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GPS satellite detection

Hi, I've got TomTom Navigator 6 installed on my Trinity and it all works fine, except it takes about 5 minutes before it picks up any satellites when I run it - does anybody know if there's a fix to enable to gps chip to pick up satellites a bit quicker than this? Even when I'm outside and away from tall buildings it's the same. Any help or suggestions would be great.
Thanks

Works fine on my Trinity. I think I have the following : Trinity-Radio-ROM-1[1].41.00.11-by-ZakMcRofl, installed so maybe try putting this Radio ROM on. There maybe better Radio ROMs but this one works fine for me.
Less than a minute from a cold start and even works inside the house. It is faster at getting a fix than my Kaiser.

I have the official HTC ROM upgrade on my Trinity and like the OP it takes a wee while to get a fix. I am learninig to live with it.

in my rom i have a program called "QuickGPS"; every 3 days it downloads a file (few KB) that contains some data about satellite positions - this should accelerate FIXing process... in theory.
Try it!
An alternative could be having GPS "always on" with another program running minimized!

I have the exact the same problem using destinator! Well i just read somewhere that a prog called "gps gate" seems to make our job but i dont know yet.I have to find it and try it. Plus i dont want to have always gps on cause i need battery to speak...

as mentioned in a previous post, id check the radio version u have installed, and maybe update it mate....
different radio versions run differently with roms......its pot luck.
try the 1.46....or the 1.50 radio....they work well on mine...
Radio 1.38.00.11
Radio 1.41.00.11
Radio 1.46.00.11/30.11
Radio 1.50.08.11

I tried the Radio 1.50.08.11 and found that it indeed did pick up GPS 2x faster than my original Radio, issue was it has no 3G capability, it switched me to EDGE, so I went back.
Also HTC QuickGPS fails to download the updates for me....

You can try that :
http://rapidshare.com/files/25607303/SeaSGEE.exe
It's like QuickGPS ...
Just run it each time before using the GPS (don't wait the 3 days) ... It's works fine for me ...

try PDAMOBIZ ROM's
try PDAMOBIZ ROM's for me they can get a much faster fix than all the others
maybe due to some tweaks - not sure but costantly got a fix in <60sec. compared to 4/5 min. in the same location

................or you could try the new radio thats out as of today for the trinity......
1.56.70.11

desolateone said:
I tried the Radio 1.50.08.11 and found that it indeed did pick up GPS 2x faster than my original Radio, issue was it has no 3G capability, it switched me to EDGE, so I went back.
Also HTC QuickGPS fails to download the updates for me....
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Radio 1.50.08.11 works like a charm for me....full 3G and HSDPA so I am not sure what the problem is on your P3600i.
I have found that GPS Quick Position is useful (even if just for the Placebo effect). Time to first fix is not an issue for me....lots of people complain about it on the Trinity and compare it to the PNA GPS units...but really there has to be something of a compromise on a phone/GPS/PDA otherwise the thing would be a Laptop.

Andych said:
Radio 1.50.08.11 works like a charm for me....full 3G and HSDPA so I am not sure what the problem is on your P3600i.
I have found that GPS Quick Position is useful (even if just for the Placebo effect). Time to first fix is not an issue for me....lots of people complain about it on the Trinity and compare it to the PNA GPS units...but really there has to be something of a compromise on a phone/GPS/PDA otherwise the thing would be a Laptop.
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I'm trialling 1.56.70.11 now, but again it has switched me to EGDE.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2396785#post2396785

GPS Not working?

I have tried villian rom and modaco rom but when i enable gps sattelites in the phone option it says its enabled but gps applications never get a fix and the satellie symbol doesnt ever appear in the task bar. Also I dont know for sure when this started happening because i have not tried using gps for a while, but would flashing the hacked spl cause it? are there any fixes?

