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i am sooooooooo stoked.
Sweet i cant wait to play FF:VII!!
holy crap, awesome
and apparently hes not even on froyo
I hope this will work with a PS3 SIX-AXIS blue-tooth controller.
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I hope this will work with a PS3 SIX-AXIS blue-tooth controller.
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It would be nice but it's doubtful. The amount of work required to get it working on the PC via bluetooth is pretty crazy but we can always hope
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http://digitaldisbeliever.net/2010/06/zodttd-is-showing-some-love-to-android/
i am sooooooooo stoked.
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BWAHAHAH
Before even clicking the link, I thought "MAN wouldn't it be awesome to play FFVII" and BAM, he has pics of those.
I love that game haha
I hope this will work with a PS3 SIX-AXIS blue-tooth controller.
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If someone would make an app for ps3 controllers, it'd be great. For now it should work perfectly with a Wii Classic Controller using pikipirs' app.
Can't wait for this...
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FFVII... hands down my all time favorite game... its in a league of its own and now it will soon be in my pocket!
Now that we have Playstation 1 emulation, maybe we can have N64 emulation as well. I want to play Donkey Kong 64, Super Mario 64, and The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time sooo bad too. Oh and Pokemon Stadium/Snap as well. Those were classic games.
call me a skeptic, but i dont see how this can work out so well for the n1. Yes it had plenty of processing power, but with our touch screen I think the controls will be an issue.
mariolopezjr said:
Now that we have Playstation 1 emulation, maybe we can have N64 emulation as well. I want to play Donkey Kong 64, Super Mario 64, and The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time sooo bad too. Oh and Pokemon Stadium/Snap as well. Those were classic games.
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He says in the comments that he will be working on an N64 emulator and VLC after the PSX is done.
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call me a skeptic, but i dont see how this can work out so well for the n1. Yes it had plenty of processing power, but with our touch screen I think the controls will be an issue.
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indeed, i feel he just use the trackball as controller
i was never a fan on PS1 but if the get they n64 emulator working, I would be so happy!
Well I have the game on disc, and I never really delved into PSX/PSOne emulation, so I'll have to find out how to get the game in a format the program will read.
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call me a skeptic, but i dont see how this can work out so well for the n1. Yes it had plenty of processing power, but with our touch screen I think the controls will be an issue.
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Since Yongzh is helping out, it'll support Input Method, meaning you can use a wiimote classic controller for full control and full, uncluttered screen
r2001uk said:
Since Yongzh is helping out, it'll support Input Method, meaning you can use a wiimote classic controller for full control and full, uncluttered screen
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I really do not see why people are so excited to use a Wii remote with the N1.
That means you have to set the n1 up to act like a TV and stand back from it. The screen is way to small in my opinion for that kind of use. Plus you have to carry around a wii remote also... Portability is completely out the window.
When there is that much trouble you got to ask yourself, is this useful? Yes it can be done, but why?
The last "great" emulation experience I've had on a smart phone was with my old Tilt. The specs on it were just powerful enough to run SNES emulators without any problems, it had a great d-pad for games, and you could map the keyboard's keys to act as button. Without all 3 of these things I have found emulators to be completely pointless.
If I was travelling on the bus/train/whatever, I might not be too keen on using the wii controller.
Since I only get the odd time now and again to play at home or work, I'd much rather use the controller than mess around with on-screen controls and dodgy multitouch. It's no hassle at all to set up.
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I really do not see why people are so excited to use a Wii remote with the N1.
That means you have to set the n1 up to act like a TV and stand back from it. The screen is way to small in my opinion for that kind of use. Plus you have to carry around a wii remote also... Portability is completely out the window.
When there is that much trouble you got to ask yourself, is this useful? Yes it can be done, but why?
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Are you serious? You do realize people aren't swinging their Wii-motes at their phones right? We're just using bluetooth to use the Wii-mote as a hand held D-pad......I'm doing it right now with my phone sitting not more than 4 inches in front of me....I don't get your complaint?
