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As per android Centrals Findings today,
According to the memo, the data tiers for 4G are the same as the 3G plans, namely $15 for each 200 MB or 2 GB for $25.00 (with $10 per GB overage). This means unlimited data in no longer an option, because you will have to change plans. We have no idea how this will affect customers with unlimited data grandfathered in who buy a phone off-contract and just drop their SIM card in, but I would imagine AT&T can tell with a little bit of auditing.
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http://www.androidcentral.com/atts-4g-policies-revealed?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+androidcentral+%28Android+Central%29&utm_content=Twitter
Nevermind, corrected
We can keep our existing plans and be grandfathered in.
Originally Posted by corneliusm
You get to keep your unlimited plan after all..
http://www.androidcentral.com/att-cl...heir-4g-policy
Lol @ AT&T. Instead of attracting customers after losing the iPhone, they scare off existing ones. First $500 for Atrix dock, now the stupidly overprives $25/2GB data.
And that after the first Atrix reviews that showed that AT&T's "4G" is actually slower than their 3G. Oh yeah, awesome upgrade.
Rephrasing the famous phrase.. "Enough is enough. I've HAD IT with these MOTHERF***ING policies on this MOTHERF***ING AT&T."
So far it's either VZW or TMo for me. Since I travel a lot, most likely TMo with their unlim data plan, when Pyramid comes out.
i've been in contact with at&t.
they have stated that i can bring my grandfathered unlimited data plan over along with a new 2 year contact agreement if i decide to get the atrix.
if i want to tether, i would need to change my data plan.
this is from an online chat. and who knows, maybe this policy will change in the upcoming days.
i have seen this mentioned on a number of other forums. apparently grandfathered plans are fine.
so nothing really changes...
Androidandme is reporting (I'd link directly, but can't do it yet) that an AT&T rep has contacted them to clarify the 4G policy:
We were just contacted by a representative from AT&T who saw our post about the leaked 4G policy memo, and wanted to clarify a very important point about their new 4G plans. I quote:
Customers who currently have an unlimited plan can upgrade to a 4G device and keep their unlimited plans.
They did not dispute the validity of the leaked memo, but they were kind enough to tell us a part of the story that the original leak missed. So put away those pitchforks. Thanks for the clarification AT&T!
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So, yeah: no need to panic.
I wasn't lucky enough to be grandfathered into the unlimited plan. I currently have the $15 200mb for my Samsung Captivate. Assuming I upgrade to the Atrix, am I going to have to pay an additional $15 to get 200mb of 4g, making the total for data $30 for 400mbs?
Battleship said:
Androidandme is reporting (I'd link directly, but can't do it yet) that an AT&T rep has contacted them to clarify the 4G policy:
So, yeah: no need to panic.
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Thats if you had the unlimited data before, not all of us do...
degenerazn said:
I wasn't lucky enough to be grandfathered into the unlimited plan. I currently have the $15 200mb for my Samsung Captivate. Assuming I upgrade to the Atrix, am I going to have to pay an additional $15 to get 200mb of 4g, making the total for data $30 for 400mbs?
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No. Your plan will remain unchanged.
dreadlord369 said:
Thats if you had the unlimited data before, not all of us do...
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Right you are. Unfortunately, AT&T eliminated the unlimited plan a long time ago; really, I'm surprised the new 4G policy isn't going to kick out everyone who still has it.
If I didn't have unlimited data or couldn't keep it there is no way in hell I would buy the Atrix.
Appears we may have jumped the gun...
You get to keep your unlimited plan after all..
http://www.androidcentral.com/att-clarifies-their-4g-policy
corneliusm said:
You get to keep your unlimited plan after all..
http://www.androidcentral.com/att-clarifies-their-4g-policy
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Yeah saw this on my twitter at the gym, was gonna update it but you beat me to it.
smitty1 said:
If I didn't have unlimited data or couldn't keep it there is no way in hell I would buy the Atrix.
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I couldn't agree more! I'm so glad that I overpaid for unlimited back when I didn't use much data. Still, $90/mo for two lines of unlimited data and unlimited messaging is a lot, so glad that AT&T announced unlimited mobile to mobile so I can drop my minutes!
I'm never leaving AT&T until another carrier gets real unlimited data. Good things cell execs underestimated how much data we can use!
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No. Your plan will remain unchanged.
Right you are. Unfortunately, AT&T eliminated the unlimited plan a long time ago; really, I'm surprised the new 4G policy isn't going to kick out everyone who still has it.
