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HD2 and Sony Ericsson's Xperia X10

can anyone tell me which is better to get ??? i have no idea about the performance of the Android 1.5 ... plzz help me

If you want to consume over the phone... Android / iPhone is a go ... if you want consuming plus billion possibilities of making your phone more fun, more easy, more of everything - get HD2 ...
I'm HD2... are you?

Thanks Dude .. now am goin 2 be HD2 myself

The expert of M3digtal word have tested both of them and there give to Xperia 10 in the scale of 10 a 5,hd2 have a 8!

I've never used an ExperiaX10 but I've had my HD2 for about 4 days. I must say i picked up my 8525 today and thought "Damn this **** looks ugly!".
My wife was always the one complaining about me being on my phone all the time. Now that I got her an HD2 also, she is bragging about it to everyone she meets, watching movies while working out at the gym, taking pics/videos of the kids all the time and basically being a total freaking junkie like I've been for the last 4 years.
I can only say the HD2 is a great experience.

Don't know but isn't the latest version of Android actually 2.1 Update 1 so it's out of date already?

I am in the same boat now..
2 questions that are still un answered for me --
1. Will android 2.1 update make x10 a better phone ?
2. Will HD2 be getting a fully functional android when its elder twin brother HTC EVO comes out in another 2 months ?
Meanwhile i will stick on to my everhated iphone ( jailbroken iphone ofcourse) that actually meets all my needs

drgopoos said:
I am in the same boat now..
2 questions that are still un answered for me --
1. Will android 2.1 update make x10 a better phone ?
2. Will HD2 be getting a fully functional android when its elder twin brother HTC EVO comes out in another 2 months ?
Meanwhile i will stick on to my everhated iphone ( jailbroken iphone ofcourse) that actually meets all my needs
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1. Yes, it will.... if it is made.
2. No, the EVO is not the same phone, any more than a Corvette is a Porsche because they both have four tires and a steering wheel. The HD2 will likely never run Android fully, and definitely not as an HTC sanctioned ROM.

HD2 is better for you , X10 suck

X10 comes with Android 1.6 with the support of upgrading to 2.1 in the future. However, the multi-touch is announced to be not supported no matter which android version the phone receives.
Android will have more apps, but HD2 basically has more possibility of making it better and more fun if you just spend some time doing research and try out new things.
If you are not a so much tech person, maybe android will be a better platform to choose over WinMo 6.5.

go and get htc desire ,or x10 but never get hd2 ,android is the future ,wm6.5 is totally dead

am i going mad? jumping ship

hey all,
ive had my Hd2 for about 6 months and I'm thinking of getting rid of it for a N1 or a Desire. i mean is this a smart move?
my main reason is the lack if apps for the hd2 is pathetic and most are in the old skool windows mobile interface, which looks crap to the likes of the sense ui.
im also finding the slowdowns in win mo are driving me bonkers. for a high spec phone im not impressed.
course being that i have to lay down the best part of 400-600 pounds to get the forementioned phones id like the communities help. im tempted for a google N1 as the updates are more regular, but the sense UI on the hd2 i find really nice. so what would you guys say is the betterof the two? and would you get one over the hd2
thanks,
Luke

oh no... another one of those...
how the hell should we know?? vast majority of us in these parts of the forum have hd2, so isn't it better to ask those questions on android boards?
geez... how many threads like this do we need?

Im with mr. bronx on this one...

surely the HD2 community are the people to ask, as you've stayed with HD2, you'll be the most wise as to why not to get the android, and/or why you stayed with the HD2 over the new androids?

diablous said:
surely the HD2 community are the people to ask, as you've stayed with HD2, you'll be the most wise as to why not to get the android, and/or why you stayed with the HD2 over the new androids?
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To be brutally honest, it is personal preference.
Every phone has it's issues.
Every operating system has it's issues.
Every owner has their issues with the above.

