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Microsoft Voice Command 1.6 - ISSUES!

I just got the Microsoft Voice Command 1.6 (refer to as VC from here on) this morning and so far it has been quite disappointing.
I am using it on a Cingular 8525 with a Sony Ericsson HBH-GV435 headset (both are BT 2.0).
Right after the installation I noticed that the talk button on the headset did not trigger the VC so I did a power cycling.
After the power cycling the button will now trigger the VC as if I pushed the VC button on the phone but the problem is that it is not picking up my voice command via the headset but it is still listening from the phone's mic.
Any thoughts on this?

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skygear said:
did you try to go under your d\settingd to chsnge the buttons? i think you have to reg edit the files for ear pice mic
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I didn't know that.....I'm going to try and search for it. Can you maybe post a linky for the info on how to do that?
thx!

Version 1.6 at present time DOES NOT WORK properly with the TyTN. You should go back to V1.5 and wait for a patch...

goestoeleven said:
Version 1.6 at present time DOES NOT WORK properly with the TyTN. You should go back to V1.5 and wait for a patch...
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I see. Thanks for the info. Hope the patch will be available soon!

What is the probelm with the ver 1.6 and the TyTn? Is it just the TyTN rom or does it not function with the JasJam or the 8525 either?
Dp you guys know this by experience or is it posted somewhere?
PocketPCThoughts list the 8525 as a "compatible device".

The problem will affect all Hermes devices, and it will probably require a patch / a new dll and/or a registry hack to make things work properly. It should work, but it doesn't, and this goes to show you what a poor job of testing was done before product release.
If the single biggest additional feature/function (ie, bluetooth support) doesn't work properly, why was it shipped?

goestoeleven said:
The problem will affect all Hermes devices, and it will probably require a patch / a new dll and/or a registry hack to make things work properly. It should work, but it doesn't, and this goes to show you what a poor job of testing was done before product release.
If the single biggest additional feature/function (ie, bluetooth support) doesn't work properly, why was it shipped?
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Come on folks... This is MS we are talking about...
If it had been a software package with a little penguin or a devil on it we would be just fine

mrderby said:
Come on folks... This is MS we are talking about...
If it had been a software package with a little penguin or a devil on it we would be just fine
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Or maybe we should start to look at HTC... Their implementation of the whole bluetooth "feature" is crap too... AD2P anybody? well let's hack the crap out of the register, and than try to be happy with songs that hickup every 30 secs or so... neah great!

First: Hermes generally does not work with BT2.0, I guess, especially my MDAvario2 does not...
I'm using a BT Headset HBH608, which was perfectly working with every phone I've ever tried...
Second: VC1.6 could not be installed on Vario2' and Hermes Devices at all, getting an error message...
VC1.5 (engl.) works, not perfect, but it usually works...

MickKnatterton said:
First: Hermes generally does not work with BT2.0, I guess, especially my MDAvario2 does not...
I'm using a BT Headset HBH608, which was perfectly working with every phone I've ever tried...
Second: VC1.6 could not be installed on Vario2' and Hermes Devices at all, getting an error message...
VC1.5 (engl.) works, not perfect, but it usually works...
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What do you mean it cant be installed. I have it installed on a TyTn and it works perfectly. I am not using a BT headset, so cant comment on that.

I've got v1.6 on an 8525 and it seems to working fine.
what exactly are the problems others are having with Hermes devices?

@DigitalFX: Hermes does support Bluetooth 2.0, but not Enhanced Data Rate.
@JCrompton: MSVC 1.6 does not route sounds/commands properly through a Bluetooth headset on the Hermes. You may be able to initiate a call with your headset button, but you'll be using the mic/speaker on the Hermes to complete it. Also, sounds/announcements are not working as advertised. HTC and M$ are working on a patch.

VC 1.6 works fine on my MDA with Motorola BT headset.

Mark (NL) said:
Or maybe we should start to look at HTC... Their implementation of the whole bluetooth "feature" is crap too... AD2P anybody? well let's hack the crap out of the register, and than try to be happy with songs that hickup every 30 secs or so... neah great!
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Seriously, why dind't any OEM use the Widcomm stack instead of the crappy MS one ?!
If only there was a way to hack the Widcomm stack and replace the MS one like they did with the Dell axims..
Adi

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@DigitalFX: Hermes does support Bluetooth 2.0, but not Enhanced Data Rate.
@JCrompton: MSVC 1.6 does not route sounds/commands properly through a Bluetooth headset on the Hermes. You may be able to initiate a call with your headset button, but you'll be using the mic/speaker on the Hermes to complete it. Also, sounds/announcements are not working as advertised. HTC and M$ are working on a patch.
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Has anyone tried this... (look for the cab)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=283412&page=5

My 8525 works fine with 1.6 and my SE662 BT headset. Calls can be activated over BT using headset button, and audio routes to my headset throughout my call.

