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Will X1 get its own section on xda forum?

I love this forum. I'm a new member and haven't posted much but I've been reading a lot, and screwing around with my HTC Startrek. I'm also in the market for a new phone soon, and when it comes down to the Touch Pro or the X1, I like the fact that the Touch Pro has an overwhelming community here on XDA with an abundance of information available. I'm sure the X1 will have its own communities (some are already showing up on google), but will the X1 get its proper forum space here?
After all, it IS an HTC manufactured device for SE, and the Palm Treo 750 has its own section here... I don't see why not?!

The X1 is in it's own section already. This post is in the Sony xperia x1 Forum, I'm not quite sure what you mean?
Dave

X1 forum
And as the X1 is actually a HTC manufactured device and nearly identical to the Touch Pro (not including screen, camera or keyboard) the community here for the X1 should be pretty impressive.
I am just curious if they have fixed that terrible keyboard I keep reading about on the X1.

well currently the community for the x1 is nowhere near as large as the touch pro... but thats because its not out yet. if you look at the palm 750, it has its own section of the forum which consists of several child discussion areas. I was just wondering if the X1's community here will be large enough to warrant such an implementation for the X1 on xda. A strong support community (which xda offers) is important to myself and many others in the final selection of which device. I guess ill just have to wait and see!

Check out xperiancers.com
I'm hoping the X1 won't need a big section, because it will work great right out of the box. If people are happy with the stock ROM, there won't be a huge number of people cooking and trying new ROMs. And S-E runs the above site. If they do a good job of listening and responding to issues, maybe we won't need to have a community to solve problems.
I have a dream...

Regardless, they're releasing a software development kit for people to make their own interactive panels. Even if not to "fix" things, developers are going to be wanted to add content to a great device. Based on the SDK being free I think you'll see PLENTY of software support from large companies as well as individuals on this forum.

On a side note...
Finally after i type Xperia in google it doesnt suggest that i wanted Xeria

@MODS & USERS: A PANEL development SUBFORUM ?

@MODS and all users:
A PANEL development SUFORUM should be a great place to share SONY PANELS SDK info and experiences
As with other HTC phones, I have seen apps and ROMs populating the forums, but we are omitting the whole idea behind the XPERIA CONCEPT: PANELS !! I know it is a novel concept (panels itself), but XDA DEVS should lead the pace Ain't ??
I have seen some excelent panel-developing posts starting to pop up recently, like THIS ONE, but a DEDICATED PANELS DEVELOPING SUBFORUM would boost production thru the typical xda-devs knowledge exchange and sharing
Please consider this possibilities, share your ideas, and thanks for reading

Yea I agree, I would like to get back into a little developing but an area where everyone can share Panel development tips/experiences etc would be great.

gtaz said:
Yea I agree, I would like to get back into a little developing but an area where everyone can share Panel development tips/experiences etc would be great.
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That's what I mean: a place to talk just pannels

I think it would be a very logical subforum.
Mods?

Maybe not only for panel development but for all software dev/tweaks.
the current (non rom) forum is too cluttered with non-dev questions, cracks in cases etc.
it's getting harder by the day to get proper tech information and problems solved..

I second that!

nixx-X1 said:
Maybe not only for panel development but for all software dev/tweaks.
the current (non rom) forum is too cluttered with non-dev questions, cracks in cases etc.
it's getting harder by the day to get proper tech information and problems solved..
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Yea I feel the same. I have read the X1 forum on here since it started and have found it very helpful. It does seem a bit cluttered with noob questions etc, to filter out the general discussion from the Panel/Software development would be really helpful.

I'd rather have the standard Apps and themes, panels can intergrate into that happily. Then this first one can be for people who forget that this isn't a helpline.. I meant for general questions.
It's a format that works across the site so why not change what works?
I've not seen enough discussion on panels to say it merits a subforum yet. Maybe a couple of stickies would suffice for a while?

If you need an extra (sub) mod for it, let me know..

