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"3 reasons why Google Android will fail" -- Article from Nov of 2007

http://www.thoughtgadgets.com/2007/11/game-over-3-reasons-why-google-android.html
Ok, so this is of course old news, I just stumbled over the article by accident a few minutes ago and thought I'd share because of the hilarity of it all. It was a pretty laughable article in 2007, but even more so now when Android is in full swing and is getting better by the month and more and more manufacturers joins the OHA.
Hindsight 20/20 and all that, but most of us hardcore Androiders knew Android would not fail, despite what a few self-proclaimed experts said on their blogs. We knew it even as far back as 2007/2008. Ben Kunz obviously didn't, though.

Lol just read this Ben Kunz what a MOD EDIT
think of your choice of wording when you post.
thank you

I remember reading this a long time ago. I laughed then, but it is even funnier now. The comments are almost equally funny.

To answer Ben Kunz article
Android to grow faster than iPhone in 2009?
http://www.electronista.com/articles/09/05/11/android.to.grow.900pc/

xxvtcxx said:
Android to grow faster than iPhone in 2009?
http://www.electronista.com/articles/09/05/11/android.to.grow.900pc/
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It's heartening news, but you gotta consider that percentage growth is one of those marketing spin numbers. A platform that is selling 1M units in 2008 experiencing a 900% growth sells an additional 9M. A platform selling 10M units in 2008 only has to grow 90% to experience the same increase in sales growth.

Well, to be honest, if the G1 looked like that prototype picture...I wouldn't have bought it. That is one seriously ugly looking phone with a tiny ass screen.

ExploreMN said:
Well, to be honest, if the G1 looked like that prototype picture...I wouldn't have bought it. That is one seriously ugly looking phone with a tiny ass screen.
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True, but as a self-proclaimed expert on all things tech he should of course have known Android is not about hardware (let alone about prototype hardware). Android is about software.
I knew that as soon as I first heard and read about Android back in 2007, I bet you knew that, and I also bet most people on this forum knew that -- we knew the possibilities was and is almost endless. Ben Kunz, however, did not. And he wrote a downright stupid article about it, showing off his ignorance.
It did bring us lots of amusement though, so kudos to Ben for making a fool out of himself

Think about google as a company. Starting with a school project and growing to what is now. Everything google owns is destined to succeed. They have a huge master plan and everything they do/own is tied into each other in one way or another.

CBowley said:
Think about google as a company. Starting with a school project and growing to what is now. Everything google owns is destined to succeed. They have a huge master plan and everything they do/own is tied into each other in one way or another.
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You mean they have synergy? LOL

ExploreMN said:
Well, to be honest, if the G1 looked like that prototype picture...I wouldn't have bought it. That is one seriously ugly looking phone with a tiny ass screen.
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I've got one of the prototype phones for testing... while its no G1, the keyboard is a lot nicer to use. For folks who just want a simple lightweight texting phone, I can see it being pretty attractive.
Some pix:
http://picasaweb.google.com/jashsu/EXCA300?authkey=Gv1sRgCMjAkfWGiaD0Tw#

jashsu said:
I've got one of the prototype phones for testing... while its no G1, the keyboard is a lot nicer to use. For folks who just want a simple lightweight texting phone, I can see it being pretty attractive.
Some pix:
http://picasaweb.google.com/jashsu/EXCA300?authkey=Gv1sRgCMjAkfWGiaD0Tw#
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"Main screen turn on" -- That's absolutely brilliant!

1 reason why that article fails.
Android is awsome.
Nuff' said.

Sure won't turn to them for marketing advice lol.

Ryanmo5 said:
Sure won't turn to them for marketing advice lol.
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Well, maybe you could ask him for advice and then always do the exact opposite. I bet that would be a pretty effective strategy.

