Wow. just plain wow. Did not see this coming at all.
Google will stop selling it online, and instead will let the carriers sell the phone instead.
Reason? Google says it's because customers want a hands-on experience before buying the phone itself.
The online store was for early adopters+niche market.
Just to clarify things up: The Nexus One is not dead, it just won't be available online, only through carriers as stated by the employee:
More retail availability. As we make Nexus One available in more countries we’ll follow the same model we’ve adopted in Europe, where we're working with partners to offer Nexus One to consumers through existing retail channels. We’ll shift to a similar model globally.
From retail to viewing. Once we have increased the availability of Nexus One devices in stores, we'll stop selling handsets via the web store, and will instead use it as an online store window to showcase a variety of Android phones available globally.
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http://googleblog.blogspot.com/
http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/14/google-changes-nexus-one-plans-will-stop-selling-handsets-onlin/
sorry, you're late buddy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=681521
rheza02 said:
sorry, you're late buddy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=681521
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It's different news tho. That one was an article on why Verizon probably didn't carry the Nexus One. This is google officially coming out to say they will stop selling it.
If it really is repetitive, then feel free to lock. 0.o
Does this mean we can finally get subsidized N1s? If so I'm going to sale my N1 while they are still worth something. Then use money to get subsidized one.
The ONLY thing Google has conceded, in no longer exclusively selling the N1 via website, is that people don't want to buy something site-unseen.
Nexus One lives on, but now will be more readily available for people to "kick the tires" before buying.
wondercoolguy said:
Does this mean we can finally get subsidized N1s? If so I'm going to sale my N1 while they are still worth something. Then use money to get subsidized one.
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You can already with t-mobile.
They are probably gonna be available with more plans now though.
Interesting... I wonder how Google is going to get retail stores to showcase the N1? By Google paying the Retailers a portion of the profits for each one sold but maintaining control or by giving the retailers total control over the phone and the retailers paying Google for each N1 sold?
Thoughts?
Shoot, I'm keeping mine. They sold so few of them, it might someday be a collectors item.
So then how are AT&T versions of the N1 to be sold when AT&T clearly doesn't want to sell it?
Google's Blog
I am less than happy about this.
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Interesting... I wonder how Google is going to get retail stores to showcase the N1? By Google paying the Retailers a portion of the profits for each one sold but maintaining control or by giving the retailers total control over the phone and the retailers paying Google for each N1 sold?
Thoughts?
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IDK, if you were me... would you feel better picking a N1 up in the store or ordering from the online store. I'm liking the online store better for some reason..
So now since my 2 year contract is up on both of my lines, will i be able to get it subsidized through tmobile dirt cheap?
e4604 said:
So now since my 2 year contract is up on both of my lines, will i be able to get it subsidized through tmobile dirt cheap?
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I doubt it and its probably going to sell for the same price $180/2 year.
Why cant they do both ?
Interesting.
BTW this may mark the first time in history a celphone store worker was right. Had one insisting the Nexus One would be avilable in Tmo stores by June.....of course that was followed by "we're also getting the iphone"...so....
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I doubt it and its probably going to sell for the same price $180/2 year.
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Well 180 is better then 570, which is what i paid for my current n1. Although i just might wait and see what else they come out with.
I think this is good news. Im predicting nexus sales will jump up 80%.
FINALLY
Finally, we can stop seeing all these RETARDED articles about "awwwmagad was the nexus one a faylure!?!?"
NO!
The Nexus One was GREAT!!!! The store was not.
If it wasn't for the N1, phones like the Incredible or the Evo would most likely have come out much, much later than they did/will. It certainly raised the bar for "high-end" Android phones, and smartphones in general.
I'm also sad about this, because as attn1 mentioned, what's going to happen when carriers like AT&T don't want to carry a particular phone in the future?? Buying a phone through Google for AT&T was like a big "Hey AT&T, here's a /middle finger for you!"
AND not only does it allow phone manufacturers to make and sell a device without worrying about the carrier blocking it, but it allows for selling it worldwide without even taking into account WHICH carrier it's designed for. Grab the phone, use it in Canada, India, Europe, etc.
How many people on this forum would never have an N1 had it not been for the Google store?
Last but certainly not least, it also leaves the phone bloat-ware free! Can you imagine the Nexus Two with AT&T crapware and not being able to install non-market apps like the Backflop??
I really, really, really hope this isn't the last we've seen of the Google store. There are just too many benefits aside from the above three. At the least, I hope the Google Store will be an addition to carrier-sold phones.
