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Android 2.1 in Q4

Cant believe that im the first to post this here. Enjoy
http://www.xperiax10.net/2010/05/05...ndroid-2-1-and-hd-video-recording-in-q4-2010/

SE again take too much time.
We might see other handset makers moving to 2.3 when SE release 2.1 update.

Ya, also just thought of this.....no 2.2 means no adobe flash???

Hope they address the battery issue first it just drains on my x10
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Found this on the forum there. And yes they do plan a near future update to address some performance issues and more specifically the battery issues.
http://www.xperiax10.net/forum/firm...a-x10-to-get-uxp-upgrade-in-q4-2010-t177.html

I jsut can't believe that we still need to wait till Q4 while others already running 2.1 for some time already. SE really should speed things up a little bit! In Q4 X10 properly will be an out dated phone....

if we have custom ROMs until then I couldn't care less about official updates
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brunswick000 said:
Ya, also just thought of this.....no 2.2 means no adobe flash???
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I thought about that too but I have since found out that the flash plugin could possible be made available as an app from the market.
See here:http://http://androidandme.com/2010/03/news/adobe-details-flash-10-1-installations/
It makes sense as it was originally understood that you needed 2.1 to run flash and not 2.2 (Froyo).
I guess having 2.2 means it's preinstalled.
Time will tell!

I guess that as 2.2 is not fully released yet, it is difficult for SE to say how or if it could be implemented. I've had SE phones for years and they are always very wary about promising things before they know they can deliever.
But I do agree that in this more open and enlightened age, SE need to engage more with their customer base...
I've always had issues with the Linux community releasing far too many releases far too often..

Very true in regards to 2.2 not being available yet. On the positive side of things SE can very well change their minds and go with 2.2 (if available). At this point they can only promise 2.1 although they should bump the timeframe up. Rogers is coming with the Acer liquid e which is preinstalled with 2.1 so SE needs to take that into consideration and bump the date up at least to june/july.

daeshawn said:
Very true in regards to 2.2 not being available yet. On the positive side of things SE can very well change their minds and go with 2.2 (if available). At this point they can only promise 2.1 although they should bump the timeframe up. Rogers is coming with the Acer liquid e which is preinstalled with 2.1 so SE needs to take that into consideration and bump the date up at least to june/july.
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SE could change their minds but I think that if they have announced 2.1 it will be because they are currently working on 2.1.
Just as SE originally announced 1.6 and they delayed and delayed until 2.x was released. The launch was delayed so much that we all thought 2.1 could possibly ship with the x10. However the reason for the delay was down to bugs e.t.c. I guess they expect more of the same with 2.1.
If they were to change their minds and bring 2.2, we'd be waiting until the end of Q1 2011.
I just hope they are planning to support the device beyond the 2.1 OS.

I think they have said that they will continue to provide updates during the phone's lifespan (whatever that is....) But I guess they want to develop against a stable platform and no doubt don't want to develop against 2.2 until all the initial bugs are ironed out....
Hopefully they will speed up their development cycles, 6 months to migrate to a new baseline is far too long for their flagship device.....
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You will need to get a "X20" same time next year for 2.2

QuadESL63 said:
You will need to get a "X20" same time next year for 2.2
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Yeah X20 with 2.2 by the time all other phones are on Android 3.x
It's as if SE is only doing 'minimal effort' for their customers.

ShadowFlare said:
Yeah X20 with 2.2 by the time all other phones are on Android 3.x
It's as if SE is only doing 'minimal effort' for their customers.
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No doubt!
They should have make it into 2 releases for 2.1: 2.1 w/ all existing features/SE apps + bug fixes tested by mid year (June-July time frame) and another one with all those nice and new apps + features in Q4. That way we can be on par with the other (newer) Android phones sooner.
They should hire me as their release manager
On the other hand there is no incentive for SE to keep up the pace for X10 when they will announce newer phones later this year/early next year

err when is Q4?

arcticreaver said:
err when is Q4?
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Last four months of this year.

apperantly gsmarena states that it willg et HD video recording as well
like i said in another post, SONy has dropped the ball huge.
just like they did on the x1 with minimal updates.

gregy74 said:
Last four months of this year.
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Last 3 months =).

too long and too vague.
hope they release an update that fixes the battery issues ASAP!

