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Remove files from ROM

How can I remove from the original ROM some files like T-Mobile, AIM ... etc. ?
I cooked up a 4.00.10 T-Mobile with GPRS monitor and batterypack but i want some more addons.
Can someone tell me what steps are required to remove from the ROM some files ?
Thanks,
Decebal

ROM = Read Only Memory.

But, i've we're able to add Programs to the ROM in the ROMkitchen, i think we're also able to remove programs.
Regards
Stefan

cruisin-thru said:
ROM = Read Only Memory.
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obviously i do not deserve that
i was talking about the ROM image and since i've already succeded in putting into the ROM two apps i want to try something else.
so if anyone know how to remove at least T-mobile and AIM files from the image i'll be happy.
thanks,
Decebal

I believe they are in an area not able to be modified.

I was just quoting from that site, it does state that it cannot be erased, modified etc, no offence meant here. :roll:

The mkrom tools will allow you to 'unpack' a rom, i.e. extract all the files that are in it.
A rom, to the best of my understanding, has a 'native' or stock part to it, and then a series of XIP chains -- programs that are added into the free spaces of the rom.
I dont know what happens if you try to remove files from a rom that are part of the standard build...
Maybe the TMobile stuff is in a 'removeable' section of the ROM... there is also the 'operator' section... I am assuming that is a location that will give the 'operator' or creator of the rom space to put specialized programs, such as TMobiles phone apps, etc.
So, it seems that your best bet is to get the mkrom tools and read about how to extract/remove files/rebuild a rom.
Hey, it may even work!
J

You can rebuild a rom image from extracted files and leave some files out but Mkrom does not use compression and therefore the rom you end up with will probably be bigger than the rom you started with.
Richard

If I am correct, an eeprom is something else than a flash-rom.
so the article at least states it incorrectly.
if it is flash, you should be able to modify it.

XDA developer Itsme said:
If I am correct, an eeprom is something else than a flash-rom.
so the article at least states it incorrectly.
if it is flash, you should be able to modify it.
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Now, I do think that the real question is "How do we unlock the 'ROM' so that it can be modified being that it is an eeprom?"
Misterdollymaker

you need backup the ROM to *.nb1 or *.nbf file, than using tools to add/delete file to *.nb1 , write the new file back to XDA ROM. it is fun to add/delete file to your personized ROM!

cgigate said:
you need backup the ROM to *.nb1 or *.nbf file, than using tools to add/delete file to *.nb1 , write the new file back to XDA ROM. it is fun to add/delete file to your personized ROM!
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this is quite interesting...can you elaborate further?? I wish to learn more...

cgigate said:
you need backup the ROM to *.nb1 or *.nbf file, than using tools to add/delete file to *.nb1 , write the new file back to XDA ROM. it is fun to add/delete file to your personized ROM!
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Yes, please! I wish to learn more too! I am looking to remove the standard sounds and replace them with my own (using same names) as well as the boot image and desktop.

yea, no kiddin, i'd like to know how too!
im sure its not impossible, 'they' did it the first time arround.
why not hacking it? and since its all at no charge (no profit) are we realy breaking any patents?

I wanted to know if there is an easy :wink: way around, to put our own programs in the rom. xda-developers certainly can't put ezwap2.5, and the total commander appears to be older version, while new version is much better. There are some more freeware application I'd love to put in there

xda-developers already posted some tools to do job, such as MKROM ...

cgigate said:
you need backup the ROM to *.nb1 or *.nbf file, than using tools to add/delete file to *.nb1 , write the new file back to XDA ROM. it is fun to add/delete file to your personized ROM!
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I'm interested too
How can i add/delete file from nb1 file?
Thanks
Fabio

