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Android 2.1 in Q4

Cant believe that im the first to post this here. Enjoy
http://www.xperiax10.net/2010/05/05...ndroid-2-1-and-hd-video-recording-in-q4-2010/

SE again take too much time.
We might see other handset makers moving to 2.3 when SE release 2.1 update.

Ya, also just thought of this.....no 2.2 means no adobe flash???

Hope they address the battery issue first it just drains on my x10
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Found this on the forum there. And yes they do plan a near future update to address some performance issues and more specifically the battery issues.
http://www.xperiax10.net/forum/firm...a-x10-to-get-uxp-upgrade-in-q4-2010-t177.html

I jsut can't believe that we still need to wait till Q4 while others already running 2.1 for some time already. SE really should speed things up a little bit! In Q4 X10 properly will be an out dated phone....

if we have custom ROMs until then I couldn't care less about official updates
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brunswick000 said:
Ya, also just thought of this.....no 2.2 means no adobe flash???
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I thought about that too but I have since found out that the flash plugin could possible be made available as an app from the market.
See here:http://http://androidandme.com/2010/03/news/adobe-details-flash-10-1-installations/
It makes sense as it was originally understood that you needed 2.1 to run flash and not 2.2 (Froyo).
I guess having 2.2 means it's preinstalled.
Time will tell!

I guess that as 2.2 is not fully released yet, it is difficult for SE to say how or if it could be implemented. I've had SE phones for years and they are always very wary about promising things before they know they can deliever.
But I do agree that in this more open and enlightened age, SE need to engage more with their customer base...
I've always had issues with the Linux community releasing far too many releases far too often..

Very true in regards to 2.2 not being available yet. On the positive side of things SE can very well change their minds and go with 2.2 (if available). At this point they can only promise 2.1 although they should bump the timeframe up. Rogers is coming with the Acer liquid e which is preinstalled with 2.1 so SE needs to take that into consideration and bump the date up at least to june/july.

daeshawn said:
Very true in regards to 2.2 not being available yet. On the positive side of things SE can very well change their minds and go with 2.2 (if available). At this point they can only promise 2.1 although they should bump the timeframe up. Rogers is coming with the Acer liquid e which is preinstalled with 2.1 so SE needs to take that into consideration and bump the date up at least to june/july.
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SE could change their minds but I think that if they have announced 2.1 it will be because they are currently working on 2.1.
Just as SE originally announced 1.6 and they delayed and delayed until 2.x was released. The launch was delayed so much that we all thought 2.1 could possibly ship with the x10. However the reason for the delay was down to bugs e.t.c. I guess they expect more of the same with 2.1.
If they were to change their minds and bring 2.2, we'd be waiting until the end of Q1 2011.
I just hope they are planning to support the device beyond the 2.1 OS.

I think they have said that they will continue to provide updates during the phone's lifespan (whatever that is....) But I guess they want to develop against a stable platform and no doubt don't want to develop against 2.2 until all the initial bugs are ironed out....
Hopefully they will speed up their development cycles, 6 months to migrate to a new baseline is far too long for their flagship device.....
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You will need to get a "X20" same time next year for 2.2

QuadESL63 said:
You will need to get a "X20" same time next year for 2.2
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Yeah X20 with 2.2 by the time all other phones are on Android 3.x
It's as if SE is only doing 'minimal effort' for their customers.

ShadowFlare said:
Yeah X20 with 2.2 by the time all other phones are on Android 3.x
It's as if SE is only doing 'minimal effort' for their customers.
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No doubt!
They should have make it into 2 releases for 2.1: 2.1 w/ all existing features/SE apps + bug fixes tested by mid year (June-July time frame) and another one with all those nice and new apps + features in Q4. That way we can be on par with the other (newer) Android phones sooner.
They should hire me as their release manager
On the other hand there is no incentive for SE to keep up the pace for X10 when they will announce newer phones later this year/early next year

err when is Q4?

arcticreaver said:
err when is Q4?
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Last four months of this year.

apperantly gsmarena states that it willg et HD video recording as well
like i said in another post, SONy has dropped the ball huge.
just like they did on the x1 with minimal updates.

gregy74 said:
Last four months of this year.
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Last 3 months =).

too long and too vague.
hope they release an update that fixes the battery issues ASAP!

NO 2.1 we want 2.2 for X10!

2.2 is wonderful! X10 can handle it very well!
let's e-mail to SE to express our idea!

if the x10 can be rooted, does that mean that we technically would be able to run froyo on it ? 2.2

i hope so .