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FINALLY
Finally, we can stop seeing all these RETARDED articles about "awwwmagad was the nexus one a faylure!?!?"
NO!
The Nexus One was GREAT!!!! The store was not.
If it wasn't for the N1, phones like the Incredible or the Evo would most likely have come out much, much later than they did/will. It certainly raised the bar for "high-end" Android phones, and smartphones in general.
I'm also sad about this, because as attn1 mentioned, what's going to happen when carriers like AT&T don't want to carry a particular phone in the future?? Buying a phone through Google for AT&T was like a big "Hey AT&T, here's a /middle finger for you!"
AND not only does it allow phone manufacturers to make and sell a device without worrying about the carrier blocking it, but it allows for selling it worldwide without even taking into account WHICH carrier it's designed for. Grab the phone, use it in Canada, India, Europe, etc.
How many people on this forum would never have an N1 had it not been for the Google store?
Last but certainly not least, it also leaves the phone bloat-ware free! Can you imagine the Nexus Two with AT&T crapware and not being able to install non-market apps like the Backflop??
I really, really, really hope this isn't the last we've seen of the Google store. There are just too many benefits aside from the above three. At the least, I hope the Google Store will be an addition to carrier-sold phones.
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Agreed.
Which is why I dont see why they cant do both.
I probably wouldnt have the N1 if it wasnt unlocked and available through Google. I was only a few months into contract.
xManMythLegend said:
Why cant they do both ?
Interesting.
BTW this may mark the first time in history a celphone store worker was right. Had one insisting the Nexus One would be avilable in Tmo stores by June.....of course that was followed by "we're also getting the iphone"...so....
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If you spew bull**** long enough, some of it is bound to come true.
JCopernicus said:
You can already with t-mobile.
They are probably gonna be available with more plans now though.
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I'm on a family plan so I could never get the N1 for anything less than 529.00; I had to wait till some crazy chick on craigs list sold it to me for 400 because she just wanted an Iphone, lol
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Shoot, I'm keeping mine. They sold so few of them, it might someday be a collectors item.
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Yea, just like the Jordana is a collectors item....oh wait.
Related
http://www.pcworld.com/article/1867...irst_week_of_sales_were_weak_report_says.html
Thats a ton of complaints coming out for only 20k sales.
Not being available in T-Mo stores really hurt sales. I think being able to see this screen and hold it in person would move a hell of alot more units.
he Nexus One didn't benefit from such a strong marketing push like the Motorola Droid (estimated $100 million), despite Google's phone featuring so-far unique Android features. This has reflected in poor first week sales for the Nexus One, as per the table below. (Click image above to enlarge)
Instead, Google chose a soft launch for the Nexus One, selling it through their website. But the steep $500 Google is asking for the unlocked device and the mixed reviews the Nexus One received didn't help to maximize first week sales.
Flurry's report mentions that the Nexus One lacks the "wow factor" and the general perception that the device is not seen as revolutionary, but rather just evolutionary from other Android phones.
Om Malik, of GigaOm, notes that Flurry's estimated sales numbers for the Nexus One might even be a bit far fetched. He mentions Google has been giving away the Nexus One to its employees and also lent it to many members of the media for reviews, which could have bumped up Flurry's analytics.
Next to the poor first week sales figure, the Nexus One has also seen mounting complaints over the 3G connectivity of the device and the lack of developer tools for the Android 2.1 platform.
In her review of the Nexus One, my colleague Ginny Mies notes that Google's phone "isn't quite the game-changer people hoped it would be, though it certainly trumps other phones in performance, display quality, and speed." Next to pros like a dazzling OLED display, snappy performance and sleep, slim design, she marks the lack of multitouch support and the software keyboard as cons.
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I'm actually glad. I dont want the nexus one to become a fashion icon like the iPhone did.
EDIT: YOU! WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING HERE
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I'm actually glad. I dont want the nexus one to become a fashion icon like the iPhone did.
EDIT: YOU! WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING HERE
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awww Fuuudgdeeee
Had to be 2 new yorkers didnt it. lol
Agree with this though. Ive been saying I hope a ton of people want it but few get it. That way Google is pressed to resolve there customer service and HW issues and early adopters dont look like bandwagon jumpers for the latest fashion device.
On the flip side... I hope Google doesnt turn around and blame Tmobile. Tmo and Google have been continually bringing out Android sets I hope that relationship doesnt sour because of this.