I have tried Villian 5.2 and aHero 0.7, with Radio 63.18.55.06JU_6.35.09.26.
GPS get a lock, short time later it lose the lock.
Tested with different Software (GPS Test, Igo, Navigon, Maps)

does the radio affect the gps?

sandmen said:
I have tried Villian 5.2 and aHero 0.7, with Radio 63.18.55.06JU_6.35.09.26.
GPS get a lock, short time later it lose the lock.
Tested with different Software (GPS Test, Igo, Navigon, Maps)
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I noticed following with my phone: GPS gets lock (with Navigon, Google Maps ...) and works fine while phone is connected to the 2G base station. As soon it's switched to the 3G, GPS losts it's lock. If 3G is disabled (*#*#INFO*#*#) everthing works fine. Also lock gets back as soon as 3G is disabled. I'm using MoDaCo 3.2 and did try two different radio ROMs: 63.18.55.06JU_6.35.09.26 and 63.18.55.06JU_6.35.08.26. Hope this helps.

on the 2.1 roms that are available atm the phone needs to be booted with gps turned ON, otherwise it won't find a fix. when you are going back from 2.1 to 1.5 (e.g. modaco) you need to reflash the radio to make the gps work again. that is valid for the JU 09.26 radio, not sure about older versions.

There was an issue with flashing some of the 2.1's and then going back to a restored ROM. I am using the Mr Bang Performance rom, but couldn't get a lock. The solution was to reflash the radio and it should work then.
I'd give that a go, it might sort you out.
EDIT: I see kerndog already pointed that out...

ah perfect, reflashing the radio worked! thanks guys

HD2 Desire/Froyo whats working for you?

Maybe I shouldn't post this thread here(or even at all for that matter), but I don't think there is a dedicated Android section for HD2 yet? **MODS DO WHAT YOU SEE FIT WITH THIS THREAD. THANKS
So I'm running
ROM
ELEGANCIA V9.5
RADIO
2.10.50.28_2
SERVICE PROVIDER
T-mobile USA
DROID FLAVOR
both Deisre v5 and dan1j3l Froyo
zIMAGE
Cotulla 23 jul 10
DUAL BOOT
yes, JMZ
So far for me the Desire v5 has been rock solid. I've had only one person say they hear an echo from me. This was after I loaded the JMZ cab. Don't know if that's the reason? Everything else works pretty stable enough for me. I can't save pictures from the internet though (save as-- get's an error and forces a quit).
Froyo with the latest Cotulla zImage runs good too. I like it alot better(v1) but market place will not download apps and mobile network internet works kindof. I can't login to certin sites, Facebook for one but the facebook app works fine. WiFi all sites work. I do already have my t-mo APNs in there.
WHAT WORKS FOR YOU= ROMS AND ALL?
PS are these ROMs considered rooted?

to be honest don't really think there's any need for this thread, there are aldready threads open for people to discuss what is & what isn't working

Thanks, I wasn't sure if I wanted to post this in the thread. Useful or just useful to me?

I assure you that this thread is useful.
For me: I'm using Energy Rom (July 21) with Radio 2.12.50.02_2 and HSPL 2 and everything works fine except the Battery.. Desire v5 is kinda using alot of battery and Dans build is much worse and it kinda lags and things, and since i'm having that Sleep of death thing... i deleted it
That was my opinion

not bad
but not usefull either. Back to WinMo for now...

Hi, I'm using Desire V5, works like a charm. Unique problem is battery drain (lasts 8 hours with no data connection).
My settings: a 4GB class 2 SD, radio 2.12.50.02_2. The rom is the Axlor Leo v3.5 (win 23569). I can't hear people speaking in the phone, but they can hear me (but I know it's a winmo ROM problem)