URPREY said:
My 8525 works fine with 1.6 and my SE662 BT headset. Calls can be activated over BT using headset button, and audio routes to my headset throughout my call.
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Wow! Have you done any registry hacks? I'd love to see what your Voice Command keys look like....
TIA,
Richard

I have an 8525 also, and 1.6 works as MS says it does.
The headset button activates voice command, the Beep occurs on the 8525, and the mike on the 8525 listens for input. If I say, Dial ... or Call... then the call works fine on the BT headset like expected.
I know a patch is in the works to fix this issue, and when they do, 1.6 is superior to 1.5 for voice interpretation.
However, for now, I have 1.5 working perfectly fine. All features work, and all I had to do was enter/change 2 registry keys (only 1 was necessary)

xcsdm said:
I have an 8525 also, and 1.6 works as MS says it does.
The headset button activates voice command, the Beep occurs on the 8525, and the mike on the 8525 listens for input. If I say, Dial ... or Call... then the call works fine on the BT headset like expected.
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So how loud do you have to shout for the mike on the 8525 to hear you if the phone is in the next room, or in your purse or you're driving? It might be the way MS intended it to work, but I doubt it.
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I can't believe that MS wouldn't have caught this problem during beta testing. Speaks volumes (pun intended) for the current state of software development and testing at MS. Anyone know if MS Reader works with WM5 yet? How about full multi-user support for ActiveSync? Win XP has been around for years now with this funtionality. And while I am on my rant, how about SP3 for Win XP? Currently we would have to download and install over 70 (!) critical patches to SP2 just to get our computers to the dynamic state they are at today. Come on MS, enough is enough. Get your s#!* together!!
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John

WM6 bluetooth voice dial

Does the MS Voicedial work through bluetooth? Probably not, since it is a hardware issue...?

it does not, I have tried everything i could think of with my i780 with no results.

cryptox said:
it does not, I have tried everything i could think of with my i780 with no results.
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Works on my P3600i......all I do is press the button on my headset and the HTC Voice Commander prompt comes up....say the name I want and it dials.....all too easy.

Hi,
this might be true only half-way. I believe the PDA-mic is used, and not the headset one. That works in a quit environment, but if you are outside and the phone is in your pocket, no chance.
Can you confirm this?
IsiT_de...

IsiT_de said:
Hi,
this might be true only half-way. I believe the PDA-mic is used, and not the headset one. That works in a quit environment, but if you are outside and the phone is in your pocket, no chance.
Can you confirm this?
IsiT_de...
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Mine works in my pocket....in the car etc......sorry...it just works.

Bluetooth BMW and HTC HD2

Hi
I have a BMW X5 and a HTC HD2 with the newest ROM. When I enter the car, HD2 is recognised automatically by the car and I can place phonecalls dialing from my HD2. The only thing that does not work is that BMW tries to upload my phonebook from the phone but it does not get it. BMW says "please wait" - forever.
Before I flashed the ROM, this worked. Anyone has any ideas? I would even pay for someone in Zurich who comes and fixes this. One thing I could do of course is to downgrade my ROM again. But before I do this, I want to explore any other options.
Thanks a lot!
PS: jetwaremobile.com definately does NOT work on HD2

I have exactly the same issue. The HTC HD2 works ok for calls etc but the phone book upload is "please wait" forever. Very annoying. I have the standard up to date ROM and BMW X5 2009 model. Any help would be great.
Thanks
mrickenbach said:
Hi
I have a BMW X5 and a HTC HD2 with the newest ROM. When I enter the car, HD2 is recognised automatically by the car and I can place phonecalls dialing from my HD2. The only thing that does not work is that BMW tries to upload my phonebook from the phone but it does not get it. BMW says "please wait" - forever.
Before I flashed the ROM, this worked. Anyone has any ideas? I would even pay for someone in Zurich who comes and fixes this. One thing I could do of course is to downgrade my ROM again. But before I do this, I want to explore any other options.
Thanks a lot!
PS: jetwaremobile.com definately does NOT work on HD2
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So any ideas? Now we are already two you can make happy! Thanks

Hey..
I don't have a BMW neither a bluetooth radio BUT i somewhere read in this forum, that there is a fix, to let the hd2 be recognized as normal phone
I know I'm not that much help , but I hope u can find the thread here good luck =)