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I've been grandfathered in on the unlimited plan for quite some time now. When I got my Captivate last July, the sales rep tried to convince me I HAD to change my data plan to the new pricing scheme. Thankfully, it ain't happen.
Even if you went somewhere else, almost all the operators are moving to this type of plan.
2Gigs of data is quite alot, unless you are using it for your main internet connection for your house. I've been on the 2Gig plan for about a year now, and I rarely go above 600-700 meg with lots of audio streaming (sirius/xm, pandora) and Uverse TV to go, and some tethering from time to time.
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If I didn't have unlimited data or couldn't keep it there is no way in hell I would buy the Atrix.
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werd
i was ready to pay ETF and get the F out of ATT after i saw the original leaked memo
Squeak22 said:
Even if you went somewhere else, almost all the operators are moving to this type of plan.
2Gigs of data is quite alot, unless you are using it for your main internet connection for your house. I've been on the 2Gig plan for about a year now, and I rarely go above 600-700 meg with lots of audio streaming (sirius/xm, pandora) and Uverse TV to go, and some tethering from time to time.
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t-mobile & verizon throttles you, you can get around it on t mobile
sprint is still unlimited
2GB is not alot, how you use it is your problem, while the rest of us that has the unlimited, pay *more* ($30 vs $25) and being loyal to ATT, we want to get what we are ENTITLED to
Does "an unlimited plan" refer to a smart phone unlimited or any unlimited?
Because, I have a regular unlimited plan for $10 a month, and would like to keep it lol.
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Does "an unlimited plan" refer to a smart phone unlimited or any unlimited?
Because, I have a regular unlimited plan for $10 a month, and would like to keep it lol.
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Negative. Featurephone/dumbphone unlimited data doesn't transfer over to smartphones. The only way I could see to get around that is to buy a phone off contract and pop your SIM card in it. You'd probably have to hack the phone to have it report as something else, though, otherwise ATT would catch it.
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When T-mobile's HTC Pyramid is out....I'll defiantly switch to T-mobile!!!!
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Negative. Featurephone/dumbphone unlimited data doesn't transfer over to smartphones. The only way I could see to get around that is to buy a phone off contract and pop your SIM card in it. You'd probably have to hack the phone to have it report as something else, though, otherwise ATT would catch it.
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you can buy a phone not in att device databse and they will not know unless you tell them that is any decice that they dont sell
I had an iPhone4 before I got my atrix and I had unlimited data on my iphone, so I bought my atrix without a contract in order to keep that data plan. I received the following text message this morning:
Did you know an eligible data plan is required for your 4G smartphone? Pls call 611 to select a plan and establish your 4g data connection today
Right now i am beyond angry because it seems like they are just trying to take away my unlimited data. The reason I say this is because the iPhone 4 does the handshaking to get true HSUPA and my phone does not. Therefore I am paying for a plan with a service that doesnt even exist, where my original plan (for the iphone 4) actually covers HSUPA. Does anyone know a way around this? I definitely dont want to lose my unlimited data. Is there anyway to get out of my contract? I would just as soon switch carriers before giving into paying for a crappy data plan (no offense to anyone who has the plan, you just didnt have the option ) on a crappy carrier.
Thanks for the help in advance.
go on their website att.com
you can actually select an unlimited 4g plan i m pretty sure
pick it and report back
I switched from iPhone unlimited to Android unlimited - they will let you do that. But you will not get HSUPA until the phone is updated.
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You will not get HSUPA until the phone is updated.
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by motorola, att has nothing to do with it
They don't want the unlimited plans out there. The are going to force all non I-phone users to go to tiered plans. Once they take it off, you will not be able to get them to give it back either. If you don't go with the tiered plan, when u use the non iphone device, they will throttle your throughput at 2 gb. It is a horrible decrease in speed. Still have unlimited, only it is extremely frustrating when you hit the 2 gb limit. Remeber, in AT&T's eyes, it's not about you.
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They don't want the unlimited plans out there. The are going to force all non I-phone users to go to tiered plans. Once they take it off, you will not be able to get them to give it back either. If you don't go with the tiered plan, when u use the non iphone device, they will throttle your throughput at 2 gb. It is a horrible decrease in speed. Still have unlimited, only it is extremely frustrating when you hit the 2 gb limit. Remeber, in AT&T's eyes, it's not about you.