i have gone from the HD2 to the Desire and to honest for me anyway i find the desire and android a joy to use, dont get me wrong i still think the HD2 is a awesome phone but windows is a real pain sometimes.
im just hoping HTC gets us the android 2.2 update soon

android gets updates fast ,you will buy desire , and after one month android 2.2 is released ,and when upgrading officially to it ,android 3.0 will be released , android is not stable and very un mature os

hoss_n2 said:
android gets updates fast ,you will buy desire , and after one month android 2.2 is released ,and when upgrading officially to it ,android 3.0 will be released , android is not stable and very un mature os
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android is not stable? mine hasnt let me down once since i got it, the update is adding features not fixing stability issues

sharpey said:
android is not stable? mine hasnt let me down once since i got it, the update is adding features not fixing stability issues
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you didnot understand me ,iam not talking about it ,iam talking about the version stability and the completness of features winmo
is updated nearly every two years and mainly skinning updates ,as it has alll features that a mobile could have but android gets update every 2-3 monthes , which adds new features to catch up other mature os

ahh got you now
but everyone seems really happy with 2.2 features and it has everything i had on the HD2.
like it was said above its just a personal preference thing.

Keep your HTC HD 2 android is on the way, either by dual boot, or being that of htc evo coming out, and actual rom.
The HTC HD 2 is the most powerfull device out there, and you can do whatever you want with it, no restrictions nothing, you can have a vast majority of operating systems.
Most can be ported thanks to the lovely people here at XDA.

sharpey said:
ahh got you now
but everyone seems really happy with 2.2 features and it has everything i had on the HD2.
like it was said above its just a personal preference thing.
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android 2.2 is the begining for the android to be mature ,but after 3 monthes , google announces the android 3.0 will be avaliable in q4 ,may be then it will be a better os than windows , with more options ,and specifications

ALEXRUSS55 said:
Keep your HTC HD 2 android is on the way, either by dual boot, or being that of htc evo coming out, and actual rom.
The HTC HD 2 is the most powerfull device out there, and you can do whatever you want with it, no restrictions nothing, you can have a vast majority of operating systems.
Most can be ported thanks to the lovely people here at XDA.
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An android port to the HD2 is not going to be like an android phone that came with android. It will be a long time before the port is as functional as an android phone. You're probably not going to want to use the android port full time as it will be a while before it uses all the hardware properly like bluetooth, wifi, camera, sound, etc. There could also be heating issues, battery issues, stabilty issues, etc. People seem to think that the evo rom will easily be ported over and it will be fully functional. It doesn't work like that. The touch pro's android port has been developed for over a year and it still isn't nearly as functional as a full android phone.
Don't get me wrong... I can't wait to be able to boot into android on my HD2, but I expect it to be over a year from now until it will be good enough to want to use full time instead of WinMo 6.5. HD2 is a WinMo phone, and thats the only os that it will run well for probably at least the next 6months to year. It may never run another os good enough to use full-time.

Do what your heat tells you. Just playing. Honestly, its all about what you need your phone to deliver for you.
My phone completes what I want and makes me happy. I sometimes feel the lack of apps but it is no big deal.
All I really use on a daily basis are Stocks, weather, music player, youtube app and web browser. You will obviously find more apps for android.
Personally, I dont need all those apps you find for android like optical illusions, weird sounds and bla bla bla. Sure I need an app like NBA Game Time similar to that of android but nothing that I desperately need.
I just hop on espn with skyfire or Opera 10 Mobile and Im good.
Android lacks quality games just like Windows Mobile but FPSEce helps a little my HD2.
My sisters own a Motorola Cliq and a Droid and nothing to major for me to want Android. Maybe If the developers from this site get a working android port I will be HAPPY.
Other than that, this phone fulfills my needs.
AGAIN, DO WHAT YOUR HEART SAYS.....LOL.
Don't allow others make your decision.

I bought my Misses an Iphone for christmas. The other day she was complaining it was running slow. I asked her when the last time she turned it off. " Turned it off" she said " i`ve never turned it off " just plugs it in at night to charge it up....Now thats a stable operating system.......
I love my HD2 by the way......

richie_jones said:
I bought my Misses an Iphone for christmas. The other day she was complaining it was running slow. I asked her when the last time she turned it off. " Turned it off" she said " i`ve never turned it off " just plugs it in at night to charge it up....Now thats a stable operating system.......
I love my HD2 by the way......
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I have to restart my HD2 at least once a day.

richie_jones said:
I bought my Misses an Iphone for christmas. The other day she was complaining it was running slow. I asked her when the last time she turned it off. " Turned it off" she said " i`ve never turned it off " just plugs it in at night to charge it up....Now thats a stable operating system.......
I love my HD2 by the way......
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I've not rebooted my HD2 for at least 3 weeks, and I think that was due to a tweak in BsBtweaks needing a restart to take effect.
I can put you in touch with several people who have had iphones that lock up and become unresponsive more than once a week if you want?
Complexity will always have instability.