I've used mkrom suite to do this (even for Smartphone2002). This are great tools.
Unfortunately it's not as easy as you might think. It's nearly impossible to build a ZERO-KNOWLEDGE ROM file explorer which can add or delete files "on the fly".
You will still have to look for valid gap's in the original rom where you can add a new XIP block.
All .exe and .dll files are "fixed up" that means they MUST run at THE fixed ROM position where they have been initially placed (execute in place). If you dump an exe or dll file you can't use it for other than disassembly to see how things work.
Removing files is a very hard task (they are splitted over the whole rom). And the resulting gap's are mostly not more than 10-16 kB. All you can do is to "hide" files (simply patch the directory entry).
So you see compression is not the real problem (see programers corner for a .bib file which can be used with romimage.exe - a Microsoft Tool to build XIP blocks, this tool supports compression)
John Smith

only the kernel actually runs in the virtual memory area mapped to rom,
all the other XIP stuff runs from a virtual memory area mapped somewhere
in the top of each processes memory space.
( look at the 'real=' values in the output of dumprom )
so for all the other modules it should be possible to move them around
in rom a bit, I think you only need to keep the pagealignment the same.

Hi,
The virtual memory address is also fixed in the module. (That's why I've to rebuild all the stuff I want to copy from other roms).
Since all relocation info is gone the module can't run from another memory position. So the only thing you can do is to move it in it's own XIP section...
John

Can ervius Visual Kitchen be used with Extreloc?

I'm trying to get an "old-style" 6.5 ROM built using EVK, and while using wmreloc builds the ROM successfully, it never boots. I've read about Extreloc in a few places, and apparently it's supposed to a better job of relocating modules. So does anyone know how to integrate Extreloc into EVK to cook a bootable, dumpable (possibly even Image Update-Ready) ROM?

Bepe specifically designed platformrebuilder to delete dsm files and the final s00x file in modules more or less to save space (he compared it to removing the ULDR in XIP) and improve module loading speed so unless you can make prb NOT do that then I doubt it. Although it sounds really interesting, I too wish we could try another reloc.

Psyki said:
Bepe specifically designed platformrebuilder to delete dsm files and the final s00x file in modules more or less to save space (he compared it to removing the ULDR in XIP) and improve module loading speed so unless you can make prb NOT do that then I doubt it. Although it sounds really interesting, I too wish we could try another reloc.
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But I think the "old-style" option in Visual Kitchen actually adds the DSMs back in (or re-creates them) - have you tried it?

Extreloc
Speaking of Extreloc - does anyone know where I can find it (along with, perhaps, some instructions on the parameters to use with it)?

Captain_Throwback said:
Speaking of Extreloc - does anyone know where I can find it (along with, perhaps, some instructions on the parameters to use with it)?
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Here are some links but not in English!!!
http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=137276
http://3ppc.net/forum/showpost.php?p=282398&postcount=45
Good luck!

kokotas said:
Here are some links but not in English!!!
http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=137276
http://3ppc.net/forum/showpost.php?p=282398&postcount=45
Good luck!
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Thanks for these links!!
I did find a downloadable Extreloc, and the one link had a good manual (thanks to Google Translate). Of course, I still can't cook an old style ROM with EVK, because, even though the OEM & SYS work okay, DSM Editor doesn't have the information to create DSMs for the EXT packages, apparently, which is where the issue lies. I wonder if I can create DSMs for all of the EXT packages, put them in the packages, and see if I can dump the ROM?

Captain_Throwback said:
Thanks for these links!!
I did find a downloadable Extreloc, and the one link had a good manual (thanks to Google Translate). Of course, I still can't cook an old style ROM with EVK, because, even though the OEM & SYS work okay, DSM Editor doesn't have the information to create DSMs for the EXT packages, apparently, which is where the issue lies. I wonder if I can create DSMs for all of the EXT packages, put them in the packages, and see if I can dump the ROM?
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i havent tried cooking old style rom in a long time, but doesnt evk place dsm/rgu in ext pkgs when you dump a stock rom? thats one reason i stopped using evk to dump stock roms and rebuild, now i use extrebuild its so much cleaner

twopumpchump said:
i havent tried cooking old style rom in a long time, but doesnt evk place dsm/rgu in ext pkgs when you dump a stock rom? thats one reason i stopped using evk to dump stock roms and rebuild, now i use extrebuild its so much cleaner
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It puts them in the folder with the EXT packages, yes, but not in a place where they get cooked into the ROM (if cooking a new-style ROM, that is). It also creates a package.ini file that details the dependency information for each package, based on the info in the DSM. It only keeps them there for cooking an "old-style" ROM, which is what would make this work as I would like it; except it doesn't work properly, and for user-made packages that don't include DSMs, DSM Editor doesn't seem to create them properly when cooking an old style ROM.

