Not a Developer - want a deeper understanding of the OS. - Hero CDMA General

I am computer savvy, began building PCs in the late 70's - early 80's, beginning with DOS 1.0. I know a little basic, a little UNIX, etc., but am not a programmer.
I am as psyched about my HTC Hero Android as I am about Windows 7. I love it! Like all users, I download and delete apps on a fairly regular basis. I also rooted my phone to OS 2.1. Here's my (minor) dilemma; the deleted apps (I think) leave artifacts, files and folders. When I rooted the phone, photos and other files are now in different folders. I also see twice the number of photos and wallpaper as the system seems to be creating logo sized duplicates.
I've been searching, without success, for something that will tell me what the file/folder hierarchy is. What's the structure? How to determine which apps use which folders. Which folders are used by the OS and the mobile OS? I want to be able to keep the memory and SD clean just as I do with my PCs, as well as copy files to the appropriate folders so that they will appear correctly in whatever app should be
calling them up.
I hope all this makes sense. And I hope you know of some source of information, be it a book, blog, or other, that will provide some insight in this domain.

Thanks for the help!
I rooted to Damageless' FRESH 2.1.
I have the sdk but have not opened it yet. I'll check out Android Commander.
I have sone some UNIX and did quite a bit in MTOS on large Telecom voice switches, so I can probably eek my way through.
Thanks for the direction BWBL.
Brian

basically Android is a dalvik virtual machine(stripped down java for embedded devices essentially) that is sitting on top of a Linux kernel. My understanding is that unless a program has root, it cannot access internal storage, especially write access. All prefs are saved to a database and applications are completely sandboxed, therefore no artifacts will remain on internal memory. Unfortunately the same cannot be said for your SD card. If you grant a program access to your SD card it can **** all over it and the OS doesn't. protect you. I have found that HTCs stuff is guilty of copying pictures all over.

bnbaldwin53 said:
I am computer savvy, began building PCs in the late 70's - early 80's, beginning with DOS 1.0. I know a little basic, a little UNIX, etc., but am not a programmer.
I am as psyched about my HTC Hero Android as I am about Windows 7. I love it! Like all users, I download and delete apps on a fairly regular basis. I also rooted my phone to OS 2.1. Here's my (minor) dilemma; the deleted apps (I think) leave artifacts, files and folders. When I rooted the phone, photos and other files are now in different folders. I also see twice the number of photos and wallpaper as the system seems to be creating logo sized duplicates.
I've been searching, without success, for something that will tell me what the file/folder hierarchy is. What's the structure? How to determine which apps use which folders. Which folders are used by the OS and the mobile OS? I want to be able to keep the memory and SD clean just as I do with my PCs, as well as copy files to the appropriate folders so that they will appear correctly in whatever app should be
calling them up.
I hope all this makes sense. And I hope you know of some source of information, be it a book, blog, or other, that will provide some insight in this domain.
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1)Backup apps with androzip.
2)Backup the entire sd to pc(you may need to format but should not).
3)Wipe(data,delvic,uid mismatches). This will get rid of those apk leftovers/uta fc's....
4)Install a fresh copy of damage
5)Now right after initial boot, back up your sd card file structure
6)Drop your pc backup folders in their corresponding freshly set-up counterparts
7)Do yourself a favor and get a good file browser and you can check out the system heirarchy for yourself. These are MY personal faves,
a)androzip-explore sd/free market
b)root explorer-explore system/paid xda
c)astro-both free/market
d)android commander-for pc free/google
e)android sdk is another invaluable tool free/google
If you need further assistance, feel free to pm. Good Luck

Awesome! Thanks Magnus.