HD2_Noob said:
Hey..
I don't have a BMW neither a bluetooth radio BUT i somewhere read in this forum, that there is a fix, to let the hd2 be recognized as normal phone
I know I'm not that much help , but I hope u can find the thread here good luck =)
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I have a 2008 BMW, and I did experience this the first time..I sat there waiting for a few mins adn then got bored...but after I had turned the car off, been away and come back..it transferred straightaway.
Funnily enough, when I had my iphone (yes..sorry) I had the little image of the phone next to the BT signal on the display. I don't get this straight away with the HD2, but it always eventually appears..and then stays there until I hard reset my phone and do a ROM upgrade and then start the pairing again..where I just get the BT signal...then randomly..a few weeks later, the phone image appears again....very odd

Works fine here with a BMW 5x from 2008.. Using miris 6.5.x ROM

Funnily enough, when I had my iphone (yes..sorry) I had the little image of the phone next to the BT signal on the display. I don't get this straight away with the HD2, but it always eventually appears..and then stays there until I hard reset my phone and do a ROM upgrade and then start the pairing again..where I just get the BT signal...then randomly..a few weeks later, the phone image appears again....very odd
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Hi, I also have a 2008 BMW (E93) and I do see the phone logo. It also syncs about 250 of my >3000 contacts. With my TyTN2 I used "Jetware Mobile" to sync just one dedicated category. But that doesn't work anymore with MinMo 6.5

schrej said:
Hi, I also have a 2008 BMW (E93) and I do see the phone logo. It also syncs about 250 of my >3000 contacts. With my TyTN2 I used "Jetware Mobile" to sync just one dedicated category. But that doesn't work anymore with MinMo 6.5
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oh yes it does!
in fact, this is the only thing that works in Jetware with WM 6.5 - nothing else works in my case
i have a 2005 X5

bmw
i have a 2006 bmw X5 and the phone book works perfect so does everything else very happy )

zipolly said:
i have a 2006 bmw X5 and the phone book works perfect so does everything else very happy )
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Which ROM do you use 1.66? or earlier? With my earlier ROM I had no problems, but since I upgraded to 1.66 (German), the phonebook does not transfer...

Bluetooth auto control problem
I can’t control my bluetooth (on/off) when using Inesoft phone profiles/controls; I have also tried other programs but no success(in another program the window of bluetooth was disabled); through all programs, I could control phone, WIFI, and gprs but not the Bluetooth. The only way to turn the Bluetooth on/ off is the Comm Manager (Manually); could anyone help please. Thanks

2006 bmw
I use the latest 1.66 wwe rom off t he htc website with no problems at all .

zipolly said:
I use the latest 1.66 wwe rom off t he htc website with no problems at all .
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thank you, I am glad it worked for you...you must have a newer generation ULF than me then.
Is your phone HD2? mine is Toshiba TG01..I have managed to make it work 50/50 of the times, but I do not know WHAT CHANGES are between it working and not working...it is very frustating to know (and experience it working) that it can/should work, but not being able to

I have a new HTC Mini HD and have the same problems with my 2009 BMW 3. BT Headset function works just fine, but iDrive keeps trying to sync the telephone book, unsuccesfull. Instead, my phone's battery gets drained. Anyone any sollutions?

Unfortunately I don't have an answer for your question, but it sounds like it might have something to do with the bluetooth stack used for that ROM/Radio not being recognized by the car. Perhaps the layer that deals with data transfer is removed. Sorry I can't be of more help here.
What I can do to help is to offer a warning. I am a former BMW Client Advisor, and have been told many, many times by service technicians that using phones which are not specifically approved by BMW can affect your car's ECU (brain) and if it needs to be repaired or replaced, it will not be covered under warranty. That could be just nonsense to force you into buying only phones which BMW has tested (or vendors have paid for a marketing fee), or it might be spot on, in which case you run a pretty big risk.
Hope this helps.

OK, problem solved. BMW updated my carsoftware to its newest version last week and now my HD2 works perfectly with my car (again). I can make calls AND my phonebook is synced as well.
Hint1: Try if your phonebook sync problem exists with the SIM contacts as well as with the phone contacts
Hint 2: worldwideweb.bmw.com/com/de/owners/navigation/bluetooth/compatibility_check_intro.html

a_petrov303 said:
oh yes it does!
in fact, this is the only thing that works in Jetware with WM 6.5 - nothing else works in my case
i have a 2005 X5
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zipolly said:
i have a 2006 bmw X5 and the phone book works perfect so does everything else very happy )
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Hi All,
I have a BMW X5 2005 model. I can pair the phone OK but it constantly disconnects and reconnects once the transfer of the phonebook occurs. The phonebook transfers always start from scratch when this happens and nothing gets loaded to the car's phonebook.
If a call comes in, or if I make a call while it is connected (like within 5 seconds) the phone stays connected for the duration of the call.
I have tried all the Regisrty tweaks and none change the behaviour.
I also read it is because the HD2 uses Widcomm BT stack and not the MS BT Stack.
Zippolly and a_petrov303 and all those that have it working, can you please tell me which Rom you are using? I am using the latest Energy's 6.5.x rom. i noticed someone mentioned Miri's 6.5.x Rom works.
Thanks,
Rob