I'd really like to have a nice place to discuss about panels (and apps?) DEVELOPMENT only
Other forums (check blackstone) DO have separate sub-forums for this purpose
Thus, general questions go to te "general" Blackstone subforum and not in the "DEVELOPING" subforum
But what do MODERATORS think about this ??
Tnyynt ? Alltheway ? Equinox ?
What do you think about my proposal ?
IMHO, I think it's time for the XPERIA to have a PANELS AND APPS DEVELOPMENT subforum

it's will be very useful place

I think it's a great idea, especially considering the present state of panel development. imo anything that can be done to help facilitate developers should be.
It can only be a good thing, right?

xhaz said:
imo anything that can be done to help facilitate developers should be.
It can only be a good thing, right?
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Yupp. I hope their are ppl who actually want to do this though.

awesome idea !!
first project suggestion - modify the Media Panel to incorporate a home screen, weather and messaging. Would be great to have an SE version of TF3D

I think that a Software, Themes, & Panels sub-forum is definitely possible. I think it's very unlikely that there will be a whole sub-forum devoted to it. Additionally, i'm not convinced that as far as development goes that a stickied thread wouldn't suffice if it was designated for developers. I of course could be wrong, but seeing as how TF3D doesn't even have a sub-forum, i'm gonna say it's unlikely that panels will.

scotchua said:
I think that a Software, Themes, & Panels sub-forum is definitely possible. I think it's very unlikely that there will be a whole sub-forum devoted to it. Additionally, i'm not convinced that as far as development goes that a stickied thread wouldn't suffice if it was designated for developers. I of course could be wrong, but seeing as how TF3D doesn't even have a sub-forum, i'm gonna say it's unlikely that panels will.
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Yes I had that same idea:
Why port TF3D when a similar Xperia panel could be created ??
I've been trying (trying...) to learn a little about panels, but I really miss a dedicated place/thread/subforum/whatever to READ MORE and LEARN MORE and share knowledge -INPUT, I NEED INPUT
I'll start a thread in the mean time

I've been lurking on these forums for a couple of years just grabbing the odd file here and there. First I had a Universal, then a Polaris and now an X1. I've found myself getting a lot more involved with the technical aspects of my handsets and Panels was a contributing factor in my decision to get the X1.
I have a basic introduction to programming and yet I came up with a launcher panel in a short time today. Okay, so I had to use the "compiler" at mysonyericssonblog.com but it was almost no effort to come up with a HTML launcher for an application along with it's panel graphics. If a relative novice like me can come up with something, then we're going to get snowed under here with custom panels in very short order.
I agree with gtrab about TF3D... X1 owners should run it as a panel because "our" phone has the ability and we're giving ourselves the option to change the interface in a few seconds. I personally think the cross-pollination of Blackstone apps/interfaces with the X1's can only lead to good things.
I think somewhere for discussion about panels and launchers is a very good idea. If we don't get all the panel discussions collected together, we're going to lose them in the tide of people after free tech support for their shiny phone. I don't mind trying to help out where I can, but I spend more time poring through the XDA-Dev forums than all my other "daily" sites combined.

At the moment I spend most time rebuilding (not only reskinning) the tfl3d interface (which is indeed a panel!)
By know I know there are 3 places of this forum where there is info about it
-Development and Hacking
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=260
-Themes, Applications and Software
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=474
- and burrried in the x1 forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=436
the blackstone fora does have a 'themes, applications and software' subdevision which separates the crap from the useful things.
if we could get one of those (with the same name) we can separate the creation and alterations from the problem solutions and daily chit chatter.
please..please..please

I would also like to see this at some point.
Still nothing on the SE site regarding new panels...plus the total lack of games/apps that work on the x1.
Its a real shame, dont want to compare it to the iphone...but it has such a wide variety of games & apps in such a short time. I understand its diff for winmo (due to different handsets, specs etc)...but I notice some winmo apps are setup so it automatically goes full screen...which gets me thinking why arent they all like this?
Again, I know apple check all the apps and anybody can make apps for winmo (which is party a good thing)...just seems a bit of quality control wouldnt go a miss.
I also read somewhere MS is setuping up an app store similar to apples...reaaaaally looking forward to that!
Currently I only have a few actually useful apps on my phone
TomTom
Core Player
GAlarm
The rest just seem so...meh!
Any suggestions (