i cooked an image update rom for kaiser back last year, and i just used build OS old style kitchen to cook the rom and it worked i cant wait to be able to start using image updater, but its a real pita to cook a rom that it will work on now...and like you said its really hard to put in custom pkgs, with kaiser i basically re-cooked a stripped down stock rom. Da_G is getting closer to having his new kitchen tools done, then we should be able to build roms easily that will work with the updater

@captain
I am also looking for the exactly the same. I too want to cook in old style. But, not able to find any rebasing tool equivalent of the one in platformrebuilder.exe. Extreloc, though, is claimed to work well but for me it does not give very dependable results.
I am also interested in this kind of solution Pl update us here in case you manage to find any...

Maybe this helps?
I don't know where I have it from anymore, if I remember good it was Conflipper who shared that maybe at Mobile Underground , haha I'm realy not sure.
LoL
But I think it's something you can use.

Laurentius26 said:
Maybe this helps?
I don't know where I have it from anymore, if I remember good it was Conflipper who shared that maybe at Mobile Underground , haha I'm realy not sure.
LoL
But I think it's something you can use.
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Thanks Leo, but EVK comes with this version of WMReloc. I've tried using it to cook a 6.5 "old-style" ROM, and while the ROM compiles successfully, it won't boot. I'm thinking it could be related to module overlaps due to WMReloc's not handling the 6.5 modules properly (even though I know it's supposed to). In fact that may not be the case, but I thought EXTReloc was supposed to a better job of this. I think the real issue (and I may have already stated this) is that the DSMs from the EXT packages aren't being properly re-created during the build process by DSM Editor (perhaps that's outside the realm of what it can do?). In most cases, my EXT packages have been dumped from official ROMs, and as such have the DSM/RGU's outside of the "files" folder. They should be easily re-integrated during cooking, but I don't think that step is taking place. Perhaps it's as simple as adding a command into the batch file to copy those files into the "dump" folder for each package (I'm not really sure the best way to do that, though)? And what about packages that happen to be missing that information? Is there a way to re-create those on the fly, or would that need to be done manually? I assume for custom packages (like graphics, etc.), dependency information isn't really needed, but when dumping the ROM, those files won't have a home, I suppose .

Here's a quote from Da_G, maybe you need to use Misar's G'Reloc?
Btw I'm just a nOOb with all these tools and batch files, I know a little but just trying to help you.
Maybe a little about batches... and I read a lot.
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WinMo 6.5 improves on this by opening up Slots 60 and 61 to Modules - yielding an extra 64mb of potential Virtual Memory space. (the allocation order is now 1, 61, 60, 0 for modules, 60, 61, 0 for files) - In order for the Kernel to recognize these new Slots as being mappable for Modules, it must be updated to the 6.5 codebase. This is where the 6.5 nk.exe comes in, and why it's so important.
Profiling Virtual Memory is an important job for an OEM - the less available in Slot 0, the sooner a device will kick back out of memory errors (even if it's not truly out of memory) - and the worse the user experience will be. Some ROM's I have seen have less than 20MB available in slot 0 (and the user experience is as bad as you might imagine) - There are many more intricacies to the whole process - like balancing the load between services.exe and device.exe to best utilize the 32mb VM space available to each, and storing all resource-only dlls as modules so they can be allocated to Slot 63, etc.
This is also why it's important that the re-alloc tools be updated to support the new slots - g'reloc will not ever try to allocate modules to slot 60/61 because as far as it's aware, this is not possible. For the moment I know of 2 tools that will realloc to slot 60/61, wmreloc 2.0, and bepe's Platform Rebuilder (used by ervius vk)
What's the take-home message about VM?
Keep Slot 0 as free as possible. WM 6.5 NK allows you to use more modules without taking up SLOT 0 space, so allows more flexibility to use modules (which are faster to load)
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Captain_Throwback said:
Thanks Leo, but EVK comes with this version of WMReloc. I've tried using it to cook a 6.5 "old-style" ROM, and while the ROM compiles successfully, it won't boot. I'm thinking it could be related to module overlaps due to WMReloc's not handling the 6.5 modules properly (even though I know it's supposed to). In fact that may not be the case, but I thought EXTReloc was supposed to a better job of this. I think the real issue (and I may have already stated this) is that the DSMs from the EXT packages aren't being properly re-created during the build process by DSM Editor (perhaps that's outside the realm of what it can do?). In most cases, my EXT packages have been dumped from official ROMs, and as such have the DSM/RGU's outside of the "files" folder. They should be easily re-integrated during cooking, but I don't think that step is taking place. Perhaps it's as simple as adding a command into the batch file to copy those files into the "dump" folder for each package (I'm not really sure the best way to do that, though)? And what about packages that happen to be missing that information? Is there a way to re-create those on the fly, or would that need to be done manually? I assume for custom packages (like graphics, etc.), dependency information isn't really needed, but when dumping the ROM, those files won't have a home, I suppose .
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Just as an aside info..... the evk dont uses DSMs i mean they are useless at this point for the kitchen... maybe next generation kitchens will tell you... "Hey if you need to cook this Module for this App you need to add this and this and this due to dependencies"