I have a 07 E60. The HD2 pairs fine, synchs contacts fine, but the sound quality is so bad it's not useable. Of course bmw says it's not a compatible phone, but I think there is a problem with the car as my Diamond won't find it, even though it is supposed to be supported

its mainly due to the car bluetooth, BMW etc don't make the car kit mostly siemens do and they are slow on the uptake of doing updates.

anybody found a snap-in for the hd2 yet?
I have a 7-series F01 and it is really annoying to have to deal with that usb cable...
Ontopic
I had the BT problem too, deleting the profile and repairing the phone did the trick for me...

Bluetooth to car?

Im new to the android system and am having difficulties pairing the Bluetooth of the X10 to my car system (this worked a dream with the X1). I know there are issues with the Bluetooth android 1.6 version but the spec of the phone included A2dp. Any ideas why the car can not pick up the phone were as phones 2-3 yrs older can?

i have bluetooth connection with x10 and carradio. turn on bluetooth, in setting you have turn on the option discovable ... blablabla ... and than search for the radio... and make connection ...
Sent from my X10i using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk

Cheers for the reply. I managed to sort the issue out. Had to unpair the previous handset from the car. X10 works a dream now ;-)

And in synching your phone to the car all of your contacts get synched as well?
On my BMW BT phone-kit I only get about half of my approx. 600 phone contacts moved over. Anyone know what could be the problem here? The exact same contacts were always 100% glitch-free when synching with my old Rhodium (WM TP2) phone...?
Dialing, answering, speaking to the contacts I actually have in the car works fine, but... there are so many missing!
Cheers/M

In my car the X10 BT stops working after 1 minute according to the issues mentionned here (http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=3960#makechanges)
It's a pity

McHan said:
And in synching your phone to the car all of your contacts get synched as well?
On my BMW BT phone-kit I only get about half of my approx. 600 phone contacts moved over. Anyone know what could be the problem here? The exact same contacts were always 100% glitch-free when synching with my old Rhodium (WM TP2) phone...?
Dialing, answering, speaking to the contacts I actually have in the car works fine, but... there are so many missing!
Cheers/M
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I have some contacts missing also.. From names S-Z.. I have no idea why this is .. When i manually dial the number from the car dial the number and name gets recognized. Very strange indeed Must be a limit on how many numbers are available to sync?

now i realize it's android's problem not x10's problem
that's a good thing to know....
cuz my x1 worked fine, and x10 borke my heart while it cant link to my car properly.....
now I'll just wait for the fix
was thinking to return it. lol now it seems now it's not nessecry =D

sinox124 said:
now i realize it's android's problem not x10's problem
that's a good thing to know....
cuz my x1 worked fine, and x10 borke my heart while it cant link to my car properly.....
now I'll just wait for the fix
was thinking to return it. lol now it seems now it's not nessecry =D
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yea same her with the MW600 headset but at long its a software problem it can be fixt ..hope se will wix it soon (or in september with the 2.x android update where i also wonder if they add dualtouche support or not )

[Q] Is Bluetooth Working?

I Tried Twice To Connect via Bluetooth with both my laptop and another phone but It Always says service not supported and I couldn't Receive any files through Bluetooth, although it pairs fine.
any Ideas?
Thanx in advance

You can only pair with a headset with WP7 as of now. It won't pair with computers and other mobile devices, but I'm sure someone is working on getting it to work.
And this is for all WP7 devices right now not just HD2.

Naes said:
You can only pair with a headset with WP7 as of now. It won't pair with computers and other mobile devices, but I'm sure someone is working on getting it to work.
And this is for all WP7 devices right now not just HD2.
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Oh I get it thaaanx
These Little things will make me hate WP7
I wonder why they prevent something like this in the first place

Well its working for me then?
Russ

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Well its working for me then?
Russ
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Niceee
R u able to send and receive files via Bluetooth ??

No it error's at OBEX file needed, but maybe that will be updated later? But my bluetooth ear piece works fine.
Russ

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No it error's at OBEX file needed, but maybe that will be updated later? But my bluetooth ear piece works fine.
Russ
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OIC Hope there'll be a fix for this
I didn't know what to say when a friend of mine tried sending me a pic via Bluetooth and it didn't work :S

How do you guys connect your BT headsets?
Cause my phone does find other phones but it does not find my BT headset..... :S
Please help me out! I need Handsfree for my daily life.