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Man I returned my EVO Cuz I read somewhere Droid x HDMI can play with all programs includes YouTube, Blockbuster apps, or anything now I just read somewhere on the internet that an actual user was reviewing the device (go ahead google it) it will only support self made videos and pictures only I'm like WHAT THE ****!!! THIS IS ALMOST A DEAL BREAKER LOL anyone know about this?DAMN!!!
PS this goes to show that rumors is so much out there and until you wait and see it is really out and user Really review it really count.
Care to explain where you read this?
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It's in several reviews, though I can't remember which ones off the top of my head.
Its in the user guide that is out. HDMI is for user created content only (created on the phone). Definitely sucks, but not a deal breaker for me as DNLA is good enough for me. It's not like it is a feature other phones can do, then I would be pissed.
Only until we get root if this is true
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Still ****ed up tho since it was being boasted everywhere how HDMI is better than evo
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Still ****ed up tho since it was being boasted everywhere how HDMI is better than evo
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I was in hopes that being it reads divx... I could plug straight into the tv anywhere with my torrents : )
Damn. HDMI was my main justification for upgrading from Incredible. Now I am going to have come up with a new excuse. This is becoming harder since the X sounds like it is a bit baggy in terms of UI,even if it isn't called blur, and the DI has been rooted (although in a pain-in-the-ass fashion)
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I was in hopes that being it reads divx... I could plug straight into the tv anywhere with my torrents : )
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It should, they stated that it is only enabled when you are in the Gallery, so if you can play your movies in the gallery then you can use HDMI.
So it is not only pictures and movies you take it is all pictures and movies in the gallery, you just cannot use HDMI for your apps, IE Youtube, etc.
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It should, they stated that it is only enabled when you are in the Gallery, so if you can play your movies in the gallery then you can use HDMI.
So it is not only pictures and movies you take it is all pictures and movies in the gallery, you just cannot use HDMI for your apps, IE Youtube, etc.
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I don't have the device so I can't be certain, but the user manual for the device states only media created by the phone can be displayed via HDMI. So don't get your hopes up until you see someone doing otherwise.
With it being a signed bootloader i doubt we're going to have custom roms or drivers that fix this. Though who knows, once it's rooted, maybe there's just a config file that needs hacking. Depends on how deeply this is programed into the OS.
So are you saying that If I load a playable movie file into my telephone's video gallery......I should be able to watch it through the HDMI port? Kinda Confusing....cause I've heard some people say you can do it........others say you can't.
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So are you saying that If I load a playable movie file into my telephone's video gallery......I should be able to watch it through the HDMI port? Kinda Confusing....cause I've heard some people say you can do it........others say you can't.
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According to the user manual you cannot. So until someone posts proof otherwise, I would go with the user manual.
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I don't have the device so I can't be certain, but the user manual for the device states only media created by the phone can be displayed via HDMI. So don't get your hopes up until you see someone doing otherwise.
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Im so ready for this device to hit the shelves....because all of this speculation is killing me.
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Im so ready for this device to hit the shelves....because all of this speculation is killing me.
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Me too, been on a old WinMo phone after I gave up my Imagio to an coworker to get their upgrade for this. Been 3 weeks of just using a phone as a phone, sucks!
according to
the SlashGear review it can play side loaded video files via the HDMI.
http://www.slashgear.com/droid-x-review-0793011/
I don't normally go to this site so don't know how reliable they are.
Clarity feels so good right now!
I just left work from Verizon and just got done discussing the Droid X with our Technical support trainers.......they led me to beleive that the Droid X will output video via HDMI as long as it's not DRM protected.
So that brings me to my next question....If I download a DVD torrent file.....is it DRM protected?
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So that brings me to my next question....If I download a DVD torrent file.....is it DRM protected?
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More than likely anything you grab from a torrent isn't going to have DRM
Well then as long as I can grab one of these phones soon as the release date....I'll be set to go then.
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Clarity feels so good right now!
I just left work from Verizon and just got done discussing the Droid X with our Technical support trainers.......they led me to beleive that the Droid X will output video via HDMI as long as it's not DRM protected.
So that brings me to my next question....If I download a DVD torrent file.....is it DRM protected?
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sweet
So the FPS cap sucks, and the lag is frustrating, but I’m confident that these will be resolved as some point and I still love my launch day 002 EVO. Never had any of the physical issues that most other people had, with no screen separation or light leaks, and the last update seemed to fix the grounding issue (which was very rare and minor on my phone). The screen and size are just right for me. I’ve been waiting for this phone ever since I heard that HTC was working on a monster snapdragon phone at the end of last year. But I’ll still be trading it in for the Epic 4G. Why? DLNA.
