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Hell Yeah ! TomTom 5 out in May !!

TT5 is coming for sure !
Checkout it out here ....
http://www.pocketgpsworld.com/tomtom-mobile-5.php
http://www.pocketgps.co.uk/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=17753
Comes with built-in FULL postcode support = SWEET

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Missed this: http://www.tomtom.com/products/product.php?ID=75&Language=1

Do they have an online service with daily or at least weekly map updates that doesn't cost a fortune?
If not - why bother.

Which company offers this for Sweden?

Loboman said:
Which company offers this for Sweden?
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As far as I know - no one offers what I am asking for in any market :-(
Before it is available a GPS is just not worth the price compared to a standard map for car navigation. On a boat or in the wilderness - sure, these environments don't change that often.

Navigated from northern Sweden to Barcelona with TomTom3 without ever finding a broken route. It even kept us clear from the autobahn in Germany, because you can't drive a light truck with a light trailer on it on Sundays.. Strange.. Had to re-route manually though, but it sure got us where we wanted and we were back on autobahn about 5 minutes after the ban ended.
I agree that they should offer updates, but once every quarter would be enough, I think.

http://www.pocketgps.co.uk/tomtom-navigator-pda-5.php
Review of Tomtom5 on PPC and PalmOS.

Loboman said:
Navigated from northern Sweden to Barcelona with TomTom3 without ever finding a broken route. It even kept us clear from the autobahn in Germany, because you can't drive a light truck with a light trailer on it on Sundays.. Strange.. Had to re-route manually though, but it sure got us where we wanted and we were back on autobahn about 5 minutes after the ban ended.
I agree that they should offer updates, but once every quarter would be enough, I think.
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I guess you still followed at least b-roads?
To follow b-roads I don't need a GPS, my old map will do just as well as long as I have my wife next to me.
It is when there is a sudden change to the route because of road works or tragic jams I need a GPS to suggest an alternative route. But with maps and traffic information older than ten to fifteen minutes this is of little help.
I think 200sek (£15) is about what one month of constantly updated maps for one country is worth for a private user. And with constant I mean at least every 15 minutes.

B-roads? Hehe, We were directed on roads the Germans themselves didn't know existed But without a doubt, they were really fast when going from one bigger road to another.
I bet you'll not find those 15 minute map updates this decade. Traffic info in one thing (which TomTom offers, although not in Sweden), but changed maps.. I think not..

Ok, you don't need to actually update the entire map every fifteen minutes. But you should at least get an update everytime there has been a change to the real world that affects the map. And it should definitely be updated with accurate speed limits.

If you don't like it don't buy it!
I personally think it's a usefull tool, I'm currently looking to relocate to a new area that I don't know and have found TomTom a fantastic aid when driving around cities you don't know looking for property.
Just put the post code in and drive from door to door
Oh and if you subscribe to the Traffic service you can get Live Traffic information delivered to your device by GPRS........ well you can in the UK anyway

UK and Holland has the traffic info only..
Accurate speed limits would be great. I don't know any program that offers this though. About the map updating, It's TeleAtlas who buys the data from local companies and sells it to the makers of GPS programs. I doubt even the local companies update very often, but I read somewhere that TeleAtlas wants users to tell them about errors in the maps so that they can update and have more accurate maps for the next release.

I think the main problem is the price model. Instead of selling cumulative updates at an affordable subscription cost, whenever ther is a new version of the map you have to buy an entirely new map! This is how it used to work in the old days, when maps had to be printed in books and put on a shelf in a shop.
And why are the maps by country or region? Give me the entire thing and let me pay for what I use! Not until I view or route through a part of the map on the device should I be charged for it.

Free navigation solution?

Hey there,
is there any free navigation solution out there? There is a german program called oe-navi, but it's not customed for TP2 yet.
Is tehre any compareable program, especially for germany, suisse, austria and norway?
Bye,
Christohper

Google Maps
But two be honest: if you want a good and working navigation --> go and buy iGO8 from NavNGo. Got mine from www.bitmart.eu and this soft is really great!