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Yeah, it almost makes me want to switch to a tiered plan and just pay the $10 for an extra GB if I need it and avoid the throttling. It's quite frustrating. Makes me really want to switch to Sprint.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/12/sprints-dan-hesse-differentiates-between-unlimited-and-unlimit/
http://androidcommunity.com/motorola-atrix-xoom-headed-to-sprint-with-wimax-4g-rumor-20110317/
They will grandfather you into the unlimited plan.. you didn't have to buy off contract to so that...
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They don't want the unlimited plans out there. The are going to force all non I-phone users to go to tiered plans. Once they take it off, you will not be able to get them to give it back either. If you don't go with the tiered plan, when u use the non iphone device, they will throttle your throughput at 2 gb. It is a horrible decrease in speed. Still have unlimited, only it is extremely frustrating when you hit the 2 gb limit. Remeber, in AT&T's eyes, it's not about you.
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proof?
I've been using my old iPhone unlimited data plan since last year when I picked up the Nexus One. I am still using my unlimited data plan with my Motorola Atrix. My speeds aren't throttled (except HSUPA which is NOT due to me being on an unlimited plan) and I have gone above 2GB several times since switching to Android and have not been charged for it, penalized, or had my speeds throttled.
OP: AT&T will let you keep your unlimited iPhone data plan for your Atrix. I have it, many others on this forum have it.
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proof?
I've been using my old iPhone unlimited data plan since last year when I picked up the Nexus One. I am still using my unlimited data plan with my Motorola Atrix. My speeds aren't throttled (except HSUPA which is NOT due to me being on an unlimited plan) and I have gone above 2GB several times since switching to Android and have not been charged for it, penalized, or had my speeds throttled.
OP: AT&T will let you keep your unlimited iPhone data plan for your Atrix. I have it, many others on this forum have it.
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some crazy dudes with an iphone was pulling 90gb/ month
a little much if u ask me ....
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1119791
it's most likely because you didn't switch your current data plan to a non-iphone smartphone plan. they are different plans in the way that they handle data. you can keep your unlimited when switching across data plan types (i.e. i went from BB data plan to regular smartphone unlimited). but since you didn't switch it over, they flagged you since your IMEI gives up that you are no longer using an iPhone.
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My speeds aren't throttled (except HSUPA which is NOT due to me being on an unlimited plan) and I have gone above 2GB several times since switching to Android and have not been charged for it, penalized, or had my speeds throttled.
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The cap for unlimited is 5GB, not 2GB.
like others have said they will switch you to an unlimited non iphone data plan. same thing happened to me. the rep said "oh we dont offer the unlimited plan anymore" I told her that I should be grandfathered in since I had the unlimited plan before, she put me on hold, then 5 min later she came back and said i was right and put me on the unlimited non iphone plan
dLo GSR said:
it's most likely because you didn't switch your current data plan to a non-iphone smartphone plan. they are different plans in the way that they handle data. you can keep your unlimited when switching across data plan types (i.e. i went from BB data plan to regular smartphone unlimited). but since you didn't switch it over, they flagged you since your IMEI gives up that you are no longer using an iPhone.
The cap for unlimited is 5GB, not 2GB.
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like others have said they will switch you to an unlimited non iphone data plan. same thing happened to me. the rep said "oh we dont offer the unlimited plan anymore" I told her that I should be grandfathered in since I had the unlimited plan before, she put me on hold, then 5 min later she came back and said i was right and put me on the unlimited non iphone plan
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I'm sorry but I keep laughing about this. It's just funny it is being referred to as "non-iphone plan".
That should be Apple's new slogan:
"Because if you don't have an iPhone, you have a non-iPhone"
I have unlimited...
When I went to the AT&T store last week to get my Atrix, I specifically asked them if we would have to get a new plan for 4G, or could we keep our grandfathered unlimited plan from my iPhone. She told me there was no extra charge, and gave me a 4G sim card to boot! I am not in a 4G area, so I won't know if I will get charged or not, but the store rep told me that even if I used 4G, I wouldn't have to pay any other extra fees.
Unlimited data plans are also for 3g ONLY! Not sure if that was mentioned. If you lucky enough to live in an area where H+ is live you have to go to the 2gb or 4gb data plan to get those speeds, which right now are barely faster than 3g download and the upload is horrible.
You also didnt have to buy the phone out of contract. I bought mine with my upgrade for $200 and was grand fathered over too my 3g data plan which is called the Smart phone unlimited.