Sounds like he was one of the kids that mommy wouldn't buy him a RAZR so now he is having a temper tantrum. lol

jashsu said:
I've got one of the prototype phones for testing... while its no G1, the keyboard is a lot nicer to use. For folks who just want a simple lightweight texting phone, I can see it being pretty attractive.
Some pix:
http://picasaweb.google.com/jashsu/EXCA300?authkey=Gv1sRgCMjAkfWGiaD0Tw#
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I hear what you are saying, but lets...for arguments sake...equate a cell phone to a woman (no offense to women...but its the best modern day analogy I can make at the moment).
Okay, men (in this case the generic term "men" means "customers") look for a woman, they want it all...sexy, intelligent, and able to do a lot of things (interpret that as you see fit).
A G1 fits most of that. A G1, while not the sexiest in the world, is decent enough looking...but what she lacks in looks she makes up for by being highly intelligent and capable of performing a variety of tasks you may hope she can do...as a woman.
The Android prototype in the picture may be able to do a lot of tasks, but she can't do everything...and, while intelligent, she is seriously to fat (wide), to short (squat and square) and way too fricken ugly to really be considered anything more than a friend (like when you look at your buddies cell phone that was a free give-away for signing a contract).
Now, to really get the whole package, Android phones need to take a page from Apple's book and make something super sexy like an iPhone with all the other Android and tech components in the G1...only with longer battery life.

mannyb said:
Well, maybe you could ask him for advice and then always do the exact opposite. I bet that would be a pretty effective strategy.
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Haha yeah that might work huh?

Honestly, I'm not too attracted to the iphone. It's plane, too skinny to be comfy, has one button, not my type. Maybe if she was the last girl in the bar at the end of the night i'd take her home, but i'd leave before she woke up and deny it to my friends..

The exact reason why Android based phones are going to blow away Apple and Blackberry.
http://www.googleandblog.com/adobe-...d-at-mobile-world-congress-in-barcelona/3785/

HAHA at "not even close".... suckers.

[QUESTION] HD2, Andriod and Desire

Hey...
It might be a noobish question but I just couldn't find a decent answer:
With the release of the HTC Desire, since its very alike the HD2 hardware-wise, is there any chance of it helping with the release of a working Android ROM for the HD2?
I really want to get rid of WinMo 6.5... I hate it...
Thanks

Has been answered many times before, you should have searched.
Anyway, the answer is no, its not easier. And its not magically going to happen overnight either.
Mods will close this.

Tsury said:
Hey...
It might be a noobish question but I just couldn't find a decent answer:
With the release of the HTC Desire, since its very alike the HD2 hardware-wise, is there any chance of it helping with the release of a working Android ROM for the HD2?
I really want to get rid of WinMo 6.5... I hate it...
Thanks
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Why did you get a HD2 if you hate WinMo? Return it and get an android phone.

zarathustrax said:
Why did you get a HD2 if you hate WinMo? Return it and get an android phone.
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i dont understand people...
i hate wm, i hate wm,
but yet wm has the coolest hardware available in the states..
"CLEARLY" you didnt understand what i was trying to say...
its like going to buy that new FORD mustang and you realize you HATE FORD but yet your complaining..
so why not just go buy the CHEVY camaro, sense cleary thats more of your liking...
but to my avail its clearly stupid to buy a phone with a OS that you dont like..thats a wast of money

msmith1991 said:
i dont understand people...
i hate wm, i hate wm,
but yet wm has the coolest hardware available in the states..
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What does having the coolest HW have to do w/the O/S? You might not understand people, but people don't understand you

zarathustrax said:
Why did you get a HD2 if you hate WinMo? Return it and get an android phone.
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The HD2 is my first smartphone, I bought it because the superb hardware... I didn't know Windows Mobile suck that bad and I also suffered from lack of experience...
Apparently hardware is not nearly enough...
Now that there will be no WinMo 7 no one wants to buy it, at least not in a price I think is worthy...
I thought, hey, if there's a chance I can get Android on this device why not look into it...
I truly hope this day will come; for now I am managing with WinMo...

Tsury said:
The HD2 is my first smartphone, I bought it because the superb hardware... I didn't know Windows Mobile suck that bad and I also suffered from lack of experience...
Apparently hardware is not nearly enough...
Now that there will be no WinMo 7 no one wants to buy it, at least not in a price I think is worthy...
I thought, hey, if there's a chance I can get Android on this device why not look into it...
I truly hope this day will come; for now I am managing with WinMo...
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Flash Custom ROM! of course it will suck on stock ROM

Sultan1993 said:
Flash Custom ROM! of course it will suck on stock ROM
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Well :]
I have a bad case of Obsessive-Rom Updating Disorder....
Flashing every little bit NRGZ28 uploads
Currently downloading his Titanium ROM with SPB... Maybe its Sense that I hate so much
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Still... You can just feel how old WinMo is... Everything is so stitched up....

