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SMS delete problem - WAIT! dont flame!

Ok so before I get flamed, I have spent hours using the search feature looking for an answer. I apologize in advance if this topic has been covered, feel free to delete this thread but I'm desparate for an answer.
As the title states, I can't delete my sms messages. I send about 400 a day not including messages received. I'm stuck at about 8k messages and I'm on my 4th hard reset since I got the phone 2 days before it came out.
As I'm sure you guys are aware, the phone won't delete more than few hundred at a time. When I have this many messages in my inbox the phone behaves ridiculously slow to the point where its unusable.
I did find one solution involving the command prompt and several adb commands, but it didn't work for me.
If anyone has a solution It would be greatly appretiated.
Again, I apologize in advance if this has already been covered.

I know if you are using Handcent SMS, it takes awhile to delete a lot of SMS. I had about 400 in a threaded conversation with my GF, and when Handcent started to lag because I had so many, I had to delete them. It took probably about 1-2 mins to delete the whole thread. So just press delete and wait like an hour or so haha.

yea i had about 2k messages and my phone wouldnt delete em, what i did was wipe, felt like my only choice, just start deleting all those messages after it gets to 500 (unless u really need all 8k of those messages). the messages do get stored in your phone so eventually it will lag the hell out of your phone. you can also use fresh pre kitchen, it has a tool i saw for deleting text messages and backing them up, i cant say it works or not because i never used it. worth taking a chance tho

if your rooted use fresh kitchen to backup and delete all your text's

Not using handcent, and I really would like to avoid having to delete my messages everyday. An auto delete program/feature might be the best option for me if either exists.
This saddens me because my old touch with wm6 would hold 30k messages just fine
702DROID said:
if your rooted use fresh kitchen to backup and delete all your text's
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I am, I'll give that a try.
Thanks for the quick responses guys!

702DROID said:
if your rooted use fresh kitchen to backup and delete all your text's
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+1 It works great and its way faster than doing it manually
Fresh Pre-Kitchen 0.2

In addition to the pre-kitchen option, I hear that Android 2.1 has an option for deleting them after a set amount of time?

ultivegito2 said:
In addition to the pre-kitchen option, I hear that Android 2.1 has an option for deleting them after a set amount of time?
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or even better, to back them up to the SD card before deleting them (just in case)...that'd be sweet

Recover SMS

Hey guys. I know this has nothing to do with the phone in general, but since everyone on this site seems to know more about these phones than the manufacturer, I figured I would ask. Is there any way to retreive deleted text messages off of 2.2 OTA update. I really need to get a hold of this information. Thanks in advance

Sms backup and restore. On the market. Stores them in a csv, so you can read them on your pc if ya want

+1 SMS Backup and Restore. Its a free App that is Fantastic and I've been using it for a long time.

if the messages are already deleted, can you retreive them with this app

xxjekelxx said:
if the messages are already deleted, can you retreive them with this app
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No you cannot, I don't think their is a way to do this.

All SMSes disappeared with no warning...

I had the phone for a week now, did couple of factory resets (when playing around with stuff), and yesterday morning I permrooted and HBOOTed the phone...
The phone overall works great, really no complaints, but 10 minutes ago I receive an SMS and open up Messages, and the only SMS I have the in whole app is the one that I have received...so all my SMSes (5834 to be precise) have vanished into thin air...
I am doing another restore right now, thank god I have it on the card...
It's pretty worrying that the phone would be so unrealiable to erase information...
There are two more guys with DHDs on AndroidForum with the same issue:
http://androidforums.com/desire-hd-support-troubleshooting/214946-sms-have-all-disappeared.html
Has any1 else had that happen?

happened a few times to me too, but cannot trace it down to a specific reason...
this IS annoying and forces me to backup my sms on a daily basis!

Wow, that definitely blows...and you have stock DHD, so rooting/HBOOT mods are definitely not the reason...
If it will be a regular occurence I might as well throw the phone in the trash, coz to backup 5000+ SMSes on daily basis, no thank you...
iPhone had no issues with all those SMSes for years, it can't be the sheer number of them...