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This is just an idea I've just had for you mods and admins to consider. Why dont you add a new section into the HTC HD2 section just for complaints, becase 95% of this section is being bogged down by complaints about newly bought devices/ other general problems, and I think we should make this section more to do with general leo stuff again, instead of complaints
HD2 General
HD2 Problems/Complaints
HD2 Rom Development
HD2 Themes and Applications
Just a suggestions

I agree, an ask question/help sticky will get used a lot and it's harder helping so many people in one large thread. Good suggestion!

Good suggestion!

+1 - good idea

i definately agree... get this forum back on track please!

I agree, good suggestion!

the general forum would be a tad quiet i feel haha

+1 ... please ... and also move existing Complaints (whining) threads to that section

bshakil said:
+1 ... please ... and also move existing Complaints (whining) threads to that section
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[★] said:
This is just an idea I've just had for you mods and admins to consider. Why dont you add a new section into the HTC HD2 section just for complaints, becase 95% of this section is being bogged down by complaints about newly bought devices/ other general problems, and I think we should make this section more to do with general leo stuff again, instead of complaints
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+Loads to this!
[★], could I suggest that you make a reference to this thread in the "(requests) From the Users to the Mods & Admins" post? I think it will get seen more there and (we are) The Mods can then visit this post and see that the idea is getting support!
Great idea mate.

+1 here also
I have contributed to the "complaints" also, but I must say a large portion of the general forum is only about complaints.

+1
I don't want to annoy the lucky 'majority' who got a problem free handset. I'm sure I've got a lot of whining left in me.

+1
I think it should be a general complain section for winmondevice,one for android,...not for each device - would be too much double posts...
I think some complaints are ok,but no one of us is htc or whoever - and yes, it's a problem that winmo is a Multi-Tasking device and so there could be side effects because of several software installation. And some users don't have too much knowledge - are installing some crap which doesn't work with other apps - and so they think,their phone is crap.
I would recommend a more simple device, which can only run one app at a time - there also crap couldn't too much harm. I know one - and there is very much senseless software is available, too.
But for me: I like Multi-Tasking
And in some(not all) threads of complaining... it seems that this aren't honest questions... seems more that's people who produce or have an other phone...
I think most of us do the best to develop apps,which makes our phone better for our personal purpose and share it for free, much users are helping each other - but for "polite" and not company-"political" questions.
HD2 is the first WinMo-Multitouch-Device and so we need the time to learn,how apps can use this.Like other Multitouch-Developments needed their times before.
But for other things...we already have a big amount of great apps,which are using the benefits against Not-WinMo-Phones.
I'm happy to own a device which is so far the fastest one and has a brilliant display with a size, that I often only surf (in 7,2mbit/s online or Wifi N) with it instead to switching on my laptop.
Also this text I wrote with my handy...and I think that's easy.
Thanx to all, who are involved in our Freeware-Market
Micha

how about:
HD2 Tips and Tricks!
HD2 Problems/Complaints
HD2 Rom Development
HD2 Themes and Applications
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+1 really good idea!!!

+1, do it, please.

johncmolyneux said:
+Loads to this!
[★], could I suggest that you make a reference to this thread in the "(requests) From the Users to the Mods & Admins" post? I think it will get seen more there and (we are) The Mods can then visit this post and see that the idea is getting support!
Great idea mate.
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sure I'll do it now

I second the proposal!

+1 million!!
So much browsing through whining and crying about mostly the same things expressed in a different way to look for something useful !
lol... And how about an iPhone vs HD2 section for people to scream at each other as much as they want and leave us enjoy what we bought and make it better! That or a recycle bin for threads of such nature to be redirected in!

+1 Im getting fed up of people seeking attention , because they feel they bought the wrong phone/ cant read the manual/ or stickies..etc
As this just pushes more useful general discusions off the first 3 pages

Mod-connect.