I’ve been using an AT&T Tilt since it launched some 4 years ago (which is what I've been using until I got the EVO). It was great at the time, and has served me very well, what with loading custom ROMs and all. Even got Android working on it for a while (which was fun, but not very practical). One of the things I was able to do on the Tilt was the ability to map my shared home network media folders (which I use to stream media to my xbox360s) as a drive on the phone so that when I was connected to my home network over wifi on the phone, I could use coreplayer to stream all of my AVI files from my home network to my phone and watch them with virtually no stutter anywhere in the house.
I’ve yet to see any apps for android that will let me do that. Either you’re able to access the home networked files (with something like andromote), but it doesn’t play AVI files, or a decent AVI player is found (lovin’ Rockplayer), but will only play local files.
With the Epic 4G (and all of the Galaxy S variants, I think), not only can this be done, but it’s super simple through their Allshare app. And it plays AVI video files natively.
People say that you shouldn't choose a new phone based on possible future capabilities for your model of phone, that you're not even sure it will be getting - either through a hack, root, or an official update. The Epic is here, now (or will be soon), with my own personal killer app. So there you go. Why I’ll be switching to the Epic 4G on launch day.
It’s sort of win/win though – I’ll be giving the wife the EVO, and getting the Epic 4G for myself, so it will still stay in the family ;-)
oook !
i have no lag i dont play games on my phone so the 30fps thing is null for me
but enjoy
gmote seems to be in the process of adding streaming to the phone from home networks. Check it out.
wow there is 2 mins of my life I will never see again
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wow there is 2 mins of my life I will never see again
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Wow - Just think of all of the productive things you could have done instead...
Why, there are plenty of things you can do right in your own community. You can visit a dairy, and find out how milk is handled and prepared for delivery. Or plan a series of window displays on home safety. You can start a library. You can discuss with your dentist what you can do to make your teeth more attractive...
there is an app called ORB that does this dude...
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gmote seems to be in the process of adding streaming to the phone from home networks. Check it out.
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I actually did look at gmote, but their streaming plans seem to be limited to music files only.
Thanks for the suggestion, though.
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there is an app called ORB that does this dude...
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Tried orb - didn't care for the choppiness. With DLNA, we're talking same quality as loading the video onto the phone itself.
I stream videos just fine on my EVO and dont pay anyone anything:
# vlc -v video.avi -I dummy --sout "#transcode{vcodec=h264,venc=x264{no-cabac,level=12,vbv-maxrate=384,vbv-bufsize=1000,keyint=75,ref=3,bframes=0},width=320, height=180,acodec=mp4a,ab=64,vb=384}:rtp{dst=,port=4555,sdp=rtsp://server:4555/stream.sdp,mp4a-latm}"
Go to: rtsp://server:4555/stream.sdp in your browser and watch video.
I view dish network on my EVO using the following as well:
vlc -v vlc -v v4l2:///dev/video0 :v4l2-standard=3:v4l2-standard=45056 :v4l2-chroma= :v4l2-input=1 :v4l2-audio-input=0 :v4l2-io=1 :v4l2-width=640 :v4l2-height=480 -I dummy --sout "#transcode{vcodec=h264,venc=x264{no-cabac,level=12,vbv-maxrate=384,vbv-bufsize=1000,keyint=75,ref=3,bframes=0},width=320, height=180,acodec=mp4a,ab=64,vb=384}:rtp{dst=,port=4555,sdp=rtsp://server:4555/stream.sdp,mp4a-latm}"
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I stream videos just fine on my EVO and dont pay anyone anything:
# vlc -v video.avi -I dummy --sout "#transcode{vcodec=h264,venc=x264{no-cabac,level=12,vbv-maxrate=384,vbv-bufsize=1000,keyint=75,ref=3,bframes=0},width=320, height=180,acodec=mp4a,ab=64,vb=384}:rtp{dst=,port=4555,sdp=rtsp://server:4555/stream.sdp,mp4a-latm}"
Go to: rtsp://server:4555/stream.sdp in your browser and watch video
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Now this is something I find fascinating, but in all honesty, this seems to be a much more complicated solution, and I would be willing to try it, if the solution on the Epic wasn't so elegant.