Hi All
How to apply All_packages_to_one after Extreloc?
Any ideas?

[Q] Kitchen for HD mini

Dear developers,
can somebody answer which kitchen we can use for HD mini?????

Yup...EVK will be a good one for that...

Get the EVK kichen... find a stock HD MIni ROM... dump it using the EVK and get cooking!

Interesting.... i just want to say that you need to be carefull cause the HQVGA is an unussual size in new builds hopefully the rollup comes more often

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Interesting.... i just want to say that you need to be carefull cause the HQVGA is an unussual size in new builds hopefully the rollup comes more often
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com3.2 aka 231xx should come HVGA since thats the normal branch for the phone.

Johan Kraczmar said:
Dear developers,
can somebody answer which kitchen we can use for HD mini?????
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OSKitchen should be able to dump and rebuild the ROM for that phone without any issue even if it's not in the list as long as you know how to rename the EXT packages to give them the right order (that's an issue you will also have with EVK but on EVK you'll probably have many more unless you use an adapted version for your phone with the right packages already recmodded inside).
BTW I'm working right now on a way to finally apply the DSM building order that all other kitchens seem to ignore to rebuild the latest phone ROMs 100% correctly.

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OSKitchen should be able to dump and rebuild the ROM for that phone without any issue even if it's not in the list as long as you know how to rename the EXT packages to give them the right order (that's an issue you will also have with EVK but on EVK you'll probably have many more unless you use an adapted version for your phone with the right packages already recmodded inside).
BTW I'm working right now on a way to finally apply the DSM building order that all other kitchens seem to ignore to rebuild the latest phone ROMs 100% correctly.
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Thank you for answer.
Can you help me with setting in htcrt_devices.ini ????

Johan Kraczmar said:
Thank you for answer.
Can you help me with setting in htcrt_devices.ini ????
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osKitchen doesn't need that file because it automatically detects the NBH structure trough libNB; that's why I told you it should work even if the device is not on the supported list. As long as platformrebuilder doesn't cause some trouble (EVK is platformrebuilder-based too) oskitchen can work with any ROM as long as it can import and build the format (and NBH of course is supported).

