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I managed to build Donut source tree for Dream. But the stupid thing shows Cupcake 1.5 in the phone settings.
Any idea why?
donut is almost identical to cupcake, for now.
vishurao said:
I managed to build Donut source tree for Dream. But the stupid thing shows Cupcake 1.5 in the phone settings.
Any idea why?
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So you have flash in the browser
Yeah, there hasn't been any work done in the donut branch yet. So, at the moment, it's the same code as 1.5
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So you have flash in the browser
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Build is broken for the browser. I was getting a lot of compilation errors. Didnt look that deep into it. Just removed browser app from build structure.
you got any update for us to see or some pic
Smokuevo said:
you got any update for us to see or some pic
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First thing i saw was Settings->About Phone.
It said Firmware Version 1.5. Build number 1.5 Cupcake.
i didnt take another second to flash Jf1.5. took me 1 whole day to solve compilation issues and saw 1.5 cupcake in the end.
Words like "cupcake" and "donut" are not equivalent to version numbers like 1.5 and 2.0. They are moving targets. As noted above, if you download donut today, you will get nearly the same code as cupcake.
jashsu said:
Words like "cupcake" and "donut" are not equivalent to version numbers like 1.5 and 2.0. They are moving targets. As noted above, if you download donut today, you will get nearly the same code as cupcake.
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Then whats the fuzz about Magic using donut?
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Then whats the fuzz about Magic using donut?
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You've been reading too many rumors.
2.0 IS a far way away. The hype lately is not for it. The Hype is for the HTC Hero Port by Haykuro. The 1.5 Cupcake build has new UI and New cosmetic updates that the community would love to see.
DeadPhoenix said:
2.0 IS a far way away. The hype lately is not for it. The Hype is for the HTC Hero Port by Haykuro. The 1.5 Cupcake build has new UI and New cosmetic updates that the community would love to see.
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Not to mention FLASHPLAYER!!!
frim what i had seen of the build timeline, it apears that 2.0 may actualy get skiped, there currently working on 3.0
i didnt find a flashplayer change in the browsers tree? http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/packages/apps/Browser.git;a=summary
siriuz said:
i didnt find a flashplayer change in the browsers tree? http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/packages/apps/Browser.git;a=summary
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Cos there is none? Just because someone casually mentions "flash player" doesn't mean anything of the sort is in. In fact, id say these days a good 90% of the posted content on Dream android dev is just noise. A waste of bandwidth. A load of horse sh-t. etc etc.
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i didnt find a flashplayer change in the browsers tree? http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/packages/apps/Browser.git;a=summary
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That's because Google didn't add flashplayer, HTC did. The source tree is the open source code from Google. I'm talking about the closed source version that HTC is working on, on there own, for the HTC Hero. Improvements made by outside companies won't show up in the Google source tree.
here's' your flash player live and on a G1 like you want
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghIGj9r3_vc&feature=player_embedded
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Cos there is none? Just because someone casually mentions "flash player" doesn't mean anything of the sort is in. In fact, id say these days a good 90% of the posted content on Dream android dev is just noise. A waste of bandwidth. A load of horse sh-t. etc etc.
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It was more than a casual mention and rumors. It was stated directly by HAYKURO, hence the excitement. But don't take my word for it:
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hmph. i find it rather annoying that you guys are listening to this forum that is simply using a completely pre-alpha build i provided to give you guys feedback.
the browser they have in that build has the flash player libraries, if you run the browser test, flash is supported.
the profile (which i posted earlier) does not mention flash, thus websites doesn't believe we have flash. above that, the browser.apk is INCOMPLETE as i've been saying.
flash IS supported, and WILL work, as soon as i receive the tutorial build.
please stop posting rumors discovered on any other website. unless it is stated directly by me, Darkrift, or anyone else who is officially testing my latest roms.