Actually 20k in sales for a phone that has reportedly had the vast majority of users buy the unlocked version is pretty damn good (Leo Laporte mentioned it on TWiT on Sunday)
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I'm actually glad. I dont want the nexus one to become a fashion icon like the iPhone did.
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As much as I give credit to Apple for what they've done with the iPhone, the iPhone has become the "razr" of phones.....the "Wal-Mart" of phones....
The bad press on this phone is silly. It takes nothing into consideration, bends around the truth, and just sounds misinformed. This phone had a soft launch, wasn't available in stores, no television ads, and wasn't really advertised by Google until the day of it's launch.
These soft launches make an impact. Word will spread and then it will pop up and explode on Verizon. I'm not even trying to defend the device, it just makes me angry seeing so much misinformed crap popping up on the web.
"But the steep $500 Google is asking for the unlocked device and the mixed reviews the Nexus One received didn't help to maximize first week sales."
Mixed reviews meaning angry fanboys? I don't get it. The thing runs Android really well, is fast as hell, looks great, has a good camera, etc. I have no idea what people were expecting. Android has been out, and this was stated to be an Android device.
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As much as I give credit to Apple for what they've done with the iPhone, the iPhone has become the "razr" of phones.....the "Wal-Mart" of phones....
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+1
everybody and their dog has an iphone. i'd rather have something few others do
To be honest, and trying to be unbiased, I think these numbers are ok for Google. Here's why I say that... given the marketing channel used here (online only sales and advertising), I suspect that Google is banking on a moderate rate of sales early on, with an increase a little later. Most people like to see and touch something prior to dropping hundreds of dollars on it. I think Google is counting on the early adopters to buy the phones, and then once we have them and others start seeing and playing with them, they will start buying. In theory, this should work the same as if the N1 would have been sold in stores, except the initial sales would be lighter and the rate of sales would be steeper after the first few weeks.
My proverbial 2 cents...
#1. It's hard for someone to drop that much cash on a phone unseen. Like others have pointed out, it's hard to sell a mobile phone without being able to "touch" it and play with it at a retail store.
#2. The N1 is one of the first handsets relatively available for purchase which has the Qualcomm Snapdragon processor. I honestly think the "hacking" community for the N1 will be similar of what the G1 (HTC Dream) has seen... In other words, the HTC Passion is basically the next great hacking platform as the HTC Dream experienced.
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Kermee
So essentially 1 in 150,000 Americans (ROUGHLY, only considering domestic sales) are packin the N1 - Sounds like a pretty elite/exclusive group if you ask me
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..."But the steep $500 Google is asking for the unlocked device and the mixed reviews the Nexus One received didn't help to maximize first week sales."
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Also, to add onto this...I don't think the price is steep at all. In fact it is cheaper than many other unlocked devices with lesser hardware. Also, it has been pointed out in many places that getting the unlocked version is cheaper than going with the subsidized version and mandatory plan.
When a phone can be purchased only from one location and one URL only gadget freaks like us know about it's existence. Some of my friends who think they are gadget freaks were shocked to see my phone over the weekend. They didn't even know about it yet. Forget the common man. Unless, the phone is sold in T-mobile, and B&M stores, it will be hard to sell like Driod.
Except for lousy T-mobile 3G inside buildings, I love this phone. But I am seriously thinking about returning just to go back to AT&T as I would like to stay with the best GSM carrier who gets most unlocked 3G phones so I can keep changing my phones every few months.
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To be honest, and trying to be unbiased, I think these numbers are ok for Google. Here's why I say that... given the marketing channel used here (online only sales and advertising), I suspect that Google is banking on a moderate rate of sales early on, with an increase a little later. Most people like to see and touch something prior to dropping hundreds of dollars on it. I think Google is counting on the early adopters to buy the phones, and then once we have them and others start seeing and playing with them, they will start buying. In theory, this should work the same as if the N1 would have been sold in stores, except the initial sales would be lighter and the rate of sales would be steeper after the first few weeks.
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I agree. This seems similar to Gmail when it was in Beta....and Gvoice. Only certain people had it and it was invite only. This seems to make a launch more manageable (less volume) and the inital adopters are the ones who typically want it the most and spread the word to others for free.
I want one... I just don't want to pay $530 to be a beta tester. I think once the 3g issues are solved we'll see alot more people pay for the phone
once Verizon and vodaphone get this phone. Sales will SKY rocket.