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Well :]
I have a bad case of Obsessive-Rom Updating Disorder....
Flashing every little bit NRGZ28 uploads
Currently downloading his Titanium ROM with SPB... Maybe its Sense that I hate so much
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Still... You can just feel how old WinMo is... Everything is so stitched up....
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Flash CleanEX and you will see that WM can be fast!

It would have taken a short amount of time (30 mins) to go to a store and demo the phone, or research on the internet, read reviews, watch videos, post your questions BEFORE going out and buying the phone and then moaning how much you hate it.
Society now apparently is made up of people who are unable to make decisions for themselves even when the pertinent facts are readily available.

Sultan1993 said:
Flash CleanEX and you will see that WM can be fast!
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Isn't it a little TOO clean?

efjay said:
It would have taken a short amount of time (30 mins) to go to a store and demo the phone, or research on the internet, read reviews, watch videos, post your questions BEFORE going out and buying the phone and then moaning how much you hate it.
Society now apparently is made up of people who are unable to make decisions for themselves even when the pertinent facts are readily available.
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Meh, you think everyone got 'em fancy stores?
I pre-ordered it... Yes, sometimes there's a hype and people get excited and make emotional decisions... I bet you don't go to the store and research everything you buy...
And there's a long way from moaning about stuff to simply asking one question politely..

Tsury said:
Meh, you think everyone got 'em fancy stores?
I pre-ordered it... Yes, sometimes there's a hype and people get excited and make emotional decisions... I bet you don't go to the store and research everything you buy...
And there's a long way from moaning about stuff to simply asking one question politely..
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I actually research most everything I buy... especially expensive things. It pisses my girlfriend off to no end when I sit and compare different brands or features on things and not just make a quick decision.
I was watching and reading about the HD2 for almost 6 months before I finally got it (as it wasn't released in the US until recently). I love Windows Mobile. I find it to be the most versatile, customizable mobile OS and I'm very upset that MS is changing all that when Windows Phone 7 comes.

zarathustrax said:
I actually research most everything I buy... especially expensive things. It pisses my girlfriend off to no end when I sit and compare different brands or features on things and not just make a quick decision.
I was watching and reading about the HD2 for almost 6 months before I finally got it (as it wasn't released in the US until recently). I love Windows Mobile. I find it to be the most versatile, customizable mobile OS and I'm very upset that MS is changing all that when Windows Phone 7 comes.
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Well, cheers.
I think sometimes too much freedom isn't necessarily a good thing... One can find himself fiddling too much with his phone to an overkill...

efjay said:
It would have taken a short amount of time (30 mins) to go to a store and demo the phone, or research on the internet, read reviews, watch videos, post your questions BEFORE going out and buying the phone and then moaning how much you hate it.
Society now apparently is made up of people who are unable to make decisions for themselves even when the pertinent facts are readily available.
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I wish I could rate you up like the comments on DailyTech!
Anyway, I'm not sure I understand all the WinMo haters. I read these reviews of the HD2 saying how amazing the hardware is, but the OS sucks... Yet they don't give any reasons the OS sucks.
Sure, I can see a year or two ago, back in the 6.0/6.1 days saying it is ugly... Still, what does ugly keep you from doing? Showing your phone off to the other shallow people around you?
Then I hear "OOOoo, the Marketplace sux0rs!" and I wonder to myself, how did ANYONE survive before a "marketplace." Oh yeah, search online and find what you want, I remember now. Do that, and you'll find that WinMo has a HUGE application pool to draw from.
Now it is "Oh it sux cause it is dead thanks to WP7." Sorry, another lame excuse. Why? Because all WP7 does for anyone, is give it a fancy interface, that if you don't like it... Well, MS says screw you!
So to the OP looking for Android on your HD2, give your HD2 away and buy an Android phone, or help port Android over to the HD2. Just don't come bawling your eyes out to a group who has lived and breathed WinMo for years and say you hate it because it sucks. Maybe it sucks because YOU aren't smart enough to figure it out.
This says it best:
"I can't tell you how frustrated I used to get at supposedly smart people who couldn't care less about power features but instead chose the "smartphone for dummies" (iphone). In time I realized it was their choice and that people for the most part don't want to think in fact most people spend their day trying to find ways not to think."