If you have an unlocked HTC version of TP2, your phone came with a special CoPilot offer: http://www.alk.com/htc/

Amaze gps. It's pretty slow but it works and it is free. It also has a pretty good coverage.

tvk said:
Amaze gps. It's pretty slow but it works and it is free. It also has a pretty good coverage.
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As far as I remember, the offer was (in the UK at least) for a free 15-day trial of CoPilot ... is it really worth the effort?

Looking for the same solution!!

Nav4all is free until 1-1-2010
http://nav4all.com/site2/nav4all.com/index.php

free to use until 01/01/10 or free to download until then?

Bing has turn by turn directions, unlike google maps.

I recently tried Waze, Nav4All, and Amaze. While they technically worked, they were all slow, had routing problems (IE: driving down a major road, they would tell me to turn left into a housing area, drive 1 or 2 blocks, turn right, drive 1 or 2 blocks, turn right, then turn left back onto the major road), and in my opinion, they all had cumbersome interfaces.
I just bought Copilot Live 8 last night, and it is vastly superior. If you are in the US like I am, it is on sale for $20 (the sale ends tonight) at http://www.alk.com/copilot/

shdwphnx said:
I recently tried Waze, Nav4All, and Amaze. While they technically worked, they were all slow, had routing problems (IE: driving down a major road, they would tell me to turn left into a housing area, drive 1 or 2 blocks, turn right, drive 1 or 2 blocks, turn right, then turn left back onto the major road), and in my opinion, they all had cumbersome interfaces.
I just bought Copilot Live 8 last night, and it is vastly superior. If you are in the US like I am, it is on sale for $20 (the sale ends tonight) at http://www.alk.com/copilot/
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I bought the copilot since the reviews were generally good. Now I'll just need to wait for my phone to arrive

Excellent bit of kit
I've got to agree with shdwphnx, the TP2 combined with Copilot8 works brilliantly, shame that traffic is not available for UK yet.

I just use google maps it works fine for me and is most importantly accurate and free.

Co-Pilot 8 Trial/ Garmin Trial.

I had a ROM with a co-pilot trial on it. Unfortunately the ROM wasn't that good. I switched to NRG ROM which is great but now i want to install the co-pilot trial. There is one on the HTC website but only for HTC TP2 - i have T-mobile US version. Any idea where i can get a trial?
Ant Trials available on the Garmin solution?

just install that one and it should work. The beauty of having wm os is that program can work on different hardware as long as the operating system matches. It's the same as installing an app on a dell machine or hp machine.

I purchased CoPilot during the Thanksgiving weekend when they had it on sale for $19.99. I'm very pleased with it so far on my TP2. I think it's $34.99 or something like that now. Watch their website for specials from time to time.

azzzz said:
just install that one and it should work. The beauty of having wm os is that program can work on different hardware as long as the operating system matches. It's the same as installing an app on a dell machine or hp machine.
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Unfortunately to download you need to enter your serial number and it won't accept the serial numbers from Tmobile TP2, only the HTC branded ones. Tmous want's you to sign up for there $10/month service! This is why I'm looking for a cab.

Co-Pilot 8 is on sale - just $19.99. Decided to give it a go. It works great! Sure, Garmin or TomTom may have a couple of extra nice-to-have's, but they are $100. For the basic get me from A to B and help me find places, Co-Pilot can't be beat!

It will all be downhill for TomTom, Garmin and all those other gps companies once Google Releases Google Navigation for Windows mobile like they did for the droid.
TomTom and Garmin's stock fell the month google released google navigation on the droid.

I just bought co pilot.
I am having issues with it. Anyone else?
It tells me to turn as, or after I am turning... (found this out while testing it, thankfully) I have changed the turn warning to the max.. but still no good. This is no good if I am relying on it for directions, I am bound to get lost. Also, the distance to a turn is always way off.. I can be right at a corner where I am supposed to turn, at a stop sign, and the distance to the turn will say 150 feet ahead. and it keeps telling me "Make right turn just ahead" even though I am right there.
Was testing it again today, and it had me go in circles for 10 minutes! No Lie!! It kept saying "Make a right, then another right" I know, I didn't have to... I just wanted to see how long it would stay in that loop.. finally I had to break it by going a direction it did not tell me to go.. then it recalculated the route.
Frustrating!!!

