined'"
SO, do you guys it'll take as long as the rep said?
Unfortunately, this still fell into the same "He Said She Said" category, until we get an official statement, it's all moot. She may be smart but she is still a rep and I doubt she will have access to OTA information. She most likely turned around and asked her best friend/co-worker who is a tech, and he replied that he didn't know anything, and she passes that onto you.
I think she's right. We already know that froyo would come by the end of the year according to the galaxy s twitter. I expect it to come around December 29. Am I so pessimistic?
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I think she's right. We already know that froyo would come by the end of the year according to the galaxy s twitter. I expect it to come around December 29. Am I so pessimistic?
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No, I believe you are pretty optimistic. End of December...well..
same here. I read the same thing in a tech online magazine.. they actually said 2011 but no precise date..
Im running the unofficial TMO froyo posted in this forum though and I like it
Cheers
Personally, I think Samsung should just give up and hand over the kernel source, maybe keep some respect.
The Unoffical Official T-MO Froyo ROM is in the Development section. If that is actually the real thing (and I completely believe it is) I don't see what the delay is for them to just release it.
Even when it does come out, I know for myself that I will keep a custom ROM. Why have stock when you can rock!
I think the point for all of us that are running one of the leaked 2.2 roms is that an official release will have more of the bugs ironed out and it will help with some of the compatibility issues. I for one have tried all flavors and each has a quirk or two. The good thing is that when 2.2 finally drops officially the devs will have almost perfected their roms and it will be easier to implement any changes made by Tmobile.
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I agree with the previous post. I think Samsung leaked the ROM so that the devs here could get their hands on it and make fixes that they then can implement into the official ROM.
So it wouldn't be so embarrasing on Samsung's part? x) Something big like a software update isn't too "easily" leaked. So I do sort of have to agree too.
the samsung galaxy s our phones will not get updated till mid-April claims.
@samsungsuomi :Galaxy S:n Android 2.3 -päivityksen testausvaihe on loppumetreillään. Uusi ohjelmistoversio saapuu ladattavaksi huhtikuun puolivälissä
which translates to: Galaxy S Android 2.3 update to the testing phase is a late stage. The new version of the software download arrives in mid-April,
if these sources are correct Samsung owes us all a apology as they promised march we will be getting gingerbread
or by getting gingerbread they meant leaked ?
TechKidTarek said:
if these sources are correct Samsung owes us all a apology as they promised march we will be getting gingerbread
or by getting gingerbread they meant leaked ?
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An apology for what - all news we were receiving the past months were "unofficial sources" or rumours or "i know i guy who knows a guy who works at S", I never actually read anything official, e.g. on a samsung website.
Even though the news, which was "almost" official (samsung romania facebook), rejected an actual release date at the end of march.
Just stay relaxed, an update will come in a few hours / days / weeks / years
Kind regards,
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I don't know why people always think that they deserve an apology from Samsung or that they get bad software support. Does anybody here have a written (or otherwise) guarantee that Sammy is giving us GB at a specific time? I guess not...
I admit that the first Eclair ROMs were crap and the GPS could be better, but seriously stop the whining, it's like talking with little kids that want their candy! Just wait until it's done and if it takes two weeks longer to sort out some bugs, then so be it...
I agree....they should apologize for possibly not living up to "a friend of a friend said" rumors, or for changing their roadmap to suit the pronouncements off the cuff on the facebook page of a regional Samsung distributer in a small market?
Really?
Or because Tricky used what he felt could possibly be the final 2.3.3 (though from user reports if it IS final, to quote Ricky Ricardo, Samsung's got some 'splainin to do) to make a big entry into the ROM Kitchen team?
Somehow I don't think so. No apologies required, from anyone. Just patience.
To be honest, considering no source is released and there seem to be various problems/quirks with JVK, I would prefer they take a couple weeks and give us a much more ready for prime time version.
Relax, Gingerbread is coming...just be patient and enjoy your 2.2.1 Custom ROMs and be grateful again you aren't stuck with just a single flavor of iOS.
Since I'm a new user and I cant post links, I'm just going to quote. Finnish branch of Samsung has announced a press release a few hours ago through a publishing company:
Translated in Google Translate said:
Samsung Android-range success of the phone Galaxy S is updated Android 2.3. Update arrives in mid-April.
Soon Android successful Android phone is updated Android 2.3 (Gingerbread)-version of the software. The update is a welcome gift for the Galaxy S owners. Update the test phase is late stage, and the new OS version arrives users to download in mid-April.
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Google "epressi Samsung Galaxy S 2.3" for the article and translate it through Google Translate.
I'm wondering why the press release is not on Samsung's website.
VillePie said:
I'm wondering why the press release is not on Samsung's website.
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Until it IS on Samsung's website, or we see it in Korean, I would tend to take that with a grain of salt.
FFS...
You have Gingerbread now. It's stable and useable. This can't hold you over a few more weeks?
I swear people just like hearing themselves *****.
am now on 2.3.3
gingerbread!
why wine about waiting for kies just flash it ya self.
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am now on 2.3.3
gingerbread!
why wine about waiting for kies just flash it ya self.
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Maybe because it looks like JVK is not the final release version and still has some bugs?.
The thing with these web blogs and tech news pages is they all tend to get their "exclusive" news from the same sources which 9 out of 10 times are wrong. Case in point recent news quoting Samsung Mobile Facebook page which wasn't as it was the SamsungGalaxyS Facebook page which looked remarkably similar until you read the owner info. Something you would think they would check first really. Egg face say no more.
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FFS...
You have Gingerbread now. It's stable and useable. This can't hold you over a few more weeks?
I swear people just like hearing themselves *****.
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I can't see why people can't use their time anticipating the new release. It's not your time, obviously. Some people want to flash their phone with a safe, official firmware and want to know some ETA when it's going to happen. It's not like people are F5'ing every Android news site. Of course, this can hold but can't there be any speculation? It's up to XDA's moderators to decide, is this topic worth of discussing.
What comes to the first post, this is good news (if true) and in my opinion most reliable newsbit so far about Gingerbread. You shouldn't take it for granted that Samsung is liable to update its firmwares and "breaks promises" if doesn't. Operating as a company, Samsung's every firmware update is giving something to us, the customers. When people buy their phones, Samsung's is not liable to update firmwares if there's nothing critically wrong with it. Froyo is good but now we are on the road towards something even better. And it's a win-win situation to us.
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Maybe because it looks like JVK is not the final release version and still has some bugs?.
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you must have done somthing wrong then as I have no bugs at all been on it since saturday
I think even mid April is a tad optimistic. That's like 2 weeks.. and there's quite a bit left to fix and add. Together with the speed of which samsung works, I'm guessing May at the earliest.
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I don't know why people always think that they deserve an apology from Samsung or that they get bad software support. Does anybody here have a written (or otherwise) guarantee that Sammy is giving us GB at a specific time? I guess not...
I admit that the first Eclair ROMs were crap and the GPS could be better, but seriously stop the whining, it's like talking with little kids that want their candy! Just wait until it's done and if it takes two weeks longer to sort out some bugs, then so be it...
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