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A2DP for WM5 coming soon...

I'm looking for a way to redirect my TomTom voice instructions from my MDA Vario through my Parrat CK3300 BT carkit sounding on my car-speakersystem by using the bluetooth stack. Now Parrot claims this isn't possible due to a phone limitation. I agree and think it's shortage of Microsoft WM5. Now I've looked up some info about Bluetooth Audio Distribution and found the following:
Advanced Audio Distribution Profile (A2DP)
AKU 2.0 for Windows Mobile 5.0 (for both, Smartphone and Pocket PC), which is expected to be released early next year (2006), will also includes support for the Bluetooth Advanced Audio Distribution Profile profile which is designed to transfer a stereo audio stream like music from the device to a headset or car radio.
A2DP is already implemented into the Samsung SGH-i300 Windows Mobile 2003 Second Edition Smartphone, however this isn't based on Microsoft's A2DP implementation but Samsung added it itself.
(Refer to http://www.theunwired.net/?itemid=2779 for more info concerning this subject.)
So if this article is based on true facts, it means that Microsoft will soon release a patch for all WM5 based devices, which enables them to receive all audio (e.g. TomTom voice instructions) through the bluetooth stack.
Somebody knows more about this subject and if it's true that after having AKU 2.0 installed, you can hear the navigation instructions through your carkit or headset?
Many thanks,
Youri Festen

there is a facility on this forum that will allow you to switch audio to and from the bluetooth, not high quality or stereo but standard quality.

There is ?
Been loking around in the threads for quite a while, but didn't find a replicatable solution...

Here you go

Tried all kind of files, but no go...
All i want is ALL audio over the Carkit (Supertooth2). That is TomTom + Phone.
I don't care if i have to trun of the carkit to return audio to the phone. But i don't want to have to reset or something.
I have a XDA (Himalaya) btw. Still with Rom 1.72 00WWE 15/03/2004 (Ext Rom 1.72.125)
Tried all these :
BA_OEM_AudioGW.CAB
BA_WM5_Voice_Dialer_2.cab
BCHS_FOR_POCKET_PC_OZONE[1].ARMV4.CAB
Broadcom Corporation BT-PPC AV.cab
Broadcom Stack + Switcher + Icon.zip
BroadcomCorp_BT1.0.0.3900.cab
BTAGExtModule-2.zip
btagextmodule.zip
btaudio.zip
MS-BT-107.ARMV4.CAB
SCO settings all BT.txt
voicedial2.rar

whoa it worked
i know im reaching here, but really wanted to try to stream to the new cingular 2125 (aka hct). downloaded and ran the app with my iphono steroe headphones (luv em), got intresting results.
it worked. ran the app, pushed the button on the headphones, got music. call came in, answered (with auto answer) talked, and on hangup it went back to music. however, if i ran another app on the phone such as voice tag in contacts to initiate a call, it brought in the call, but on hangup went back to the speaker. had to run the toggle on again to get headphones working, not elegant - always want more - but im a happy guy til a2dp comes out for mobile 5. thanks!

try looking at this
http://www.pdaphonehome.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=54951&perpage=20&pagenumber=1
might be what you need

Scollinguk said:
try looking at this
http://www.pdaphonehome.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=54951&perpage=20&pagenumber=1
might be what you need
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Try reading and understanding what you read before posting. See the post of dalamario that is the BTAudio on/off tool !
Is this goingt to be anter shout and wild guesses about what file or tool should "really"work ?
I tried all so called "easy" fixes, hell, i've even got a whole dump of my registry, cut through all the BT + Audio and BT + Headset threads, here and on PDAPhonehome, Howardsforum, and the reduced-to-user-bla-bla on pocketPC-club.nl.
And still zilch.....
Ow, and don't think i'm someone who wants easy answers... Think again, i've been around quite a while on PPC forums and the lot....
What i do want/like is usefull answers ans clues on how this BT and Audio stuff works, beut even after reading some on MSDN i can't find a solution yet....
That's why i jumped in on this thread, i'm not going to reinvent the wheel if some allready has the solution: Tomtom and Phone audio over BT
So i'll stop writing now, and continiu searschin for a solution... There must be one...

Sorry mr high horse, wont bother trying to help next time just in case i might not be right, but then if everyone did that no one would answer anything.