Everything is clear.THX

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BTW I'm working right now on a way to finally apply the DSM building order that all other kitchens seem to ignore to rebuild the latest phone ROMs 100% correctly.
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Just a small correction here: Barin's OSBuilder does not ignore that issue. In fact there in a tool in his kitchen to modify packages.sof, so that you can even modify the build order. This is important when adding new packages which have .dsm not in stock roms, to ensure that they are build in the preferred order (ie: tweaks last).
@ OP, if you do use EVK to dump and build, be sure to clean the dump of duplicate files inside modules after dump, which is an issue with EVK's dump process. Also, with EVK (and likely OSKithcne) you need to recmod NTFConfig.dll to get a bootable rom. This is also not an issue with Barin's OSBuilder, which I highly recommend to every chef. I find this kitchen to be a superb tool compared to any kitchen to date.

mmmm interesting kitchen... lets try something new... cause the winmo times are getting bored this days

indagroove said:
Just a small correction here: Barin's OSBuilder does not ignore that issue. In fact there in a tool in his kitchen to modify packages.sof, so that you can even modify the build order. This is important when adding new packages which have .dsm not in stock roms, to ensure that they are build in the preferred order (ie: tweaks last).
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I've never tried that kitchen however I can tell you that how I've implemented shadow ordering support is pure bliss. For example as you probably know HTC ROMs rely on many virtual packages (Project Default and others) to guarantee the building order and if you delete one of them (some of these packages are completely empty) everything breaks and that the shadow dependencies are often done on localized packages so changing language could also cause havoc.
In my kitchen I normalize all the packages dependencies during import so that all the dependencies on LCID folders and on those virtual folders are gone (so those can be safely deleted), I have a package property tab to set the shadow order of any package (if the DSM is not there it will be created), it has detailed checks for short circuits (infinite dependencies loop), etc. It's really, really well done.
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@ OP, if you do use EVK to dump and build, be sure to clean the dump of duplicate files inside modules after dump, which is an issue with EVK's dump process. Also, with EVK (and likely OSKithcne) you need to recmod NTFConfig.dll to get a bootable rom. This is also not an issue with Barin's OSBuilder, which I highly recommend to every chef. I find this kitchen to be a superb tool compared to any kitchen to date.
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Well the two kitchens are in two completely different leagues: OSBuilder seems to be aimed to rebuild the ROM as best as possible following the microsoft standards (for example only flat packages, no EXT) while mine is aimed at offering the most complete and easy solution indeed the autoimport, (there is no informations associated to the device names in the import list, the kitchen finds everything out by itself to rebuild the NBH/BIN/TSW for that device), batch multi-language ROMs generation, easily structured UI and also all the warnings to limit user mistakes to minimum, from an easy automatically recmodding of packages that prb dislikes to much crazier extents like checking the Radio/splash files signatures are OK or making sure the user doesn't try to import packages from the wrong folder (like C:\) destroying his filesystem. Just because my kitchen is (sadly) still platformrebuilder-based it doesn't mean it has to be trashed though: as you may know Da_G is rewriting all the tools properly (100% compliant to the original standards) and I'm adapting his LibNB functions to the kitchen as soon as those became available hence the actual ability of dump/rebuild any NBH correctly without even knowing what device it is and hopefully soon internal XIP porting so that the kitchen will be already able (with extreloc for the IMGFS) to build its own ROMs for any device without any of the platformrebuilder limitations.

Learning to cook a rom

I've been reading up on cooking ROM's and with the help of leeston i managed to create a basic ROM earlier in the week. After searching for guides / tutorials on this stuff im really not that much the wiser, i cant seem to find anything that explains it well enough, there always missing details. The actual cooking process seems fairly straightforward but its those extra bits im missing ie
how do i add my own packages - am i right in just copying them to the SYS folder or is there more to it ?
how do i edit the registry - I know how to edit the registry once the ROM is loaded onto my phone but how do i do it from the ROM without the phone ?
how do i add things to the start menu - When i add packages to the SYS folder and load the ROM into my phone the shortcuts dont seem to be in my start menu
how do i add sense - i've loaded the packages but it never starts and theres no sense option in today settings
im new to this so as you'd imagine the questions i have are endless ...
Im sure most of this info is on XDA already somewhere but i just cant find it, maybe im searching for the wrong term or something.
Any help from the chef's would be great, perhaps you could provide links to tutorials / info you've used when learning to cook. Im sure this stuff would be useful to everyone and may even encourage more to have a go at cooking .

