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Hi, I'm a big fan of the HD2 but in the last two weeks, since i own this device, i'm getting confused by some screen imput behavour that i will present you.
I want to figure out if this "screenbugs" i have to fight with every day, are normal or a hardwaredefect. To make you guys an imagine of what i mean, i uploaded some youtube videos for each bug.
1. The first one i call: The painting edge
This bug is only present if i not have installed the less sensitive CAB from this forum.
Explaination:
Many of you have notice that the glass of the screen doesn't fit exactly in the case of the device. The right bottom of the glass protrude a very little. Then i lightly press on this position, the screen notice a press on the right top...as you can see in notes on my youtube video:
Video 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c49x9vB4bzQ
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Beforce you say...my device doesn't having any of the following bugs, REMEMBER, This bugs are not present every second. Sometimes i can use the device for 30min without having some of this.
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2. The Electrocardiography
This bug, i think could be the reason for the following bugs.
Explaination: Trying to draw a straight line an you think you device will get a heart attack soon.
On the half of my second try you can see how the device suddenly works normal again.
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t54m1dSLnV8
3. The shaking Screen
Explaination:
I have notice that some other guys have this bug too. You can see this on every scrollable screen, like opera, IE, zoomed pictures, the manila tab, startmenu...etc. etc.
Best seen on minute 0:54 in my video.
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hIE_wV4djs
4.The non pressed key
Explaination:
You are cofused about keyboard reaction while writing a text message? You type an "a" and getting a "t"? Than you have "the non pressed key" bug how i call it.
you have to watch on some key input where my finger is totally out of range. I don't mean the fault input next to the key i pressed...
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_B1GiyMp_O4
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There is a fifth bug i didn't get on video yet because it is very rarely.
I had have this bug only 5-6 times since i own this device, but it sucks realy hard.
I call it
5. The self-typing keyboard
Explaination:
Then i'm typing some text sometimes the keyboard begins to typing without having the finger one the touchscreen. it can be have a duration of 5-10 seconds or 20 letters/numbers.
It can also be watched, without keyboardaction. Then the screen scrolls wild in any direction without any finger on screen.
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fdXU8SoPTg from htcracer211
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If someone can tell me if i can embed the youtube videos in this forum...
Go get a replacement, the screen is perfect. Although I admit it does not fit correctly but it is great. I only need the earpiece fix
please watch the videos before you comment anything...
...You're too much electrostatically charged...
...Or something of electrostatic is in the range of your device...
But it's like your touch panel is faulty. Get a replacement (warranty rules)
Have brought it back today...but couldn't get a replacement...no devices
tryed all your test and get no errors on screen, electro worked perfecly, keyboard keeps presing same key without leaving the range, and i cant notice any shaking effect.
So probably your screen is faulty , change your device as fast as you can matte
I have brought it already back, but it seems to be that others have all my listed bugs too. take a look at the poll results. On another forum a guy has tested the "painting edge" on 3 devices after he saw my video and all devices have this bug!!!!
Hey Guys,
I have the first 3 bugs on my HD2, too. But with BSB Tweaks 1.31 i solved the first 2 one by activating the option "Screen Sensitivity".
Hi,
If you look in the sticky thread here somewhere in the LEO section about tweaks and registry changes there is a topic on reducing the sensitivity of the screen.
I think what's happening here is the electric current in your fingers is playing havoc with the screen when your fingers are either close to or on the screen.
Let us know if this helps you.
WB
whow, that's a lot of problems for one device.
I have the "non pressed key issue" : (that's annoying as hell, typing a message is a heavy burden now) and the shakey screen. should i bring my handset back or try the tweaks... I didn't expect this from an 600€ handset
wacky.banana said:
Hi,
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I think what's happening here is the electric current in your fingers is playing havoc with the screen when your fingers are either close to or on the screen.
Let us know if this helps you.
WB
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When i was made this video my finger was always with the same pressure on the touchscreen. It was not close...and not weak on screen...normal pressure. And you can see at the middle of my second try where i'm drawing lines in notes that the screen suddenly works normal.
I also wrote in my first thread, that this bug is not every second present...but then it's present its also the reason for some other input errors, like the "non pressed key" i think.