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It was more than a casual mention and rumors. It was stated directly by HAYKURO, hence the excitement. But don't take my word for it:
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That flash plugin is a HTC product, not a part of the AOSP. I'm referring to rumors of flash in the AOSP, although frankly we haven't seen anything promising about the HTC flash plugin either, aside from a screenshot of the plugin directory.
http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.1.html
2.1 SDK is out. Progress.
Good news.
We'll need the source before we can take advantage of it as the 2.01 audio libs don't work at all... And for anyone wondering, livewallpapers runs extremely slow and is not worth using yet.
Isn't the source available on AOSP? I thought I saw it the other day when picking through the tree?
Audio works I'm running it right now. It's pretty much the same as 2.0.1 with the addition of livewallpapers. The new launcher isn't included. Most likely because the emulator can't handle the graphics.
http://cid-26b659bcabad8994.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/.Public/2.1-SDK-Vogue.zip It's just a generic sdk build with no Google apps. Livewalls works but is slow like mssmision said. Give me a couple and I'll see what I can add.
2.1 wow! ...a while ago i made the switch from sprint to vzw & i have been off of my vogue for some time, but am now back to it -i figured out how to get it running on vzw I am looking forward to playing with all the new changes since i have been away!!
Do you think 2.1 will ever become usable on our vogues? or just bits & pieces like past upgrades?? i.e. especially google gps beta -i used that with the droid and it is incredible!
it's neat to see the familiar faces are still around this forum
btw, what do you guys think is the fastest/most stable version right now for me to use? (been away since november!!!)
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Audio works I'm running it right now. It's pretty much the same as 2.0.1 with the addition of livewallpapers. The new launcher isn't included. Most likely because the emulator can't handle the graphics.
http://cid-26b659bcabad8994.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/.Public/2.1-SDK-Vogue.zip It's just a generic sdk build with no Google apps. Livewalls works but is slow like mssmision said. Give me a couple and I'll see what I can add.
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That sucks about the launcher... How do we go about getting that? And is the little card preview thing for the home pages included?
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That sucks about the launcher... How do we go about getting that? And is the little card preview thing for the home pages included?
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Nope just the livewallpaper.
adeyo said:
2.1 wow! ...a while ago i made the switch from sprint to vzw & i have been off of my vogue for some time, but am now back to it -i figured out how to get it running on vzw I am looking forward to playing with all the new changes since i have been away!!
Do you think 2.1 will ever become usable on our vogues? or just bits & pieces like past upgrades?? i.e. especially google gps beta -i used that with the droid and it is incredible!
it's neat to see the familiar faces are still around this forum
btw, what do you guys think is the fastest/most stable version right now for me to use? (been away since november!!!)
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you could try the new improved tattoo build or any of the donut builds. they should have the new google maps with navigation. if not you can update maps from market. there is also a 2.0.1 build which is almost the same as 2.1. google has already stated that the 2.1 sdk only has minor api changes.
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Nope just the livewallpaper.
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That's a shame. There should be a Nexus dump the launcher could be pulled from? Think the graphics involved would slow us down too much?
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That's a shame. There should be a Nexus dump the launcher could be pulled from? Think the graphics involved would slow us down too much?
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I had the nexus launcher running on 2.0.1 but it's slow and crashes way to much for normal use.
as well the new gallery3d has issues because of gl stuff.. It works, it's slow, and thumbs don't always display.
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you could try the new improved tattoo build or any of the donut builds. they should have the new google maps with navigation. if not you can update maps from market. there is also a 2.0.1 build which is almost the same as 2.1. google has already stated that the 2.1 sdk only has minor api changes.
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Thanks Zen! ...i didn't realize there was a 2.0.1 functioning build out. I don't really care about the minor api changes. I will go do some digging and try out that build! it's fun to be back
AOSP repo is pulling down master/eclair right now, I'm watching it update platform/packages/wallpapers/magicsmoke,musicvisualization, etc.
I'm not entirely sure how to do so, but can't we compile this as a build for Vogue?