Instore sales
The only way for a big change in sales would be to sell the Nexus One in stores, mainstream buyers are not going to spend premium money on a handset that they can not handle first.
There are not enough early adopters and tech heads like most of us on this site to make a major impact on sales. Plus many of us are holding off to see how the 3G issue gets handled before buying.
since they didnt really air commercial for the phone and it is only available online. the numbers are pretty good.
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The HARDWARE to produce the Nexus One costs $175$. This price does NOT include licensing, manufacturing, advertising, shipping, Government Taxes, etc.
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Yeah... Putting the parts together... probably costs more than the parts themselves, including labor.
Sure, I could get the "parts" for my car too for less than a quarter of what it sells for... I wouldn't want to try to assemble it though!
Cheers,
Kermee
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The HARDWARE to produce the Nexus One costs $175$. This price does NOT include licensing, manufacturing, advertising, shipping, Government Taxes, etc.
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...not to mention R&D
I still have people ask me when its coming out when I show them mine, this phone is still very "underground"
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The HARDWARE to produce the Nexus One costs $175$. This price does NOT include licensing, manufacturing, advertising, shipping, Government Taxes, etc.
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Can you send me a link to where you found out the hardware only cost $175 for the nexus one. I would like to see how much the snapdragon proc costs, and the 512mb of ram, and all the other components in the phone, and just the cost of putting it together.
And I am not referring to licensing, manufacturing, advertising, shipping, Government Taxes, etc.
Just the hardware and the costs to put the phone together. I call bull**** on the $175 dollars.
That is how much it might cost to put together the iphone 3gs with much cheaper hardware. But the Nexus One hardware is another story.
Found this on another board and thought it was worth sharing:
http://androidheadlines.com/2010/05/verizon-dumps-nexus-one-google.html
Does not look like any more phones are going to come directly from Google, however, I am still VERY happy with my Nexus One!!
Ill reserve my judegement for an official announcement, I dont see anything that indicates google is done with phones.
darx said:
Ill reserve my judegement for an official announcement, I dont see anything that indicates google is done with phones.
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They are definitely not done with phones. They will continue to develop the software, and might just pull out of the "hardware" business and leave that to HTC.
well the only thing confirmed in the article is that Verizon did not cancel the phone. Google did.
Rest is pure speculation of the blogger. If Google wanted to quit completely... why did they launch the at&t version?
Phones for verizon and Sprint (CDMA etc) are not as straight forward as for T-Mobile and At&T (GSM). The phones have to be locked to verizon and sprint.. they are always at the mercy of the provider. GSM are standard based and all you need is SIM card to move from one service to other. You are not tied to a carrier.
Anyways... I will avoid speculating further myself...There are just way too many things going on in the corporate world.
Just be assured... Google has shares in the market... they will have to release a press release and give good reason to cancel phone business as the phone business was in black. They can't cancel any profitable business without explaining it to investors.
The nexus one is profitable to google? At&t version shouldn't be too hard since it's gsm like T-Mobile. Maybe they just decided they don't want to make a cdma phone since gsm is the standard around the world anyway.
What google wants to do can't be done with the two biggest cell phone companies because it's a closed ecosystem.
Mokurex said:
The nexus one is profitable to google? At&t version shouldn't be too hard since it's gsm like T-Mobile. Maybe they just decided they don't want to make a cdma phone since gsm is the standard around the world anyway.
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yes. Nexus One is profitable
http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/feel-goodroid-nexus-one-is-in-the-black-60k-android-devices-ac/
Not one sentence of that is from a public/official source. Google on the other hand has said publicly that they are making money, they are happy with what they were getting out of it, they plan to stay in it for the long haul. Hmmmm.
I actually like that the nexus has poor sales.... Its a great phone than no one bought (mostly due to zero marketing and lack of tech support) so it gives it a sense of exclusivity. Usually to get such exclusivity you have to buy a crappy phone or a really overpriced one. and google is not hurting financially... this was more of a science project for them
Its quite different from when I had my iphone... I remember I would be out on a dinner and when the “apple ringtone” went off, 10 people would bust out their iphones, no people contantly ask me what phone i have
Google should have put a Beta tag on google.com/phone.
Then no one would have complained about the low sales and it would be clear that this is just them getting their feet wet.
Put it this way: the next phone Google sells on their website, you can be guaranteed that sales (and off-line advertising) will be much higher.
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Google should have put a Beta tag on google.com/phone.