Nope not to do with size as it happend to me and i only had 300-400 texts altogether before it happened. Btw when it happened to you did ur messages app FC then u have to restart only to find no texts?

Whoa this worries me, how should I go about backing up my messages? I'm all synced with HTC Sense, won't that keep em backed up?

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Btw when it happened to you did ur messages app FC then u have to restart only to find no texts?
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Elaborate on the question a little bit for me, I didn't quite understand you!
I received a SMS, and I just wanted to send a text back, pressed Messages only to find it's completely blank.
Restarted the phone and nothing still blank.
I also had an issue with it today that it didn't store calls I made in Call History, after I restarted it, it started working again though.
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Whoa this worries me, how should I go about backing up my messages? I'm all synced with HTC Sense, won't that keep em backed up?
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SMS Backup & Restore by Ritesh Sahu...it's avalabile on the market...HTC Sense can only back them up, but not restore them back to the phone (not that I know a way to anyway)...
http://android.riteshsahu.com/apps/sms-backup-restore
This presents a real problem for me, as it makes it a useless phone...I need a phone for calling and SMSes primarily...everything else comes second...

This happened to my Desire Z today, at around the same time as the OP.

braby said:
Elaborate on the question a little bit for me, I didn't quite understand you!
I received a SMS, and I just wanted to send a text back, pressed Messages only to find it's completely blank.
Restarted the phone and nothing still blank.
I also had an issue with it today that it didn't store calls I made in Call History, after I restarted it, it started working again though.
SMS Backup & Restore by Ritesh Sahu...it's avalabile on the market...HTC Sense can only back them up, but not restore them back to the phone (not that I know a way to anyway)...
http://android.riteshsahu.com/apps/sms-backup-restore
This presents a real problem for me, as it makes it a useless phone...I need a phone for calling and SMSes primarily...everything else comes second...
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There is an app in the market that you can use to backup and restore messages to and from ur gmail acc. this app also has an setting to backup an sms right away when it receives one. dont know the exact name (phone battery empty) but i found it when i was searching for backup sms in the market.
Hope this helps you.

Sorry for my vague description, here it is again in more detail
I received a text message from a friend and i received a notification in my noti-bar
I pulled the bar down and click the message, it then tried to open the messages apk
it force closed saying htc.messages.apk or something hast FC'ed...
I thought lets just restart and it will all be happy days again
I restarted and open the text fine, but when i pressed back to go into my inbox i noticed there were no other text message!
And that's exactly how it happened

bratfink said:
Sorry for my vague description, here it is again in more detail
I received a text message from a friend and i received a notification in my noti-bar
I pulled the bar down and click the message, it then tried to open the messages apk
it force closed saying htc.messages.apk or something hast FC'ed...
I thought lets just restart and it will all be happy days again
I restarted and open the text fine, but when i pressed back to go into my inbox i noticed there were no other text message!
And that's exactly how it happened
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Ah ok, now I got it!
As far as I can recollect there was no app crash on mine, just pulled up empty file.
I thought maybe when I restart the phone things will get back to normal (like they did with call history), but it didn't...Messages were still blank.
Jairus said:
This happened to my Desire Z today, at around the same time as the OP.
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Hmmm...this almost makes me wonder if this is somehow not related to HTCSense.com...
It's just weird that it happened to both of us at about the same time...
If it happens again I'll disable syncing with HTCSense (it's more or less useless anyway, I have local file backups of both), and see if it happens after that...

My HTCSense message log is completely empty, too. I don't think it ever worked.