Quick question: How much pressure do you apply to the display (what is "normal"?)? Scince your display is reacting weird to pressure on the bottom right corner, any pressure might be linked to erroreous behavior. Do the shaking related errors remain when you don't press at allk?
to the OP: what ROM are you on ? have you tried 1.48 ?
I can recommende you to use screenprotector film and install cab for less sensitive.
But even without this all I had not this problem Looks like your sreen very sensitive for electrocharging and not have normal ground contact. This is way to warranty service.
lmao >.< sorry mate but get a replacement NOW!! I've never got these problems, everything works smooth and properly, sorry about that...
do u have a screen protector? i am wondering if the screen protector does anything bad to it...
You have the exact same problems I had when I first got my device, the main concern was the device having its own mind and making random key presses, even without you touching it or even being near it. I got my unit replaced and the new one works like a charm.
I noticed today that MY PERFECT SCREEN starting acting weird !!!! Its jittering !!! Damnnnn !!!!
I'm totally spooked by your video's!!!
I personally never experienced these bugs so I spend the last half our replicating your bugs.
The only thing I noticed was that Electrocardiography but I think you have your finger too flat on the screen (it has a too large surface area) because when I write on the screen as if my finger where a pencil (straight up instead of flat) the screen is working as it should!
I think you must have a faulty device. Perhaps try to flash it with 1.48 if you haven't done that already.
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The only thing I noticed was that Electrocardiography but I think you have your finger too flat on the screen (it has a too large surface area) because when I write on the screen as if my finger where a pencil (straight up instead of flat) the screen is working as it should!
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On iPhone with exactly the same finger it draws almost a precise straight line. This problem comes directly from HD2's screen, not from fingers, weather, humidity and so on.
is there a way to calibrate the screen? sometimes feel the click is not accurate.
no, these screens should not need calibration anyway. If you're talking about the click being off a little on the home screen I have that as well, but it seems to be limited to the Live Wallpapers. If its off by alot you should send it back for replacement.
when i click the dot, sometime the search box pop up. the dot is above the search botton
dot? what dot?
melterx12 said:
dot? what dot?
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I think he means the dots at the bottom of the screen to move from one screen to another on the Home launcher. The dot(s) is/are right above the search button on the bottom right of the screen.
oh, yeah that does not sound normal. try restarting and if the issue persists you mgiht want to consider sending it in.
I've noticed sometimes random touch events happen, I'll touch something, and something else gets activated more than half the screen away.
bofslime said:
I've noticed sometimes random touch events happen, I'll touch something, and something else gets activated more than half the screen away.
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here u go
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/android/thread?tid=04134c63c784258e&hl=en
bofslime said:
I've noticed sometimes random touch events happen, I'll touch something, and something else gets activated more than half the screen away.
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are you sure you aren't touching another part of the screen?
Sometimes the palm of my hand touches the bottom left of the screen and that will cause random touch events.
You need to touch slightly above the dot. Otherwise your finger is very close to the google search soft key.
dwang said:
are you sure you aren't touching another part of the screen?
Sometimes the palm of my hand touches the bottom left of the screen and that will cause random touch events.
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I know for fact that sometimes I DO touch other parts of the screen like with my palm, etc by accident. however there have been cases where this wasn't happening and I still have miss touch events.
Example. I was holding my phone with my fingers in landscape with my left hand, and using only the pointer finger of my right hand to touch something in the middle top of the screen, at which point the phone pulse vibrated and the quick search screen popped up.
I posted to the google link outlining the different events that I have noticed. Multitouch would fix point averaging between somewhere you're accidentally touching and where you intended to touch. This however isn't the only thing going on, as I do believe there is some random strangeness occurring. I never had any such issues with my G1.
bofslime said:
I've noticed sometimes random touch events happen, I'll touch something, and something else gets activated more than half the screen away.
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it happens to me,too, i thought it is caused by my palm touched the edge of the screen when i clicked using finger, but it is not. when i restart the phone, it,s gone.
mattyboy247 said:
I think he means the dots at the bottom of the screen to move from one screen to another on the Home launcher. The dot(s) is/are right above the search button on the bottom right of the screen.
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yes. that's the dot.