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Are you serious? You do realize people aren't swinging their Wii-motes at their phones right? We're just using bluetooth to use the Wii-mote as a hand held D-pad......I'm doing it right now with my phone sitting not more than 4 inches in front of me....I don't get your complaint?
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Totally agree that it's awesome. I travel a lot and I like to play the occasional game in my hotel. I would prefer to play on a big screen but I'll take what I can get.
I've been playing classic games (snesoid, genesoid, nesoid, gameboid) using the Shift's hardware keyboard and I have to say I'm really impressed. I was upset at first when I found out the shift's d-pad was on the right side of the keyboard but found you can map the buttons WASZ for dpad and it works really really well. So far i've only found a handful of games that were difficult to play with the Shift's keyboard. Works amazing for RPG type games and I was even able to play Super Mario World and Donkey Kong Country really well. Anyone else give gaming a spin using the hardware keyboard?
Not yet,but thats because i havent got my phone yet. Thats one of the reasons i wanted the shift. I want to see how psx4droid runs on it!!
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I've run genesis, snes, gameboy, and nes games with sound and they all have run great, i'm gonna test out psx4droid right now, i'll report back.
It works great, I've never had a problem with the D-pad being on the left or right, both work great for me.
I tried out Silent hill on pxs4droid, it ran smooth, but had a few graphics and sounds issues.
After putting psx4droid through its paces I was kind of disappointed. I think lack of an analog stick has a lot to do with it but the controls just seemed very lacking. Also all of the games I tried had a noticeable amount of lag/stutter that alone wouldn't have been that distracting but combined with the underwhelming controls I found any fast paced games to be unplayable. RPGs however are mint.
Playing games where the controls are on the screen are a pain in the butt.
Like everyone else, I found all the games I've played so far to be very easy with the Shift's keyboard. Imagine how much easier it'll be if they someone makes a Game Gripper for the Shift
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Like everyone else, I found all the games I've played so far to be very easy with the Shift's keyboard. Imagine how much easier it'll be if they someone makes a Game Gripper for the Shift
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I did get an email back from them about that, and they said that they will be working on it shortly.
Soon Sony Ericsson are planning on bringing the Xperia Play into the Android World,It runs Gingerbread but according to GSM Arena,The actual Playstation Suite and store could be avalible on all Droids Running Gingerbread.If thats the case we may be able to play PS on our HD2s Soon,Be ideal Playing them with our Lovely Big 4.3 Inch Screens
http://www.gsmarena.com/the_playsta...d_a_game_store_for_all_androids-news-2259.php
Pretty much an official endorsed psx4droid then
Personally I'm very happy with PSX4Droid. If Sony's software beats it, then that's good, but otherwise I'm quite happy!!
LOL, don't get your hopes too high man, doubt our HD2 can be "PlayStation Certified" by Sony, being an unofficial android device, probably get locked out from the PS store
But still, official PS emulator.. arghh
Unfortunately our hd2s aren't going to have the nice slide out playstation controller like that phone does.
I'm about to transfer the insides of the msi bluetooth controller into a super nintendo controller and try to modify it to attach to my hd2 somehow. I'll post pictures of it once I finish it. It's a shame no manufacturer has released a decent bluetooth controller that can attach to smartphones yet. Even the old msi controllers are nearly impossible to find anymore... I had to pay $80 to get a used one from ebay.... it'll be worth it if this modified snes controller turns out good.
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Unfortunately our hd2s aren't going to have the nice slide out playstation controller like that phone does.
I'm about to transfer the insides of the msi bluetooth controller into a super nintendo controller and try to modify it to attach to my hd2 somehow. I'll post pictures of it once I finish it. It's a shame no manufacturer has released a decent bluetooth controller that can attach to smartphones yet. Even the old msi controllers are nearly impossible to find anymore... I had to pay $80 to get a used one from ebay.... it'll be worth it if this modified snes controller turns out good.