drkdeath5000 said:
1.how do i add my own packages - am i right in just copying them to the SYS folder or is there more to it ?
2.how do i edit the registry - I know how to edit the registry once the ROM is loaded onto my phone but how do i do it from the ROM without the phone ?
3.how do i add things to the start menu - When i add packages to the SYS folder and load the ROM into my phone the shortcuts dont seem to be in my start menu
4.how do i add sense - i've loaded the packages but it never starts and theres no sense option in today settings
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I am still new to cooking but I'll tell you what i believe to be correct.
1.Yes. To add a package to a rom you put the package into the SYS folder.
However be aware that the kitchen used for the TG01 cannot handle EXT (visual) packages, only OEM (old) packages can be used. Use Totalfires package converter to convert between the 2 types.
The above info is not strictly true but is what you need to know when cooking for the TG and i don't have the time or knowledge to write a complete tutorial.
2. Editing the registry is all to do with .RGU files, you can create a package with a new one in or edit the existing ones within the packages in the SYS folder. You can edit them with notepad but i suggest using Notepad2.
Once you open an .RGU file you should recognize the reg key text in the file and edit it accordingly. As far as i am aware the file MUST have REGEDIT4 in the first line and an empty line at the bottom in order to work. Another way is to edit the regkey on your device then export the regkey using resco or something similar, then rename the resulting file from .reg to .rgu then open it in note pad and copy and paste it into another packages .rgu file, or create a custom package for that .rgu file.
The registry can also be modified using cab files during autorun, but this can be a little messy as the cab can be uninstalled by the end user causing problems.
3. To do this you need to edit the initflashs.txt file within the . This can be done manually or with one of the many package tools available on this site. The one i use is below, it does the hardwork for you, you click a few options and it edits the required files as needed.
4. Sense is a funny one. You should just need to add all the required packages to the SYS folder and away it goes. Unfortunately this is rarely the case. It should just a case of making sure all the sense packages are there, including its many dependencies. Sense is one of my weaker areas so maybe some one else has better advice.
Hope this is useful.

do you have a loooong far way, but read the forumposts an try, try and shortPin and try. that was my way, or is my way. i have don´t helping, all found with google and in xda forum.
unfortunately, my English knowledge is terrible. otherwise I would write more.
best to dump a officiels ROM or miROM5 , then you have an example
related post here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=750261
PC Software Reg-editor
http://ceregeditor.mdsoft.pl/index.php?id=1〈=en
CAB to OEM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3942000&postcount=1
EXT to OEM
http://www.ppckitchen.org/forums/re...e666.ppckitchen.org/Tools/EXT%20to%20PPCk.exe
All folder to cooking need a .dsm (and/or) .rgu file
RGU name Generator (such as Reg- file) , dsm become automatically
http://www.famkruithof.net/uuid/uuidgen (Fetch UUIDs of another type to Version 4)
do you have a loooong far way!
... Or make a good donation to nokser or ffboy, they teach you

Hi my friend, I have a problem to cook a ROM with cab which required a reboot or witch have a information message ( SWYPE or GPSMOdDriver for example)
Do you know a solution for this please?
Thanks in advance.

Thanks for the info leeston and miro ;-). I havent had time to try it yet but will be over weekend and im almost sure now i know where to find the registry files ill be able to cook something decent up since that was my main problem. Thanks again for the help.
EVEALEX62 said:
Hi my friend, I have a problem to cook a ROM with cab which required a reboot or witch have a information message ( SWYPE or GPSMOdDriver for example)
Do you know a solution for this please?
Thanks in advance.
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I may be wrong but when the cab files are first installed doesnt it automatically reboot ? If not you can always do a manual reboot ;-).

I've tried everything to get sense working but im just having no luck ... copied the packages to the sys folder, flashes fine, boots fine but no sense and now theres no setting shortcut in the start menu ?
Could i ask for the exact procedure for installing sense please ? Im getting my packages from here but replacing the 2017 home with 2016. Could i perhaps be missing something ?
Thanks again

drkdeath5000 said:
I may be wrong but when the cab files are first installed doesnt it automatically reboot ? If not you can always do a manual reboot ;-).
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I have try to delete the line "Reboot" after autocabinstall but nothing change the phone always reboot ... I think the only thing is to do OEM package...
I have test with many cabs but nothing works same as you with Sense ...
Have you found solutions ?