Well i just booted the nexus dump by replacing system/lib with the one in the sdk and then adding back some missing libs. Not quite usable about as good as Drizzys Droid 2.1.
Just out of curiosity, can you boot the nexus dump @ 240x320?
Shidell said:
Just out of curiosity, can you boot the nexus dump @ 240x320?
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I would like to know this too.
Shidell said:
Just out of curiosity, can you boot the nexus dump @ 240x320?
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yes you can
Wow, interesting.
I've got the Eclair branch (or what I believe to be the Eclair branch, it's labeled as such) from AOSP. I'm building it right now.
I'm optimistic that a clean build from AOSP will run better than the ripped/converted Nexus dump, but as I've never done this before, it's just speculation.
Zen, any advice on setting this up to run natively on the Vogue post-build? Anything I can package/upload for you to play with that might help?
Realistically, what do we have to do to get OpenGL working on Eclair/Flan? Will the G1 update apply to our devices? Having no thumbnails is a real pain, in addition to the occasionally jerky animation.
Well... listen to my logic.
Running Cyanogen Beta3 with HiGHMEM Kernel, JIT turned on most of the time.
I have multi-touch in the browser, its not perfect but it works.
If I install the OTA I lose the memory, speed, and cyanogen features... my multitouch improves and 3G improves... but is that worth losing the speed and mem, etc....?
I'm not really sure so I think I'm going to wait until the release of a Cyanogenmod with these updates included.
Any opinons?
I am on CM 5.0 Beta 4 with the new radio (I only get Edge where I live anyways, so technically I never had a 3G problem) multi touch in maps and the gallery, cyan's MT for the browser (I still never use it) along with all the extra RAM. Also, I have the polar clock live wallpapers working (the dynamic ones that didn't work before). I see no reason to lose all that for ummmmm better MT in the browser when I don't use my current MT in the browser.
It really makes me laugh at how worked up people are getting over it. I mean it's nice, but its nothing amazing to me.
When does the OTA update hit anyway? My stock N1 hasn't gotten an update
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When does the OTA update hit anyway? My stock N1 hasn't gotten an update
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=627533
Now, if you want it
david1171 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=627533
Now, if you want it
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Wow that was fast..
is this the same update that google pushes through? I'm not going to install an old or bugged rom or anything?
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Wow that was fast..
is this the same update that google pushes through? I'm not going to install an old or bugged rom or anything?
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It appears to be the one that Google pushed through. Should be just like manually updating a G1 to cupcake or donut lol.
You wouldn't be able to flash it onto your phone if it wasn't signed with release keys by google/htc anyways.
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It appears to be the one that Google pushed through. Should be just like manually updating a G1 to cupcake or donut lol.
You wouldn't be able to flash it onto your phone if it wasn't signed with release keys by google/htc anyways.
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Ithought those 'signed release keys' were forge-able?
One last question:
does this have the new kernel ? from .29 to .3x?
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I am on CM 5.0 Beta 4 with the new radio (I only get Edge where I live anyways, so technically I never had a 3G problem) multi touch in maps and the gallery, cyan's MT for the browser (I still never use it) along with all the extra RAM. Also, I have the polar clock live wallpapers working (the dynamic ones that didn't work before). I see no reason to lose all that for ummmmm better MT in the browser when I don't use my current MT in the browser.
It really makes me laugh at how worked up people are getting over it. I mean it's nice, but its nothing amazing to me.
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How did you get MT in Maps and Gallery without OTA? ...or am I misunderstanding you. I have cyan's MT in the browser but that's the extent of my mutli-touch happiness.
Currently Using CyanogenMod 5 Beta 4. I'm just gonna wait till Cyan updates his mod multi-touch isn't a big deal for me. I didn't flash emothers to test it out though but then went back to Cyan because his mod is better.
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Ithought those 'signed release keys' were forge-able?