Question though - I have all of my media meticulously organized into various folders for movie genre and TV shows/seasons, which makes browsing to the right video file easy. How does browsing for the correct video file form the phone work on your end?
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I stream videos just fine on my EVO and dont pay anyone anything:
# vlc -v video.avi -I dummy --sout "#transcode{vcodec=h264,venc=x264{no-cabac,level=12,vbv-maxrate=384,vbv-bufsize=1000,keyint=75,ref=3,bframes=0},width=320, height=180,acodec=mp4a,ab=64,vb=384}:rtp{dst=,port=4555,sdp=rtsp://server:4555/stream.sdp,mp4a-latm}"
Go to: rtsp://server:4555/stream.sdp in your browser and watch video.
I view dish network on my EVO using the following as well:
vlc -v vlc -v v4l2:///dev/video0 :v4l2-standard=3:v4l2-standard=45056 :v4l2-chroma= :v4l2-input=1 :v4l2-audio-input=0 :v4l2-io=1 :v4l2-width=640 :v4l2-height=480 -I dummy --sout "#transcode{vcodec=h264,venc=x264{no-cabac,level=12,vbv-maxrate=384,vbv-bufsize=1000,keyint=75,ref=3,bframes=0},width=320, height=180,acodec=mp4a,ab=64,vb=384}:rtp{dst=,port=4555,sdp=rtsp://server:4555/stream.sdp,mp4a-latm}"
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holy crap that's some low quality
320x180
video: 384
audio: 64
i'm guessing you need VLC and DSS for this? or just VLC
i've actually been trying to get something like this figured out for a bit now but just haven't gotten my brain wrapped around it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6495551#post6495551
zonyl said:
I stream videos just fine on my EVO and dont pay anyone anything:
# vlc -v video.avi -I dummy --sout "#transcode{vcodec=h264,venc=x264{no-cabac,level=12,vbv-maxrate=384,vbv-bufsize=1000,keyint=75,ref=3,bframes=0},width=320, height=180,acodec=mp4a,ab=64,vb=384}:rtp{dst=,port=4555,sdp=rtsp://server:4555/stream.sdp,mp4a-latm}"
Go to: rtsp://server:4555/stream.sdp in your browser and watch video.
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Sorry for the novice question, but where do I input the above to set this up using Windows??
Anyone try?:
"We even offer a mobile version of our server. Currently available free in the Android™ app store, TwonkyServer Mobile lets you serve music, photos or video from your phone to devices all around the home."
http://www.twonkymedia.com/products/twonkyserver/
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Anyone try?:
"We even offer a mobile version of our server. Currently available free in the Android™ app store, TwonkyServer Mobile lets you serve music, photos or video from your phone to devices all around the home."
http://www.twonkymedia.com/products/twonkyserver/
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Tried enough to see that it was almost what I wanted. Unless I missed something, this will only allow you to stream from android to a DLNA device, but not the other way around. They also appear ot have a solution that will allow you to download files from the DLNA server to the andoid phone, but I don't want to download any of the files to the phone, just stream.
Shoot em' an email [email protected] &/or try their other support options-forums, let us know how it goes,
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DLNA is nice, but I cant fast forward movies from my computer...... HDMI/USB connect FTW!
Why wasn't this added as a reply to one of the other Epic threads (of which there are too many for an Evo forum)?
Samsung sucks
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Samsung sucks
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lol sure thats why they have released source code with drivers for the galaxy s before the phone was released. Thats why there cpu thats 1 ghz almost runs 2x faster then snapdragon. Thats why there code runs 20% faster then other android phone. Thats why they get 90 million triangles per sec and evo gets get 12. Thats why they have avi support and the best screen on any android phone because they suck right?
Anyway I am getting one as well and I would give my evo to the wife but she does not want it. She likes her N1 way better. I will never buy a crap htc phone again. I am so glad that Samsung has released the source code and are allowing us to mod the phone. I think they have learned from there past mistakes.
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lol sure thats why they have released source code with drivers for the galaxy s before the phone was released. Thats why there cpu thats 1 ghz almost runs 2x faster then snapdragon. Thats why there code runs 20% faster then other android phone. Thats why they get 90 million triangles per sec and evo gets get 12. Thats why they have avi support and the best screen on any android phone because they suck right?
Anyway I am getting one as well and I would give my evo to the wife but she does not want it. She likes her N1 way better. I will never buy a crap htc phone again. I am so glad that Samsung has released the source code and are allowing us to mod the phone. I think they have learned from there past mistakes.