EVEALEX62 said:
Hi my friend, I have a problem to cook a ROM with cab which required a reboot or witch have a information message ( SWYPE or GPSMOdDriver for example)
Do you know a solution for this please?
Thanks in advance.
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The solutoin is to use autorun instead of cabinstl, you can then write a custom script to handle the input required by the cab.
However this is above my head, and i couldn't get autorun to work. FFBOY knows how but i doubt you will get his help as he doesn't seem to check any threads other than his own rom threads, and if he does his responces are few and far between.

drkdeath5000 said:
I've tried everything to get sense working but im just having no luck ... copied the packages to the sys folder, flashes fine, boots fine but no sense and now theres no setting shortcut in the start menu ?
Could i ask for the exact procedure for installing sense please ? Im getting my packages from here but replacing the 2017 home with 2016. Could i perhaps be missing something ?
Thanks again
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Those are the packages i used and they work so it's not the packages, but i cheated and dumped a sense rom then modified it. I don't have time to try and work out how to do it properly unfortunatley.

leeston2379 said:
Those are the packages i used and they work so it's not the packages, but i cheated and dumped a sense rom then modified it. I don't have time to try and work out how to do it properly unfortunatley.
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Well atleast i know the packages are fine, i was starting to wonder if that was the problem . Theres some satisfaction in doing it yourself but like miro said i think its just too much for me, ill give it another go later in the week and if that fails ill just dump a sense rom like you did ... if there was just a tutorial on installing sense packages etc id be fine, with sense being so popular you'd think there to be loads of tuts.

[Q] [PROBLEM][HERMES-TYTN]Default.hv cooked ROM

Hi,
I have a really strange problem.
I have two HTC HERMES, one good that I use and a second that I use only fot test purposes because it's not in good conditions.
I cook ROMs with "ROMDonalds Kitchen" and I have neved had any problem.
Since yesterday, every new ROM I cook, I have this problem:
if I don't edit "default.hv" the cooked ROM goes well in both my HERMES, but if I edit it, the ROM can only be loaded on the second HERMES (the one not in good conditions).
In the other HERMES after flashing, when I make the reset or even the hard-reset, the ROM begins to boot but then stops after the first splash-screen and the screen becames white.
I always flash from SD (hermimg.nbh).
What can be the problem?
Can be a problem of the good HERMES of the two I have?
Can be a difference in hardware between the good HERMES, even if they are identical from outside?
Many thanks !

Hi,
I don't understand why you need to edit default.hv but probably you have your reason.
It's better to leave it untouched to my opinion.
To edit the registry you can edit the .rgu in the specific package or create
a new package with the new registry overwriting the first package registry.
The second suggestion you can keep your tweaks in every rom you cook and switch the stock packages more easy.
What you are writing is indeed weird but this way you avoid errors in the .hv files.
Edit; btw, because Hermes is a pretty old device I'm asuming the kitchen you use is still using .rgu instead of .reg in the packages, latest kitchens mostly use .reg
.rgu and .reg files are same and containing the registry.
Grtz,
Laurentius26

yeah its true, what do you change in the d.hv? maybe you can tell us, what about to use another kitchen? or do your changes in app.reg ext pkgs or in oem packages to void edit it

I edit .hv files when I add or remove programs from the ROM.
I've tried also Ervius kitchen but when I try to dump my ROMs It gives me some errors...the only kitchen I was able to use is RomDonald's..
Can You suggest me another good one?
Thanks

Airxtreme's Oskitchen or Barin's OSbuilder, they are both in Chef Central here.
You don't need to edit .hv files as when you remove the package all registry of that package will be gone too.
eryunt said:
I edit .hv files when I add or remove programs from the ROM.
I've tried also Ervius kitchen but when I try to dump my ROMs It gives me some errors...the only kitchen I was able to use is RomDonald's..
Can You suggest me another good one?
Thanks
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I dont think ROMDonalds processes rgu files. If I remember correct, you have edit the hive files to use that kitchen.