The Wizard can do system Audio over bluetooth.
This has been proved with the easy hack that allows you to activiate voice dial using a BT headset.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=29837
MS Voice Command leaves the Audio Gateway open after initialising, whilst Voice Dialler closes it.
So maybe try installing Voice Command and doing the hack in the above referenced thread, and then see if you can launch Voice command from your car kit. This should leve the gateway open and allow all system sounds to stream to your BT kit until you hit the button again.

jpiek said:
Try reading and understanding what you read before posting.
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Try keeping Himalaya talk in the Himalaya forum then. Posting questions about devices in the wrong forums just causes confusion.

Scollinguk said:
Sorry mr high horse, wont bother trying to help next time just in case i might not be right, but then if everyone did that no one would answer anything.
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Not Mr High Horse, but didn't you look at what you where posting ? You should know it linked to the same file, right ? If not, you really would just be 'shouting' ...
It's just that i've been reading XXX threads, and just about everyone comes up with the same, useless, files... Like nowbody really knows how it works and waht should be done to make Audio over BT possible...
We here are all trying real hard for months now, you see....

Just a little patience. Test version of Qtek 9100 ROM with A2DP already exists. It works with I-Phono bt-stereo, for example. So I think it will be released by March.

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bob]Just a little patience. Test version of Qtek 9100 ROM with A2DP already exists. It works with I-Phono bt-stereo, for example. So I think it will be released by March.
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where is it? i want it! i need it!
ready to test.

Can't share it.

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bob]Can't share it.
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spoil sport
i won't tell anyone,
got motorola ht850 headphones.
have one question whilst here,
when i am on the underground the headset give a beep to tell me i have no network signal? you may not know the answer but would this over ride the bluetooth stereo signal?
p.s. send me your bank details for the transfer :wink:

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bob]Just a little patience. Test version of Qtek 9100 ROM with A2DP already exists. It works with I-Phono bt-stereo, for example. So I think it will be released by March.
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Do you think that when it works with I-Phono, it will also offer us the navigation voice instructions through BT-headsets or carkits? Hope so!

Can't test it with car navigator.

if audio streaming is enabled, i would have thought you should be able to hear navigation commands.
i have used the bt audio switch that started this thread to hear tomtom commands through my headset, and it works fine.
saves me explaining to my 84 year old dad why yoda is giving me directions :lol:

aliendad said:
if audio streaming is enabled, i would have thought you should be able to hear navigation commands.
i have used the bt audio switch that started this thread to hear tomtom commands through my headset, and it works fine.
saves me explaining to my 84 year old dad why yoda is giving me directions :lol:
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It's nice.... I'd really like Tomtom over my carkit... Ohh, the XDA was so much easyer just soldered a Ground and Left/Right channnel into my TomTom/Leadtec connector, and plugged it in to my JVC Front-in line...
I bought the Qtec 2020 because BT seemd so much easyer

Microsoft Voice Command

Hi,
I am thinking of buying this software to run on my qtek 9100.
It is running a T-Mobile 1.6 rom with the blackberry connect.
Will it work OK?
Is it worth buying?
Would you recommend it?
Thanks,
Dave

i use it and love it. only wish it would work with bluetooth headsets. it's nice to hear who is calling by a nice female voice rather than ringtones. the voice recognition is great as well.

I would recommend it.
The voice dialing works much better than the standard built in voice dialing (even though it has actually sampled your voice FFS).

bl117 said:
i use it and love it. only wish it would work with bluetooth headsets. it's nice to hear who is calling by a nice female voice rather than ringtones. the voice recognition is great as well.
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It works great with bluetooth headsets. There's a couple of tweaks you need to do though. You can probably find it with a search.

bl117 said:
i use it and love it. only wish it would work with bluetooth headsets. it's nice to hear who is calling by a nice female voice rather than ringtones. the voice recognition is great as well.
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if only she didnt sound like a chinese robot!

gregski said:
It works great with bluetooth headsets. There's a couple of tweaks you need to do though. You can probably find it with a search.
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Unfortunatly, the reg hack tweak for BT VC only works once. It stops working after you end a call.

dangerous_dom said:
Unfortunatly, the reg hack tweak for BT VC only works once. It stops working after you end a call.
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Huh? I've never experienced this. Every time I push the button on my headset, Voice Command activates. No matter how many calls I've had. It might be a matter of the headset as well. I could never get my Jabra BT500 to work reliably...sold it. But my Tekkeon ET3000 works flawlessly.