Official update from Sony regarding v2.1 update

An official update from Sony Ericsson UK from 2 days ago:
The update including v2.1 and HD recording will be released before the end of September, and will not be delayed to Q4 like someone mentioned here on the forum.
http://twitter.com/SonyEricssonUK/status/21570424945

iamtal said:
An official update from Sony Ericsson UK from 2 days ago:
The update including v2.1 and HD recording will be released before the end of September, and will not be delayed to Q4 like someone mentioned here on the forum.
http://twitter.com/SonyEricssonUK/status/21570424945
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Old news is old, but thanks for the effort.

Good to know that they are aware of the Q4 rumours and have squashed them.
Hopefully they roll out the update in the early part of September.

ddewbofh said:
Old news is old, but thanks for the effort.
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It's not old, it is a new announcement from 2 days ago.
Someone here on the forum claimed that he has some internal information from Sony saying that the updated will pushed back to Q4 due to performance issues, and this new announcement reassures that the update will be released on Q3 as promised before.

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It's not old, it is a new announcement from 2 days ago.
Someone here on the forum claimed that he has some internal information from Sony saying that the updated will pushed back to Q4 due to performance issues, and this new announcement reassures that the update will be released on Q3 as promised before.
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I didn't mean old as in the passage of time but rather old as in that specific tweet had been discussed to death already. Was just trying to inject a quick quip before the hordes descended on the thread and flamed it into oblivion.

the announcement is very important. There has been a lot of rumors flying around the market. In this particular time, the consumers do need the official clarification instead of just guessing themselves. Thanks to SE UK for making the announcement again, which should have been done on the SE product launch blog.
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thanks for the information.

O Nozzz!
Without my upgrade tomorrow to 2.2 all the other kids in my class will think I am 2% less cool than they are!!
I read on the interwebs that Sony lied to me, and I will never ever ever ever forgive them. And I am going to cut myself.
/sarcasm

Was wishing to get it before school starts.. Guess not... BTW, we get to keep all our stuff/settings in the update right?

Here in denmark x10 will get a update next week, but don't know what phone of the xperia series it is
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knudsen81 said:
Here in denmark x10 will get a update next week, but don't know what phone of the xperia series it is
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How do you know?

miguelsantos1979 said:
How do you know?
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some that have buy a mini pro from telmore has got a note with it that says they will get a update in week 34
here is a link http://kortlink.dk/82tv

People make airplanes for 6 months and SE needs that time to implement OLD 2.1 on X10 device...they could build whole new X20 phone for that time.

You say "A" update are we talking 2.1 or what (Im dane as well) and where do you got that from
Oh it just say a updaye not what it is and just that it will solve known problems

NiJunge said:
You say "A" update are we talking 2.1 or what (Im dane as well) and where do you got that from
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it was uploaded on mobildebat.dk but i don't know what a update it is

damirbusic said:
People make airplanes for 6 months and SE needs that time to implement OLD 2.1 on X10 device...they could build whole new X20 phone for that time.
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I wouldn't set foot in an airplane that was designed in under 6 months
SE sure take some time, but I'd rather have them deliver a well refined 2.1 then some quick fix

beno1 said:
I wouldn't set foot in an airplane that was designed in under 6 months
SE sure take some time, but I'd rather have them deliver a well refined 2.1 then some quick fix
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Heh, airplanes take years to design, test and build. The 747 for example started development in 1965 before entering service in 1970.

ddewbofh said:
Heh, airplanes take years to design, test and build. The 747 for example started development in 1965 before entering service in 1970.
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But to carry on the analogy, porting SE's UXP to Eclair is more like taking a built 747, redecorating it, and putting some useless demo apps in the cockpit to help navigate .

chris_knows said:
But to carry on the analogy, porting SE's UXP to Eclair is more like taking a built 747, redecorating it, and putting some useless demo apps in the cockpit to help navigate .
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Exactly and remember how long it took to modernice the concord ???

chris_knows said:
But to carry on the analogy, porting SE's UXP to Eclair is more like taking a built 747, redecorating it, and putting some useless demo apps in the cockpit to help navigate .
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More like taking the blueprints for a 747, building a new body but keeping the infrastructure underneath while adding a fourth floor. It's not as big of a task as building it from scratch but it while take considerable time to develop, test and then finally build it. Might not take five years, but getting it done it under two would be a massive accomplishment.