I read from another reviewer, he said the sensor of the soft key is located a little above the icon for the key. this may cause the problem.
cuitao said:
yes. that's the dot.
I read from another reviewer, he said the sensor of the soft key is located a little above the icon for the key. this may cause the problem.
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This messes up pretty much everyone I hand my phone to look at/play with. Its fine if you're aware, but it does show a sign of less refinement in a device that would have been nearly 100% free of hardware design flaws.
I feel the same way, especially with the soft-buttons and the "p" key in portrait mode. Last night after walking a bit outside my key-presses were atleast an inch off.....I attributed that to my fingers being a little staticky.
Othertimes my fingers just never work on the screen for a few seconds, rubbing my fingers together fixes this problem.
Something to do with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitive_sensing I guess
I find that sometimes my fingers wrap around the phone and just touch the front edge of the screen while holding it, causing random key presses. I guess I'm still used to holding the wider and less sensitive Touch HD.
Is anyone else having problems with their touch screen?
It will occasionally become unresponsive, and other times will just start 'clicking' repeatedly in random spots.
I find myself having to turn the power off and on (via the button, not a hard power cycle) to fix the issue. Its starting to get annoying.
Anyone else?
Yes, I am getting the same thing but I've found that if I just turn the screen off and then back on it fixes the problem. I don't need to reboot.
You think this would warrant an exchange? or is it just how its going to be?
I've put several hours on mine, but haven't experienced this issue. I don't know, if this happened to me more than once, I probably would exchange it.
It was happening to me all the time. I had to get a screen protector and haven't happened since.
ryoojin83 said:
Is anyone else having problems with their touch screen?
It will occasionally become unresponsive, and other times will just start 'clicking' repeatedly in random spots.
I find myself having to turn the power off and on (via the button, not a hard power cycle) to fix the issue. Its starting to get annoying.
Anyone else?
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gigadigit said:
It was happening to me all the time. I had to get a screen protector and haven't happened since.
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Very good "solution" to what should be an obvious problem. The Nook Color has a *capacitive* touch-screen. If you get "junk/gunk" on the screen, it's gonna cause you issues. I find this to be the case while holding my NC and playing Flight Director for a while. The issue: My hands become sweaty and as a result of the slight film of sweat/oil on the screen, the NC's ability to measure the capacitive changes on the screen (and react appropriately to them) is compromised.
Keep your screen clean and you won't have this issue.
Note: after you wipe the screen down (damp cloth, etc), you will need to click the power button and go the lock screen and then back into the NC before it works right directly after cleaning the screen. The dampness of the cleaning cloth throws up the calibration enough to cause very strange things. My experience with "correcting" this issue tells me that in some way, the NC is recalibrating itself when you go to the lock screen.
johnopsec, this has been my experience as well. After cleaning the screen from finger-jam i don't get the phantom clicks. I also noticed that because I live in a very humid climate (Florida panhandle) there will be a thin moisture layer buildup sometimes and it really helps to wipe this off. I also have an incredible that does not have this problem but it has a screen protector which, I am guessing (and as gigadigit expressed), fixes the problem. Just make sure the screen is clean and dry before applying!
screen response
Also,
If you are holding the side of the case by the screen this throws off the touchscreen, I was having the issue where it would be clicking and multiple letter inputs when typing.
Also when it is laying flat and you have the power cord plugged in you may get multi letter inputs.
The trick, hold it by the back not the sides.
and if you have it plugged in and need to type don't leave it laying flat.
I have experienced this problem and loosely seen it correlated with moist fingers.
no moist fingers here and on my 2nd nc. this ones starting to have the ghost touches too.
My Nook Color started acting up after paying levels 3-4 to 3-6 of Angry Birds. I'm not sure if Angry Birds caused the issue or not as I haven't gotten it to do it in another app. I'm running 1.4.2. Doing a lock and unlock fixes the problem until it returns.
I managed to get Phone Tester to run after it got into this state. I made a video of it using a crappy webcam. There's a stuck finger in the corner.
youtube.com/watch?v=OdcVG-Q8LS4
Touch Screen issues while unit is plugged in..
It seems I have read on some forums that some people have screen issues.