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gregski said:
It works great with bluetooth headsets. There's a couple of tweaks you need to do though. You can probably find it with a search.
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Unfortunatly, the reg hack tweak for BT VC only works once. It stops working after you end a call.
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I never had this problem. Here is the tweak I use:
Go to: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\VoiceCommand
Modify the string marked "path" from the default \Windows\SDDialer.exe to \Program Files\Voice Command\VoiceCMD.exe. Reset device.
When it stops working, does that registry value still show the right value?

works fine here
VC works great with my Cardo Scala 500. Sounds better too since they gave me free silicone caps. I can hear ringtones, notifications, etc. all through the headset.

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j007w said:
VC works great with my Cardo Scala 500. Sounds better too since they gave me free silicone caps. I can hear ringtones, notifications, etc. all through the headset.
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How did you enable ring tones? Mine doesn't do that by default and I haven't figured out how to enable it.

I don't think that anyone can say that Voice Command works flawlessly over bluetooth.
The fact that pressing the button on the headset opens the audio gateway and it has to be closed before it can be opened again is a bug, not a feature. The audio gateway should close itself and doesn't.
The software has been out since January '05, I believe, so some bugs with Windows Mobile 5.0 are expected.
That being said, I love Voice Command despite its issues. Once Microsoft decides to release a new version that works better over bluetooth, I'll love it even more. It's presently still worth buying, definitely.

it's a great program, but needs to be updated for WM5. It should support activation from Bluetooth headset out of the box.
Some people seem to have it working, but with my Sony Ericsson HBH-662 it only works once after each reboot.

Mine also works only once through bluetooth - i got the latest Rom/Radio Rom (the Mr Clean one) installed, perhaps that has got something to do with it?

Deep DooDoo
Hey Guys,
I installed voice command on my Tmo Wizard and the midst of uninstalling it, it gave me a message that it wasnt uninstalled correctly. It left a shortcut in the settings section. Ever since then when i try reinstalling it, it gives me a msg that another version is already installed. How do i remove the already installed one short of hard resettin my phone? Any help will be deeply appreciated. Any role for removing it via reg edit?
Thanks in advance.
:?:

It's a great piece of software. It has a few quirks which annoy me a little but hopefully they'll be sorted in the update if it ever comes.
When voice dialing a number e.g. dial 282 456... it insists on putting a zero infront of the number i.e. it will dial 0282 456.... I'm using the UK version BTW. I tried the US version up it didn't recognise my voice as well.
Also, the volume of the voice when annoucing this could be louder. there is no way to increace the volume.
It wold be nice if they expanded the command library to include more functions.

Re: Deep DooDoo
I finally fixed it a couple of soft resets later and trying to install the updated version 1.5 before installing version 1.0 and then uninstalling both and installing 1.0 and 1.5 together it finally worked!! Its a nice piece of software.
Email me if anyone wants detailed info.
XNG
nice_xtremely said:
Hey Guys,
I installed voice command on my Tmo Wizard and the midst of uninstalling it, it gave me a message that it wasnt uninstalled correctly. It left a shortcut in the settings section. Ever since then when i try reinstalling it, it gives me a msg that another version is already installed. How do i remove the already installed one short of hard resettin my phone? Any help will be deeply appreciated. Any role for removing it via reg edit?
Thanks in advance.
:?:
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Summary: Voicecommand via Bluetooth [STILL UNDONE]