Samsung Spain says Froyo update will be out at the end of October

Samsung Spain on their Facebook page has said that Froyo update will be through Kies at the end of October
http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=161124793901551&id=108610811866

I think it's only for Spain. Other countries will getting end of September. That what I heard.

probably needs time to translate the ROM from English to Spanglish

Well, if what they currently have is remotely similar to the leaked JPH firmware, I bet that end of October sounds more reasonable as a release date. I don't think they are ready yet.

huxflux2003 said:
Well, if what they currently have is remotely similar to the leaked JPH firmware, I bet that end of October sounds more reasonable as a release date. I don't think they are ready yet.
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^ +1
If JPH is what they have at the begining of September, they still have much work to do. I'm not accepting a Froyo ROM that has bugs that were not present on Android 2.1 ROMs, it would be absurd.

for India too it has been postponed to October WTF!

This better be a great firmware that is fast enough... I mean delY after delay..i think the perception now is ... It better be good.
Having said that jph to me has been the greatest firmware so far... No problems..

Hey let them take the time if they can produce a better firmware.
A few people still report issues with it so why not.
I'm in no hurry. People are so impatient these days.

+1.
Better get a decent firmware 1 month later than get crap now and have them not evolve it anymore.
Of course, both worlds would be better. A free lunch either!
Paulo

hell yes, take all the time you need samsung (reasonably), dont give us crap.

Yeah, Samsung is staying true to tradition in either delaying all updates or not releasing at all. Very disappoint after they release such an awesome product.

In the earlier post i read that oct is date for india too. This is real bad news for indian sgs owners because i for one was waiting for sept last week release. I hope this piece of news is not true.
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JSAHITA said:
In the earlier post i read that oct is date for india too. This is real bad news for indian sgs owners because i for one was waiting for sept last week release. I hope this piece of news is not true.
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This news is true. I am just pissed off. Samsung is such a big company and it cant even iron out few obvious bugs. the great thing is that samsung has not even confirmed that they will fix the lag. They have not even accepted that their RFS is ****. If HTC and Motorola can release the good froyo builds in less time, then why not smasung? I dont think their touchwiz UI will take more time than HTC sense UI. Samsung just cares for money. They got the money, now they will concentrate on other new models.This is my last phone from samsung.

nickporwal said:
This news is true. I am just pissed off. Samsung is such a big company and it cant even iron out few obvious bugs. the great thing is that samsung has not even confirmed that they will fix the lag. They have not even accepted that their RFS is ****. If HTC and Motorola can release the good froyo builds in less time, then why not smasung? I dont think their touchwiz UI will take more time than HTC sense UI. Samsung just cares for money. They got the money, now they will concentrate on other new models.This is my last phone from samsung.
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Also my last samsung phone

HTC is also not God's gift to the cellphone world ... Not all HTC phones have froyo yet ( Legend and Wildfire for example) Here in the netherlands the Legend was released before the desire but still no update to froyo not even a date for the eventual update .. there was an ota update for the legend about 2 motns ago with lots of bugs .. No word from htc about that and even worse not even an update that fixes the problems .. The 2.2 update for the Desire also wasn't without problems .. What I am saying is : the grass is allways greener on the other side ..but when you take a closer look you will see the truth

GAda said:
Also my last samsung phone
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Fuccccckkkk samsung waited all this time for nothing!

nickporwal said:
This news is true. I am just pissed off. Samsung is such a big company and it cant even iron out few obvious bugs. the great thing is that samsung has not even confirmed that they will fix the lag. They have not even accepted that their RFS is ****. If HTC and Motorola can release the good froyo builds in less time, then why not smasung? I dont think their touchwiz UI will take more time than HTC sense UI. Samsung just cares for money. They got the money, now they will concentrate on other new models.This is my last phone from samsung.
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GAda said:
Also my last samsung phone
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what the hell you guys upset about? it's a good phone yes, it does what it needs to do yes, so you see there is no problem and it's only a figment of your imagination.
besides that I believe that Samsung outsources their coding jobs to third parties what would explain constant delays because outsourcing stuff always gives delays as you have little grip on the company you outsource it to.
so in the end it all makes sense and stop blaming Samsung for trying ;O

I'm looking forward to a stable update that might even bring some benefits.
But come on, grow some patience. If they did have a launch plan for late September and during testing decided it wasn't ready yet, well, so be it. Meanwhile the phone do what its supposed to do better then my old phone and with a gadget factor of 1000 more on top of that. CIV V will be out, the autumn TV-series are appearing and between that and working end of october will be here in no time...