Sick Nasty said:
Maybe I shouldn't post this thread here(or even at all for that matter), but I don't think there is a dedicated Android section for HD2 yet? **MODS DO WHAT YOU SEE FIT WITH THIS THREAD. THANKS
So I'm running
ROM
ELEGANCIA V9.5
RADIO
2.10.50.28_2
SERVICE PROVIDER
T-mobile USA
DROID FLAVOR
both Deisre v5 and dan1j3l Froyo
zIMAGE
Cotulla 23 jul 10
DUAL BOOT
yes, JMZ
So far for me the Desire v5 has been rock solid. I've had only one person say they hear an echo from me. This was after I loaded the JMZ cab. Don't know if that's the reason? Everything else works pretty stable enough for me. I can't save pictures from the internet though (save as-- get's an error and forces a quit).
Froyo with the latest Cotulla zImage runs good too. I like it alot better(v1) but market place will not download apps and mobile network internet works kindof. I can't login to certin sites, Facebook for one but the facebook app works fine. WiFi all sites work. I do already have my t-mo APNs in there.
WHAT WORKS FOR YOU= ROMS AND ALL?
PS are these ROMs considered rooted?
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hey i checked the radios and i went trough all of them, if this helps in any way id say use the 2.12.50.02...2
megaupload .com/?d=9GU2FF3X
i used most of them and the most i had was 3 bars in my house (Los Angeles) and now i have 4 bars and 3g at all times anywhere near my house

Running TMO-UK 1.72 Base ROM, 576 RAM Enabled. 2.10.50 Radio
Hangs at the HTC screen. sometimes it moves beyond the HTC screen I get a green screen and the device freezes.

First let me say I find this thread very useful. I'd like to see more threads like this that follow a certain build (dan1j3l Froyo Desire Build, darkstone Eclair Desire Build, Froyo build by dan1j3l V1, etc). Then you throw in the variable of the zImage you're using. Otherwise you end up with 2 or 3 discussions with 500 posts.
Back on topic, I have desire v5 and Cotulla_zImage_CABDET_NOSPEEDDY.rar
Even with a 16gig class 2 microSD, it's fast.
Working:
Exchange mail (contacts, calendar, email)
IMAP and POP mail
Wifi even with DHCP (very fast)
3G data
Android Market
Camera, Camcorder
Call audio on phone.
Very few stutters, no sleep of death.
Presence sensor
GPS
Compass seems a little flakey, but works
Typing is very responsive
USB charging
Wired headset audio
Not Working:
USB data connecti0n to transfer files.
Bluetooth headset connects, but no audio in calls (pretty universal issue on all builds)
This combo, with my radio and ROM are fast and stable enough for daily use. Unfortunately the lack of Bluetooth audio is a deal-breaker.

ROM
Pongster's HyperRom V15
RADIO
2.10.50.08_2
SERVICE PROVIDER
T-mobile USA
DROID FLAVOR
dan1j3l Froyo w/ElBartoMe rootfs
zIMAGE
Cotulla 23 jul 10
DUAL BOOT
yes, JMZ
Working calls, working incoming mms, no outgoing mms. working wifi, working 3g, working 5mp camera, working headphone jack, working back speaker. adb working and so does sd mount
currently testing desire v5 for the weekend

thecrater said:
Running TMO-UK 1.72 Base ROM, 576 RAM Enabled. 2.10.50 Radio
Hangs at the HTC screen. sometimes it moves beyond the HTC screen I get a green screen and the device freezes.
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Exactly same ROM/RAM but using Leo_RADIO_2.07.50.27_2.
Everything works great but I don't seem to get GPS working with Google Navigation. How to test if GPS is working?

It isn't. Probably won't for some time. Don't think this is a dev priority.

I'm using stock wimo from htc 1.66, only updated the radio rom to 2.10.50.19.2. I'm using now dan1j3l-LeoFroyo-Sense-PR1 and it works good. There are some things bugging me. Can't get GPS to work, camera does not work, and with this build i get diferent icons on top (battery and signal) then with the stock nexus one rom, is this a cab that has to be uninstalled.
I'm can already switch between sense and stock, so thats good.
For the rest everyting works well and i would say that it is for me almost a daily use rom.
Anybody any idea how to get gps working and camera?

I got 1 ? How do I get rid of the robotic voice during calls? I have tmobile stock rom 2.13 and radio 2.10.50.26 and desire build v5 I also used nospeedy zimage. I need help everything else works great!