Haven't had this trouble on mine. Have you had Copilot check for all of the updates inside the application?

kmx said:
It will all be downhill for TomTom, Garmin and all those other gps companies once Google Releases Google Navigation for Windows mobile like they did for the droid.
TomTom and Garmin's stock fell the month google released google navigation on the droid.
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I don't think so, they have one HUGE advantage over Google, they work without cell service. That's pretty important up here where I live (Northwestern California), and in many areas across the west.

Good point. I wasn't thinking about that since I am in Southern California and there is basically service everywhere here.
I guess it depends on where you live.
But that Co-Pilot giving the wrong directions thing scares me. Imagine if you were going to an area you don't know well

kmx said:
Good point. I wasn't thinking about that since I am in Southern California and there is basically service everywhere here.
I guess it depends on where you live.
But that Co-Pilot giving the wrong directions thing scares me. Imagine if you were going to an area you don't know well
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Well, I was born (Riverside) and raised (West Covina. Proud Grad of the Covina HS Class of 1990) in SoCal, and I know they have plenty of dead spots in the mountains and deserts, but in the urban L.A./OC/IE area, you're definitely right.
I have yet to find a program that doesn't make mistakes, especially in remote or very rural areas, or in very new housing developments. I travel extensively across NorCal for work (everything from just north of Santa Rosa to the Oregon Border, and everything from just north of Sacramento to the Oregon Border and northeast to the Nevada Border), everything from Redding at 100,000 to the middle of nowhere, and have had GPS Programs and even dedicated units be off on occasion, sometimes by miles. The thing is, these programs assume an address should be at a certain point on the map, and most times it is, but sometimes it can pinpoint it at the wrong location, and they can be pretty frustating if you're in a remote area with few or no people around to ask. Or a development can be so new that it's not in any map database yet.

@ ryotgz: No I haven't checked from with in the program for an update... that did dawn on me since I just bought it! LOL I will give it a try. I have contacted ALK (the distributors of co pilot) but have yet to hear back from them....
@ Cali-railroader and kmx:
I understand that an occasional wrong direction, especially in rural areas, is going to happen. It is technology afterall, and none of it is perfect. However, these issues have all happened in busy, and old, metro areas in the mid atlantic region.

Google Navigation available in 11 new countries!

Google Mobile Blog
Austria, Belgium, Canada, Denmark, France, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, Portugal, Spain, and Switzerland
Oh, and is it a new thing that it is for 1.6 devices and up?

I have my N1 for about 2 weeks..... nice to hear this! finally!

Saw it this morning, one of the good news that i heard

Meh, still nothing for Asian countries

wish they would change the voice. changing it in the settings isn't doing it for me.

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Oh, and is it a new thing that it is for 1.6 devices and up?
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No, that's always been the case.

Awesom
Works well for me

Switzerland works now tested it and everything ok.

I tried it out today and put in the address of my office on the way to work. It worked well for the most part, but as I approach my work I have to make a left turn onto the side street my office is on and instead of telling me to turn left there the nav told me to continue to the next intersection, pull a u-turn, and then make a right turn once I got back to the street my office is on... Obviously I didn't do that, but had I not been familiar route I might have had to. U-turns at traffic lights is illegal here!
I don't think it's safe to replace all of the TomTom and other dedicated devices yet.

Why does the technological world always forget that australia exists. Cmon google, give us navigation too
Rellikzephyr
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RellikZephyr said:
Why does the technological world always forget that australia exists. Cmon google, give us navigation too
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I suspect that Google rightfully has the Sh1ts with Australia at the moment. Doubt they will be rushing to give us NAV.

Now if we could just get Google Voice in Canada, I'd be all set!

Australians ride around on kangaroos and their offspring navigate from the pouch by pointing and barking " go this way "

It's too bad Australia wasn't included in the list, but I think I remember you guys getting paid apps before Canada did if that's any consolation. Map licensing is an expensive game, so it's probably just a matter of market size.

works like a charm in Spain, but it drains battery like hell! It's a shame that traffic info is not useful in Spain because that's one of the strongest points for me.

damn our Singapore government has given Google full real time traffic info ... c'mon google.

Android pushed the google map update to me, I'm in Canada and have tried it. It rocks!

[Q] Which GPS is best for G.Tab??