Personally I didn't experience this until I tried to use my NC while plugged into it's wall charger.. It seems to act as if it has a grounding issue, which is not the case when the unit is unplugged.
So when you are running your multitouch or touch tests, do it without the unit plugged in..
-CC
I have had the same problem with my touch screen. I have the nexus live wallpaper and whenever you touch the screen it sends off the animation. Well sometimes it just goes non stop and sometimes opens up the window where you can apply a widget. I guess the most practical solution would be a screen protector but if not ill restore it and send it off to B&N
There's a small little app in the market named "Nook Screen Recalibrate" this app is super simple and easy to use. I hope this helps
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.assid.android.nookrecalibrate&feature=search_result
Here is the issue I have...
Right is the N button side. Just a reference point for this.
Reboot the Nook (I use CM7).
Bring up the keyboard
Touch Q in the center - you get W.
Touch Q on the right - you get W
Touch Q on the left - might get Q but you usually get W.
Recalibrate using the Nook Screen Calibration (above).
Q now gives Q unless you press on the right side of the key. I also notice I still have to hit the back arrow more to the left or I bring up the keyboard.
I've learned to live with it, but the left side of the touchscreen is slightly off and you have to touch to the left side of any object on the last 1".
Awats said:
Here is the issue I have...
Reboot the Nook (I use CM7).
Bring up the keyboard
Touch Q in the center - you get W.
Touch Q on the right - you get W
Touch Q on the left - might get Q but you usually get W.
Recalibrate using the Nook Screen Calibration (above).
Q now gives Q unless you press on the right side of the key. I also notice I still have to hit the back arrow more to the left or I bring up the keyboard.
I've learned to live with it, but the left side of the touchscreen is slightly off and you have to touch to the left side of any object on the last 1".
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yeah, for me it's the edge of the screen along the right side. it's less sensitive then the rest of the screen. I found that calibrating 2-3 times really works best.
There's also a fix in the nookwiki, but i can't get my adb to work on my laptop, I think its the drivers.
http://nookdevs.com/Recalibrate_the_NookColor_touch_screen
What is the left and right side?
I should have said that left is the side opposite the N button.
I downloaded Multi-Touch Screen from the market and I can see part of the problem is the angle of my finger. Straight on it's better.
Nook Color Touch Screen Problem
Having similar problem as described, after two years. Extended warranty expired ... two weeks ago (of course).
Tried cleaning screen, no help. Have not tried screen saver yet, but will.
In the meantime, I notice the comments about touching the sides, and I noted that as well.
Is it possible that this could be helped by opening it up and re-seating the case? Has anybody tried this?
So I've been getting ghost or phantom touches on my phone for the past few weeks. I couldn't figure out what was causing it because I've never dropped my phone and it never got wet. The phantom touches only appears down the right side of the screen in almost a straight line. It doesn't happen all the time and I thought it was random but I got it to occur at a successful rate. If I press down on the top left corner of the screen, it would cause the phantom touches. When I press and hold down the top left corner of the phone, everything is fine and no phantom touches appear. I decided to tighten the screws on the top left and it seems to have made it a little better. I'd have to really tap on the top left of the screen to make the phantom touches appear again and it doesn't occur at a 100% rate but it's still occurs.
Anyone know what is causing this? I thought it would be a broken digitizer but it doesn't make sense that tightening the screws would cause the issue to almost fix itself. Problem with the geomangnet? I'm not sure what that does really.
Download and run a multitouch testing app of good reputation:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...ltiTouchTester
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...touchpro.tests
Google Android Debugger - Show Touch Points:
SETTINGS
ABOUT PHONE
Touch BUILD NUMBER ten times
go back one screen
DEVELOPER OPTIONS
check SHOW TOUCHES
Download this image to your phone and open it: http://vodly.to/content/avatars/917b...e96ca61f06.png
Put 2 (or more) fingers on the screen of your Note 3 in a horizontal line in landscape mode. You can also use Portrait mode with 2 fingers.
Move the fingers slightly about, trying to have both (all) in a straight horizontal line.
After only a bit of trying one (or more) detected fingers should disappear (become undetected) or ghost touch detections should appear.