One last question:
does this have the new kernel ? from .29 to .3x?
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If they were then a lot of devices would have root very fast. To my knowledge, no one has forged the release keys. We can sign things with test keys and flash them through a recovery that supports flashing .zips that only have been signed with test keys. Also, no, this does not have the new kernel.
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How did you get MT in Maps and Gallery without OTA? ...or am I misunderstanding you. I have cyan's MT in the browser but that's the extent of my mutli-touch happiness.
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Google ERE27 add on (from cyan's thread)
http://www.mediafire.com/file/tmztgbyimyz/gapps-passion-ERE27-signed.zip
Multi-Touch Gallery3D.apk (again from cyan's thread)
http://n0rp.chemlab.org/android/nexus/testing/Gallery3D.apk
Flash the first. Push the second to /system/app/Gallery3D.apk or install with a file manager.
That's how I got my MT
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Well... listen to my logic.
Running Cyanogen Beta3 with HiGHMEM Kernel, JIT turned on most of the time.
I have multi-touch in the browser, its not perfect but it works.
If I install the OTA I lose the memory, speed, and cyanogen features... my multitouch improves and 3G improves... but is that worth losing the speed and mem, etc....?
I'm not really sure so I think I'm going to wait until the release of a Cyanogenmod with these updates included.
Any opinons?
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Multitouch in maps, gallery too ... you can wait or you can have everything (including memory fix , excluding JIT)
http://android.modaco.com/content/g...d-and-unrooted-optional-radio-optional-himem/
personally I've updated because you can always add Cyanogen's stuff later.
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ota vs Cyanogen Beta HiGHMEM Kernel
sticking with Cyanogen Beta4 with HiGHMEM Kernel(Went back after trying ota)
tried the ota and a couple of things went wrong, like no wifi
and sluggish performance
i will wait
thanks
M3manny
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sticking with Cyanogen Beta4 with HiGHMEM Kernel(Went back after trying ota)
tried the ota and a couple of things went wrong, like no wifi
and sluggish performance
i will wait
thanks
M3manny
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Nothing to do with the OTA update, my wifi works fine, and performance is just as good.
Thanks goes out to jcase, my freenode friend, and as always, the people at irc.thefuzz4.net/#DroidEris.
Info @ http://www.zifnab06.net/2010/04/working-lwp-for-droid-eris-and-possibly-other-devices/
Normal license stuff:
This release is covered by the anti phandroid license. This means, you MUST include this license for all derivatives of this work. This work is and all direvitives are NOT to be released on phandroid.com, androidforums.com, engadget.com OR any sister sites. Stop not crediting us for our work. Stop using our videos/pictures without even saying hi. We are not responsible for anything this patch does. If it bricks you phone, its you fault.
Nice!!1
Thanks for the hard work, best thing to come to Droid Eris since rooting!
Very cool.
I didn't see it mentioned, does this work on both 1.5 and 2.1 rooted roms?
2.1 root is required for this patch.
If you had previous live wallpapers installed, does installing this on top still work OK? I just did this exact scenario and I can't get the new LW patch you guys just made to run smoothly at all.
I'm thinking a fresh ROM, sense remover, then use this patch for best results?
It should work on any rom. It removes old versions, if active. Are you using sense or Nexus Home?
Nexus home. I dunno, none of the wallpapers are running well for me. I'll have to mess with it more later I guess.
This patch with jamezelle sprint rom makes LWP's work good in sense! The sprint rom already had all of these features (openGL wallpapers ran faster though) but when returning from sleep they would disappear. This patch has seemed to fix that issue in sence, but did slow them down, choppyness.
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This patch with jamezelle sprint rom makes LWP's work good in sense! The sprint rom already had all of these features (openGL wallpapers ran faster though) but when returning from sleep they would disappear. This patch has seemed to fix that issue in sence, but did slow them down, choppyness.
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Our phones are not made for this, so its gunna slow stuff down. We need kernel source for Over clocking. I figuring 700mhz would be awful nice
MAHALO!!!