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Seems much cheaper to me to buy a Wii controller off Ebay for $10.00. Just use that in conjunction with Wiimote Controller from the Market and voila, you've got a great joypad for any xxxDroid emulator.
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Seems much cheaper to me to buy a Wii controller off Ebay for $10.00. Just use that in conjunction with Wiimote Controller from the Market and voila, you've got a great joypad for any xxxDroid emulator.
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The wii controller doesn't have as many buttons... the snes controller is setup just like a ps1 controller so its perfect for psx4droid. The wii controller is really thick and big, too, and it won't be as easy to modify to attach to the phone as easily and be confortable to hold. My idea with attaching the snes controller to the phone is gonna make it really nice and portable... it'll attach to the phone in landscape so it will look similar to the new playstation phone , except the controller will be removeable and i'm gonna try to make it universally attachable to any phone, so i can use it still if i get a new phone.
Also, I don't think the wii controller will work with sense builds unless they solved that issue.
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It would be nice if we can play the games too!
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It would be nice if we can play the games too!
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I suspect we'll be able to play games that are written with a subset of the Playstation gaming SDK. It's obviously not gonna let us play games of the quality that you find on the console. It'll probably be like the Xbox Live games that you can play on WP7. You're never gonna play something the quality of Halo 3 on there, just like we're never gonna play Killzone 3.
so i have a paid version of psx4droid v2 on the x10 and it lags on most psx games. i want to know if the lag is mainly related to the CPU or the GPU?
it looks like the Xperia Play is going to be exclusively offered in Canada first and i will try to get my hands on one on launch day but would like to know how much psx emulation will be improved with the Xperia Play compared to the X10.
i'm a die hard SE fan but with the atrix and galaxy s II offering dual-core 1GHz and larger batteries, it will be difficult to stay loyal. i want my next phone to be able to play psx without lag since that is the most resource-intensive thing i do on the phone and was wondering if the Play will be up to the task with its newer CPU (Qualcomm 8255 vs 8250) and its newer GPU (Adreno 205 vs 200).
i need your input please.
good question I think cause it's android and cause it's gaming oriented maybe it won't lag but there's just a chance that xperia play has it's own games this means games created to use it's processor, ram, etc
not sure if psxdroid won't lag
Try FPse... It's a much better playstation emulator, it doesn't lag at all for me!
Also, try messing with the settings, some games require you to change the framerate and such, i found out some games ran alot smoother. Otherwise, like fiscidtox said, FPse.
Isn't FPse for android 2.2 + ?
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Isn't FPse for android 2.2 + ?
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yes.. it is
I'm on freex10 beta 4 and it works flawlessly.. FPse is the best emulator on android imo
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Try FPse... It's a much better playstation emulator, it doesn't lag at all for me!
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Thank you very much. I been on psx4droid i never realised about FPse, runs alot faster.
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Thank you very much. I been on psx4droid i never realised about FPse, runs alot faster.
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No problem
Yeah it is definitely much better.. Psx4droid was very laggy and glitchy, I never have any issues with FPse. It is worth every penny.
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Isn't FPse for android 2.2 + ?
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that explains why i couldn't find it on the market..
guess i'll have to switch to 2.2+ as i'm still using the stock 2.1. but that makes me feel confident that i won't need a dual-core CPU to run PSX games, i just need a better emulator (FPseCe).
before I do the rom upgrade, can anyone tell me if the emulator features custom hardware button mapping? i have a datel bluetooth wireless gamepad that works off the WiimoteControl software as i can't stand playing using the on-screen controls. will i be able to use it with FPseCe?
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that explains why i couldn't find it on the market..
guess i'll have to switch to 2.2+ as i'm still using the stock 2.1. but that makes me feel confident that i won't need a dual-core CPU to run PSX games, i just need a better emulator (FPseCe).
before I do the rom upgrade, can anyone tell me if the emulator features custom hardware button mapping? i have a datel bluetooth wireless gamepad that works off the WiimoteControl software as i can't stand playing using the on-screen controls. will i be able to use it with FPseCe?