Then no one would have complained about the low sales and it would be clear that this is just them getting their feet wet.
Put it this way: the next phone Google sells on their website, you can be guaranteed that sales (and off-line advertising) will be much higher.
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Yep, cant wait for Nexus Two.
omg, we are too exclusive now.
no one will have brand new google phone anymore.
I went to google.com/phone and I didn't see anything about this on there. Is this news offical? I'm 24 more days away from ordering my Nexus One and I was hoping to have it delivered to my house and such. Damn, I wanted to get my phone engraved too.
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I went to google.com/phone and I didn't see anything about this on there. Is this news offical? I'm 24 more days away from ordering my Nexus One and I was hoping to have it delivered to my house and such. Damn, I wanted to get my phone engraved too.
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it's official http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=681634
I still don't see a timetable in either of those two links. It might be better if I went over to t-mobile store and picked one up.. that way I could see if "dust is under the screen" or some sorta damage on it... idk..
Looks as though they will still sell it online and in stores and eventually they will do away with online all together.
ChillRays said:
I still don't see a timetable in either of those two links. It might be better if I went over to t-mobile store and picked one up.. that way I could see if "dust is under the screen" or some sorta damage on it... idk..
Looks as though they will still sell it online and in stores and eventually they will do away with online all together.
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Yep they just "announced" it. No specific date on when they'r pulling the plug on the online store.
I said before launch...I hope its a phone that everyone wants but few have.
Few have it..it IS unique...but noone knows wth it is and just assume its some stupid iphone.
Only cel store folks have had any clue of what it is.
xManMythLegend said:
I said before launch...I hope its a phone that everyone wants but few have.
Few have it..it IS unique...but noone knows wth it is and just assume its some stupid iphone.
Only cel store folks have had any clue of what it is.
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yup, this is actually a selling point for me
People really care about having a "special" phone?
roofles.
JCopernicus said:
People really care about having a "special" phone?
roofles.
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Im assuming you wear fruit of the loom shirts , lee jeans , walmart sneakers ,no belt , a blank cap , drive a GM vehicle , and use plain black stock headphones.
Some people like to things because they are unique. Some people dont enjoy looking or using the same exact thing or way that everyone else does.
Hey, just to let you guys know if you did not already but the Google Nexus one will no longer be available from google. I know that many of us g1 users are/were thinking about this phone as the replacment for our great htc dreams. It will now sell exclusively from vodaphone. That means no chance to buy one (not second hand) in Canada (and I believe the states either).
You can see for your self at
www.google.com/phone
this sucks because I cannot buy it in Canada AND this will now drive the craigslist prices up!
This is a really strange move on Google's part, to sell exclusively in Europe.
can teh man said:
This is a really strange move on Google's part, to sell exclusively in Europe.
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I know, perhaps they are working on more deals with carriers in Canada and the US.
It's still available through Google as the ADP3.
JAguirre1231 said:
It's still available through Google as the ADP3.
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Thats for registered devs though right...
asb123 said:
Thats for registered devs though right...
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Yes.
Pretty sure you can pay the $25 registration fee and then buy the phone, I'm PRETTY sure you do not need to post an app to the market first.
do you get it at a discounted rate?
sergioiacobucci said:
do you get it at a discounted rate?
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i highly doubt they would charge you $25 and then give you a discount,
it's a shame i would have loved to see wind mobile pick up the nexus one (because it "can't" support the iphone) and then crush their competition
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i highly doubt they would charge you $25 and then give you a discount,
it's a shame i would have loved to see wind mobile pick up the nexus one (because it "can't" support the iphone) and then crush their competition
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I am just waiting for the first canadian carrier to show us that they actually CARE about bringing in the big androids under their names.
Its a huge pissoff that no carriers try to sign the big name phones.
There is no nexus one, no evo, no droid x, no galaxy s, no mtslide. no vibrant, no cliq
WTF do they want me to buy, an x10...
or a legend (they seriously act like the legend is a top notch phone)
#BLAMEWES!
Have you read what they're doing lately? To me, this is such a disrespectful move towards Google and the Android OS. Yeah, Android is open source, but you shouldn't let the carriers abuse and diminish Google and the Android name.
I will NEVER join Verizon. Google needs to make a stand for their OS, for their revenue stream, for their stance in the mobile world.