efjay said:
Society now apparently is made up of people who are unable to make decisions for themselves even when the pertinent facts are readily available.
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"hello, welcome to apple! oh, so your after a phone? come this way..."

arthurbrownleeiv said:
I wish I could rate you up like the comments on DailyTech!
Anyway, I'm not sure I understand all the WinMo haters. I read these reviews of the HD2 saying how amazing the hardware is, but the OS sucks... Yet they don't give any reasons the OS sucks.
Sure, I can see a year or two ago, back in the 6.0/6.1 days saying it is ugly... Still, what does ugly keep you from doing? Showing your phone off to the other shallow people around you?
Then I hear "OOOoo, the Marketplace sux0rs!" and I wonder to myself, how did ANYONE survive before a "marketplace." Oh yeah, search online and find what you want, I remember now. Do that, and you'll find that WinMo has a HUGE application pool to draw from.
Now it is "Oh it sux cause it is dead thanks to WP7." Sorry, another lame excuse. Why? Because all WP7 does for anyone, is give it a fancy interface, that if you don't like it... Well, MS says screw you!
So to the OP looking for Android on your HD2, give your HD2 away and buy an Android phone, or help port Android over to the HD2. Just don't come bawling your eyes out to a group who has lived and breathed WinMo for years and say you hate it because it sucks. Maybe it sucks because YOU aren't smart enough to figure it out.
This says it best:
"I can't tell you how frustrated I used to get at supposedly smart people who couldn't care less about power features but instead chose the "smartphone for dummies" (iphone). In time I realized it was their choice and that people for the most part don't want to think in fact most people spend their day trying to find ways not to think."
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i completely agree..no one can never give a decent recent as to why windows phone sucks..i been using wm for over a year now and i must i enjoy tweaking it..i can make my phone look completely diff in a matter of mins..i got bored of the adroid os and def got bored of the iphone os..wm is awsome

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i completely agree..no one can never give a decent recent as to why windows phone sucks..i been using wm for over a year now and i must i enjoy tweaking it..i can make my phone look completely diff in a matter of mins..i got bored of the adroid os and def got bored of the iphone os..wm is awsome
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Agreed. I've been using WinMo since 2003... before they were all phones and were call pocket pcs. And that's what they are... basicly a pc that fits in your pocket. Now they are even more... they're phones now, too. But people need to remember that they are still pocket pcs and have the same type of learning curve a full pc does. They operate just like windows pcs do.
WinMo was designed as a pocket pc originally, not a phone. Android and iphones, etc were designed to be phones from the beginning. They don't have the same pc functionality like WinMo does. It's a shame that WinMo is nearing the end of it's development life by ms. WP7 is going to be a dumbed down phone now just like the rest.

Iphone 4 HD , hd2 killer?

So Iphone 4 has just been announced , it looks pretty neat.
Do you think it's a HD2 Killer?
Will you be getting it?

1. No
2. No

Maybe and no but then again a glass of water can kill any HD2 lol.
If anything I wasn't that impressed with the information released for the iPhone 4, I'm not saying it doesn't look like a good improvement on previous iPhones but I'm not going to quickly ditch my HD2 for it. I'd still prefer to have an EVO but I know that will never happen .
Saying that though, my HD2 is awesome it continually manages to amaze me everyday and thanks to crazy developers here on XDA there's always something new just round the corner for me to try.
In fact my HD2 is the best HD2, everyone elses is just a imitation of my brilliant one, you poor people lol .

I wasn't really impressed with the specs on the iphone 4... Apple really didn't do anything ground breaking with it. Screen size is still the same... But honestly I guess that's why I love my HD2... The screen and the camera... In all fairness thought the OG iphone set the precedent a while ago and other phone manufacturers use that as their benchmark.