Yeah, i saw some vidoes of 2.2 on youtube and i was left feeling really jealous of the nexus one people that will get it!
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when it comes for my x10 ?

se has promised 2.1 and froyo would take another 4 months ..

jnd16d said:
when it comes for my x10 ?
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we willnever get it without root

look at the company that respect their customers http://www.gsmarena.com/all_the_latest_htc_android_phones_will_get_the_froyo_treatment-news-1674.php after only one day of announcement of the new android ,they announced that all their devices will get it before the end of the year ,(ofcource you all know which company iam talking about )

ok,
froyo looks good, very good.
2.1 in Q2010/4 and 2.2 in Q2011/1 for x10 makes no sense.
That means there are a some reasons why SE could stick to 2.1/Q4:
- SE plans a X10 sucessor for Q4 with froyo (including multitouch)
- google wants to have a clean froyo/hardware base, which could mean all f froyo-devices should have multitouch
- ?
- SE is cool or clever enough (like HTC) and announce 2.2/froyo for all X10 device-classes and cancels the 2.1 update

meta96 said:
froyo looks good, very good.
2.1 in Q2010/4 and 2.2 in Q2011/1 for x10 makes no sense.
That means there are a some reasons why SE could stick to 2.1/Q4:
- SE plans a X10 sucessor for Q4 with froyo (including multitouch)
- google wants to have a clean froyo/hardware base, which could mean all f froyo-devices should have multitouch
- ?
- SE is cool or clever enough (like HTC) and announce 2.2/froyo for all X10 device-classes and cancels the 2.1 update
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from where didi you got your info SE didnot canclled 2.1 never said any thing about 2.2

especially since its just been announced that flash will need 2.2 as a minumum.

hoss_n2 said:
from where didi you got your info SE didnot canclled 2.1 never said any thing about 2.2
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problem is, companies are not as stupid as we sometimes thinks. they just make sometimes the wrong desicions.
the x10 has no multi/dualtouch maybe the big screen & dual/multi was (last year) to expensive/not avaible.
To annouce 2.1 two weeks before google I/O is also very stupid, because everyone knows that 2.2 will come at google I/O
... so there must be a reason, maybe a reason SE knows before (e.g. google wants froyo only on multitouch devices, maybe,
look, there is no HTC Legend in the HTC - 2.2 update list) so SE had to announce 2.1 before google I/O . If this is correct we only can hope ...
Second time in my life i have to thank adobe, because flash 10.1 needs 2.2 and this could change everything.
The X10 devices (mini, etc.) and SE cannot survive beside the desire/nexus without flash ... so next week(s), we will see ...

I sincerely hope that Sony Ericsson Xperia to update to Froyo, because if do not update, Sony will be out of the game.
Consumers are not stupid. Not sell any telephone.
I will never again buy a Sony product.

The truth and we really know this already is that we will not see an official update from Sony to the xperia x10 in 2010.
We really need to face this and realize its just NOT going to happen. I am not being negative just realistic.
Our only hope is for the guys on the development side come up with a way to root the x10 and get it to run froyo. But an official update from Sony is VERY unlikely!

meta96 said:
Second time in my life i have to thank adobe, because flash 10.1 needs 2.2 and this could change everything.
The X10 devices (mini, etc.) and SE cannot survive beside the desire/nexus without flash ... so next week(s), we will see ...
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Yeah, I hope google isn't trying to set a baseline for 2.2+ with multitouch as a requirement.
But I do agree with this. Flash could just save us...
Oh and cmboud, we will see an update from SE this year. The problem is if it is the update we want or not

Maybe it sounds stupid but how about a petition? As long its post on multiple forums we can get lots of people, what you think?I willing to start it,just need someone to write me a good intro for it since my english is not the best as you probably have noticed.

It sounds like a good idea but I'm pretty sure it's something that they already know, of COURSE we want the latest and greatest, that's why we choose this phone most likely.
I don't belive a petition will resolve anything in our favour - if they could announce 2.2 they would - it would sell more handsets!
my .02

On a norwegian mobile site mobilen.no, stated:
HTC say they will make 2.2 available on phones that are launched this year, writes Phandroid.com.
The Sony Ericsson says the long term will make 2.2 available for its Xperia X10 models. Here we are waiting still on version 2.1.
http://mobilen.no/wip4/fullt-godbiter-android-2-2/d.epl?id=44606
How long we (X10 owners) have to wait? *Wondering*

An online petition could be a great thing if we wouldn't talk about SE. What do you think will happen? Where to send this petition?
Send it to SE vie email?
Hmmm let me think we will get an answer like "Thank you for your opinion, try to update your x10 via SEUS...blablabla"
Call the Support and inform them about the petition?
The answer would be something like "Don't believe the internet!! The X10 works fine. Try an Update via SEUS... blablabla"
What should we write into that petition? Give us 2.2?
Answer "There will be an Update to 2.1 in Q4... Thank you"
Fix the battery issues
Answer "Thank you very much for your contact, there will be an update try SEUS... blablabla"
Or better "Battery issues? Don't belive the internet!"
I think it's very poor that such a big company doen't care at all about their customers. If SE doen't come up with some ass kicking updates in the next months this was my last SE device.