Verizon with there 17-20mb download on there LTE network is looking pretty good now. But thats still not even live in my area so it doesnt madder.
live4nyy said:
I'm sorry but I keep laughing about this. It's just funny it is being referred to as "non-iphone plan".
That should be Apple's new slogan:
"Because if you don't have an iPhone, you have a non-iPhone"
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Well the OP stated that he had an iPhone before. If he had a BB before, I would have said a "non-BB data plan".
JayRolla said:
Unlimited data plans are also for 3g ONLY! Not sure if that was mentioned. If you lucky enough to live in an area where H+ is live you have to go to the 2gb or 4gb data plan to get those speeds, which right now are barely faster than 3g download and the upload is horrible.
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Well that's just not true at all.
JayRolla said:
Unlimited data plans are also for 3g ONLY! Not sure if that was mentioned. If you lucky enough to live in an area where H+ is live you have to go to the 2gb or 4gb data plan to get those speeds, which right now are barely faster than 3g download and the upload is horrible.
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You're in incorrect in that. Its unlimited regardless of network connection speed...
Try again...
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I went to. Costco and the Guy there kept me on my unlimited plan. I even called att to make sure and the Rep put me on hold so she could talk to the manager and they said I'm allowed to grandfather my plan.
If you guys are having trouble, ask the Rep to talk to the manager.
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proof?
I've been using my old iPhone unlimited data plan since last year when I picked up the Nexus One. I am still using my unlimited data plan with my Motorola Atrix. My speeds aren't throttled (except HSUPA which is NOT due to me being on an unlimited plan) and I have gone above 2GB several times since switching to Android and have not been charged for it, penalized, or had my speeds throttled.
OP: AT&T will let you keep your unlimited iPhone data plan for your Atrix. I have it, many others on this forum have it.
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What he said! I switched from unlimited with iPhone 4 and have unlimited 4G data now on Atrix. They tried to tell me I had to pick one of their teired data plans and I said thanks but no thanks give me my grandfathered unlimited and they did.
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When I went to the AT&T store last week to get my Atrix, I specifically asked them if we would have to get a new plan for 4G, or could we keep our grandfathered unlimited plan from my iPhone. She told me there was no extra charge, and gave me a 4G sim card to boot! I am not in a 4G area, so I won't know if I will get charged or not, but the store rep told me that even if I used 4G, I wouldn't have to pay any other extra fees.
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I have no idea what that "4G" sim is going to do for you considering it won't be needed until AT&T rolls out LTE. The so-called "4G" that the Atrix uses (HSDPA+) is still a 3G technology and 3G sim cards work on it.
I just checked my bill and it says that my current data and messaging plan is set to expire on 04/07/2011. I can get a Smartphone Unlimited data and 1500 messaging for the same price. Haven't made any change yet. Will call AT&T Monday and see what happens.
if this true, i know alot of people will be leaving sprint. but it doesn't make sense, still unlimited data is the only reason to be with sprint. hopefully will be grandfather in and still have all the data we can eat.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Spri...E-could-lead-to-end-of-unlimited-data_id24120
tkeyes said:
if this true, i know alot of people will be leaving sprint. but it doesn't make sense, still unlimited data is the only reason to be with sprint. hopefully will be grandfather in and still have all the data we can eat.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Spri...E-could-lead-to-end-of-unlimited-data_id24120
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You can never be grandfathered in. When you upgrade your phone to LTE and sign a new contract it will have any new restrictions and price changes. Hopefully it will not happen but if it does they will still need to be cheaper than the competitors or their coverage issues will cause people to switch.
You can possibly just buy the phone at full price and keep your plan. Not sure how they are gonna handle the LTE guess we may find out in Jan.
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You can possibly just buy the phone at full price and keep your plan. Not sure how they are gonna handle the LTE guess we may find out in Jan.
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Yes until your contract runs out and then they are free to change your plan or you sign a new contract with the new plan. If you upgrade riiiiiiighhhht before they change the plans then you can get almost 2 years out of it but doubt they would activate LTE and start selling LTE phones without the rates in place.
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Yes until your contract runs out and then they are free to change your plan or you sign a new contract with the new plan. If you upgrade riiiiiiighhhht before they change the plans then you can get almost 2 years out of it but doubt they would activate LTE and start selling LTE phones without the rates in place.