Well,the rules to abide by in this forum...Hope to keep every member in there safe.
Use the Smartphone General forum for GENERIC posts, hacks, tutorials, questions!
If you have a question / tip / hack / trick also applicable to (most) other Smartphone models, please PLEASE post it to the brand new General Smartphone forum. Few Smartphone users check out the forums of other Smartphone models and, therefore, your questions / tips / other stuff will be read by a LOT more people if you post it to a general forum than in just a model-specific one.
As has already been pointed out, everything should be posted to the new General forum that isn’t ONLY related to the particular model. Some examples of what should be posted to the General forum and what should stay in a device-specific one:
* posts like “the HTC Opal has a very bad-quality Camera" should stay in the device-specific Opal subforum because it’sonly the Opal that is affected by this problem. The same stands for problems with the bootloaders of a given model or specific ROM upgrades, ROM versions, unlocking etc. only applicable to a given model (and nothing else).
* posts like Live Messenger CAB’s , OpenVPN hacks hacking etc. should go to the General forum because these hacks, information etc. can be used on (almost) ALL Smartphone models.
* if you have a question that you feel can be answered by other Smartphone users, do NOT post it to a device-specific forum, but to the generic one. Generic questions are “What Web browsers should I use?”, “How do I configure my e-mail client?”, “How do I install Flash on my device” and so on. ONLY post questions like “What about ROM version X.Y for Smartphone model XY”, “How do I enable HSDPA in model XY”, “Where should I get WM6.1 for model Opal”, “I have problems with the Camera of my Opal”, “My Opal’s buttons are hard to press” – that is, questions you’re absolutely sure about belonging to model-specific forums.
Also, make sure you continuously monitor the forum because I’ll post a lot of brand new Smartphone-related information in there.
Again and again,
1. POST ALL your questions / tips / hacks in the General forum if you find it can also apply to / answered by the owners of other Smartphone models
2. frequently visit the new forum for new tips / questions and, last but not least, my tutorials / roundups
thanks to Menneisyys for the rules...

Dun Dun Welcome to the modding community shreyas!

User Experience.
Well,this thread is dedicated for the users of Opal.I would like every member to express his/her problems regarding the forum,problems if any ranging from irritating members to topics in the forum,how to use,help and so on...If any user experiences something really annoying at this forum and needs to report it,s/he may do it over here...this thread is for the members.If any one under moderator scanner feels that s/he is being ill-treated with the mod actions or if s/he feels that his/her point is stronger,do express your concerns over here.
Dont unnecessarily start a post.This thread is for a better user experience over the forum.Enjoy posting here.Use the smileys to denote what you feel as sometimes,texts don't express things as they are needed to be expressed.As always,please do follow the rules!won't like to lose a member atleast from this forum...I would also like the users to report if they feel any insecurity,threat,misunderstandings and/or any serious problems from the fellow users...I may take action or report that to the higher authorities.thank you!
Looking forward on enhancing the User Experience over here.Have a nice time.

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ALL THOSE WHO ARE FINDING IT DIFFICULT TO LOCATE PAJERMS RC2 ROM,WATCH THIS SPACE.LINK: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8211495#post8211495

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ALL THOSE WHO WERE WAITING FOR JAGANS EVOLUTION ULTIMATE...WELL,HERES THE BETA FOR IT...ENJOY...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=782119

For Members too...
Well,id be happy if members post their thoughts about this forum...and also,this thread can be used for chatting..there's no restriction here!!!

Ban
Having my exams this month.will be banned for some time!!!have a great month ahead!!!

Notice to New members.
Well,if you are a NEW member on XDA,please READ the FORUM RULES.its a sincere request from the top brass of this forum.We don't like to delete,ban or remove any members from this forum..Just spend a few minutes reading them.Its all for your betterment

Well, to all the Members of the hTC Opal General/Development/Accessory Forum, this is the Moderator for this forum.Requesting all the Members here to feel free to report posts and seek help from me(shr) and I'd assure action on them.If you have any problems with this forum or suggestions to make, please contact me. I cannot promise to act on every suggestion that is made but it will receive my attention.
Thanks.