And they need to make a ****ing Nexus Two and sell it better, market it better, offer it for cheaper and sell it online. I believe that they could revive their online phone store if they had the right marketing people to do it. They need to come out with a device that does MORE than everything currently available. They need to put the "making of phones" politics down, put everything in a device that will do everything. I hate it when manufacturers only put current specs, or a little over current specs just to put out a device four months later with a couple upgrades.
Google needs to stay true to its OS, and to its phone line. I would buy every Nexus phone here on out because it has simply been the best phone i have ever owned out of like 20.
/rant over, hope you all agree with me
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Have you read what they're doing lately?
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Um... You mean about the default search? Yes, I have... But you might want to actually explain it or link to it, otherwise your post makes no sense and hence 0 replies
Google won't be mass-producing phones, and there is no "Google phone line". They offer developer phones for developers, they don't produce the phones - they outsource the production to actual phone manufacturers, they did that ever since Android, and that's what they'll do. They won't market their phones, they won't sell their phones, because they don't want to. Go search "Open Handset Alliance", read, and use some brain to understand, why it's not going to happen. Not hard, really.
Google can respond easily, and it already did. Google search in on the Market, anyone can install it. And it just needs to make easily installable VoIP app.
Tried posting a link but don't have access yet. Besides the default search they are bringing the VCast app to android in hopes to compete with the market.
Sent from my Nexus One
Welcome to android "openness".
IMO that is neither better or worse than all the manufacturer customizaton crap.
nexusdue said:
Welcome to android "openness".
IMO that is neither better or worse than all the manufacturer customizaton crap.
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As a consumer, it is YOUR responsibility to only support products and companies that serve YOUR needs. Giving money out is a way of saying "hey, I like this."
Well DON'T.
If you don't like verizon or what they do, don't give them any money. If everybody shares your opinion, then NOBODY will support verizon and they WILL go under.
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I'd rep you if i could. I too would buy every nexus here on out, by far the nicest phone ive owned and at least 90% of my friends would say the same (that 10 being iphone users )
I just moved from ATT to T-Mobile. Got one of those MyTouch 3G Slides for my mom and the bloatware on it wasn't as bad as what I saw from ATT and Verizon.
Now I read a thing on En or Giz, can't remember which, about Verizon also making its own Android App store and Google are fine with that because they say they want Android everywhere. That's their current goal. In my opinion, it's a double edged sword. On one hand, I think Google should work on a wall for its "garden." But, on the other, it'll no longer be a completely open environment.
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Google won't be mass-producing phones, and there is no "Google phone line". They offer developer phones for developers, they don't produce the phones - they outsource the production to actual phone manufacturers, they did that ever since Android, and that's what they'll do. They won't market their phones, they won't sell their phones, because they don't want to. Go search "Open Handset Alliance", read, and use some brain to understand, why it's not going to happen. Not hard, really.
Google can respond easily, and it already did. Google search in on the Market, anyone can install it. And it just needs to make easily installable VoIP app.
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Actually, I think that Google search is blocked from the market by Verizon ...
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Have you read what they're doing lately?
/rant over, hope you all agree with me
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LMAO, no, I don't agree with you.
It's a business.
I like the phones that HTC makes. I like the phones that Google calls their Developer models (G1 & N1). So, I bought both those phones.
As mentioned by lbcoder, it's YOUR MONEY.
Don't support Verizon.
The only US carrier to respect Android at all has been T-Mobile, who have added some network apps to their phones, but they are removable (i think) and don't change the actual phone experience. Other than that they've supported vanilla Android and Google search- I will stick with them for Android. AT&T and Verizon would not be able to ruin the iPhone like this because of Apple, Google need to step in and stop this disgrace to the market.
Fence
What Android needs is not a wall but a wooden fence- more positive restriction rather than totalitarianism. Like Android is socialist while Apple is fascist.
This is why it's OUR RESPONSIBILITY to root every Android™ device we come into contact with
To free our Family & Friends from the blood sucking tentacles of evil carriers like AT&T and Verizon!
OrganizedFellow said:
This is why it's OUR RESPONSIBILITY to root every Android™ device we come into contact with
To free our Family & Friends from the blood sucking tentacles of evil carriers like AT&T and Verizon!