Related

autorun.inf

so something very strange showed up on my g1... when i was looking through my sdcard with astro this came up in a autorun.inf file...
[autorun]
;fnldyysbuqcvzpnrofhariaepd
shellexecute="resycled\boot.com h:"
;msfsrztwdzfsnkkeainjwdvdpgqnwgncfzfzivmzruxyrxpvmnnz
shell\Open\command="resycled\boot.com h:"
;sgtlhkaeymrvtiwpwnbswqrwenzajrpipwwrfrjrjyxwuvqysjjqaqxducqznobylygiiucvdzmllqw
The file appears where it is calling it from and it is a windows file but why would it show up on my android?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_virus
aww crap so now we have android viruses now? how the heck do we know if we have any and how to get rid of them?
sadly, this is where iphone is clearly not a problem (everyone hates pc stuff and always trying to sabotage)
hbguy
hbguy said:
aww crap so now we have android viruses now? how the heck do we know if we have any and how to get rid of them?
sadly, this is where iphone is clearly not a problem (everyone hates pc stuff and always trying to sabotage)
hbguy
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What? This is a Windows virus that simply propagates by copying itself to all mounted drives (note the autorun.inf file). This has nothing to do with Android.
i don't think it is a Gphone virus, it is a windows virus.
Run a fulls can on your computer. The g1 isnt affected. It is based on the linux kernel. Windows is a mainstream OS so righting virus's has max impact since they will work on most PC's
With linux however, there are so many variations and such a lower number of users its that a virus would have low impact being spread. A linux virus wouldnmt work on all distrubutions without being coded to work on all making the file much larger.
Also linux has much tighter security permissions, if a virus did infect, the damage it could cause would be limited to permissions are set for the current user. It would not be able to modify system files, or copy itself into places without permissions.
This is why i run linux. No virus checker, no firewall, no spyware checker. There are also other advantages of linux/mac systems.
I have been running linux for 9 months, and now only have 2gb freespace. I have windows aswell. Linux runs as fast and smooth as it did when i installed it, windows has prgressvvly gotten sllower.
So, your g1 should be quite safe.
Disinfect your pc and memory card, to avoid spreading it.
Run a fulls can on your computer. The g1 isnt affected. It is based on the linux kernel. Windows is a mainstream OS so righting virus's has max impact since they will work on most PC's
With linux however, there are so many variations and such a lower number of users its that a virus would have low impact being spread. A linux virus wouldnmt work on all distrubutions without being coded to work on all making the file much larger.
Also linux has much tighter security permissions, if a virus did infect, the damage it could cause would be limited to permissions are set for the current user. It would not be able to modify system files, or copy itself into places without permissions.
This is why i run linux. No virus checker, no firewall, no spyware checker. There are also other advantages of linux/mac systems.
I have been running linux for 9 months, and now only have 2gb freespace. I have windows aswell. Linux runs as fast and smooth as it did when i installed it, windows has prgressvvly gotten sllower.
So, your g1 should be quite safe.
Disinfect your pc and memory card, to avoid spreading it.
It looks like Trojan Horse SHeur.CODS also known as W32.Tideserv according to a few places I've looked. I connected my Fuze to my laptop when I got home from work tonight. First as a Disk Drive then as ActiveSync for my Outlook. I played with customizations all day long at work and didn't see this particular folder (I cleaned/organized my storage card). After connecting to my Vista Ultimate laptop I found the folder "RESYCLED" on my storage card root, and it contains only one file "boot". I was curious like the rest of you - was my first thought. My became then . I just scanned my laptop yesterday night and found nothing.
Here's the link to Symantec's analysis of the threat: http://www.symantec.com/security_response/writeup.jsp?docid=2008-121016-4048-99&tabid=2
Apparently it's a recent discovery - Dec 10th.
In case you want to know if you're possibly infected, the symptoms are:
RESYCLED\boot.com in the root of your OS drive and USB storage device
autorun.inf in the root of your OS drive and/or USB storage device that contains something similar to my example below - it is created as a protected system file so you will need to go into Folder Options and uncheck "Hide Protected Operating System Files" so that you can see it
For example, my autorun.inf file contained:
Code:
[autorun]
;hkugpkenxpvzxhsntkierhcflipocsxsrvghnqpn
shellexecute="resycled\boot.com c:"
;toptzsxuizytvxhntkskeqaayeqturkjpgueqxyuyk
shell\Open\command="resycled\boot.com c:"
;lqrpqpoblodjeuitprbtdcgswwvvmbkwrxpyskfkondjsvinrgfyrabdpuyehckfjkaucmigadz
I tried simply deleting the files but they were recreated by whatever caused it within 2-3 minutes (literally enough time to alt+tab and add to my post and alt+tab back to the C:/ window).
As soon as I find a way to get rid of it without it recreating the files I will be happy to post it to this thread. It managed to forcefully redirect me away from Malwarebytes.org which has freeware that is supposed to remove this issue.
This is an old post but i got rid of it as soon as i found it i run Outpost pro 09 and i blocked a thing that poped up to propigate it. also blocked all other access to that file as i didnt know what it was. Even still i only reboot my desktop which it was on once every 3 weeks so i cleaned it off all my devices and network disk before any reboots.