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that's incorrect, thats what should be the case, but its not ask anyone that had or has an data card, wifi hotspot with sprint. one day it was unlimited data the next day it wasnt. i was still under contract till next year.
tkeyes said:
that's incorrect, thats what should be the case, but its not ask anyone that had or has an data card, wifi hotspot with sprint. one day it was unlimited data the next day it wasnt. i was still under contract till next year.
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Ouch, that is worse. But doesn't it actually say unlimited data in our contract? Then that would get you out of an ETF anyway.
I don't think Sprint will get rid of unlimited data. Sprint has been advertising unlimited data for months and it is definitely a customer catcher, I mean just look at their latest commercial.
Them upgrading to LTE would simply make it even better .
Wild speculation from a no-name idiot "analyst". Did he even bother to read the executive summary of the Network Vision strategy update webcast?
k0nane said:
Wild speculation from a no-name idiot "analyst". Did he even bother to read the executive summary of the Network Vision strategy update webcast?
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Great post.
Let's face it, a lot of these "analyst" are just giving random thoughts based on speculation. We won't know until we get an official word, but I seriously doubt that sprint will be cutting unlimited.
Sprint has already officially said their network is handling all of it's users and not being stressed, especially with the iPhone not even touching the current 4G network, let alone LTE.
HanMan5000 said:
Great post.
Let's face it, a lot of these "analyst" are just giving random thoughts based on speculation. We won't know until we get an official word, but I seriously doubt that sprint will be cutting unlimited.
Sprint has already officially said their network is handling all of it's users and not being stressed, especially with the iPhone not even touching the current 4G network, let alone LTE.
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Sprint has promised to stay unlimited, maybe they'll throttle, but looking at their advertising campaign they better not or else they'll look like hypocrites.... Besides, if Sprint doesn't have unlimited, what's there to stay for? Nothing, and they know it.
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Ouch, that is worse. But doesn't it actually say unlimited data in our contract? Then that would get you out of an ETF anyway.
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maybe i talked to the wrong 3 ppl, it was $80 to get out of it, oh well. the crazy thing is that my clear internet is better then sprint. arent they using the same network.
the "analyst" and we doing the same thing just guessing, till sprint says their plans.
Will we ever get 4g for the EVO lol Dont think its fair Sprint makes us pay an extra 10 for 4g but we never even got 4g 3 years later...
Sprint redefined the $10 surcharge to mean "Premium Data." If I'm not mistaken, all Android smartphones (whether or not they have WiMax/LTE) have to pay this $10 fee.
In the beg it was only for the evo 4g most likely bc of the 4g data...if hte evo is not faster than any other phone since its only 3g then why extra 10 dollar charge...
For the amount of data it uses
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I just saw on sprint website there is no 4g service even in Lousiana?! But why tout the FIRST EVER 4G phone the evo & then never even have 4 G for it?!!?
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Dude the phones 2 years old why are u crying now, smh some ppl are just clueless
Plus if you read the fine print it says where 4g is available, not available in all areas and etc learn to read and get back in your time machine get outta summer 2010 and come back to the real world
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Right on dude. Also here in nc we have 4g all over
lol thanx RadDudeTommy Im not crying just trying to get info on wether they plan to get 4G for it...lol
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evoer said:
Right on dude. Also here in nc we have 4g all over
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Almost...I'm in Wake Forest NC (just outside of Raleigh and I don't get 4g coverage at all but I get it everywhere else I go lol
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Hey,
like a previous post states the $10 charge is for premium data, and it applies to smart phones that do not have 4g as well as those that do. That being said Wimax technology is what your 4g is based on and sprint is going to be switching to a 4g LTE network, and sadly ditching wimax. Lte is just going to be better for the future, so sadly if you do not have 4g not you most likely will not be getting it.
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Amen brother!
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In the beginning it was indeed a 4G charge that was only applied on 4G phones, with the Evo being the only 4G phone at the time.
At that same time they introduced the SERO-P plans so that anyone on Sero could not get an android device. SERO-P was $10 more than SERO. If you had a SERO-P plan you had to pay another $10 to have a 4G device on your SERO-P plan. At that time they were openly telling customers it was a 4G fee. Well, it was quickly discovered that 4G wasn't and wouldn't be everywhere, and as a result Evo SERO-P customers started complaining that they were being forced to pay for a service they weren't getting (4G in their area) simply because they wanted a better (and more expensive phone). As a result of this, Sprint quickly changed it from a "4G fee" to a "premium data fee", yet for SERO customers, it was only applied to 4G devices. Then a year later it was determined that all new android devices would also have to pay for premium data, which is where we are now.