Things of the Past!
It hurts to see that there is No-Activity going on in this forum...The forum was active at one time!
But now,i guess all of the shine is gone....The wait for Jagan's evo series,Pajerms fabulous ROM's,some or the other development and innumerable Q & A's...What fun it was...Some crazy tantrums,Mod-Edits,Personal Messages,Application requests,frequent checking in and out of the forum....It doesn't happen these days!
Well,I am keeping this thread open...Please do post your concerns! How much ever silly they are...
Keep this forum alive guys...We need you all!
Thanks!

Jagan's busy regarding his exams, Pajerm bricked his Opal, Android not yet fully functional, no news except from this thread?! Argh! I guess Opal's really dying

Bad show!
What are the other members doing???We don't have only Jagan and Pajerm as the heart and soul of this forum...We had a really good team of beta testers (for all ROMs)..A good Italian discussion thread(later asked to continue and translate in English)...I guess the device had a shorter life span...May be people upgraded their devices or are rather not interested to develop due to limited functionality of the device...Bad show guyz...

shr said:
What are the other members doing???We don't have only Jagan and Pajerm as the heart and soul of this forum...We had a really good team of beta testers (for all ROMs)..A good Italian discussion thread(later asked to continue and translate in English)...I guess the device had a shorter life span...May be people upgraded their devices or are rather not interested to develop due to limited functionality of the device...Bad show guyz...
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You really can't blame others for this, with a lot of new devices coming out, it just show that Opal is really limited with regards to its hardware capabilities. *sigh* I just learned how to flash my Opal recently, but I guess it ends here

golokipok said:
You really can't blame others for this, with a lot of new devices coming out, it just show that Opal is really limited with regards to its hardware capabilities. *sigh* I just learned how to flash my Opal recently, but I guess it ends here
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Well,thats what i just said!!!
The Opal does have some limitations and i think all the members must have migrated out to a new device and forum!!!

I have an idea, look at my signature, if what I wrote goes against the rules of the forum then tell me and I remove everything at once.

Good little phone
Yes, the Opal might be a bit older, but I have found that it is a great little phone especially when you upgrade the ROM to a WM6.5 or greater.
It doesn't have a large screen or isn't as fast as some of them out there, but if you don't have a data plan or don't do much on-line and want a good Pocket PC / Cell Phone it works just fine.
And I for one will be happy to help Pajerm get another Opal.

United We Stand-No One Dares To Divide Us!!!
Well, yes Pajerm,I'd like to help,all you can do is tell me the procedure...And 1 more thing.Can you organise a you tube thread which shows us how to install,use[kitchen] and make ROM's for Opal using kitchens???
I'd help you with the thread...I mean everyone will help...You be sure to record and take screenshots and you may mail them to me if you are busy!
I'd post it here...
Thanks!

shr said:
Well, yes Pajerm,I'd like to help,all you can do is tell me the procedure...And 1 more thing.Can you organise a you tube thread which shows us how to install,use[kitchen] and make ROM's for Opal using kitchens???
I'd help you with the thread...I mean everyone will help...You be sure to record and take screenshots and you may mail them to me if you are busy!
I'd post it here...
Thanks!
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I can make some tutorial, but I need your help because my English is very bed...

pajerm said:
I can make some tutorial, but I need your help because my English is very bed...
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Well, ok,i will help...! I also have Mr.zeus's gmail id through which we are intending to discuss some android stuff..If you can,please PM your gmail id so that we can video chat if you have a web camera!
Thanks!