Issues
Using Dans Froyo with the latest zimage (25/7).
This is on Xannytech 2.3 and radio 2.12.
known issues are
Robotic voice. (Any tricks guys?)
Torch/flash does not work
GPS.
The rest seems good.

willgill said:
First let me say I find this thread very useful. I'd like to see more threads like this that follow a certain build (dan1j3l Froyo Desire Build, darkstone Eclair Desire Build, Froyo build by dan1j3l V1, etc). Then you throw in the variable of the zImage you're using. Otherwise you end up with 2 or 3 discussions with 500 posts.
Back on topic, I have desire v5 and Cotulla_zImage_CABDET_NOSPEEDDY.rar
Even with a 16gig class 2 microSD, it's fast.
Working:
Exchange mail (contacts, calendar, email)
IMAP and POP mail
Wifi even with DHCP (very fast)
3G data
Android Market
Camera, Camcorder
Call audio on phone.
Very few stutters, no sleep of death.
Presence sensor
GPS
Compass seems a little flakey, but works
Typing is very responsive
USB charging
Wired headset audio
Not Working:
USB data connecti0n to transfer files.
Bluetooth headset connects, but no audio in calls (pretty universal issue on all builds)
This combo, with my radio and ROM are fast and stable enough for daily use. Unfortunately the lack of Bluetooth audio is a deal-breaker.
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your camcorder is working in desire v5 also you say your GPS is working? Really or is it just when your on WiFi? If those 2 really work, please tell me how to get mine working? Thanks

on stock ROM
RUU_Leo_hTC_Asia_WWE_1.66.707.1_Radio_Signed_15.30.50.07U_2.06.51.07_Ship
Radio_2_12_50_02_2
Cotulla_zImage_CABDET_NOSPEEDDY
latest ROOTFS.IMG perpetuates reading battery status so reverted back to respective eclair and froyo packages.
dan1j3l-LeoFroyo-Sense-PR1
cams do not work
desirebuild_v5
cams working
both versions are rock stable
wifi, bluetooth, 3g, wcdma/umts, hsdpa/hsupa, texts, calls, battery charging works
will continue with tests and findings on
gps, mms and other stuff
on a personal note
still prefer winmo's sense than andy's
but i can tell ya all android was meant for hd2
with it's big and well spaced ui it's just perfect
and having dualbooting winmo and andy is just sweet
that being the case does anybody knows how to switch to launchpro mode after setting sense as default please

noellenchris said:
your camcorder is working in desire v5 also you say your GPS is working? Really or is it just when your on WiFi? If those 2 really work, please tell me how to get mine working? Thanks
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I didn't do anything special. When I started my Android journey, I couldn't get anything to load. Then I realized I had an outdated radio. I've always liked Dutty's ROMs so I loaded the one below and the most recent radio I could find.
I boot into WinMO. I already have HTC Sense killed because I just use SPB Mobile shell. I kill SPB Mobile shell and press CLRCAD.exe, then Haret.
I retested to make sure they're working. The GPS isn't working off WiFi. Google Maps always knows where I'm at and weather location is always where I'm at. I'm assuming GPS is working then.
However, I may be mistaken about the camcorder. I fires up and I and zoom in/out. However, double clicking the screen and it doesn't seem to be recording to memory.

to switch between sence and stock interface if that is what you mean.
---> settings ->Applications ->manage applications ->All ->HTC sense -> Force stop. then select the home button and there you can select HTC sense or Launcher.

johnnyvb78 said:
to switch between sence and stock interface if that is what you mean.
---> settings ->Applications ->manage applications ->All ->HTC sense -> Force stop. then select the home button and there you can select HTC sense or Launcher.
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thank you my friend
oh and one more thing how do i take a shot on camera
what do i press
anyone

[Q] Spica GPS problems

Hi all,
I am trying to find out how widespread the GPS locking problems are with this model. I am talking about non-assisted GPS, which can be tested using the "GPS Test" application on the market.
So, how is the GPS on your phone performing using GPS Test? Please give some detailed information like lock time, number of sattelites, urban/countryside location, and if possible firmware version of your phone.
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My Spica cannot get a lock at all, will see up to 11 satellites but most of them with signal strength bars at zero. Firmware versions tested (all same result)
1.5 (XEJB2)
2.1 (XXJD1, XXJD4, XXJF2, XXJC3)

Same pb with my wife's spica. Samdroid version with FE7.
Can't lock withour assistance. What a pitty.