Why in the world would I want a phone with a tiny 3.5" screen?

i wonder how much RAM are there in the iPhone 4. the design looks weird for an apple product and i don't like the name at all! the screen resolution is crazy for a 3.5" phone. have they made it at least 3.8 " then it would be great. just cannot go back to a 3.5" screen anymore. and I wonder how does the multitasking work.

Screen too small indeed. Stupid, such a resolution is too fine be put to use on 3.5".
Same but designed as the HD2, same screen size and thin border, yes. They still haven't understood...

One word: NO!

It depends on the user, if you like doing more tweaks and learning more fun on your phone then hd2 is your phone. You cannot do on iphone what you can do on hd2.

I wasnt overly impressed by anything but the fact that you could edit your vidoes via the phone. I suppose any phone could do that but apple always does such a great job of software intergration that its hard to over look.
The book reader app I thought was alittle silly. Specially when thats one of the main points of getting An Ipad. But i guess thats built into the os so not much we can do about that.
lastly I thought that having video chat was cool(even tho evo did it first in the us)but I couldnt get over the fact that it was just via wifi. I would have rather had the option to use it via 3g . Im sure that people will jailbreak it but with the new pricing plans for data who will want to .
Personally I think the data plan change over shadows this release. In places where wifi is readily accessible It guess it wont matter much.

you are talking about that toyphone thing I see people playing with. I guess I might buy it for my kids if I ever have any. For now there isn't anything better can the hd2 with an awesome winmo custom ROM.

Xp3RiM3nT said:
you are talking about that toyphone thing I see people playing with. I guess I might buy it for my kids if I ever have any. For now there isn't anything better can the hd2 with an awesome winmo custom ROM.
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you forgot to mention the latest release of CHT! cookie hometab 1.8 is just awesome!

what a jerk phone hd2 rules ,even better than evo fake 4g

same crap different case

Check out the video here:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/10259552.stm
It should make your mind up.

Demon_man said:
same crap different case
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looooooooooooool

Meiyo said:
So Iphone 4 has just been announced , it looks pretty neat.
Do you think it's a HD2 Killer?
Will you be getting it?
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1Ghz A4 CPU and 512Mbs RAM? I think not.
In the grand scheme of things HTC are looking at stuffing a 1.5Ghz dual core into some of it's up and coming phones, so I can't see the iPhone 4 competing with that.
And I've never seen anyone bang on about video calls so much in my life, it's a five year old technology!
Oh and the 'redesigned iPhone' heading from that BBC link says it all, same ****, different case.

Dont mean to sound rude but
You asking us if a brand new phone (doesnt matter who its made by) is going to kill of a phone thats half a year old?
Are you joking?

Apple fans will love it.... People who believe all the hype will think that it's the first phone with video conferencing... The rest of us will love to hate it...
More people will end up with an iPhone 4 than an HTC device but I like it that way personally.

NeoGreendawg said:
Apple fans will love it.... People who believe all the hype will think that it's the first phone with video conferencing... The rest of us will love to hate it...
More people will end up with an iPhone 4 than an HTC device but I like it that way personally.
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Well said.

Is anyone considering trading their X10 for the new Iphone?

What do you dislike about X10, SE, and/or the 1.6. And, what advantages if any do you believe the new Iphone 4G have over the X10?

fm1776 said:
What do you dislike about X10, SE, and/or the 1.6. And, what advantages if any do you believe the new Iphone 4G have over the X10?
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No i wont trade my XPERIA X10 into a product that costs about 80% more than my XPERIA X10 while having half of the features the XPERIA X10 have. And when you look here, you also know why i wont buy that phone ever.
Everything in that list is something my XPERIA X10 can do out of the box.

Hell no... Never.. and certainly not when I'd have to pay £60 a month for a 2 year contract to get the handset for free...
Even if it wasn't so ridiculously expensive.. I'd still rather have my X10 (and no.. I'm neither an Apple hate or an SE fanboy! - I have an Ipod, and have never owned an x10 before)..