When I got my Evo I was in this boat -- I had to pay an extra $10 for a service I wasn't getting. So, I complained to Sprint and they told me in writing in two separate instances that "there would be 4G everywhere by the end of 2010." well, here we are in 2012, and still no 4G in my area. If they hadn't lied to me, I wouldn't have bought the device I did.
I did figure out a way to not pay the 4G fee, so I only pay $40 a month for my plan. It takes a bit of creativity, but saving $120 a year for a service I'll never get makes it worthwhile for me.
Thank you D.O.C & indagroove I respect both of you & your responses. All I was looking for was stevovanburen & indagrooves responses.
I dont agree with the premium data statement I think Indagrooves hit the nail on the head & it went the way he said. I had both a blackberry & HTC hero b4 my EVO 4g. On both you can get fast 3g service but no 4g however, I was not charged a 10 dollar fee for those but once I got the EVO 4g I started getting charged an extra 10...obviously to upkeep 4g. BTW when is 4g LTE network going to start up & what phones are going to support it? Will it be extra or just the 10$ ?
Pivo187 said:
Thank you D.O.C & indagroove I respect both of you & your responses. All I was looking for was stevovanburen & indagrooves responses.
I dont agree with the premium data statement I think Indagrooves hit the nail on the head & it went the way he said. I had both a blackberry & HTC hero b4 my EVO 4g. On both you can get fast 3g service but no 4g however, I was not charged a 10 dollar fee for those but once I got the EVO 4g I started getting charged an extra 10...obviously to upkeep 4g. BTW when is 4g LTE network going to start up & what phones are going to support it? Will it be extra or just the 10$ ?
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Sprint and Clearwire are already in the process of converting the WiMAX towers to LTE. The process is also not as time consuming, and I'm sure if you don't have 4G service in your area, you will soon. Or you can write Sprint an e-mail asking for them to consider your area. They will have about 15 LTE equipped phones and other devices coming out Q2-Q3 2012. So far pricing has not been announced, but I do not think prices would increase much.
Umm... Sprint was SUPPOSED to have LTE partnerships with a few companies to make the rollout as quickly as possible. But since LightSquared got shot down by the FCC..
And we see how fast clearwire was able to rollout wimax.
It's going to be a few years before Sprint has coast to coast 4G LTE coverage.
And to the OP, if you don't have 4g now, you will never have it on your EVO. They are not building any more WiMAX towers, and the Evo will not support LTE. None of the current Sprint phones will support LTE.
indagroove said:
In the beginning it was indeed a 4G charge that was only applied on 4G phones, with the Evo being the only 4G phone at the time.
At that same time they introduced the SERO-P plans so that anyone on Sero could not get an android device. SERO-P was $10 more than SERO. If you had a SERO-P plan you had to pay another $10 to have a 4G device on your SERO-P plan. At that time they were openly telling customers it was a 4G fee. Well, it was quickly discovered that 4G wasn't and wouldn't be everywhere, and as a result Evo SERO-P customers started complaining that they were being forced to pay for a service they weren't getting (4G in their area) simply because they wanted a better (and more expensive phone). As a result of this, Sprint quickly changed it from a "4G fee" to a "premium data fee", yet for SERO customers, it was only applied to 4G devices. Then a year later it was determined that all new android devices would also have to pay for premium data, which is where we are now.
When I got my Evo I was in this boat -- I had to pay an extra $10 for a service I wasn't getting. So, I complained to Sprint and they told me in writing in two separate instances that "there would be 4G everywhere by the end of 2010." well, here we are in 2012, and still no 4G in my area. If they hadn't lied to me, I wouldn't have bought the device I did.
I did figure out a way to not pay the 4G fee, so I only pay $40 a month for my plan. It takes a bit of creativity, but saving $120 a year for a service I'll never get makes it worthwhile for me.
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How you pay $40 a month?
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To make an EXTREMELY long story short, sprints connection is bipolar and ****ty. Im in the middle of a city and have no 4G. 2/4 of NYC has no 4G. Yet the middle of no where has 4G.. Sprint=very bad at radio tower set up.
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swagstr said:
How you pay $40 a month?
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and what he said.. Firstly i pay like $160 a month for only 4 phones.. technically its 60 or 70 a month for unlimited texting and data and like 1200 minutes, and to add another line is 10 more $.. how the f am i paying 160??? ima call sprint
swagstr said:
How you pay $40 a month?