Go to your Settings -> Date & Time -> Uncheck Automatic and see if it helps
Or you can try this (need root)
http://forum.samdroid.net/f38/gps-speedup-1262/
http://forum.samdroid.net/f10/fasterfix-1747/ <-- same but easier

i can get a fix under 2 minutes if I stay still...moving, it can take an eternity

AfzalivE said:
i can get a fix under 2 minutes if I stay still...moving, it can take an eternity
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http://forum.samdroid.net/f38/gps-speedup-1262/ <-- if you're willing to root you can edit it to your location.

i just don't bother with that any more...I might do it again after a month without wiping any data
rooting is like breathing to me ... as it would be to most of the people here

Anyone found a solution yet?
My spica wont connect via gps either. It just keeps blinking and nothing happens...not even after 30min.
I've tried GPStest and it reports that 12 satellites are in view but non in use, and there is no bars everything is at 0...not picking any signal at all :S
I tried my friend's one too and he gets a signal imediatley and a lock after about 10-30seconds.
Any solution to this? Is it a software problem or hardware problem?

Zitko said:
Anyone found a solution yet?
My spica wont connect via gps either. It just keeps blinking and nothing happens...not even after 30min.
I've tried GPStest and it reports that 12 satellites are in view but non in use, and there is no bars everything is at 0...not picking any signal at all :S
I tried my friend's one too and he gets a signal imediatley and a lock after about 10-30seconds.
Any solution to this? Is it a software problem or hardware problem?
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I installed the alpha CyanogenMod 2.2 and GPS is working like a charm!
Problem was with the wrong libraries being used in many of the custom roms found at SamdroidMod. Devs found out about this issue and fixed it in this 2.2 release.

I'm running original firmwire which i got on the phone. (XXJE4)
I'm not willing to install alpha cyanogen of froyo yet...Is there really no other solution? I've had a chance to compare my spica to another one with original firmwire (JE4 too) ant that other spica worked while my gps had no lock. Also i had the chance to try one with samdroid on and it worked too.
Mine works from time to time. at the moment it works, earlier today it wouldn't get a lock no matter how long i waited.

First thing-delete /data/xtra.bin- this is data for agps which seems to cause gps locking problem. You can do it with RootExplorer/SUFBS or any file manager with root rights. Or use GPS Status and Reset agps data from setting. You can also try to swap libsec-ril.so, JF2 version works best for me. If you want I can provide update packages for libsec-ril.so

i have installed cyanogenmod 7.1 on mine, and can get a lock under 1min30s outside or under 3min in the bus near the window.

I have a rooted spica with android version: 2.2.2, baseband version: i570EXXJC1, kernel version:2.6.29 and Mod version:SamdroidMod-2.2.2-a9.
When I go to google maps app and click set location I always get an error saying: location temporary unavailable ! I checked the option on Settings->Location and security->Use wireless networks and use GPS satellites. And my phone is connected to the internet.
I just bought the phone last week, and its really embarrassing not getting this to work.

schermvlieger said:
I installed the alpha CyanogenMod 2.2 and GPS is working like a charm!
Problem was with the wrong libraries being used in many of the custom roms found at SamdroidMod. Devs found out about this issue and fixed it in this 2.2 release.
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thanks for the useful info, you saved my life by this post.
i thought my gps is wrong in my spica then it was just a bug in the cooked rom. cyanogen mod is cool and gps is working now perfectly.
thanks again!

With spicagenmod + hp/yonip kernel gps work very well.

GPS not working CM7

Hi, as the title says, my GPS doesn´t work with cm7.
I already reflashed the ROMs and tried different ones (Neutrino 2.5p2 and Morrisoft 0.7).
I also reflashed the radio.
I have gapps and gps-status installed and I´ve already tried to re-calibrate it, download A-GPS data etc.
It sometimes finds 1 satellite, but thats gone after some seconds.
GPS did work on stock 2.3.4 Bell firmware.
did anyone have this problem, too and solved it?