Sure... if I was an idiot with more money than brains, who is willing to support a company with no morals that has one hell of a marketing department which has been able to fool the masses into believing that the iPhone is something better and something they need to be "cool".
F%& Apple and all the hipsters!
If you haven't figured that out, my answer is HECK NO!

No, I don't want an iPhone.
fm1776 is probably wondering why nobody has posted in this thread yet.

rynoon said:
No, I don't want an iPhone.
fm1776 is probably wondering why nobody has posted in this thread yet.
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LOL, yeah maybe he should take us of his block list .

mtechfan said:
Sure... if I was an idiot with more money than brains, who is willing to support a company with no morals that has one hell of a marketing department which has been able to fool the masses into believing that the iPhone is something better and something they needto be "cool".
F%& Apple and all the hipsters!
If you haven't figured that out, my answer is HECK NO!
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LOL!!! ok that is two no's!

I'm very satisfied with the X10.
No Iphone for me.

@Rynoon - Leave it alone - We're meant to be having a discussion not bickering like children.

fm1776 said:
LOL!!! ok that is two no's!
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ROFL, someone that is not on his block list, tell him that he have way more than just 2 no's in this topic lol.
And tell him to take us from his block list to see how many no's he really have.

Tom-Helge said:
No i wont trade my XPERIA X10 into a product that costs about 80% more than my XPERIA X10 while having half of the features the XPERIA X10 have. And when you look here, you also know why i wont buy that phone ever.
Everything in that list is something my XPERIA X10 can do out of the box.
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Wow - I didn't realise there was so much lacking in the iPhone... mind you there's some things there that also apply to the x10 (especially with its current 1.6 OS)
There are some great specs on the iPhone4, well, mainly just the pixel depth of that screen, but apart from that, not much...
Also, I'd much rather have the flexibility of the Android OS over the highly locked down iPhone OS
Sometimes it's more important that a few 'specs'

k1sr said:
Wow - I didn't realise there was so much lacking in the iPhone... mind you there's some things there that also apply to the x10 (especially with its current 1.6 OS)
There are some great specs on the iPhone4, well, mainly just the pixel depth of that screen, but apart from that, not much...
Also, I'd much rather have the flexibility of the Android OS over the highly locked down iPhone OS
Sometimes it's more important that a few 'specs'
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Yup, i totally agree with you.

I got an iPod touch, so I know what iOS mean.
And iOS 4 on iPhone 4 as just "multitask" (I get real multitask on my ipt2G with jailbreak)
iPod touch = nice mp4 with some cool feature
iPhone (3GS/4) = bad phone who want to look nice
Now that I discovered android, no way to jail me into iOS again !
iOS is not fully useless, I give my ipod touch to my girlfriend because of her "computer accident" =) Yes it's more easy to use thant android, but for people who don't come on xda forum^^

thanks for the warning about apple products. I have never owned an apple anything. But my mate stopped by with his new iphone 4g and it looked like a nice kit.
I wish the X10 would be getting the 2.2 instead of the 2.1. I really want the adobe 10.1.
I gave the HTML5 a go and the video's worked just fine on iphone.

I actually came from an iphone iOS4 (i've owned orginal, 3gs, and 4) and am loving my x10, but the main reason for my switch is flash which we may or may not get from SE... keep fingers for custom roms
Also I'm left handed and Apple hates my kind

majik8ball said:
I actually came from an iphone iOS4 (i've owned orginal, 3gs, and 4) and am loving my x10, but the main reason for my switch is flash which we may or may not get from SE... keep fingers for custom roms
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You came from the 4G? What site do you normally stream video's from the doesn't work with HTML5?
As for the 10.1 some one will need to cook 2.2 or it won't work. It will probably happen sooner or later. But if that is the main reason you switched why not go with the EVO? 10.1 should work out of the box.