at least HTC flagship device like Desire is not as problematic as ours. Do u see any premier device from any of the top companies has lagging problem like the Galaxy S? (and x10 )
if not because of this problem, i dont give a damn on froyo. i dont need flash, because I've used to iPhone for the whole 2009. Wireless tethering is already available in SGS' 2.1 rom.. i just need a smooth device for my daily use! and i spent MYR2600 to get this phone which equivalents to average fresh graduates salary in my country.

personally I'm not too bothered at the moment as with jm7 (can't be bothered to go to jm8 unless there is a very good reason to put the hours in again) and the voodoo fix along with autokiller set to strict my phone is very nice to use now and does everything I need it to anyway.
It is a little disappointing to have to wait even longer, but I'm absolutely not surprised as I said all along I think it'll be near xmas before we get a good solid froyo firmware with not too many bugs in; besides, I've got a feeling that this will be a big anti climax anyway... I certainly won't be expecting the huge link scores of the nexus one, but my device proves already it has the potential to run as fast anyway already.
Tbh I'd settle for the niggles being ironed out and am not too concerned yet for the os version; for the time being I'm more concerned on the end result.
I too though won't be buying another samsung device of any kind, not because of the froyo debacle, but because every samsung product I've bought has been sub par.

Gingerbread on X10 delayed in August

According to SE blog Gingerbread is delayed in August:
http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/products/2011/06/20/update-on-gingerbread-for-xperia™-x10/
While this is a bad news for X10 owners they have some excuses:
"...March most of the 2011 XperiaTM software functionality from e.g. XperiaTM arc will be included. The UI with the desktop layout and pinch-to-overview gesture will be similar and Gingerbread features like Wi-Fi & USB tethering, App storage on SD-card etc are included. Also the customizable horizontal app tray and the media experience widgets from the 2011 XperiaTM Products are in, including an integrated equalizer in the music player. Of course also apps that require Android versions 2.2 or 2.3 will now be possible to download from Android Market, e.g. Adobe flash."
August is not so far away so let's see. I am not o pressed anymore as I have also my Arc
Mugur
http://mugur-ionescu.ro/tag/xperia

look up
*smacks forhead*

I just checked the blog out too. I wonder, why the delay? I see the mobile will become a hotspot, tethering they are allowing. Is it compatible software on SE's end?
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the reason was explained in the blog and the discussion is happening in the gingerbread update discussion thread.

I actually had faith in SE, but now they've delayed their update I don't care what device they will bring in the future. Also the only improvement of our devs their roms will be the camera. I will move to HTC (Only if they get a nice design) or else I will go to Samsung. They said it's planned for end Q2/begin Q3. August is not the begin but middle of Q3!! I'm very dissapointed as SE customer and I spend my damn money on this phone that will not even kept as updated as a Arc would be.
1.5 years left, and I can finally say Hello to HTC/Samsung and bye SE. I don't care what ever they say, they promised fast updates. Well I see, months of work and still a late release then promised. Also, great customer service. NOT, they can't even reply to your questions, and mostly in a NORMAL way without typefaults.

PlayGunsta said:
I actually had faith in SE, but now they've delayed their update I don't care what device they will bring in the future. Also the only improvement of our devs their roms will be the camera. I will move to HTC (Only if they get a nice design) or else I will go to Samsung. They said it's planned for end Q2/begin Q3. August is not the begin but middle of Q3!! I'm very dissapointed as SE customer and I spend my damn money on this phone that will not even kept as updated as a Arc would be.
1.5 years left, and I can finally say Hello to HTC/Samsung and bye SE. I don't care what ever they say, they promised fast updates. Well I see, months of work and still a late release then promised. Also, great customer service. NOT, they can't even reply to your questions, and mostly in a NORMAL way without typefaults.
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Agreed they have always been full of crap they promised us features then later retracted statements
Ill never make the mistake of buying a SE. again
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And we needed a separate thread for this to remind us about the delay every time we look in general section right?

This was the final push. I am buying a new phone now.Not a SE.

Closing this thread cause there is already a gingerbread thread stickied

Delay of Android 4.0 ICS

Sony delayed the roll-out of ics for our devices :
http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/03/30/sony-delays-xperia-android-4-0-ics-update-now-starting-from-mid-april/

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Sony delayed the roll-out of ics for our devices :
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Ohhh....It was a bad news...

OMG! checking update every morning ( now it's delayed

People need to get a grip. It was always going to be end March/begining April for those handsets, it's been moved a a WHOLE 2 WEEKS...
What is wrong with people??? They should be happy they are getting their ICS in two weeks from now, rather than crying into their milk.