After playing around some days (and yes: i read through a lot of threats) i think that this problem (using a bluetooth headset to activate ms voicecommand for dialing and so on) is not only bugging me but a lot of others.
Thats why I want to start ANOTHER, more structured thread about this topic. If something is wrong, please correct me!
WANTED SOLUTION:
Most of you want to use voicecommand activated via a bluetooth device... in your car beside TomTom for example.
PREPARATION: Headset working
I assume that you already got your device working. For myself, I am testing with Supertooth II and a Nokia BH200 hands-free device.
PROBLEM 1: TRIGGERING
First off all, voicecommand needs to be "started" when you press a button on the headset. Usually, the application "windows/sddialer.exe" is launched when bluetooth gets a "voicecommand"-commando.
(Some headsets got their own button, some wants kinda double-click, others want their button hold for some seconds to do so...)
This problem can be solved by changing a key in the registry:
Code:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/OEM/VoiceCommand/
..Then change the path value to:
\Program Files\Voice Command\voicecmd.exe
(or whereever you installed your voicecommand exe-file!)
Okay. Now the right application is launched when tapping on your bluetooth headset. But here you may encounter the next problem: It works only once.
PROBLEM 2: IT WORKS ONLY ONCE
That problem seems to be caused by voicecommand, because the gateway is left open after useage. (I have no idea if this is correct - i am just citing the opinion of some threads)
There are some attempts to solve this:
Darryl Burlings "Voice Enable": http://www.burling.co.nz/downloads.aspx
Project VCABT http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=23558&highlight=vcabt
VCBTFixer0.01.
JETware Hands-free Extension for Windows Mobile phones
http://www.jetwaremobile.com/
I tried them all and for me (german T-Mobile Rom 2.21) only Jetware's Tool worked. A reason MAY be that some of the hacks (vcabt, VoiceEnable,VCBTFixer0.01.zip) only work with an english ROM where all paths are correct: /programs and not /programme)
PROBLEM 3: Correct Audiotransfer
Some users report that it seems like there is still Wizards microphone in use - and NOT the one of the bluetooth device. Others again claim that voicecommands "answer" isnt delivered back to the headset but speaken via Wizards speakers... Since I used Jetwares Tool i didnt had that problem.
PROBLEM 4: Recognition Quality
Lets say you got somehow the correct and everlasting triggering of voicecommand via bluetooth working... then you may find out that recognition ends up with very poor quality.
Here a question for the "pros" in here: Could it be possible that this problem is related to poor bitrates in the audiotransmission via bluetooth? Could we increase recognition quality by tweaking that bitrate? Or will that end up with another problems (bt-bandwidth, cpupower while coding/encoding)?
PROBLEM 5: Interfering with other applications
Thats a future question... When everything works well with voicecommand - then you maybe want to use it in your car to have your hands free. And what else do most of us have there too? TomTom (or another navigation tool)!
So how will that work together with your voicecommand/bluetooth environment? Will TomTom "speak" via your headset too? Will the bluetooth gps mouse keep on working without problems?
And last but not least: Will you still be able to use your phone as a "phone" then?
Please share your ideas about theese problems... and if anyone got everything up and running (Voicecommand & Bluetooth, TomTom / GPS) it would be *very* appreciated if you could post a well written Tutorial / Howto
Regards, Licht

Good luck - for what its worth it works fine with certain BT headsets like the Moto HS850. Just the reg key does it.
Only thing is you have to hit the button on the BT headset 2-3 times sometimes to get it to work but it works perfectly otherwise.
Would LOVE to have a fix that would let me use with all headsets.
How does the jetware stuff work? I heard it screws up some other things?

Cause of "works only once" problem discovered?
I've gone through 4 different headsets with my Wizard and I found at least one commonality to which ones suffered the "works only once" problem:
All of the ones that had this problem were BT 2.0 headsets. The ones that worked fine were all BT 1.x headsets.
I also verified that on my new TyTN (which natively support BT 2.0) the BT 2.0 headsets worked correctly (no "works only once").
Not that this is any consolation to anyone with a BT 2.0 headset and a Wizard, but might help those looking for a new headset.

Changed over to Tytn... works perfectly without any hacks

here's my FWIW answer:
After extensive reading here and at Hofo, I settled on a Plantronics 510. Installed Burlings app and it worked. I hold the button to turn on VC (it will also wake the device from standby if its sleeping, even if its locked) and say my command. It will reply through the headset speaker. After that all audio is oing through my BT headset. (If you have VC telling you who's calling and telling you your appointments thats pretty nice, but if the phone rings you might need some new underwear)
Another long push of the headset button return audio to teh MDA's speakers. If I need to use VC again, I start all over. It sounds more complicated thatn it is in reality.
Recognition is so-so. I don't really use it in my pickup (its hot so my windows are down most of the time), but its pretty good in my car. I have to repeat myself maybe 10% of the time, at most.
Not sure how well written that was, sorry. if anyone has any questions I'd be glad to answer them. I've been pretty pleased with the combo. Especially since I got the 510 for $40 from amazon.