HD2 is much more sexy than ANY other phone on the market around imo..
Besides, they are working on Android for the HD2.. And making some good progress lately..
Nothing better than a phone that could eventually even dualboot .
If you want games and apps to play about with/be cool with around your mates, get an iPhone or another type that most 'mainstream' users have.

HD2 or Desire

I know u ppl got tired of this question , but since I'm ordering new phone these days , I dunno which one to choose.
My vote will go to HD2 , since I heard there will be Android on it aswell (that was my main reason why I even thought about Desire).
I hope you kind ppl can help me solve my "problem"
Cheers,
Alex

Just get a Desire, the HD2 will never run Android as stable day-to-day as phone a designed to run the OS.

Kalavere said:
Just get a Desire, the HD2 will never run Android as stable and as day as phone designed to run the OS.
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Like I thought so, thanks for your reply.
EDIT : Also , other replies are welcome too

depends on what you need most, big screen or android.

Both , but Android on 1st place.

The Desire HD or HTC Ace is due in October basicly a HTC EVO for GSM, it may be worth waiting till that comes out before you buy...
Personally, I will jump to Android when this phone arrives, I'm done (after many years) with WM ...

Thanks for reply , I just can't wait 'till October , but thanks anyway.

pHOBIAZ7 said:
Both , but Android on 1st place.
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if android is your top priority, why is this even a debate???
There has not been one instance of Android as a primary OS on any WinMo phone to date. And that is after, what, 2 years of trying.

Don't let the aesthetics of the HD2 fool you. If your main concern is the OS, then go ahead and get the Desire. No question about it. Android will never be running 100% on the HD2 and if you're not accustom to winmo in general (which mean countless head-scratching as you're trying to make it work), you're screwed.

Then I guess imma buy Desire.
Thanks for feedback.

Actually I'm using desire ROM on hd2, working fine, they made Android really batter in a few days.. think of the advantage of a dual boot
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Hmmm , does it have any glitches / bugs w.e ?
Cuz I don't want my phone to freeze or something , and its brand new.

You bet it does. I am an ex-owner of an HD2 and I swear to God that if the guys from the service center will give me a new HD2, I`ll say "no, thanks... what about a desire?" without having any second thoughts.
Personally, I`m done with the HD2. Full of bugs/freezes/etc, and I might say that I`m not quite the average apple fanboy who wants everything to work out-of-the-box. I love tweaking and hacking, but only to an extent.

pHOBIAZ7 said:
I know u ppl got tired of this question , but since I'm ordering new phone these days , I dunno which one to choose.
My vote will go to HD2 , since I heard there will be Android on it aswell (that was my main reason why I even thought about Desire).
I hope you kind ppl can help me solve my "problem"
Cheers,
Alex
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my girfriend has the htc desire. in my opinion it has only 2 advantages over my hd2: better screen sensitivity and a brighter/more colorful screen (which i find not very natural anyway...).
the hd2 can run android now, it has a larger screen (with more natural colors) and i'm not willing to give up on wm just yet. android is very finger friendly, tons of apps and a more "secure" future ahead but i got bored with it very quickly.
so to make things short, i recommend to go with the hd2 or wait for something else...
oh, forgot to mention - your experience with the hd2 is highly dependent to the rom/radio/location "trinity". i am very happy with mine

I really wanna say: get the HD2.
An Android ROM should be made available in another month or two and with all the development behind the HD2 (on XDA of course!), it might even run Android better than the Desire some day. And who knows, the HD2 might be ported to WP 7 some time next year.
How about them apples?

nzxtneo said:
I really wanna say: get the HD2.
An Android ROM should be made available in another month or two and with all the development behind the HD2 (on XDA of course!), it might even run Android better than the Desire some day. And who knows, the HD2 might be ported to WP 7 some time next year.
How about them apples?
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I serverly doubt there will be a flashable ROM for the HD2, read here, Zarathustrax has a good knowledge of Android ports.

