Hello all I have a HTC/Fuze (Raphael) with AT&T and can access the web just fine. I however did not get a data plan on the the phone..just an unlimited text to talk family plan. This is an offered plan in case you do not want a data plan. My question is how can you tell if you are using your wifi to access the internet and not the att network. I don't want to be charged for using the internet (since i have no data plan)...I went to the att store yesterday and they told me I can still get charged for using their network to access the net even though I have no data plan... can anyone help me with this question?
Thanks.
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Hello all I have a HTC/Fuze (Raphael) with AT&T and can access the web just fine. I however did not get a data plan on the the phone..just an unlimited text to talk family plan. This is an offered plan in case you do not want a data plan. My question is how can you tell if you are using your wifi to access the internet and not the att network. I don't want to be charged for using the internet (since i have no data plan)...I went to the att store yesterday and they told me I can still get charged for using their network to access the net even though I have no data plan... can anyone help me with this question?
Thanks.
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you need to use the HTC data connection application. you should be able to totally disallow any internet connection.
I am using an Orbit 2 on O2 UK, when wifi is connected it will only use it until disconnected or out of range, then reverts back to 3G.
You will know when it reverts back because the speed of the internet will slow significantly.
I completely disable/delete the medianet and AT&T ISP profiles so that it doesn't ever connect over 3G.
I have the same setup as you (but with a Tilt, no data plan). Download Modaco No Data cab, install and disable the ISP (the first option). This will turn off data usage but still allow you to send and recieve text and MMS.
I have been using my new mytouch without a data plan for about a week now. I had data when I activated the phone (didn't sign up for it, but was able to connect), but they have since blocked it. Everything works fine without a data plan except for one thing - MMS. MMS is not working for me now, and I suspect its because I don't have a data plan. I tried changing around APN settings, but haven't managed to find a combination that works. Anyone have any ideas on work around?
So that is weird because technically, without data, you should only get mms / sms and phone.
mms uses the data connection
MMS messages need the data connection to work. SMS messages should work without a data connection since they are transmitted over the signaling portion of the cell channel.
Without the data plan MMS will not work.
Why then did MMS work on my T-Mobile Dash without a data plan?
Dash was a different phone
Windows Mobile on the dash handled data differently than the android software, plus the network systems have been changed to recognize data phones and require the correct data plans.
The Dash was not supposed to get MMS without a data plan but it worked as long as you could connect to T-zones.
Wi-fi works but to get the most of this phone the $24.99 plan is required.
yea i had the same thing the data worked over 3g for about a day. u can buy the phone form walmart and u will not have to to get the 24.99 data plan i just told them i have it on another line.
So...you can have a PDA/Smartphone, and not get hit with the additional cost of a data plan. Is this where you'd need a "unlocked" phone?
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So...you can have a PDA/Smartphone, and not get hit with the additional cost of a data plan. Is this where you'd need a "unlocked" phone?
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to view MMS without a data plan? No cuz an unlocked phone only allows you to use the phone with other carriers.
is there anyway to activate it without dataplan simcard....? with wifi same like g1
I think that myTouch "need" simcard with data plan to activate it. only wifi is impossible to activate.
However, I've another question. Is it possible to use this phone when I have no Internet conneciton (wifi/2G/3G)? I just need to use if for making a call.
yes. if your mytouch 3g is alrady activated (needs sim cardwith data plan for that), you can SMS and make phonecalls and check voicemail (visual voicemail does need data tho) without any data connection, just like normal cellphones.
OK folks. For those of you that missed it. The My Touch has to be activated using a sim card with a data plan attached. Once that is done, you don't need data. MMS on the MyTouch runs through the data portion of the network. Yot car root the phone, load up a different recovery image like Cyanogen or Amon ra's, and no more need to activate that handheld again. As for MMS, no fix for that. You have to have data to send an MMS. Large text, Picture, Or video messages will not work on a text package alone. A "large" text message is about 133 characters or more. Don't realy remember to well these days. The phone was designed around a data connection. Without it, you're gonna have issues.
Is there a List?
Is there a list of phones that MMS won't work or other features are disabled? The G1 used to not need data now T-mobile say's it does? so if I was to get a G1 without data is MMS gone? Curious about the Nokia nuron or nexus 1 is anything disabled without data?
I want to get a nice phone preferably with wifi but no data plan what is my best option a list of phones that work 100% without Data would be very cool...
Need to know my options so I can start trying to get a deal on the phone I select.
Thanks
Hurlamania
Das_mobile said:
Wi-fi works but to get the most of this phone the $24.99 plan is required.