Seriously, guys...
This kid has been slapping Rachael left, right and center for days. Now he's setting up a separate topic to further evangelize IamalamePHONE, and nobody actually cares to 'advise' him to leave the X10 section?
I would, if not because the coward can't read my comments.

fm1776 said:
thanks for the warning about apple products. I have never owned an apple anything. But my mate stopped by with his new iphone 4g and it looked like a nice kit.
I wish the X10 would be getting the 2.2 instead of the 2.1. I really want the adobe 10.1.
I gave the HTML5 a go and the video's worked just fine on iphone.
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He claims he never owned an iPhone. Riiiight....

loneLEE said:
Seriously, guys...
This kid has been slapping Rachael left, right and center for days. Now he's setting up a separate topic to further evangelize IamalamePHONE, and nobody actually cares to 'advise' him to leave the X10 section?
I would, if not because the coward can't read my comments.
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Well, the difficulty is that he has also ignored more than half of the people in this thread as well. I looked back through his posts and it's nothing but slagging off the X10. Trollish for sure.

I like to watch tv from justin.tv and html5 does not support... plus at least for me on my iphone4 the ones that do work were not that great interms of framerate, but i'm sure with time it'll be ironed out.
Trust me i wish i could have switched to EVO, but I'm stuck on AT&T and if you know anything about them it is the MAIN REASON NOT TO GET AN IPHONE... AT&T lol

Having Second thoughts.

So when I first got the GSII I thought it was awesome! But 2 things quickly came to fruition.
1.The lightness was great at first but now its almost as a hassle for me, its TOO light, its like I cant even grab it properly like I did with my IP4, im constantly having trouble handling it and it just feels SO delicate! As if its gonna break if I do something wrong or drop it, its too thin for me, that's why Im having trouble holding it at times.
2.Android I have used before and very much enjoyed it but I dunno what happened to me that now its just too much stuff going on for me, with the IP4, it was simple and right to the point, in a way I appreciate all the extra little things that Android bring but I just dont care too much either, surprising cause im a techie. I dunno if its cause I am used to the IP for so long but it just seems like I have to go through more steps to do things that I would only have to do 1 or 2 on IOS. I always get this feeling of cluttered and an unorganized feel on Android while on IOS it just feels simple and straight to the point and organised. I tried WP7 at launch as well and I was super impressed by its UI, smoothness, how everything was so simple and easy to get to/use, frankly I just dont care about customizing and all that, I just want a quick fast and easy experience.
Now dont get me wrong a big problem I had with Android was how it would lag, freeze and sometimes feel like its in a beta stage, I was curious how the DualCore and 1gb ram would make a difference and wow! Im very impressed here! I havent had a single lag, its so smooth and just runs any and everything with absolute ease! This is how I wanted android to be!!
Another thing is the screen, I had 480x800 phones before as well as SuperAmoled and very much enjoyed them, so I was very excited to see the SuperAmoledPlus Display, too my surprise I wasn't that impressed tbh, the blacks are incredible, the contrast honestly seems good but not what I expected, the IP4 seems on par even brighter in some places, but the biggest thing for me is the pixels, since I had 480x800 before and thought it was great, I didn't think it was gonna be a huge difference but wow it is, the retnia display is MUCH better with text. Theres definitely a difference.
All in all Im not sure what to do now, I think I have a beast of a phone in my hands and it IS good but im not satisfied in certain aspects and it seems the months I spent with IOS really took a hold of me, I find myself trying to do little gestures I did in IOS. Theres the IP5 coming but who knows how much that will be and my contract is not up till next year. I cant find a good case for my life on the GS2 while IP4 has several.
Personally I think WP7 is awesome! But the lack of apps and certain things I need is really pushing me away from it. Im not gonna lie sometimes I get annoyed with Apples restrictions and hate itunes but beyond that I very much enjoy it.

Seriously, trade it in and get an iPhone 4. And if that sounds like I'm being trolly and trying to be funny then don't take it that way. I honestly believe that you've picked the wrong phone.
As popular as this phone is, it's obviously not for everyone.

johncmolyneux said:
Seriously, trade it in and get an iPhone 4.
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btw sorry if this came off as a bashing thread or something, just giving my honest thoughts.

solidkevin said:
btw sorry if this came off as a bashing thread or something, just giving my honest thoughts.
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I didn't think it was mate - I just reworded my response in case I came across as bashing!

johncmolyneux said:
I didn't think it was mate - I just reworded my response in case I came across as bashing!
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No problem! I read your response and I think I may just wait for IP5, try to get a good sell on this one. I feel dumb, I really thought I was gonna like this one...
What do you think of WP7?