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I never knew this turned into a bad mouth HTC thread. Go ahead and get your samsung, but don't come crying to us when something goes wrong, or you want features that you can get on the evo and not your phone.
Hello, now that we cant use Skyfire for Flash purposes, what are our options?
? Gone like how?
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? Gone like how?
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Last week when you try to connect you get an error saying "due to high demand the service is unavailable" or something like that. The problem is they released it for iPhone last week and had to pull it from the market because they took all the bandwidth of their servers.
Yeah I am seeing that now. I wonder if it's actually down for good, or just because of the iTard crap. I'm sure that the people at Skyfire would have said something if they where killing off the platform that started their company.
The Skyfire app for the Iphone costs about $3, whereas the one for Windows Mobile is free. My guess is the Iphone users get the priority on the servers. There is no incentive for them to turn it back on for WM users, unless they start charging for the app.
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The Skyfire app for the Iphone costs about $3, whereas the one for Windows Mobile is free. My guess is the Iphone users get the priority on the servers. There is no incentive for them to turn it back on for WM users, unless they start charging for the app.
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I haddent even thought of that! I was hoping the servers were just overloaded. I looked on their blogs and they mention it hoping to get up sometime soon. I hope they don't shut out WM. I would pay a couple of bucks if it ment I could get it to work.
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I haddent even thought of that! I was hoping the servers were just overloaded. I looked on their blogs and they mention it hoping to get up sometime soon. I hope they don't shut out WM. I would pay a couple of bucks if it ment I could get it to work.
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But it's just too much work to keep supporting it on WM, even if they charge for it, the reason is that there just isn't a huge market on WM, most people have moved onto Android and iPhone.
is there anything else to use as a replacement? something else with flash?
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is there anything else to use as a replacement? something else with flash?
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Uzard, I think.
Perhaps Bolt, but that has to work inside a Java JVM.
I was hoping that there was something else that would allow me to play the various games on facebook (silly I know)
I just tried uZard and it wont load the games.
thanks for the input guys!
I still do not think that Skyfire is permanently down, I think it's because of all the iTards rapeing their servers downloading it to fix what Apple won't. Skyfire launched on WinMo, and thats where ALL of their revenue came from in the beginning, so I really doubt that they would just up and quit without an explanation. I am one of the original Skyfire users, and back in the day you had to sign up for the service(albeit free) via SMS, and they still send me a text every now and then with a state of the network kinda thing...
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...Skyfire launched on WinMo, and thats where ALL of their revenue came from in the beginning...
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How did they make money if they did not charge for the Skyfire app on the WM platform?
Back in the day, Skyfire for WM was ad supported.
Doesn't Opera Beta 10 or Opera 10 work with flash? Been using it since I saw it come out and abandoned Skyfire cuz it worked so well.
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Doesn't Opera Beta 10 or Opera 10 work with flash? Been using it since I saw it come out and abandoned Skyfire cuz it worked so well.
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I thought IE on the phone had flash support? I don't do a lot of web browsing on my phone though, so I haven't really tested it. I know Youtube videos work.
go here and let them have it! http://getsatisfaction.com/skyfire/topics/skyfire_is_down_for_wm_users
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I still do not think that Skyfire is permanently down, I think it's because of all the iTards rapeing their servers downloading it to fix what Apple won't. Skyfire launched on WinMo, and thats where ALL of their revenue came from in the beginning, so I really doubt that they would just up and quit without an explanation. I am one of the original Skyfire users, and back in the day you had to sign up for the service(albeit free) via SMS, and they still send me a text every now and then with a state of the network kinda thing...
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yes! i remember!
it was so annoying having to sign in everytime!!
uzard takes a little getting used to, but i like it better than skyfire. and it screen rotates . taking no credit for this, just passing along the cab .
UZARD , is a great browser, but i can only get it to work when installed on my card
Watching Showtime right now on this website. Set user agent to Android. This is a work around until we get the real deal.
http://www.shadownet.ro/channels.php
I'm sorry. Download Skyfire from market. You'll need that browser.
Amazing. These are the posts I like to see as opposed to the whiny ones.
This launch is taking me back to the G1 launch...
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Watching Showtime right now on this website. Set user agent to Android. This is a work around until we get the real deal.
http://www.shadownet.ro/channels.php
I'm sorry. Download Skyfire from market. You'll need that browser.
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Explain what you did, what you downloaded...every detail please.