Drop Box/Online Storage

Not sure if you guys have used this but Ive found it pretty handy for online storage. Called drop box, you get 2Gb free and can upgrade and get more if you need it!
http://db.tt/2yz87DL
If anyone else has found simliar apps that offer more storage would love to know so just post here!
ShaunD103 said:
Not sure if you guys have used this but Ive found it pretty handy for online storage. Called drop box, you get 2Gb free and can upgrade and get more if you need it!
http://db.tt/2yz87DL
If anyone else has found simliar apps that offer more storage would love to know so just post here!
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Right. And by clicking that referral link above, both parties get a little extra space.
It's a pretty popular online storage / file sharing service and along with the DropBox Android app, a great extension for storage on tablets.
gammaRascal said:
Right. And by clicking that referral link above, both parties get a little extra space.
It's a pretty popular online storage / file sharing service and along with the DropBox Android app, a great extension for storage on tablets.
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Indeed, so far loving it!
Another online storage tool is Spideroak. It works across many platforms including Android and Linux. I am still in the process of testing it out. Not quite as intuitive as Dropbox. But I used the promo code *worldbackupday* and got a free upgrade to 5GB of storage. Not bad.
I'm using ubuntu one for my tablet and pc with ubuntu
Wysłane z Acera A500
Just trying out Asus Web Storage. It has a very cheap option for unlimited storage.... Tempting!
I personally can't think of any use for these online storage systems. It would be okay if you could mount them and then have all your applications be able to access the files there directly, but if you always have to copy stuff back and forth first then... meh.
Well the great thing about DropBox is that it integrates into windows just like a regular folder.
Once you've installed the application (which has a very small footprint) you can use the Windows 'Send To' context menu option and send anything to the DrobBox folder on your computer and it syncs with the account, making whatever you put in there available from any web-connected device. (either in a public or private folder which you can also set up)
You can also setup shared folders between people/teams which has a semi-type check-in/check-out feature that shows when others are working on them. So, say I'm working on a design doc - I can open it directly from my DropBox folder (since its a regular windows folder) make changes, edits etc, save it and it syncs the new version with anyone else I'm sharing the folder with.
As far as the tablet goes, it really is an extension to storage but only in a minimalist sense. Launching the Android App shows you all your DropBox folders and you can navigate though folders and open files or download them to your tab (without having to mount the tab to your computer or do that SD card dance). The primary point being, you can access them directly from the DropBox app and not actually have them on your tab.
I use it mainly to store books and other documents (also my bootanimations and screenshots) so when I want to access them (or give access to them) I can share the link, or open the files directly on my tab - make changes, save and it saves to DropBox.
It really is flawless and elegant.
gammaRascal said:
It really is flawless and elegant.
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It's also entirely reliant on people and systems over which you have no control. It can fail without warning, just because something between you and their servers goes wrong, and you have zero assurance of security either.
I hate the "cloud". I think it's stupid, pointless and potentially downright dangerous. You have zero control over your data or who has access to your data.
FloatingFatMan said:
It's also entirely reliant on people and systems over which you have no control. It can fail without warning, just because something between you and their servers goes wrong, and you have zero assurance of security either.
I hate the "cloud". I think it's stupid, pointless and potentially downright dangerous. You have zero control over your data or who has access to your data.
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What.are.you.talking.about?
All that reads like over sensitive hyperbole and paranoia to me.
You're suggesting that just because you have files in your DropBox folder that it's unsecure?
Anything can fail without warning - that's hardly an ongoing and preventative concern of mine. I could turn on the light in my bathroom and *might* pop and yet, here we are. I'm not about to take a flashlight in with me every single time *just in case*.
Your HDD can fail. Your CPU can pop. Your MB can short... I mean, what are you expecting? Putting files on DropBox is no more unsecure than burning it to a DVD or copying it to a Flash drive or leaving it on your HDD.
There are *levels* of security and DropBox is far more secure than you give it credit. If security is a serious concern of yours, turn off the internet.
And regarding the cloud. See paragraph 2.
gammaRascal said:
Well the great thing about DropBox is that it integrates into windows just like a regular folder.
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I know it does on Windows, but my tablet doesn't run Windows.
As far as the tablet goes, it really is an extension to storage but only in a minimalist sense. Launching the Android App shows you all your DropBox folders and you can navigate though folders and open files or download them to your tab (without having to mount the tab to your computer or do that SD card dance). The primary point being, you can access them directly from the DropBox app and not actually have them on your tab.
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That's the whole point why I don't like these kinds of things: it's cumbersome if I always have to go through this or that application first in order to use a file. It should just be mounted on a specific directory and that's that. I can only hope someone will create something like that for Android soon.