THANKS YOU!!
Dangraef said:
This patch with jamezelle sprint rom makes LWP's work good in sense! The sprint rom already had all of these features (openGL wallpapers ran faster though) but when returning from sleep they would disappear. This patch has seemed to fix that issue in sence, but did slow them down, choppyness.
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same goes for me ,, im using the sprint rom and it fixed the wallpaperss disappearing great work
Glad you guys are liking it. It will cause issues with the animated weather.
can this be used in a stock 2.1? no root?
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can this be used in a stock 2.1? no root?
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its posted in the first post by the dev. Read!
Thanks jcase. This will prob make me switch to a senseless ROM now. you da man.
Is this sipposed to fix the 3d gallery? I loaded the zip and noticed first off the it removes the htc lockscreen, might be worth mentioning... I have tried the 3d gallery on both sense and the nexus launcher. It DOES rotate without problem and it does work sort of. when it displays my list of pictures I only see them briefly and then they get transparent and blend in to the background until nothing is visable. If I click on a spot it will load a picture or an album but I can't see what I'm clicking on. Im using Ivans latest rom btw.
Thanks devs for all your hard work!!
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Is this sipposed to fix the 3d gallery? I loaded the zip and noticed first off the it removes the htc lockscreen, might be worth mentioning... I have tried the 3d gallery on both sense and the nexus launcher. It DOES rotate without problem and it does work sort of. when it displays my list of pictures I only see them briefly and then they get transparent and blend in to the background until nothing is visable. If I click on a spot it will load a picture or an album but I can't see what I'm clicking on. Im using Ivans latest rom btw.
Thanks devs for all your hard work!!
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It doesn't support Gallery3D fully, and I no longer have a phone to do dev work on. The lockscreen issue is a mistake in my update script, will be fixed shortly.
delete SYSTEM:app/HtcLockScreen.odex <- wasnt suppose to be there!
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It doesn't support Gallery3D fully, and I no longer have a phone to do dev work on. The lockscreen issue is a mistake in my update script, will be fixed shortly.
delete SYSTEM:app/HtcLockScreen.odex <- wasnt suppose to be there!
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Cool, thanks for the quick reply. Sucks that your phone is broken, looks like you and jamezelle wont be developin for us much longer. I have never rooted a phone before but you guys make this stuff so easy to do, I have never had so much fun with a phone in my life. Thanks for your hard work jcase!
You guys might see one last big one from me, time will tell.
jcase
hoping this last big one is the other thing you wanted to do besides this last patch....Good luck
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You guys might see one last big one from me, time will tell.
jcase
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Dont know how many more "wads" I can blow today with all this sickness you giving us. I cant wait til 4PM to get home and go senseless and truly use this.
It seems to me thanks to the leak, we have everything an official release would have, except the bugs . Why is everyone anticipating it so much?
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It seems to me thanks to the leak, we have everything an official release would have, except the bugs . Why is everyone anticipating it so much?
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1. fresh kitchen.
2. kernel source code for the .29 kernel.
3.??
I think it is more for the code guys, because once they release officially then leagally HTC has to release the source (which they probably wont without pestering again) but that will allow the code monkeys (no offence you guys are awesome) to work their magic and get things really improved.
That is a very good question. I am completely happy with what I have now. Fresh 2.0d is, IMO, as good as it gets.
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What changes for us?
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We can start reading 5 new FroYo threads per day!
Thank you. That makes perfect sense. I had forgotten about the Kernel being OSS.
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kernel source code for the .29 kernel
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2.1 + Overclock + Working Camera = yes
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2.1 + Overclock + Working Camera = yes
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That
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All I care about is Fresh 2.1!
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That is a very good question. I am completely happy with what I have now. Fresh 2.0d is, IMO, as good as it gets.
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I agree
TheBiles said:
All I care about is Fresh 2.1!