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No not really. the $10 Unlimited web for phone data plan works. Just need to tweak around the apn settings.
I have also seen some forums that included that a 5.99$ Tzone data plan also work with mytouch 3g. However it is difficult to get that plan.
After activating and sim unlocking the phone, If I ever factory data reset, would I have to activate it again with a Tmobile sim card?
Now I am confused.
I have a MyTouch3g from t-mobile. I bought it used so I did not need to get the data plan to activate it, however, picture messages still work just fine for me, as do video. I would like to know why.
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I have a MyTouch3g from t-mobile. I bought it used so I did not need to get the data plan to activate it, however, picture messages still work just fine for me, as do video. I would like to know why.
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Are you getting charged for data usage? AFAIK all MMS has to go over towers so that the carriers network can authenticate the phone they're are coming from, but I could be wrong.
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im an android enthusiast coming from a g1 and a droid. i want the hd2 because of its ability to flash almost any os to it. now here is my main question. im switching to at&t in a week. im getting a dumbphone. i cant pay for data. and i dont care about data anyway. i have been using my droid like an ipod touch for a year now. i would like to buy and unlock an hd2. can i simply pop my sim card from my dumbphone into the hd2? and not pay any data as long as i keep the data sync off when not in wifi?
or will at&t switch data on and charge me?
thanks everyone. i truly love these forums.
All the OS´s on HD2 I know allow you to turn the data connection off, that includes WinMo, WP7 and Android. Guess that won´t be any different with the others.
Assuming you get it unlocked, yes. However, there are a few caveats. First, AT&T doesn't/won't switch on the data on the phone. All of that is controlled through Android's necessity for a data connection. Now, if you boot Android from the SD I believe you can set some parameters for the start up to disable the data connection. I'm not sure whether you can do the same booting from NAND. You can, however, just delete the APN from the network settings and it will have no way to connect.
will at&t attach data to my bill if i start using the hd2 with my dumbphone sim card? even if i keep data off?
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will at&t attach data to my bill if i start using the hd2 with my dumbphone sim card? even if i keep data off?
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No they shouldn't charge you for data unless you ask for a data plan or if you do not keep the HD2 from calling for a data signal.
Member drewden123 had a very good suggestion about deleting the APN. That is a sure fire way to stop any data connection from ever being able to be established.
okay. if i delete the apn i will still be able to use data over wifi right? and could someone provide instructions how how to do this? sorry for my noobieness
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okay. if i delete the apn i will still be able to use data over wifi right? and could someone provide instructions how how to do this? sorry for my noobieness
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Yes if you delete the APN it will not effect your use of WiFi. Thde APN is strickly for your cellular data connection.
To delete the APN you need to be booted into Android and then open your app tray. Then select Settings>Wireless & networks>Mobile networks>Acess Point Names then just open the APN settings for your carrier and delete them one by one. I would write them down or save them somehow though in case you ever decide to get a data plan and need the AP settings back.
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Yes if you delete the APN it will not effect your use of WiFi. Thde APN is strickly for your cellular data connection.
To delete the APN you need to be booted into Android and then open your app tray. Then select Settings>Wireless & networks>Mobile networks>Acess Point Names then just open the APN settings for your carrier and delete them one by one. I would write them down or save them somehow though in case you ever decide to get a data plan and need the AP settings back.
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Yup. Now, if you are being very careful, I would boot into Android without the SIM and delete all the APNs just in case the data connection doesn't start up automatically. Unless the APNs are somehow created upon the insertion of the SIM, then that would be pointless. (Someone else should verify this because I just started using GSM with my purchase of the HD2, so I don't know that much about it)
i have a xv6800 and i purchased the unlimited data plan before Verizon stopped there unlimited data. its not blocked through verizon, i took of all restrictions and blocks. so then i went on to the phone to turn on data connection and it wont turn on. its grayed out and not white like the bluetooth or WLAN.
do i need to re-install the rom? or what? can someone help?
Hey guys i just got a atrix 4g unlocked for tmobile running cm7. I do not have a data plan but i do have unlimited messaging. is there any apn setting out there that allows me to send and recieve just mms and no data other than that. how would i go about configuring my phone to do so? i would really appreciate the help. its really annoying having to toggle the data on and off whenever i recieve a picture message.
You could just call tmobilr and have them disable the data. Then no overage and no toggling every 10 seconds
so that wont shut off all my data? because i know you need to have data enabled on the phone in order to download the mms.
They wont charge you for data use on mms if you deny data at all. They will make the phone a calling/mms/SMS only then. Wifi would be your phones new friend.