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PM me if you really wanna know.
I mean, it does suck that a lot of areas still don't have 4G. I know my town still doesn't. But I do know that I am getting equal, if not better speed and coverage, with better CS than I did on Verizon.
And my plan is still cheaper with the $10 fee.
It sucks, but I come out on top
Hopefully they figured out the situation from their past with WiMax, and will start to improve it this year.
To me, this has been a year of learning for Sprint. No 4G in a lot of cities, so dedicating the resources needed to start fresh and try to give their customers another chance. Debuting the GNex in a timely manner, unlike it's U.S. debut. Not backing down about their unlimited data, when almost every other carrier seems to be doing just that, because they know that's what people are asking for, and that's their trump card. For now at least.
I would say that the launch of one of the most talked about Android devices launching on their network with their revised 4G should light a fire under their asses. Or you will see customers turning on them.
I can guarantee you that.
yuck
Verizon Wireless (NYSE:VZ) plans to eliminate the $30 per month unlimited data plan that it still provides to 3G customers who were "grandfathered" into the plan because they were data customers prior to the company's switch to tiered data pricing last July. Speaking at the 40th J.P. Morgan Technology, Media and Telecom conference, Verizon Communications CFO Fran Shammo said that as these 3G unlimited data plan customers migrate to 4G LTE, they will have to purchase the company's data-share plan (which Verizon plans to launch in mid-summer) and move off the $30 per month unlimited data plan. "Everyone will be on data share," Shammo said.
Verizon's data share plan is scheduled to launch in mid-summer but no pricing details have been announced. Shammo said that he believes this new plan will make it easier for families and small businesses to connect multiple devices. The industry, Shammo said, has constrained the market around connected devices because people think they need an additional data plan. "If I can add as many devices as I want, that is more efficient from a family perspective and a small business perspective," he said.
However, Shammo said that with the launch of this new data share plan, the industry will have to change a key metric--average revenue per user. Shammo said that Verizon will move to a "revenue per account" metric that will more accurately measure the company's business.
When asked how Verizon will drive customers to this new data share plan, Shammo said that LTE will be the anchor for the new plan and that as customers upgrade from 3G to LTE, they will have to be on a data share plan, allowing the company to sunset its unlimited 3G data plan. "A lot of our 3G base is on unlimited," Shammo said. "When they migrate off 3G they will have to go to data share. That is beneficial to us."
Read more: Verizon will kill 'grandfathered' unlimited data plans, push users to data share - FierceWireless http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/...are/2012-05-16
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May 17th update from Verizon
Yesterday, Verizon Wireless CMO Fran Shammo caused quite a ruckus when he stated that users on grandfathered unlimited data plans would eventually be moved over to the carrier's new data share plans that are due to arrive this summer. Verizon has now clarified exactly how this will happen, and it really only matters if plan to get a new subsidized device.
In a statement provided to The New York Times, Verizon clarified that unlimited plans will no longer be an option for customers that upgrade their device once the new data share plans are available. Prior to this, customers that had unlimited data plans were able to continue to use them even if they upgraded their devices.
The full statement is as follows:
"- Customers will not be automatically moved to new shared data plans. If a 3G or 4G smartphone customer is on an unlimited plan now and they do not want to change their plan, they will not have to do so.
- When we introduce our new shared data plans, Unlimited Data will no longer be available to customers when purchasing handsets at discounted pricing.
- Customers who purchase phones at full retail price and are on an unlimited smartphone data plan will be able to keep that plan.
- The same pricing and policies will be applied to all 3G and 4GLTE smartphones."
So that makes it pretty cut and dry. If you are a Verizon customer and you upgrade your smartphone after the new data share plans are released, you can kiss your unlimited data plan good bye. If you happen to still have an unlimited data plan and are eligible for an upgrade now, you might want to use it sooner rather than later.
source: Verizon Wireless,
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Oh yea I called it. They Are going to kill the unlimited data plan. I think they were testing throttling, but after that guy won vs AT&T. Verizon will just kill it. I just some how knew that this was going to happen, it was there plan.
Verizon if you do this like I KNOW you will, I will drop you. ( I just about did it any way, becuase of all the issue's I had with my razr.)
Any fan boy's want to call them the best thing ever NOW THAT THEY ARE GOING TO KILL YOUR unlimited data plan.
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Oh yea I called it. They Are going to kill the unlimited data plan. I think they were testing throttling, but after that guy won vs AT&T. Verizon will just kill it. I just some how knew that this was going to happen, it was there plan.