I feel your pain. I have Neutrino 2.2 installed and the GPS takes a few minutes to lock and it is not as accurate as when I had the stock 2.3.4 AT&T rom. I have tried all the fixes already but nothing seems to help...

yeah, that´s the same problem i have.
I think i´m gonna try some other roms.

Same here.
I'm using a sportstracking app called Endomondo, which has an "Auto Pause" feature that automatically halts the time when I'm not moving.
This worked without issues on my old phone, HTC Desire (CM7), for over a year now.
But with my Atrix I have major problems using the sportstracker. During a bike ride, it always halts the time because the app thinks that I'm not moving.
It seems that GPS lost its signal very often.
Don't know what I can do here, also tried different roms, tweaks, radios....strange.
Is there any logfile I can analyze?

you should maybe try differents radios to see.
Have you try to wait some time 30sec/1min?

so which radio can i flash? I´m currently on
N_01.77.33P

Already tried. 30p and 37p att radio and europe 100.00R. Didn't see a big difference in GPS function regarding my sportstracking.

metlca said:
so which radio can i flash? I´m currently on
N_01.77.33P
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Don't know att radios, but you can try N_01.77.37P and/or N_01.77.30P for example
see here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Motorola_Atrix_4G#Radios
metlca: you should create a thread for your issue...

I did , this is the thread created by me
I just flashed another rom, (this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1545001)
but i still have the gps problems ;(

metlca said:
I did , this is the thread created by me
I just flashed another rom, (this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1545001)
but i still have the gps problems ;(
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Sorry I wanted to say "drakohla"...
Try to flash an other radio. Flashing a ROM doesn't change radio

drakohla said:
Same here.
I'm using a sportstracking app called Endomondo, which has an "Auto Pause" feature that automatically halts the time when I'm not moving.
This worked without issues on my old phone, HTC Desire (CM7), for over a year now.
But with my Atrix I have major problems using the sportstracker. During a bike ride, it always halts the time because the app thinks that I'm not moving.
It seems that GPS lost its signal very often.
Don't know what I can do here, also tried different roms, tweaks, radios....strange.
Is there any logfile I can analyze?
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I had to comment on this one. I had similar troubles using endomondo sports tracker app. This began after I downgraded my radio from 37p to 36p. I am back on 37p which is the stock radio on current AT&T USA. I will create a new thread for comparison between these two radios.
Sent from my MB860 CM7 Nightly latest version. Leave your charger at home! XDA Premium

Guys, visit here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1554799
## AT&T USA 37p Radio -VS- 36p Radio ## if you run AT&T USA 37p or 36p radios.
Sent from my MB860 CM7 Nightly latest version. Leave your charger at home! XDA Premium

vsg005 said:
Don't know att radios, but you can try N_01.77.37P and/or N_01.77.30P for example
see here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Motorola_Atrix_4G#Radios
metlca: you should create a thread for your issue...
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30p radio is ancient and downlad speeds are ridiculously slow. 30p radio will save you lots of battery if you dont really use mobile internet for heavy data.
*GPS is just triangulation, so technically any radio should be able to get good reception as long as you don't flash a radio and use navigation across country immediately after.
Sent from my MB860 CM7 Nightly latest version. Leave your charger at home! XDA Premium

Try RC1 my gps locked in withen 5 sec
Sent from my MB860 using XDA

I've tried "faster fix" in the market and it seems to make the gps lock a bit faster, still no where near what it used to be though.

The fix is fast enough at my site, maybe ~ 20seconds ...
But accuracy is very....how can i say...unstable.
Is there any logfile i can check?

mine will never lock on during first attempt. however, if i try to use nav, then exit, then nav again it locks on in like 3 seconds.
neutrino 2.5

so can i flash any radio, no matter what my current is and what my provider is?
(currently fido in canada)

search in dev forum returned this fix http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1540642.
in my experience, use the latest radio for your country/carrier otherwise your 3g/4g down/up speed will suffer.
I have use the fix above and edited it for australia and I get a quick gps fix every time all the time on any rom and radio combination.
Hope this help

I don´t need 3g or 4g, what´s the best gps-radio?
Edit: I can´t flash the gps fix, "installation aborted"