M4GEN28 said:
Download and run a multitouch testing app of good reputation:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...ltiTouchTester
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...touchpro.tests
Google Android Debugger - Show Touch Points:
SETTINGS
ABOUT PHONE
Touch BUILD NUMBER ten times
go back one screen
DEVELOPER OPTIONS
check SHOW TOUCHES
Download this image to your phone and open it: http://vodly.to/content/avatars/917b...e96ca61f06.png
Put 2 (or more) fingers on the screen of your Note 3 in a horizontal line in landscape mode. You can also use Portrait mode with 2 fingers.
Move the fingers slightly about, trying to have both (all) in a straight horizontal line.
After only a bit of trying one (or more) detected fingers should disappear (become undetected) or ghost touch detections should appear.
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Thank you for the help and suggestion but I've already tried this. My touch screen is fine in terms of detection. I can put 10 fingers on the screen and it would recognize all 10 fingers. My issue has something to do with the top left corner of the screen affecting the right side of the screen. Like something is loose. When I clamp down on the left corner of the phone, everything works fine. No ghost touches (that sounds dirty) or any of the sort. When I let go of the top left corner, I will some times get ghost touches.
WillofWillz said:
Thank you for the help and suggestion but I've already tried this. My touch screen is fine in terms of detection. I can put 10 fingers on the screen and it would recognize all 10 fingers. My issue has something to do with the top left corner of the screen affecting the right side of the screen. Like something is loose. When I clamp down on the left corner of the phone, everything works fine. No ghost touches (that sounds dirty) or any of the sort. When I let go of the top left corner, I will some times get ghost touches.
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try downloading another firmware and revet back to stock rom that il do are you on custom rom?
BTW Don't forget to thanks me
M4GEN28 said:
try downloading another firmware and revet back to stock rom that il do are you on custom rom?
BTW Don't forget to thanks me
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It's not a firmware issue. It's definitely a hardware issue since it starts tapping on buttons inside TWRP recovery. Ah well, I tighten the screws even more and it looks like the phantom touches are gone. Hopefully it stays that way even though I destroyed a screw in the process. Those tiny things are fragile.
if the touch ghost click is in some certain location most because of pollution (mainly chemical), best is use ISO alcohol also use a very tinny sharp blade, like a very thin one and slightly go along side the place that does this, sometimes you have to try both horizontal and vertical, then clean with ISO, do a few times it does alright. it does work on most of touch screen include note 3 as well. I've been in IT and fixing all electronic for last 30 years in New Zealand. if you had problem text me on 021 548484
Hi
I am using lenovo Z2 plus an have been encountering problem with touch not working. The touch works for 1 second after unlocking the phone and then stops automatically. I have tried resetting the phone, installing new custom roms but in all cases touch works for some time after unlocking and then stops working. Any suggestions on what to do?
Hey guys, is there anyone who can suggest me what to do? Would really appreciate some help
I guess touch display is broken. I had the same problem after a slight drop. Screen was perfectly ok but touch was broken. I replaced the whole screen since it was easier method
Aayush96+ said:
Hey guys, is there anyone who can suggest me what to do? Would really appreciate some help
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I'm facing the same problem right now.
Is it working for you now? Help me fix this.
I had same problem. I found a temporary solution some where-
1. Lock phone screen.
2. Put your right thumb anywhere on screen and keep it there.
3. Now unlock your screen with right hand fingers, dont lift your left thumb from screen.
4. As long as your left thumb is on screen, it will respond normally, it ayou lift your left thumb, screen will freeze and you have to repeat all avobe steps.
I know this is very annoying, but something is better than nothing.
Well my phone screen touch worked normally itself within 1 month without any repair.
piyush_roy_1 said:
I had same problem. I found a temporary solution some where-
1. Lock phone screen.
2. Put your right thumb anywhere on screen and keep it there.
3. Now unlock your screen with right hand fingers, dont lift your left thumb from screen.
4. As long as your left thumb is on screen, it will respond normally, it ayou lift your left thumb, screen will freeze and you have to repeat all avobe steps.
I know this is very annoying, but something is better than nothing.
Well my phone screen touch worked normally itself within 1 month without any repair.
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I'm not facing this problem anymore. But, touch doesn't work on top of the screen.
I did whatever you told, yet it doesn't work. Is there a solution for this?