I agree with the post above. The SGS2 isn't the right device for everyone. IMO it's the best device on the market currently. That being said who cares what I think, it's what you think. If you want to get an iPhone I would hold off until Sept when the iPhone 5 is released.

I only skim read the first post but from the number of times I saw "IP4" I think you definately need to jump off the Android bandwagon.
I got this phone two days ago and it's one in a long line of Android phones, if I were to switch to an iphone and do the opposite to you, i'd find myself on modmyi.com moaning about how sucky and locked down apple phones are.
Point is, if you really don't like it, take it back if/while you still can.

solidkevin said:
No problem! I read your response and I think I may just wait for IP5, try to get a good sell on this one. I feel dumb, I really thought I was gonna like this one...
What do you think of WP7?
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I only had WP7 very briefly - on a HD2 that usually ran Android. I liked it, but was put off by how little I could do with it. It felt like going back 10 years to when you were pleased if you could even use your own .mid files as ringtones!

The first point about lightness / thinness can be solved with a £2 case from ebay. Job done.
Android phones can be pretty much set up to be very similar to iOS (only better) with a little patience. In fact android can mimick any other phone, or even be completely unique... can you do that with an iphone? No.
Yes the retina display is sharper for text, and when it boils down to it, the retina is probably the only rival display that can compete with the SAMOLED+ but I personally prefer the latter for its comparatively massive size, brilliant blacks and vibrancy. Horses for courses.
Ultimately I'd agree with the others though. Sounds like you bought the wrong phone. I felt the same way with the iphone 4 to be honest, and it was only when the SGS2 appeared that I knew I had a worthy replacement on my hands.

I want the Nokia WP7!

666fff said:
I want the Nokia WP7!
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Definitely in the back of my mind...

Well if you like the ease of use of the iPhone, you should check out MIUI: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1130951
There's even an iPhone theme which makes it near identical in look and feel.
MIUI is really easy to use and simple to install. Just an idea.
Otherwise just get an iPhone 4 or 5.

Buying a case would definitely solve issue 1.
Like others have said, with some time and effort you could emulate the iphone look and usability.
Go with what's comfortable for you. Doesn't matter what anyone says.
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I am actually torn between WP7 and Android
But I feel Icecream will be the deal breaker for android
currently am happy with my SGS2 having come from htc hero, but I also have an HTC HD7 wP7 and I love what Micorosoft has done with MANGO.
and Being a Nokia Fan I am definitely gonna for a Nokia WP7 next year
as I specifically took a 12 month contract on my SGS 2 and the SGS2 specs are good enough to last me atleast a couple of years If I do get itchy about android

Too light? WTF?
Don't like Android? Don't buy an Android phone!
Go back to iPhone, we don't need you here whining.

gaui said:
Too light? WTF?
Don't like Android? Don't buy an Android phone!
Go back to iPhone, we don't need you here whining.
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Its funny how theres always one asshole in these threads...

solidkevin said:
Its funny how theres always one asshole in these threads...
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Well he's got to do something to take our attention away from his tiny manhood. Shame he did something that actually drew our attention to it instead!

Boltie said:
Buying a case would definitely solve issue 1.
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I second this statement.
I've had the phone for less than a week now and had the same impression, compared to my previous N1.
I just bought a plastic case, it's still light, but it definitely feels better now.

I agree 100% with the OP this is my first android and I was learning on the go. Its very cool device but for some people who just want simple interface they should go for IOS. I do electronics for living and have done a lot of programing in past years. I spent yesterday all day flashing this thing because all the sudden it stopped Sync and Social Hub wont work. It seriously stopped by it self very strange.
I asked all the experts on this website about how to fix it, so far my thread name "social hub Issues" has 100 views and 0 answers. What does that mean? either no one has answer or they think im retard.

babamike said:
I asked all the experts on this website about how to fix it, so far my thread name "social hub Issues" has 100 views and 0 answers. What does that mean? either no one has answer or they think im retard.
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lol - I doubt it's because people think you're a retard
It's more than likely just a rare issue, so not many people that visit this forum will be able to advise you. I'm sure you'll get some advice eventually.