New life for opal?
Looks like we're gonna see new ROMS again in the future. Keep it coming guys, I wanna help with the testing

Calling all fellow developers for Xperia X2 custom rom/app development

Dear Fellow X2 Users,
I have been reading through all main sections (there are only 3 lol) of the X2 subforums and cannot help noticing how much more threads/sections and more importantly more development is being done on the older Xperia X1.
For me I see this as ironic that an older model is being tweaked more when internally they both have similar hardware.
I would summarize the X2 as a well designed device on the outside with a bad software system. We have gotten as far as getting rid of the junk that SE has put as "wrappers" to give it some eye-candy. We have made it usable and we have made the battery last longer. I am a programmer who believes that anything is possible if we use what is availabe to make amazing solutions.
Looking at windows mobile 7 although it promises fancy games and fancy social connectivity I do not think many professionals will consider those as useful. So I do not think the Xperia X2 is dead. I think it is like Knight Rider's car without Kit installed yet!
To the point (finally! I hear some of you say) why not make a team just like the htc developers have and work on some alternatives to minimal X2(skip default cabs) and bugged X2(default)? If we cannot cook roms, I say make some custom set of cabs that get the job done. I see so many good cabs in the forums: fm radios, handwriting recognition (kudos to fadi.b), the multifix cab, and an overclocking cab that boosts speed to 1000Mhz! (in some cases) and so many other I can't remember at the moment. We need to combine what we have into something better than the original X2 software.
I know I have not participated in these forums much, but believe me I have played around with the X2 just like the rest of you. I am asking for a concerted developmenteffort so we can solve the many issues mentioned by the X2 community.
Why not have development sections? A WinMo section is definitely a must.
Or an Android section like X1? A features request sticky inside these too would be good for everyone. We have to share some crucial information so a thread for this is important as well, e.g. keymappings, APIs, etc.
It is my hope that after reading this more people will try to approach the challenge of customizing the X2 in a more organized and successful way. Instead of deciding who should start, I think we should focus on how we ourselves can make it work!
To the Forum Mods: I have placed this in general section because imo it regards X2 as a whole and not specifically for ROM development or apps, rather a combination of both.

Totally agree with you!

I am agreed with you.
Please any programmer or developer contribute your specialist and skill here.
But,I am noobs with the software programmer...

I think we should make a new thread and see how many people would be willing
to put some money to offer the developer of the Hard-Slp.

i hope !!!!

Guys check this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=716798

I also agree with you.
Please developers must take initiative to make x2 successfull.

im with you too guys, but i know that most developers prefer htc phones over other phones so you see many great stuff in htc forums ... so i thing a big motive for developers is to make abouny for hard spl and this will really attract developers ... sorry for my bad english

This is HTC hardware.
Second,i will donate or pay for any hardspl that would make this thing usable.
I do not have enough time to devote into "modding" ripping the software until i come out with an usable x2,so i would gladly pay to get something to put on this usefull 500$ phone.
I think that like me are many users that would give to say at least 10-20 euro for something to make this crap work better.
Kind regards to all and i'm still hoping to see something done for my X2.

mrqro said:
This is HTC hardware.
Second,i will donate or pay for any hardspl that would make this thing usable.
I do not have enough time to devote into "modding" ripping the software until i come out with an usable x2,so i would gladly pay to get something to put on this usefull 500$ phone.
I think that like me are many users that would give to say at least 10-20 euro for something to make this crap work better.
Kind regards to all and i'm still hoping to see something done for my X2.
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It is not HTC hardware.

Hi hi! Sorry for falling off the edge of the internet platform! (was busy ).
Good news! Got myself a new X2 hehehe. Yes am serious about getting this from piece of mediocre communication device to at least X1 status!
K, I will summarize what is required to develop applications for the X2 and Windows Mobile phones in general:
1. Development Environment to make programs: Microsoft Visual Studio 2008 or Sharp Develop IDE. Search on Google to find more
2. HEX Editor to analyze/break apart data: No idea yet! Still searching for an updated one. Maybe Hex Workshop. Got an old version of that somewhere.
3. Registry Editor: CeRegistryEditor, Awesome registry editor for playing around with registry key settings. It uses ActiveSync and you change settings on your computer.
Will update this list when I find out or remember more items.
Good day to you all and please, don't give up!

hafirangi said:
Guys check this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=716798
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I have come across this some time ago and it is what I mentioned in my first post about a minimalist X2 (no unnecessary things). I have been there and although it is nice to have a phone that works I would like a phone that works AND looks and works beautiful!
Hope you see what I see now ^^. Not iPhone killer lol, just something better than what we have now.