Kalavere said:
I serverly doubt there will be a flashable ROM for the HD2, read here, Zarathustrax has a good knowledge of Android ports.
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what are the two phones that have flashable roms

hoss_n2 said:
what are the two phones that have flashable roms
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I haven't a clue my friend, Zarathustrax is the man to ask.

I think you should get the HD2. What can the Desire do that that the HD2 can't? And that massive screen dweebs out any other phone on the market. Plus the HD2 is cheaper than the Desire.

If HD2 will get a Stable and fast Android rom.....go to HD2....you will have two SO on a big, big screen.
but just if will have android stable...in contrary....

Good Bye HD2

Today is the day, when i said good bye to my HD2.
It has been qute an experience owning the device and trying all these different WinMo, Android SD and Nand, Windows Phone 7, but i guess i got tired of all those, what is working and not working rom, and now i deceided to get a Xperia X10...
I want to thank all of the developers, testers, and all of the users of this subforum. Great job guys.

Shame... I had an X10 for about a week before I got rid for the HD2 (my second HD2) ... The X10 has a few 'quirks' of it's own but nothing reflashing can't fix.

ithink hd2 its quite good device, since all my friend complaining baout that n this on their soner device...
HTC is more experienced for PDA things than

I've got HD2 with Rafdroid and X10 (updated to 2.1). After using X10 I still come back to my second phone (I find Sense much, much more useful than Sony's firmware - especially these things that decide about phone functionality - adress book (searching is much better in Sense), phone and so on.)

I owned a X10 before but i was disappointed.

lmao. So let me get this straight, you're going from HD2 to the X10? In case that wasn't clear enough...
YOU'RE GOING FROM THE HD2 to the X10?!
lulz

Yep, i got rid of my 9 months old HD2 for a brand new X10, which has everything right out of the box. I wanted to have android for so long and i have tried qute a few sd and nand builds, but still there is something not working. i.e. i must connect to wpa2 enterprise network everyday ... no build support that... sorry hd2 ....

dddnnnggg said:
Yep, i got rid of my 9 months old HD2 for a brand new X10, which has everything right out of the box. I wanted to have android for so long and i have tried qute a few sd and nand builds, but still there is something not working. i.e. i must connect to wpa2 enterprise network everyday ... no build support that... sorry hd2 ....
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I hope you enjoy the Experience (get it lol)
imho, (and i provide phone tech support for virgin), you are correct to say its all the out of the box, but the build quality, mtbf*, useability, screen quality, reception and software are much below the Leo.
Don't forget that SE don't as a rule supply updates for their phones, and don't expect to update the rom on the X10 this centuary.
You would have made a better choice to go for a Wildfire S
Mean time between failures

If I was you, id try and sell the x10 and get a superior phone, perhaps an Hd2, if you need advice on running wp7 and android, we can help
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lude219 said:
lmao. So let me get this straight, you're going from HD2 to the X10? In case that wasn't clear enough...
YOU'RE GOING FROM THE HD2 to the X10?!
lulz
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What he said ^

Gosh guys, if he gets a new phone don't kill him over it. Fact is, our hd2 is non comparable to a true android phone. So it's obvious he's got a better android phone than us. Don't trash him about it.
PS. if any of you guys try to tell me that our hd2's are faster than android phones, root the android phone, tweak it, then flash a custom rom / kernel, then you'll see that android phone flying beyond what our hd2's can do.

niceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Yeah I would think the HD2 the better of the two ?

X10 has locked bootloader - there are few custom ROMs and SE said they won't update the official Android in Xperia.
You wanted Android from the box - why not Galaxy S?

Pabliell said:
X10 has locked bootloader - there are few custom ROMs and SE said they won't update the official Android in Xperia.
You wanted Android from the box - why not Galaxy S?
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Because the galaxy s is known for it's hardware problems. However I find the problems insignificant in my case and opinion.
Now personally I find you choice of the X10 a bad one, as the desire, desire hd or even desire z would have been a better choice. But hey, congrats on the new device. :3

Hi guys! i'll be going to singapore soon to buy my htc hd2. Missed all the tweakings. Had an xda, then xda exec then got an htc shift (still with me now). Looking forward to have one soon.