I totaly agree with you. Mind you I don't mind I'm already on ICS as of this morning for my Xperia Arc
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People need to get a grip. It was always going to be end March/begining April for those handsets, it's been moved a a WHOLE 2 WEEKS...
What is wrong with people??? They should be happy they are getting their ICS in two weeks from now, rather than crying into their milk.
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People need to get a grip. It was always going to be end March/begining April for those handsets, it's been moved a a WHOLE 2 WEEKS...
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Only for three out of the eleven handsets. The rest have a month delay - that is not insignificant.

For sure someone would make a patch to use arc s ics update to arc.
Mid-April it is.

Oh no, please not this again. I had this over at the Asus Transformer thread and some of the comments people left just stunned me. Luckily so far these forums seem much more forgiving!
Here's the way I see it, firstly, 2 weeks is nothing. The update is coming, that's grand. 2 weeks wait is fine, you won't even notice.
Secondly, the phones work just fine with GB. There's no big bugs, everything works swimmingly. ICS will bring some tastey new features, and that's great, but I think we should accept a delay for extra features on top of some already pretty brilliant phones.
I can only sit here and hope that the Arc community is more forgiving than the TF forum. Obviously not everyone was bad, but there was a LOT of very angry posts over there, and every single one made me facepalm in the name of extreme first world problems.
I'm looking forward to the update, and I'm sure the wait will fly by

must say i find it quite bizarre with the bells and whistles of the new Xperia S, that it it the last in line for the update. Quite odd. If i was Sony trying to push people to buy it, i would give it the update first.

I just want it to be ICS 4.0.4
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I hope sony release ICS ROM with clear bass

End May or early June for Xperia Arc --> bye bye Sony for me
X10 times are back, at the end it will come in 6 months.
Be ashamed Sony!
I'm pissed because Sony said the want to keep up with updates, at first they did that.
But then they stopped at 2.3.4 and even 120€ 600MHz Samsung devices are on 2.3.6.
Then they said that they won't update the kernel to 3.0 to oush it out faster.
Samsung and HTC did update the kernel to 3.0 and are pushing out 4.0 already!

kuya
maganda ba ang ics 4 dude...?

well
i tried the ICS beta ROMS
all of them are buggy in terms of gaming performance, almost all games are laggy, random blank screen would show up, etc.
also all 2011 xperia devices has very few RAM and i feel it's not enough on ICS, even music player+whatsapp would cause the launcher to redraw (even it's supercharged= =).
so I think Sony has to do more tweaks and programming before they roll out the updates, if they have talented engineer
and Sony also says ICS “may impact performance in some user scenarios” OMG Sony you should have given the devices more RAM.
but.. end of May to early June.. I am pissed off.
I still don't understand why arc s, ray and neo v can update first.. anyway, i will think these 3 phones are bug-testers

People have always said that ICS came between 15marts - 15 april for Arc S?

Flo95 said:
End May or early June for Xperia Arc --> bye bye Sony for me
X10 times are back, at the end it will come in 6 months.
Be ashamed Sony!
I'm pissed because Sony said the want to keep up with updates, at first they did that.
But then they stopped at 2.3.4 and even 120€ 600MHz Samsung devices are on 2.3.6.
Then they said that they won't update the kernel to 3.0 to oush it out faster.
Samsung and HTC did update the kernel to 3.0 and are pushing out 4.0 already!
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Dude, just flash LT18's ftf when it's available.
EDIT: Samsung's firmwares are not as good as Sony/SE's, trust me. On the other hand, HTC's are as solid as ours.

Yeah, I know that and I'll do that. But anyways, they shouldn't forget the Arc.
And normal users won't flash other firmwares on their devices, which will make these guys angry
I hope we'll see arconium on official ICS, too
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I find it incredible that someone smart enough to buy and xperia is too stupid too seriously that the other handsets dates haven't moved, they were never first in lime to get them. The only need here is the first batch are delays by a whole 14 days. Not big deal. I'm happy to have news, we should be thanking Sony for keeping us informed rather than *****ing about thingd
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nice april fool prank sony ! i almost fell for it

SOA_Asy said:
I hope sony release ICS ROM with clear bass
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The beta rom(s) had it
squalldua said:
nice april fool prank sony ! i almost fell for it
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I hope so !!
From my sexy LT15i