Wow, that's gotta be a huge pain in the butt.

ai6908 said:
I dont think ROMDonalds processes rgu files. If I remember correct, you have edit the hive files to use that kitchen.
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Yes, It is correct.
But the strange thing is that only one of the two Hermes I have, accepts the ROM after I edit the .hv files...
The question is:
Is there a separate memory where the hive is stored, and can this memory be faulty in one of my Hermes?

eryunt said:
...Is there a separate memory where the hive is stored, and can this memory be faulty in one of my Hermes?...
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If you mean the fixed address - the answer is No. *.hv are files and files do not have the fixed address.

I've tried also Ervius Visual Kichen, but when I dump my ROM It gives me these two errors:
1- "Xipkernel's DSM not found! I'll create new...Maybe protected XIP (not portable !!!)"
2- "Boo.rgu in xip not found!Create new...But maybe ROM will be NON BOOTABLE !!!)"
What's wrong?
Thanks for all the answers You provide !
XDA, really a great Community !!!

Hi,
I don't know what you are doing to setup Ervius?
Are you importing a new stock rom into the kitchen?
The errors you can check:
Ervius kitchen/Rom/Shared/'Sys build'/MSXipkernel/
boot.rgu and the .dsm should be there.
Without boot.rgu and the dsm the rom won't boot.
Are all your desktop system files unhidden and vissible?
eryunt said:
I've tried also Ervius Visual Kichen, but when I dump my ROM It gives me these two errors:
1- "Xipkernel's DSM not found! I'll create new...Maybe protected XIP (not portable !!!)"
2- "Boo.rgu in xip not found!Create new...But maybe ROM will be NON BOOTABLE !!!)"
What's wrong?
Thanks for all the answers You provide !
XDA, really a great Community !!!
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The visualization of hidden files is active in my PC, and I am trying to import a NON STOCK ROM to add or remove packages.
Ervius kithchen gives me the errors I described, and also OSKitchen gives me errors..
Can these kitchens import only STOCK ROMs?
I used ROMDonald's kitchen because It was able to edit a ROM that was already cooked...but the editing of .hv files is wrong...

I advise you to use a stock rom as you can test if everything is working ok.
After this you can do your modifications.
I know it's a bit of work but the advantage is to use a new kitchen which is much more configurable.
Editing .hv files isn't that good, but we talked about that already.
Another tip, I always zip my kitchen after I know a configuration is working and I flashed the rom succsesvol, before I continue to the next step.
eryunt said:
The visualization of hidden files is active in my PC, and I am trying to import a NON STOCK ROM to add or remove packages.
Ervius kithchen gives me the errors I described, and also OSKitchen gives me errors..
Can these kitchens import only STOCK ROMs?
I used ROMDonald's kitchen because It was able to edit a ROM that was already cooked...but the editing of .hv files is wrong...
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eryunt said:
Yes, It is correct.
But the strange thing is that only one of the two Hermes I have, accepts the ROM after I edit the .hv files...
The question is:
Is there a separate memory where the hive is stored, and can this memory be faulty in one of my Hermes?
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It doesnt make sense why one device would run it, and the other one dont! Are you sure the hive files do not have any errors?
Try to flash a stock ROM first, then flash the cooked one. I know hermes has ext storage, and that can through errors...

ai6908 said:
It doesnt make sense why one device would run it, and the other one dont! Are you sure the hive files do not have any errors?
Try to flash a stock ROM first, then flash the cooked one. I know hermes has ext storage, and that can through errors...
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That's the point...It's a nonsense..
I've already tried to flash stock ROM on both devices before flashing the cooked ROM, but It's always the same nonsense, one loads the ROM, the other doesn't...
At this point only a malfunction or a difference in hardware between my two devices could explain this strange behaviour
Don't know how to solve...

are you trying to recook my roms? hahaha just kiddin
everybody knows that we don thave bootable and full dumped roms from customized ones, due to DSMsif you want to make a roms looks like or be something like a... i recommend to ask for the kitchen many retired chefs on Legacy devices can share it to you or just dump the rom and xtract the things you want
but make your own Stock OEM an set good your Native Kernel