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!!!
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It seems to me thanks to the leak, we have everything an official release would have, except the bugs . Why is everyone anticipating it so much?
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Some of you guys are completely delusional. The official release is going to fix an enormous number of bugs that currently exist in all 2.1-leak-based roms.
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Some of you guys are completely delusional. The official release is going to fix an enormous number of bugs that currently exist in all 2.1-leak-based roms.
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And most likely create more bugs than it fixes.....just as the November MR did.
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Some of you guys are completely delusional. The official release is going to fix an enormous number of bugs that currently exist in all 2.1-leak-based roms.
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im not sure what bugs you are refering to. I have 0 problems with my phone (except when I mess with stuff)
First the OFFICIAL version shouldn't have us running back and forth to FIX little things.
Loading a ROM after the release should be as smooth as say....Fresh 1.1
I haven't had to FIX anything in that ROM and everything works.
My 2 cents is that being able to find the thread you want with the ROM dev you like and then load that ROM would be sweet.
But sifting thru' 200 plus pages and being asked to fix the ROM is weird for me.
Seems the dev would ADD the fix and re-release?.....no?
But like everyone else, I'm waiting for the OFFICIAL release before jumping into making assorted changes which we ALL might have to re-change when the release comes about.
Thanks,
Bubba.
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First the OFFICIAL version shouldn't have us running back and forth to FIX little things.
Loading a ROM after the release should be as smooth as say....Fresh 1.1
I haven't had to FIX anything in that ROM and everything works.
My 2 cents is that being able to find the thread you want with the ROM dev you like and then load that ROM would be sweet.
But sifting thru' 200 plus pages and being asked to fix the ROM is weird for me.
Seems the dev would ADD the fix and re-release?.....no?
But like everyone else, I'm waiting for the OFFICIAL release before jumping into making assorted changes which we ALL might have to re-change when the release comes about.
Thanks,
Bubba.
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The forums are called 'XDA DEVELOPERS'. If you (not you specifically but in general) are going to ***** and whine because the ROMs you're using aren't 100% flawless...you're in the wrong place. Sit down shut up and wait for the official release. These ROMs aren't perfect, nor are they intended to be...but by and large they're a hell of a lot better than the crap Sprint has consistently put out (both Android and WinMo).
As for 'fixing huge amount of bugs'....umm..I doubt it. I doubt Sprint would even be aware of most of them were it not for developers and testers like those here on XDA.
With the update to 2.1, Hero users will be able to activate an ancient supernatural power known as Voltron. We can either use it to better humanity...or destroy society.... I call dibs on the head.
With the update to 2.1, Hero users will be able to activate an ancient supernatural power known as Voltron. We can either use it to better humanity...or destroy society.... I call dibs on the head.
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lol I think apple is gonna do that. lol
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I wouldn't look for that .29 kernel source to be available when the office 2.1 drops. HTC's gonna **** around for a while before giving that up.
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2. kernel source code for the .29 kernel.
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Considering how long it took to get the source code for the .27 kernel, don't count on it.
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First the OFFICIAL version shouldn't have us running back and forth to FIX little things.
Loading a ROM after the release should be as smooth as say....Fresh 1.1
I haven't had to FIX anything in that ROM and everything works.
My 2 cents is that being able to find the thread you want with the ROM dev you like and then load that ROM would be sweet.
But sifting thru' 200 plus pages and being asked to fix the ROM is weird for me.
Seems the dev would ADD the fix and re-release?.....no?
But like everyone else, I'm waiting for the OFFICIAL release before jumping into making assorted changes which we ALL might have to re-change when the release comes about.
Thanks,
Bubba.
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well i never really had any problems since i rooted and installed the roms that ive gotten from xda (damage 2.0r3 and now 2.07.2) to be honest they have been much more bug free than the stock rom 1.56 that i origionally had. so im sticking with xda and to go back and never be able to root again.... well thats scarry