I wonder though if there is any way of mounting SSH connections, like for example as through Fuse as is possible on Linux. Then I wouldn't have to worry about these kinds of things at all as I have ample amounts of storage space on my server.
The company I work for, one of the largest IT corporations in Europe, SELLS cloud services. I know what I'm talking about.
Your files are not secure, no matter the assurances you're given, and Dropbox has had some pretty major security flaws in the quite recent past. And as a recent screwup on Amazon's cloud services recently showed, if something goes wrong or some dumbass makes a mistake, you might not even get your data back intact. That sort of thing happens a lot more often than you think, too.
Hell, we sell the bloody services to the world, but our own internal network services are down more often than a whores knickers!
FloatingFatMan said:
The company I work for, one of the largest IT corporations in Europe, SELLS cloud services. I know what I'm talking about.
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I'm not questioning whether you know or don't know what you're talking about.
FloatingFatMan said:
Your files are not secure, no matter the assurances you're given, and Dropbox has had some pretty major security flaws in the quite recent past. And as a recent screwup on Amazon's cloud services recently showed, if something goes wrong or some dumbass makes a mistake, you might not even get your data back intact. That sort of thing happens a lot more often than you think, too.
Hell, we sell the bloody services to the world, but our own internal network services are down more often than a whores knickers!
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They are secure. Which, as you know, is a relative term.
If you need *more* security then don't use it. I don't know how much simpler it can be.
WereCatf said:
I know it does on Windows, but my tablet doesn't run Windows.
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That's why there is an Android App. The service is a ubiquitous sharing that acts like a regular Windows folder while in the Windows environment. It's not *beholden* to the Windows environment.
WereCatf said:
That's the whole point why I don't like these kinds of things: it's cumbersome if I always have to go through this or that application first in order to use a file. It should just be mounted on a specific directory and that's that. I can only hope someone will create something like that for Android soon.
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I'm not sure how you can suggest it's cumbersome if you haven't tried it. Open the DropBox application, navigate to a file and select it and it opens in whatever app you have it set to open. They only different between than and opening a native application and then finding the file you want to open and opening it is that using the DropBox method, the file has to be downloaded first - which maybe is a thing for you, I don't know.
If you want it on your tab, select the file and download it - it saves to the local DropBox folder and at that point you can access it locally like any other file. The only other option is to manually put the file on your tablet - via cable, SD card, email - whatever method you see fit. To me, *that's* cumbersome.
Like I said, DropBox is more about access than storage. People use DropBox because they want access to files over the web in the same manner they would over a home network (without using bloated VNC's and multiple programs). If you have no need for such a function then DropBox doesn't sound like something you'd use.
gammaRascal said:
I'm not sure how you can suggest it's cumbersome if you haven't tried it. Open the DropBox application, navigate to a file and select it and it opens in whatever app you have it set to open. They only different between than and opening a native application and then finding the file you want to open and opening it is that using the DropBox method, the file has to be downloaded first - which maybe is a thing for you, I don't know.
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It doesn't differ at all from opening file manager, navigating to samba share and downloading a file from there. That's why I said I'd like something that allows me to mount the whole thing as a regular directory on my tablet, THEN it would be useful. Like for example, the eBook reader I have shows as a collection all the books I have. If the cloud storage was mounted on a directory I could just point the eBook reader to that directory and POOF, they'd all be visible and accessible without having to copy anything back-and-forth.
Unfortunately there seems to be no such service for Android. Atleast not yet :/
If you have no need for such a function then DropBox doesn't sound like something you'd use.
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Look, I'm not bashing DropBox. I just voiced a wish for additional functionality. I already have DropBox-like functionality via file manager and browsing to either Samba-share or SFTP-share, with 2Tb storage, on my own server, but if I could just mount the thing on a directory it'd be a lot, LOT more useful.
gammaRascal said:
What.are.you.talking.about?
All that reads like over sensitive hyperbole and paranoia to me.
You're suggesting that just because you have files in your DropBox folder that it's unsecure?
Anything can fail without warning - that's hardly an ongoing and preventative concern of mine. I could turn on the light in my bathroom and *might* pop and yet, here we are. I'm not about to take a flashlight in with me every single time *just in case*.
Your HDD can fail. Your CPU can pop. Your MB can short... I mean, what are you expecting? Putting files on DropBox is no more unsecure than burning it to a DVD or copying it to a Flash drive or leaving it on your HDD.
There are *levels* of security and DropBox is far more secure than you give it credit. If security is a serious concern of yours, turn off the internet.
And regarding the cloud. See paragraph 2.
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Do a Google search using the terms Dropbox Security Breach and then read the article at CNET, a reliable IT information source. FloatingFatMan is right, at least about the security of Dropbox. I'm a bit leary of the Cloud for the same reasons. Do you know who is controlling your data or any of the folks who have access to it?
*yawn*
Yu huh...