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Is Sprint evil? lol
What you all should do, its stop buying subsidized of the carrier, even off the carrier at all. Buy off internet, third party or the like. The only way too hurt carriers and show them your not happy its to hurt their wallets
Why whinge about it then go down to carrier and buy a phone? They will keep doing it if people keep buying phones
Rellikzephyr
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RellikZephyr said:
What you all should do, its stop buying subsidized of the carrier, even off the carrier at all. Buy off internet, third party or the like. The only way too hurt carriers and show them your not happy its to hurt their wallets
Why whinge about it then go down to carrier and buy a phone? They will keep doing it if people keep buying phones
Rellikzephyr
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Only one problem with that theory!!! 90% of people buying cell phones dont want to spend 400 or more on a phone..( they want that free or spend as less as possible ) lol But I totally agree with you.. Cause I buy phones off craigslist half the time..
RellikZephyr said:
What you all should do, its stop buying subsidized of the carrier, even off the carrier at all. Buy off internet, third party or the like. The only way too hurt carriers and show them your not happy its to hurt their wallets
Why whinge about it then go down to carrier and buy a phone? They will keep doing it if people keep buying phones
Rellikzephyr
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How does that make sense if you then end up paying for the same data and voice plan? By not buying the carrier phone you are essentially GIVING the carrier $400+ for free!
They offer your $400 as a subsidy for a phone if you use their service ... if you don't take the subsidy but use their service, you only shoot yourself in the foot.
Check out this thread on the topic: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=781833
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How does that make sense if you then end up paying for the same data and voice plan? By not buying the carrier phone you are essentially GIVING the carrier $400+ for free!
They offer your $400 as a subsidy for a phone if you use their service ... if you don't take the subsidy but use their service, you only shoot yourself in the foot.
Check out this thread on the topic: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=781833
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Like I pointed out in the forum you referenced, a lot of T-Mobile plans are $10 or $20 more a month if you sign up for a 2 year contract. That means subsidized phones on contract cost an additional $240 to $480 more than just the original outlay... Do the math, and see what works for you...
My wife's phone was subsidized by $270 by T-Mo, so I signed up for the contract to get the $270 saving, then paid the $200 early termination fee (saving $70).
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I have N1 on TMobile. My wife has Droid on Verizon. I love my phone, and I like the fact I don't have any bloat-ware, but the Verizon network is way better. Her phone never drops from 3G (not to mention faster in many cases, her phone can pull up web pages faster than mine in most cases even though my phone is faster) and never drops a call. Verizon has to pay for their infrastructure somehow and trying to lock in unsuspecting customers who don't know they have search choices or other choices and use whatever in the default services provided is one of those ways...
nexusdue said:
How does that make sense if you then end up paying for the same data and voice plan? By not buying the carrier phone you are essentially GIVING the carrier $400+ for free!
They offer your $400 as a subsidy for a phone if you use their service ... if you don't take the subsidy but use their service, you only shoot yourself in the foot.
Check out this thread on the topic: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=781833
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I'm not exactly sure how your plans work in America, I'm Australian. They make their money off us here by charging slightly higher call rates on subsidized phones
But to think that a company whose aim is to make money, will give you a $500 phone absolutely free to you, and a cost to them. Thinking that way doesn't make sense
Rellikzephyr
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http://bgr.com/2014/10/30/nexus-6-sold-out-in-google-play-store/
The publication says the Nexus 6 is “huge” for Google’s future in the smartphone company, and the phone is intended to be sold mainly through carriers, rather than on Google Play.
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Interesting read if for nothing more than the comments
Dumb. Dumb.
Another great flagship phone that next to no one can buy...instead of by design due to a moronic invite system...this time due to a moronic inventory choice.
Heads are going to roll for this 3 years mess: Today Andy Rubin, co-founder and former leader of Google Inc.’s Android mobile business is leaving Google!
Not sure exact reason but....
Skripka said:
Dumb. Dumb.
Another great flagship phone that next to no one can buy...instead of by design due to a moronic invite system...this time due to a moronic inventory choice.
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How is it moronic if numbers say most will buy through a carrier. Seems like a simple choice to me.
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It could be that there is an official agreement to allow carriers to sell most of the devices. Of course, if that were the case they never should have offered a Play Store pre-sale in the first place.
Just seems like a typical BGR article. They're a rag of a site that makes up news
BGR..... I cant even bring myself to click their click bait $*¥+ any more
Benny879 said:
How is it moronic if numbers say most will buy through a carrier. Seems like a simple choice to me.
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When Google has a golden opportunity to sell a device that most carriers haven't even listed on their sites yet or formally announced plans to carry, and make money...it is moronic.