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yep you can do that!
thanks. i have another question to add: i still haven't made the update yet to see for myself but with psx4droid, it only reads directional buttons (up, down, left, right) but doesn't read diagonal movements making action games very hard to play (most of the psx roms i have are all action). i use my datel bluetooth controller on my sony vaio using a psx emulator and it reads diagonal movements fine so i know the controller is not the problem.
i want to know if anyone has tried a bluetooth game controller with FPseCe and if diagonal movements work fine. if it doesn't, the problem can either be related to the wiimote controller plug-in software or in the FPseCe emulator itself. the reason i ask this is because if it doesn't work, then there's a chance the xperia play's diagonal actions on the directional buttons won't work either. this is the last criteria on my list on whether the xperia play will be my next phone. otherwise, there's no point in getting the phone because i find playing psx games much more fun than android-based games.. and that i might as well go for the Arc instead for the premium hawtness and larger lcd.
on a random side note, i've just realized the trend in how long i have been keeping my phones before going out to buy a new one... t68i (3 years), s700i (2.5 years), p1i (2 years), x1a (1.5 years), x10a (8 months and counting)......... i'm planning to get the Play or Arc in 2 months but i wonder how long that will last me until i decide to upgrade again.... 6 months?
Yes I'm using a wiimote and diagonal works perfectly... Trust me it is a much better emulator. There is nothing psx4droid can do that this can't.
On another note, play or arc are both ridiculous in my mind.. Technology that is already dated and, as you said, will require upgrade in a few months..I'd save your money and keep x10...
the reason i want to switch phones is because my battery is not holding a charge and lasts about half the day with little use. also, all the batteries on ebay are all garbage and a legit bst-41 battery is almost $100 total (last time i checked).
the reason i bought the x10 was because the battery in my x1a wouldn't hold a charge to last for more than 4 hours on standby only. at the time i got my x10 for $420 from someone who upgraded his wife's phone who didn't need it. at that price, it came with a new battery making the phone itself cost only about $320.
so rather than buying a new battery, why not upgrade to another phone that has the same battery (bst-41)? the way i see it, i will be getting a discount on the xperia play since it includes a new battery already that comes included with the price.
i totally agree with it not having any real significant hardware advantage over the x10 but the fact that it comes with game controls built-in is what is winning me over. i predict the next time SE will be coming out with another flagship android smartphone won't be for another year and i don't think i'll be able to hold on to my x10 for that long. i'm not a fan of other brands as they all put soft-touch buttons at the bottom and most of them also don't make phones that have the same sort of quality feel and design as SE.
I really don't find SE makes that quality of a feeling phone.. It is very plastic and feels like it would break easily. Plus the screen is pretty flimsy...
I love my x10, but I never got how people say that the build quality of x10 is spectacular.
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true. its much better.
and then hook up a wii controller to ur bluetooth and ur having so much fun !
I tried fpse it's smooth indeed, but i can't save game any spot i want, i can't assign hardware key, the onscreen keyboard of landscape is crap, or am I missed something?
You can assign hardware keys, just go to input in settings. As for saving I'm not sure I haven't yet but I'm sure you can
read the user manual now got all those function work but still a major problem.
playing ff7 the character is always moving against my will, did you guys experience something like this?
My nexus one pays most emulated games well. N64 games are really not paying well though. Hoping that although xperia play is the same cpu, the better graphics card will help.
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Has anyone else thought of emulators on the ouya? Playing retro games on the big screen again would be great. Personally this is one of the biggest reasons I'm excited for the console. Can't wait to play ocarina of time.
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Has anyone else thought of emulators on the ouya? Playing retro games on the big screen again would be great. Personally this is one of the biggest reasons I'm excited for the console. Can't wait to play ocarina of time.
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I've bought/pre ordered the ouya primarily for xbmc, but being able to pay some classics like shadow run and legend of Zelda, whilst lying in bed on a Sunday morning is massively appealing.