Hey,which GPS software is good for G.Tab??Beside the stock GPS provide by TAB??

I have a tab on order but haven't gotten it yet. However, I have used copilot live on my g1, original mytouch, behold 2, and on my vibrant, and it works very well. It isn't free, but you download the maps to your sd card, so the gps works whether you have a data connection Or not... even in airplane mode.
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I use NavDroyd From the market. It costs about $6 USD but well worth the money. Its not as feature filled at the big name packages, but serves my purposes well. It includes global map that you can download regions partially or in full. My only complaint is that it doesn't have street address info to search on, so I plan ahead and do it in Google Maps, then set a pin to the address in NavDroyd.
Another minor annoyance is it doesn't navigate you down one way roads properly. I found out the hard way in Manhattan last week
I still love it though. It gets updated often and keeps getting better.

I beleive for asean region. . . PAPAGO X5 is the only one good to go. However the navigation seems to be a bit out for our Tab. It brings u all over the place instead of a straight road. I am wondering why becos on another Android device it works well. All settings are the same
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I've tried CoPilot and Sygic Mobile Maps 10 in the UK and CoPilot wins hands down between the two. Sygic does not scale properly on the Tab and isn't designed to use the soft keys for Menu etc. CoPilot looks excellent on the large screen.

try sygic aura 2.o its work perfectly on gtab

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try sygic aura 2.o its work perfectly on gtab
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I didn't realise Aura was now available for Android. I might take a look at that.

I got Copilot Live 8 working last night. Looks quite good but it is rather slow, at least feels slower than on N1.

Just saw that copilot live has done special pricing for thanksgiving... north american version is 9.99, and the usa only version is just 2.99(i paid 29.99 for my copy of the NA maps 2 years ago)... I went ahead and bought the usa version last night even though I already have the north america version for my vibrant so that I can run one on my tab when I get it, and still be able to use the other on my vibrant... I've been happy with it on all of my android phones so far, I hope it runs as nicely on the tab...
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tested copilot on the tab yet?

ajrogers111 said:
Just saw that copilot live has done special pricing for thanksgiving...
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I saw this too - since I'm heading to Florida for a few weeks early next year, I bought the USA version. I've been using Copilot since it came out for Android and I think it's fantastic. At that price, words fail me!
Regards,
Dave

Hmm can you use paypal to pay for Co-pilot?
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I've been using Navigon in the US and it works very well on the tab

Now that you guys mentioned GPS programs for the tab, i will be going to the states for a month and a half ( yes really good vacations ), and since i am based on greece, i want a gps program that i can pre-cache maps on it without using my data plan since we all know that roaming charges are over the roof.
So i was watching closely at Google Maps that a user called Brut, modified and it supposedly run pre-cached maps on all zoom levels 0-14 from andnav and you can even download the tiles and put them on the sdcard and have them.
Well i dont really wanna bother the dudes at his thread because its somehow 300+ pages, and i wanna ask if someone else used it because i am gonna try it and see if it works.
Any help is appreciated.

norm2002 said:
I didn't realise Aura was now available for Android. I might take a look at that.
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I'll be trialing Aura, it comes with a free 7 day trial.

I am also trying Aura, so far so good. I think I am gonna purchase it ..

sedde said:
Now that you guys mentioned GPS programs for the tab, i will be going to the states for a month and a half ( yes really good vacations ), and since i am based on greece, i want a gps program that i can pre-cache maps on it without using my data plan since we all know that roaming charges are over the roof.
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Copilot USA is $2.99 in the Market!
Just buy it whilst it's that cheap as it won't stay at that price for long (Thanksgiving sale).
Regards,
Dave

i use aura and it is working well. i use it @ Puerto Rico and the map is up to date

foxmeister said:
Copilot USA is $2.99 in the Market!
Just buy it whilst it's that cheap as it won't stay at that price for long (Thanksgiving sale).
Regards,
Dave
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It can pre-cache maps and use turn-by-turn directions ?

Strange thing happened to me.
I just got a german SGT and D/L latest firmware (via kies - XXJK5)
I installed a Navigon .apk that I found somewhere and it automatically D/L'd and installed all the maps for Australia and NZ for free. Nice app as well.