Problem with MS VC 1.6

Hi All
I just installed MS Voice Command 1.6 (US) and so far its been working almost perfect. I say almost perfect because somehow when a call comes in, it announces the name of the caller through the phone speakers even though I specifically tell it to announce only through BT handsfree set. I thought that maybe my headset did not support it but the weird thing is that it would automatically read incoming messages through the BT headset. Is there any tweak that I need to do so that I can hear who is calling through the BT headset?
I am currently using an AKU2.X ROM (Dopod's latest) with a Plantronics 640E BT headset. Any help rendered is much appreciated.

I can at least tell you that a Crossbow ROM won't help...
I still get this irritating issue
Sounds like a MS Bluetooth Stack issue

Funnily this is the symptoms described on Microsoft page :
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/voicecommand/default.mspx
But for HTC Hermes & Palm Treos

Thanks to a forum member I found my mistake !!
Check this post : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1112405&postcount=369

sebbes said:
Funnily this is the symptoms described on Microsoft page :
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/voicecommand/default.mspx
But for HTC Hermes & Palm Treos
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I guess my problem is listed as "Older WM5 Devices" where the notifications for calls would be routed to the speakers. No fix there I guess.

With the PDAviet ROM it works ok !
Routed to the headset, and even the incoming calls get notified in the same manner

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With the PDAviet ROM it works ok !
Routed to the headset, and even the incoming calls get notified in the same manner
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Could you tell me more about this PDAviet that you are talking about?

it's a crossbow ROM (beta of course)

Thanks for the headsup. Unfortunately I need the functions of a proper phone and thus unable to use the ROM. Thanks for the heads up.

I see, in fact this unofficial ROM is pretty ok (just a few times when you'll have to reset before it boot up successfully)
Else the phone part is really nice, with a great smartdial (like you have on smartphones, qtek8310 etc) but you're right, it's for people that are not scared by few minor problems

MSVC 1.6 notifications - help (Microsoft Voice Commander)

I used to use MSVC 1.6 on the Tytn2 on WM6.5 (see sig) and the confirmation notifications when you called someone always used the bluetooth headset. Since running it on the Leo MSVC seems to use the loudspeaker on the handset instead of the bluetooth headset even though every setting is marked as "Announce notifications using Bluetooth hands free only"
Anyone else having this issue as I did a search and couldn't find anyone.
Edit: Just had it working once but then the other end couldn't hear me when the call connected. Then I tried again and it had reverted back to not working.
I went to Bluetooth settings, Advanced, Audio and ticked the box then rebooted the phone...

I have this same problem! Its annoying... you want to make a call and the prompts/confirmation come from the phone... Please, can someone figure this out?

Bumping thread as it should be resolvable

Starfury said:
Bumping thread as it should be resolvable
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IT isn't... I have done more research..
The Leo (and the TouchPro2) use a Widcomm BT stack as opposed to the usual MS stack. Sadly, this means the BT won't play nice with a lot of different apps/equipment. This isn't something that can be swapped out easily as NRG has pointed out. Touch Pro 2 users are still facing the same problems even though that phone was released much earlier. Some however have reported some success when using certain custom ROMS... how its working with some ROMS and not others is still a mystery it seems
I would watch the ROM Development thread carefully to see if a ROM what works with our MSVC shows up....

Hello,
Is there a workaround... ?
Thanks in advance for any info,
Jean-Jacques

I have the same problem. I'm using an old phone when I need to use hands-free. After spending a lot of money on my HD2, I'm not impressed.
I there a particular combination of headset and software that does work, especially for voice dialing?

have you tried this?
I would, but I don't know if I even have voice command on my phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=634494

DrATty said:
I there a particular combination of headset and software that does work, especially for voice dialing?
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Does not work with my helmet bike with scala-rider Q2, but does with does with Philips SH9000 stereo headset...
Mono/Stereo seems to matter.
Any workaround would be veryyyy appreciated
Jean-Jacques

Workaround
Hi,
for this following workaround seems the only way to get it runnin:
My BT-Headset has the ability to be set as a Stereo-Device. When I establish a connection to this Stereo-Device, I can use it (my BT Headset) to give Commands and recieve "answers" from the VC. In case I want to start a phone-Call, my headset changes the connection automatically from "Stereo-Device" to "Handsfree-Device" and back, after finishing the Call.
This may be the Reason, why someone here already got it running with a BT-Stereo-Headset.?
Sorry for my bad english...