New update for 1.6 ......

In 2 or 3 weeks SE will realease a firmware update for 1.6 and it will fix some bugs of the phone, it will be much faster and the battery will not drain so fast....
Just wait and you will see...
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Any link ?

The question is WHERE will they release it ? I live in Indonesia and here wasnt a single update yet :-( so maybe it's for Nordic Firmware only again.

I have a cousin who is working in SE and he said to me today that thing. That's why i know that...
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Mod edit: not dev related, moved to general

yeah, i'm in the united states, will there be an update over here?

erm SE already said this 2-3 weeks ago lol, typical!!

They said this about 3 weeks ago:
"I would also like to emphasise that there will be an additional smaller software update, already in the next couple of weeks aiming to enhance the usability and performance of Xperia™ X10. "
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and now, 2 or 3 more weeks to go? huh

Same same... SE slow as hell - lots of talk, no action...

X10 will be my last SE phone, coz i hate this company so much. They don't even care about their customers.

It will be update for 1.6 not upgrade to 2.1 . . .
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GSeeker said:
They said this about 3 weeks ago:
"I would also like to emphasise that there will be an additional smaller software update, already in the next couple of weeks aiming to enhance the usability and performance of Xperia™ X10. "
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and now, 2 or 3 more weeks to go? huh
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On May 5 put the new firmware would be available in two weeks, have now edited their blog to make next weeks. SonyEricsson always lie.

GSeeker said:
X10 will be my last SE phone, coz i hate this company so much. They don't even care about their customers.
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im the same ive been a loyal customer for years, and this is the last time!! Ill give HTC a go as they seem to be really on the ball

tiggerbcn said:
On May 5 put the new firmware would be available in two weeks, have now edited their blog to make next weeks. SonyEricsson always lie.
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No they haven't, it said the next 'couple of weeks' from May 5th originally, however that would have placed the update last week. But reading it from today 'next couple of weeks' is nearer the truth.

lol, that is what they said 3 weeks ago, we will be lucky if we even get 2.1 this year.

New Firmware has heading to China
R2BA016..
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I can understand the dissapointment, i am to waiting for the uppgrade but still, SE is only doing what everyone else does. Like microsoft, blizzard etc, they just want to make sure everything is working 100% before release. If that meens breaking deadline then so be it.. i want a noticeable upgrade/update rather then some fast coffybreak job!
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SE puts out a great phone that everyone knew had Android 1.6 on it, it then goes and says that it will update to Andorid 2.1 by the end of the year with the addition of HD video recording, and during the week that Froyo is released it states that it will update to later versions of Android after the 2.1 release. Yet people still decide to "hate" them and they claim to know that SE will never upgrade past 2.1 (despite SE's continued claims throughout the X10 development process that the phone will get updated during its useful life, and that this will be a break from the past). Despite all of this people "hate" them and will "never trust them again" etc. SE has not broken any promise to me regarding the X10 and all these prepubescent tantrums regarding Android 2.1 and 2.2 are just soooo annoying.

GSeeker said:
X10 will be my last SE phone, coz i hate this company so much. They don't even care about their customers.
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I agree with you. Back to HTC.
The only great thing about this phone is support from XDA developers.

Bialynia said:
SE puts out a great phone that everyone knew had Android 1.6 on it, it then goes and says that it will update to Andorid 2.1 by the end of the year with the addition of HD video recording, and during the week that Froyo is released it states that it will update to later versions of Android after the 2.1 release. Yet people still decide to "hate" them and they claim to know that SE will never upgrade past 2.1 (despite SE's continued claims throughout the X10 development process that the phone will get updated during its useful life, and that this will be a break from the past). Despite all of this people "hate" them and will "never trust them again" etc. SE has not broken any promise to me regarding the X10 and all these prepubescent tantrums regarding Android 2.1 and 2.2 are just soooo annoying.
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I support this fully...stop yapping about the phone not having 2.1..you allready knew this when you purchased your phone. It will come in due time. Im super happy with my phone regardless of the OS version!