You chahged hd2 for xperia? If I were you I wouldn't tell anyone about this stupidity. You are crazy, man!

When i had a Xperia X10 i waited 4 months for an update. And not to 2.2 or 2.3 but
from 1.6 to 2.1.(The first and last update for the Xperia X10 family.)
When i got the update guess what, still no multitouch, no adobe flash player,same laggy Timescape and Mediascape.And did not mention the BIG quadrant score: somewhere around 460-500, with the update.
So i did own a Xperia X10i for 4 months and i can say from experience that the HD2 android it is far better than the Xperia X10i.
This is only my opinion. I was happy to change the X10 for a HD2.
You did the opposite.Hope you will be happy with it.

[Q] Htc HD2 (leo) is stil a TOP Device!!!!

Just curious what people have to say about this statement...

yes it is , think about it you have 3 phones in one (for now (wm,wp7,android))
wm 500 euro+-
wp7 500 euro+-
android 500 euro+-

In my opinion its the best device but the most people think the phone is "crap" because it is almost 2 years old... and that's wrong! My HD2 is better than DHD and the other ones

Yep, superram froyo still remains one of the fastest roms out there, even faster than nand to me. In fact, it is even faster than my old nexus one and on par with a Vibrant on Darky's 9.3!

Long Live the HD2

I got my own prayer mat - arab worship "Allah"
I worship my HD2 - feel guilty tho' as i'm only praying, praising and thanking my HD2 50 times a day - it deserves more!!
will try to improve error of my ways ;-)
matt

its the best.
It has everything even 720P video recording on windows phone 7 ^^ I mean what more do you really expect of a 2 year old phone

I don't want to jinx it now but I really would not have a single clue what phone would replace my HD2 (running Gingerbread MDJ 2.6) if it went bad!!
love it!

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I consider it one of the best phones on the market. Especially considering it's age. The amount of internal memory on the american HD2's is off the chain.
HD2 > Girlfriend

Overall yes i would say so. Reasons being you can get it relatively cheap, it has great/modern hardware, able to boot 4 OSes, meaning it can probably suit everyone's needs, stable/smooth/fast.
However the best device in terms of performance? That's hard to say. In android? It's obviously beaten by other 1ghz android devices. WP7? People are saying it beats even the HD7, but are they comparing it to a HD7 with tweaks also or just stock? Ubuntu it obviously can't compare to a real computer. Winmo it is the best.
But as said, its still the best device overall, atleast in my perspective.

I was eagerly waiting for the 2011 WMC to see what new phones were headed our way this year. I was thouroughly dissapointed to be fair. If I had to get a new phone right now, I would get the best phone currently on the market today which is.. an HD2!

You're damn right !
The more I become familiar with my Leo the more I'm proud of having bought it instead of any common Ifone..

Yeah its still a top device.People are still asking what phone is that or is that the new one,its still a looker,nice and smart,ok its not as nice as HD7 in looks but it can still perform just aswell,This was htcs answer to the Toshiba TG01 and relesed it back in nov 2009 at £499,most people have forgoten the TG01 now,had a look on handtec.co.uk ,Desire HD £369.59 HD7 £371.99 HD2 £367.19 just goes to show,this phone is still holding its value well,its still more expensive new than a desire,all these came out after HD2,you got huge backing on here.it boots several OSs,you cant really ask any more from a phone,its still an amazing phone,never known a device like it and i look a desire hd or an incredible S and i think,my phone can do that,just as good.The HD2,its deffinently a real iPhone killer

i had mine for almost a year now )
tried WM6.5 stock and cooked, android & WP7 a while back
now running imilika`s ginger-sense 2.1 ( very lovely BTW )
the point is, everytime i flash a new OS or a different rom, i feel like having a new device, every OS has its features and feel
its the best device ever

yes yes no 1 ......best phone for now i am using android and love zynge poker live............

What if you ask this question on a Steve's worshipers forum ?