My experience setting up Atrix file and folder security

I was considering storing financial and personal information on my phone in the form of files and realized that though the fingerprint scanner is ok to prevent the casual browser from logging into the phone when it is left unaccompanied, a real hacker could easily see whats on there with very little effort.
The Atrix on the face of it looks like a secure phone with the fingerprint reader; however XDA users would know that nothing prevents a thief from entering fastboot and mounting the files and folders to see whats on there. No security app can prevent that.
Using the android built-in option and encrypting the entire sdcard is NOT an option for me at this time. I think its going to slow down the phone operation if the OS files are encrypted and each time it needs to decrypt each and every file and folder. Also it may present issues when testing new ROMs. (And I am dual booting - so my extSD also has a ROM which I would not want to slow down anymore than it already is)
So I searched for methods and apps to encrypt individual files or folders on the Atrix. There are quiet a few in the market and a few are free as well with good reviews. However most -even the ones with the best reviews seem to be just changing the file name and location and not doing real encryption. Also most of these use proprietary algorithms or methods to hide information. A really good app would be one that uses an open source algorithm to encrypt the files and folders - so that the algorithm would be tested and verified as being strong by the world.
Also another requirement was for the ability to frequently sync and update the files on the phone with the PC. The app should have a PC equivalent - that is the file can change on my PC and then I should be able to sync the changed file with the phone in some automated way.
Yet another requirement would be the ability to quickly encrypt and decrypt huge audio or video files. A few good apps could encrypt small audio and video files but not files of size 1GB or more. The apps would either freeze after some time or not encrypt them at all.
Finally I was looking for an option by which the files if I unencrypt them to be available across all apps for the duration of that session - not just in the app that encrypts and decrypts them. So in other words, once I enter the password, the folder should be mounted and available in any app that can browse the phone - until I decide to end or unmount the encrypted store.
I found only Cryptonite doing all of this. Unfortunately Cryptonite does not support Truecrypt containers on Motorola phones. There is some info here on the truecrypt port to android here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=872297&page=7
However I could not get it working with the Atrix. Has anyone had success getting Kryptonite and Truecrypt to work on the Atrix?
Cryptonite also supports Dropbox, but I am not a big fan of storing sensitive info in the cloud - however well known the company is.
Cryptonite does support encFS and I was able to successfully create encFS encrypted folder on my Atrix. I would have liked to have TrueCrypt than encFS, just because I have been reading that Truecrypt has better overall support.
The method I use now for storing and synching encrypted information is:
for the first time only: create the encfs folder on the PC, then mount Atrix as a USB drive and copy the encrypted folder to Atrix.
To sync the encrypted files with the PC, I have to connect the Atrix as USB drive, open EncFS on the PC and select the folder on the Atrix to mount as a drive volume. Also mount the PC encFS folder as another drive. Now sync with the PC using any sync tool like MS SyncToy.
I went through a lot of searching and came to this which I think is good enough at the moment. I would like to hear if anyone else has a better app or method to secure and sync secured files on the Atrix - especially if you have got Truecrypt to somehow work on the Atrix. And I post this so that is anyone else needs this information, it is here.
shenoyh said:
Yet another requirement would be the ability to quickly encrypt and decrypt huge audio or video files. A few good apps could encrypt small audio and video files but not files of size 1GB or more. The apps would either freeze after some time or not encrypt them at all.
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I don't know about the rest of it, I never used any strong security on my phone nor do I intend to, but I think you shouldn't ever expect to be able to "quickly encrypt and decrypt huge files". You're pretty much asking for impossible here. It's like asking to build a full-featured house, furnished and all, in 30 minutes or less. A lot of data will always require a lot of time to process. Heck, even, say, straight plain copying such a file to a computer would take quite a while.
No.
Your not going to get business class security on your atrix, or any current phone most likely.
LUKS manager is the closest thing to legitimate encryption (not gimicky BS) i have seen, but it has some fatal flaws.
Passwords and such are safe and easy to store with KeePass, which is also on windows/linux for syncing and has years of reputation (also free/open source). It isnt for files though.
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Atrix 4G
Rom: Cyanogenmod 7.2 [20120805]
Recov: Romracer 5.0.2.7-atrix5
Radio: N_01.97.00R
Kernel: Faux 1.00ghz-026b1
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Trying to understand file system