Verizon if you do this like I KNOW you will, I will drop you. ( I just about did it any way, becuase of all the issue's I had with my razr.)
Any fan boy's want to call them the best thing ever NOW THAT THEY ARE GOING TO KILL YOUR unlimited data plan.
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Did you get your account rebuilt ? cause your problems are not phone related
I did get it fixed after I reported them to the BBB and FCC on the same day. The issue's I had with the first phone were phone related, but the 2nd one is fine. I really don't know what they did, but they fixed it. Speeds were I live are really starting to suck, but are not under 3mbs so it's not all that bad. AT&T's H+ has hung in there well even with 109GB of use one time.
Any way I jumped in knowing this would likely be the case by the time I renewed. My bud that work's for them has hinted to me they would do this. ( I was sure he was right this time, but only the top dogs can do this.)
I was hoping to drop my AT&T phone at some point, but it look's like the black hole has come back.
To all on the unlimited plan's good luck and for your sake and mine by the way I hope this will not pass.
So should I buy a lte phone before they make the change and still get unlimited data for another 2 years our until I upgrade that?
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I would say if you need your unlimited plan, do it now/soon and you may be saved from the 2GB plan. I use the word MAY, becuase I have a fealing they may ax it for 4G users as well.
Only reason I went with verizon was for the gnexus and since sprint has it now when they do the switch I'll just go back to them *shudders* Horrible customer support
Don't think so I'm contracted and grandfathered in me and Verizon are gonna have a little talk
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Might have to look at Sprint, T-Mobile or AT&T on a media net plan. I pay $30 a month for unlimited now and rarely go over 2gigs because I use wifi so often, but as someone else mentioned on droidforums VZ keeps pushing new data-heavy apps like Netflix, touting how quickly you can download movies and music, etc. Google Music, Pandora, etc have excellent streaming, and HBO GO and other network apps are offering great shows and movies right on devices and 2GB/$30 a month is supposed to get it done? And f'ing $50 for 5GB?
Unlimited data was without question the main thing holding me to VZ, and while I can't deny that they have the best overall coverage as well AT&T is pretty good for voice and holy hell if every network but Verizon don't get the best phones. No HTC One on VZ most likely, never got the Galaxy SII in any variant, the Rezound was the only last run of HTCs of note that ever showed up, no decent Sonys. They're trying to shove Moto down our throats with increasing difficulty in unlocking the bootloaders and now this? Thanks Verizon, at least now my options are wide open.
Forgive me if my rant became incoherent at some point. My apologies to all.
Hopefully this does not apply to 4g phones. I will have to root a free 4g phone to replace my incredible 2
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4ktvs said:
Oh yea I called it. They Are going to kill the unlimited data plan. I think they were testing throttling, but after that guy won vs AT&T. Verizon will just kill it. I just some how knew that this was going to happen, it was there plan.
Verizon if you do this like I KNOW you will, I will drop you. ( I just about did it any way, becuase of all the issue's I had with my razr.)
Any fan boy's want to call them the best thing ever NOW THAT THEY ARE GOING TO KILL YOUR unlimited data plan.
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If that happens I'm switching to sprint they are going to have LTE in my area by the end if 2012
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I will switch back to AT&T if this happens
BUMP
http://www.change.org/petitions/verizon-wireless-cfo-fran-shammo-bring-back-the-unlimited-data-plan
If at&t does this I will drop them. Unlimited LTE data is why I stick with them. Even then $65 a month for the lowest talk plan, unlimited LTE data, and only 200 regular text messages is stiff. You eliminate that unlimited data and switch me to 3gb for $30 and there is no point continuing.
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http://www.change.org/petitions/verizon-wireless-cfo-fran-shammo-bring-back-the-unlimited-data-plan
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Signed thanks
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sitizenx said:
If at&t does this I will drop them. Unlimited LTE data is why I stick with them. Even then $65 a month for the lowest talk plan, unlimited LTE data, and only 200 regular text messages is stiff. You eliminate that unlimited data and switch me to 3gb for $30 and there is no point continuing.
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I spend 170 on my plan which is crazy and my moms side of the family spent 250 on 4 phones a month
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I've got 5 lines with them they take my unlimited Im gone
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Five lines four with smartphones on unlimited. My bill is 305...if my unlimited is taken, I will cancel them all. Go to Sprint, or to flip phones
but never Verizon again
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