For some reason Skyfire is able to stream flash content on this site. Click on the video icon and wait for it to buffer. You'll see the player pop up and then the live channel streams.
Skyfire uses a server based flash implementation..it decodes flash video on a server and sends it to you in h.264.
This is not flash on the xoom.
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Duh. Did you miss words work around. It is streaming flash content.
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Duh. Did you miss words work around. It is streaming flash content.
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I think he's just trying to explain skyfire has always run flash in browser. It's not a recent work around or even something new, and it works on pretty much all flash videos.
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Duh. Did you miss words work around. It is streaming flash content.
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No, it's not.
Exactly - it has nothing to do with Flash.
I am curious how long will they be able to keep it up - who is paying for all this traffic created and servers.
Skyfire is no longer providing its services in Poland - maybe they start to be the victim of their own success?
I want to see real Flash and if I will be able to watch HULU for free like on the PC.
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Exactly - it has nothing to do with Flash.
I am curious how long will they be able to keep it up - who is paying for all this traffic created and servers.
Skyfire is no longer providing its services in Poland - maybe they start to be the victim of their own success?
I want to see real Flash and if I will be able to watch HULU for free like on the PC.
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You won't see hulu in the browser until they allow mobile flash.
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I was just thinking about the whole movie rental thing not being available to root users because they are lumping us all in with thieves. How's this for a solution?
Instead of making it where we can't rent movies, can't they just make it where we aren't able to download them to the device (in other words, no pinning.) and only make them streamable? I would be happy with that. I mean, it would suck for flights and stuff where you don't have a connection, but It'd be better than the solution that they've currently got going.
Thoughts?
screw that they get no money
the movie industry can continue to screw themselves over
Yeah I dont understand... it just gives people a REASON to Pirate movies.
"oh I cant rent this movie on my tablet? Fine then I'll just hit up a torrent site"
Expecting the media copyright holders to be reasonable might be a bit naive
Google has to go along with whatever crazy **** they demand to license their content.
I have no problem whatsoever paying for a rental. I pay for netflix, hulu and frequently comcast on-demand stuff already. If I want to watch a movie on my tablet though, and the easiest thing to do is hit up usenet, then so be it. It usually downloads faster that way anyway.
If they want my money, they just have to make it convenient or at the very least not annoying...
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I have no problem whatsoever paying for a rental. I pay for netflix, hulu and frequently comcast on-demand stuff already. If I want to watch a movie on my tablet though, and the easiest thing to do is hit up usenet, then so be it. It usually downloads faster that way anyway.
If they want my money, they just have to make it convenient or at the very least not annoying...
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My sentiment exactly!
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Yeah I dont understand... it just gives people a REASON to Pirate movies.
"oh I cant rent this movie on my tablet? Fine then I'll just hit up a torrent site"
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Amen, brother.
Has anyone tried Amazon's video service? Not sure if it works on the Xoom / if it uses a special player.
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On another thread someone said that rooted Xooms could rent Google movies, just rent them through the web-based market. I haven't tried it yet.
web market works
Web market works for movie rentals through the native browser, helps to be logged into YouTube with the purchasing account through the browser as well. Also u have to set the quality lower if u didn't purchase the HD version. Works fine on my rooted 3.1 xoom. I have the hulu 10.3 and I believe the root 3.1 included the ua-string. I get errors trying to watch it through the native video app and I can't figure out how to open it in the native YouTube app, but full screen works fine through the browser streaming.
Same applies to watching it through browser on any computer too, we should get more then a day to watch it through...
Just purchase mega viewer pro... problem solved lol
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Web market works for movie rentals through the native browser, helps to be logged into YouTube with the purchasing account through the browser as well. Also u have to set the quality lower if u didn't purchase the HD version. Works fine on my rooted 3.1 xoom. I have the hulu 10.3 and I believe the root 3.1 included the ua-string. I get errors trying to watch it through the native video app and I can't figure out how to open it in the native YouTube app, but full screen works fine through the browser streaming.
Same applies to watching it through browser on any computer too, we should get more then a day to watch it through...
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Does it allowed to be downloaded/pinned? I'd like to find a solution for watching offline as I travel often.
All this is going to do is make people want to pirate movies. If it isn't easy to just purchase the movie than people are just going to go through other routes to get it on their device.
They are targeting root users, root users are the ones that know how to get stuff on the device without having to go through the market. In my opinion they will for sure lose more money by doing this.