I use Solid Explorer and am not rooted. When I look at ways to get to a "file" at root, I see:
Root/sdcard/file
Root/storage/sdcard0/file
Root/storage/emulated/legacy/file
Root/storage/emulated/internal memory/file
Root/mnt/sdcard/file
Why so many and what does it all mean? Can I delete any of the folders? Any of them open in my browser if the file is an html file with file:///
understand filefystem
tcat007 said:
I use Solid Explorer and am not rooted. When I look at ways to get to a "file" at root, I see:
Root/sdcard/file
Root/storage/sdcard0/file
Root/storage/emulated/legacy/file
Root/storage/emulated/internal memory/file
Root/mnt/sdcard/file
Why so many and what does it all mean? Can I delete any of the folders? Any of them open in my browser if the file is an html file with file:///
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I would not recommend trying to delete any of the folders; most of them are basically symlinks, and deleting them will NOT reclaim storage. As to understanding the filesystem after the move to 'multi-user android 4.2', I have problems in that aspect myself. Indeed, on my (rooted) nexus, I have difficulties in getting my folders visible for other applications (where on 4.1 they were very visible indeed).
As one of the cracks on this forum, Chainfire, who releases the StickMount app, has similar problems (he has not been able to make StickMount work yet on Android 4.2), I guess there are some real questions out there.
Chances are, within the next few days or weeks, more is known about the way the filesystem is working, and perhaps tips as how to make it better will come floating about.
For now though, I would just "sit still" if I were you, and just ignore all the other ways, and just use one of them.
(And which one? I guess I would go for /sdcard/file myself...
Kind regards,
Roel
Happy I'm not the only one. Before the update "Root/storage/sdcard0/file" seemed to be the path. Now it looks like each app chooses it's path randomly. I would guess many developers are pulling their hair out (or cursing Google)
I think I've got my head round the symbolic links but can't, along with tcat007, understand the reasoning. Another question that I hope is proper here is "How does Windows 8 (and earlier) decide what is "Internal Storage" - I've got a subdirectory that can be seen through either the sdcard or storage paths but will not display in W8.

Previous Versions/Shadow Copies

I searched and checked the FAQs, nothing appeared on this.
Micro. said some blabber about no one used this in Win 7 and that it slowed down the system. I used it, and loved it, along with a lot of other power users if you Google it.
Apparently, there are still shadow copies in Win 8, so I copied the folder to the window pane on the left in explorer. In the address bar, type:
\\computername\c$\Users\computerusername
e.g. \\mylaptop\c$\Spongebobsquarepants
Has anyone else been using this? Apparently on the network, previous versions, including the tab is still there. Anyone have any tips on this? If I could get the previous version tab in the properties section I would run around naked singing.
Shadow Copies are still present, but they're (in theory) used only for the "System Restore" feature that's been around in one form or another since Windows ME. You may recall that on Vista and Win7 you had to manually enable Previous Versions for any drive but the system one, and stuff like that? My guess is that that's why the feature didn't get enough usage; people didn't have it turned on to use it much.
Anyhow, like you, I made very heavy use of Previous Versions and was pissed to see it get cut (the new Windows Backup is almost good enough to be a substitute, but they serve different purposes, dammit!). I'd love to see a way to get it brought back for data files (as opposed to system files and programs only).
There is also "File History" which works much the same way but from a seperate GUI.
The backup files have to be stored on an external drive, but you can get around this by creating a network share that points at one of your local drives.
And it only does Libraries, but since you can create libraries, and put any folders you like in them, it means you can back up pretty much anything.
marcd2k12 said:
There is also "File History" which works much the same way but from a seperate GUI.
The backup files have to be stored on an external drive, but you can get around this by creating a network share that points at one of your local drives.
And it only does Libraries, but since you can create libraries, and put any folders you like in them, it means you can back up pretty much anything.
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Ah, I never knew this. I tried selecting the same drive as Windows 8 but it refuses, I selected my other partition with Windows 7 and it accepted that location. I'll see how that goes. Thanks a lot.

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