It's starting to feel like Christmas with the release just around the corner and I'm looking forward to seeing what the devs around here do when they get their mucky paws on it.
cooool
No, I prefer something like the Xperia Play for emulators, though its a bit out dated in term of performance. But the Ouya should do emulators really well too. I'm mainly getting the Ouya to use as an HTPC.
ditto.
I backed OUYA mainly for XBMC but the fact that I can run emulations is a bonus. imaging DosBox with all the old school Sierra games, on the big screen.
Emulate
God i totally love the idea of using emulators on this it's another reason i purchased it. On my phone gs2 i use the playstation emulators gameboy eveyrthing now to be able to do it on a tv.... man im excited
Search YouTube. Tons of videos of devs using side loaded emulators to play old school games on the Ouya. It's reality, folks.
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I backed OUYA mainly for XBMC but the fact that I can run emulations is a bonus. imaging DosBox with all the old school Sierra games, on the big screen.
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Honestly, there's not really more "possibility" with emulation on the Ouya than there is on any other somewhat recent Android device.
There is one bad thing. The focus Ouya team are now placing on emulators could result in unneeded focus on the subject and gaming company retained lawyers could be out for money. Kind of like when MP3 started getting popular and you had a lot of one hit wonders trying to sue for a back catalogue that nobody even bought when they were new. Saturday Night Live had a funny skit about that.
Ouya had better be careful, since they are pushing it as a feature, which will be like a bleeding cut in the water to lawyers.
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There is one bad thing. The focus Ouya team are now placing on emulators could result in unneeded focus on the subject and gaming company retained lawyers could be out for money. Kind of like when MP3 started getting popular and you had a lot of one hit wonders trying to sue for a back catalogue that nobody even bought when they were new. Saturday Night Live had a funny skit about that.
Ouya had better be careful, since they are pushing it as a feature, which will be like a bleeding cut in the water to lawyers.
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I dunno about having to worry that much about emulation and the legalities for the OUYA. Heck, google play sells emulators that can be used on any android device. the ouya is that itself.. just another android device. emulation isn't illegal..
The emulation is not illegal, only the BIOS and the Games which are downloaded
are more or less illegal. These would have to be copied from your own console with
special equipment... nobody does this in the time of internet.
Theoretically this things could be free to download if the copyright owner allows this.
There is also my idea, that Nintendo and others aren't interested in forbidding emulation
for some (not every) console and that's why they aren't fighting against emulation.
In Ouya you can download and install anything... So, doesn't matter if it's legal or not...
Has anyone tested the Interworks Controller Pro U (aka Retro Classic Controller) with the Ouya (or any Android device)? I'm especially interested in joystick functionality...
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I've sideloaded SNES9X emu, works good. Started playing chrono trigger, it nice it has an option to let joystick function as dpad.
I'm about to see n64oids performance on the ouya. If it does run smoothly then I guess I will be replaying Zelda oot
I personally prefer mupen64. Ouya is plenty powerful enough for it anyway
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Emulators, I hadn't even thought of that, now I'm really excited about the Ouya, mine should be arriving very soon... I think some companies turn a blind eye to very old emulated games because it keeps their IP popular, which for some franchises still has some value.
For now, i managed to work gba, nes, snes, genesis, psx and n64 emulators via sideloading and all worked smooth with posibility of assign hardware pad buttons to them
There are 3 emulators in the OUYA store.
1. EMUya for NES emulation with intergrated ROM store (I'm sure this won't go forever, pretty much illegal).
2. Mugen64 is an N64 emulator which works better than any N64 I tested before, plus it's already mapped to work with the OUYA controller and does so flawlessly. No lag whatsoever
3. 2 different SNES emulators which also work very good. One of them is already altered to work perfect with the OUYA the other one is a known one from the play store.
I got the ouya especially for emulation, because hooking up my Galaxy S3 via HDMI to the TV and using a PS3 wireless controller was too much of a hassle and had a crazy input lag. With the OUYA no input lags at all.
Feels like playing the real consoles. Finally.