Having a flagship device that no one can buy due to your (Google's) idiotic bureaucratic decision making is how to get people who otherwise are your fan base pissed at you...see the idiocy of One+
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When Google has a golden opportunity to sell a device that most carriers haven't even listed on their sites yet or formally announced plans to carry, and make money...it is moronic.
Having a flagship device that no one can buy due to your (Google's) idiotic bureaucratic decision making is how to get people who otherwise are your fan base pissed at you...see the idiocy of One+
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Its not moronic if that was the condition carriers wanted if they were to carrier the product. I'm pretty sure the men making these decisions know more than the all of us here. Not to mention they have access to numbers and info we don't to make such a decision.
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people need to stop crying and just go into their carrier and buy it there. it's not like it isn't the same phone online.
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The phone isn't even released yet... People need to calm down. Even IF you were able to preorder it would still have been weeks before you got the phone.
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The phone isn't even released yet... People need to calm down. Even IF you were able to preorder it would still have been weeks before you got the phone.
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But if everyone calmed down, I'd have nothing to entertain myself with for the next couple of weeks...
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But if everyone calmed down, I'd have nothing to annoy xda'ers with for the next couple of weeks...
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Fixed. [emoji2]
Prod1702 said:
people need to stop crying and just go into their carrier and buy it there. it's not like it isn't the same phone online.
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Odds are it isn't.
You get some degree of bloat (albeit removable it sounds like) and what is more delayed updates.
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Odds are it isnt.
You get some degree of bloat (albeit removable it sounds like) and what is more delayed updates.
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If its the same model you could just flash the factory image so its no big deal.
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If its the same model you could just flash the factory image so its no big deal.
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tmobile nexus 4 and 5 was the same one from the play store nothing different. it still got the updates from Google. no bloat at all unless Google put it on there. I can't speak about the others. I am buying mine on the 12th from the tmo store and I am sure it will be the same one Google sends out.
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tmobile nexus 4 and 5 was the same one from the play store nothing different. it still got the updates from Google. no bloat at all unless Google put it on there. I can't speak about the others. I am buying mine on the 12th from the tmo store and I am sure it will be the same one Google sends out.
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This is one of two things I was worried about if I have to pick it up from T-Mo:
- 1) I just want to make sure the updates come from Google and not the carrier (T-Mo in this case). Especially since I will be paying all upfront for it since I am prepaid and don't want to sign up for a post paid plan. There's no sense in me having to wait for an update if I'm not tied to any sort of plan or carrier.
- 2) I would very much rather purchase directly from the Play Store if only for the GREAT 1-year hassle-free warranty coverage they have. I had to do a warranty exchange a few weeks ago on my N5, and whole procedure was absolutely painless. I had my replacement device in-hand the very next day.
So, as much as I would prefer to buy it from the Play Store, if the speculation that the majority of sales will be taking place through the carriers and the supply on the Play Store will be scarce, I would just want the T-Mo phone to be EXACTLY like the one they sell in the Play Store, with no carrier meddling/bloatware.
Google news for us in the uk then as long as there is a decent amount of stock as no carriers have listed it as exclusive to either O2, ee, Vodafone or three afaik
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Google news for us in the uk then as long as there is a decent amount of stock as no carriers have listed it as exclusive to either O2, ee, Vodafone or three afaik
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I'm really hoping the same thing doesn't happen in the U.K. with Stock issues
Hopefully its all under control by then, and they just put it on the site for sale and ship the same time as the US
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This is one of two things I was worried about if I have to pick it up from T-Mo:
- 1) I just want to make sure the updates come from Google and not the carrier (T-Mo in this case). Especially since I will be paying all upfront for it since I am prepaid and don't want to sign up for a post paid plan. There's no sense in me having to wait for an update if I'm not tied to any sort of plan or carrier.
- 2) I would very much rather purchase directly from the Play Store if only for the GREAT 1-year hassle-free warranty coverage they have. I had to do a warranty exchange a few weeks ago on my N5, and whole procedure was absolutely painless. I had my replacement device in-hand the very next day.
So, as much as I would prefer to buy it from the Play Store, if the speculation that the majority of sales will be taking place through the carriers and the supply on the Play Store will be scarce, I would just want the T-Mo phone to be EXACTLY like the one they sell in the Play Store, with no carrier meddling/bloatware.
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1.) Same freaking phone no doubt about it. Its been said a billion times. Updates from google Tmobile bloat
2.) You get next day shipping with Tmobile if you have their insurance plan which I recommend as it extends it past the 1 year google offers.
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