2.1 news

I heard today from a guy at a local store, that he heard from an inside source of SE that the reasons the update is takibg long is because they devepoperw are having lag issues caused by the increase in color denisity (65 thou to 16m), theyr working on optimizing hd recording where thyr trying to get higher fpses as well as optimization regarding 720p playback... other improvments that he mentioned where problems known in 1.6 such as low incall volume as well as the poor battery perfomance...and that the update might be posponed to late q4............ this is not an official source so its possible that some of he said if not all wasnt true i just hope the update will be worth the wait

I will be crushed if I have to wait till end of Q4

2.1 is outdated now , we need 2.2 like the rest of other devices

sony should do it fast there is lot of competition in the market like desire,xdroid etc

They should release what they have and fix any issues with updates.

instigator008 said:
They should release what they have and fix any issues with updates.
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This would do more harm than good. Ask the Xperia X2 guys about their first update.
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hoss_n2 said:
2.1 is outdated now , we need 2.2 like the rest of other devices
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Lemme tell ya, coming from a nexus one running 2.2 I was not impressed with it compared to 2.1. froyo was supposed to be such a big deal and to me nothing really changed. I'm Perfectly happy with my x10 now and ill be happier with 2.1....more so than I was with my nexus one with froyo.

That are bad news hope they will not come true. But on15.September HTC releases his desire hd. As soon as it is to buy here I will order it.
I'm wondering if I will get first 2.1 or the desire hd ?
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Q4 now?
So I guess it's confirmed for release in early 2011. Can't wait.

Wow late quarter 4. Now sony is taking the piss if this is true.

They should skip SE customization in the first release and release with stock Android 2.2 without wasting more time to solve issues with their 2.1 release.
If this is true and 2.1 come end of Q4, it will only make SE look even worse than coming out with 1.6 now. By then all new Androids will probably already come with 3.0.

Mr Patchy Patch said:
Lemme tell ya, coming from a nexus one running 2.2 I was not impressed with it compared to 2.1. froyo was supposed to be such a big deal and to me nothing really changed. I'm Perfectly happy with my x10 now and ill be happier with 2.1....more so than I was with my nexus one with froyo.
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but lots of apps are changing their supprt to froyo including flashplayer and crome to phone , and using benchmark it indicates abig improvement in speed over 2.1

Nothing official yet anyway. Still looking at end of September. They would be shooting themselves in the foot by delaying, especially in light of the at&t release.

Lemme tell ya, coming from a nexus one running 2.2 I was not impressed with it compared to 2.1. froyo was supposed to be such a big deal and to me nothing really changed. I'm Perfectly happy with my x10 now and ill be happier with 2.1....more so than I was with my nexus one with froyo.
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Pull the other one, it's got bells on... Way to blow your credibility in one post.
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q4 is late

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q4 is late
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So, if I told you a story about how some dude on the subway today was like "The update for 2.1 was delayed until Q2 2011" would you believe me?

Not exciting. All hearsays. I'm already desensitized.

why are people bothered about the SE 2.1 when we have some of the best dev's known on the task of getting us to 2.2???
dont live your lifes waiting for a SE 2.1 as chances are you will get more and more wound up about it.

I think Sony Ericsson should just release a clean Android 2.1/2.2 for our device and then later on one with their custom UI and let the users decide what type they want on their device in the future.
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Another comfirmation from sonyericssonUK twitter. ''@Dacihappymaker Hi David, The upgrade to Android 2.1 is due for release before the end of quarter 3 this year. We hope this helps.''

Sony Ericsson committed to Android [ROFL]

When asked about the problem of rolling out new versions of Android to its handsets, Walker said he believed that this wasn't an important issue for most consumers, but recognized that it was a concern for more "spec savvy" customers"
http://www.androidcentral.com/sony-...mpaign=Feed:+androidcentral+(Android+Central)
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Commited my butt....
Hopefully SE won´t make the same mistakes with arc.

my hand just touched my face! [facepalm]

I hope they will change their opinion

"We are launching a product in Q1 of this year running 2.3, we have recognised the need to have our products on the latest release. ..."
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Haha!!! Total bs...
If they were, we would see Xperia on 2.3 now.

FUBAR
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For me this is stupid.
They know that they need to release new android version but not trought update but trought new product.They can do this trought update but they wont.
Crazy idea for profit

why they can't give us the new damn 2.3 update and finish this crap