I had this happen a few weeks back. I opened a new text message and the messages widget crashed. All my messages seem to have been deleted. I was quite concerned as my messages contain important information (I did got to the trouble of migrating them from my old phone)...an email from HTC to see if the emails were deleted (or just not visible as some have reported on other forums) and if there was a way to get them back elicited this response:
Thanks for contacting HTC.
We appreciate your support for our products.
We sincerely apologize for the inconvenience. Thank you for bringing your concern to our attention. With regard to your question, unfortunately, once messages are deleted from the SMS widget, you can no longer retrieve it, unless you have a back up from your SD card or to your SIM card.
Should you encounter any difficulties or have any concerns we have provided, please feel free to contact us again.
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Needless to say this jumble of standard form responses did not answer my question. A further question about how I could possibly avoid this situation in the future; their response...
We appreciate your support for our products.
Thanks for the update. With regards to your concern, please be advised that this is a rare issue that happened to your phone. We will forward this concern to our technical support team for future developments. We advise you to perform a soft reset on your phone. To perform a soft reset, remove the battery, wait for a few seconds, and then re-install it. After re-installing the battery, turn on the phone.
Should you encounter any difficulties or have any concerns we have provided, please feel free to contact us again.
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Rather than bash my head further against a brick wall, I downloaded an app to forward my SMS messages to my gmail as a safe guard and copied what messages I could from the only part of HTC sense that was partially working for me.

I had the same with my HTC Desire Z
I received a SMS, and when I opened it, all my messages were gone, except for the received message.
I read in the official android bug-forum, that this might be a issue with sqlite, but it has not yet been fixed in android 2.2. luckily I just migrated everything so most of my sms are in a backup.
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=5669

I have had the same issue a few times with the Desire HD ROM running on my HTC HD2...this is ridiculous.

Guys, I experienced these as well. I realised that when this happens, my messages are actually in HTCSense.com... The weird thing is, before having my DHD I was using HD2 with DHD rom... Then when I got my phone 2 days ago, those sms' which were not supposed to be in this phone reappeared... All the histories I had in my HD2 were in... I suppose this is an act of HTCSense.com...

me too!
This happened to me a few days ago..
I went to reply to a text message that I'd forgotten about and my list was blank!
I went to create a new text and it popped up saying the messages app had crashed.. I killed the process and no luck - crashed again.
Restarted the phone and the messages were still gone..
In terms of non-stock apps/configuration that may be worth mentioning I have:
Android Task Killer
Superuser/VISIONary
Titanium Backup
The only other thing I have done is enabled usb diagnostics (recommended in another thread to stop the occasional lag).
Anyone got any ideas?

Now it happend to me, too!
Performed a hard reset on tuesday and everything went finse since than. SMS were automaticly backed up from HTCSense. But 10 Minutes ago all my text massages were gone... They are still on my HTCSense account - but how to restore???
Thats a mess...

Tough luck guys!
I guess I won't be logging in to HTC Sense anytime soon

Tried to restore my SMS with my SMS BackUp programm. Got the notification "Successfully restored 119 items (2663 dups)."
But on my DHD are only the 119 sms...
Seems that there are still some left-overs the massage widget cannot read.
Ideas anyone?

Nobody an idea? or the same problem?

[Q] Help - Lost all my SMS messages!

I know there are other Android devices where this happens, but I haven't heard of it yet on an Epic.
Basically, I've kept all my SMS messages for the last couple years. This morning I sent a text, no problem, still had all my messages. I received a reply driving to work and when I checked about 10 minutes later all my messages (including all threads) were gone except for the reply!
I do not have any autodelete enabled. I use Handcent. Handcent did dump a 0kb stack file on my SDcard root folder at the time it happened.
I already checked /data/data/com.android.providers.telephony only to find my mmssms.db is shrunken from 1.6MB to 35kb. There is also a mmssms.db.bak and mmssms.db.mark which are 0kb and not typically in there.
Any ideas on where my missing DB file could be? I feel it is erased, but do not know of any recovery method. I already searched the SD card using Recuva with no DB files. Where else can I look? Any way to mount the internal storage to attempt a recovery?
Thanks

oktanedroid said:
I know there are other Android devices where this happens, but I haven't heard of it yet on an Epic.
Basically, I've kept all my SMS messages for the last couple years. This morning I sent a text, no problem, still had all my messages. I received a reply driving to work and when I checked about 10 minutes later all my messages (including all threads) were gone except for the reply!
I do not have any autodelete enabled. I use Handcent. Handcent did dump a 0kb stack file on my SDcard root folder at the time it happened.
I already checked /data/data/com.android.providers.telephony only to find my mmssms.db is shrunken from 1.6MB to 35kb. There is also a mmssms.db.bak and mmssms.db.mark which are 0kb and not typically in there.
Any ideas on where my missing DB file could be? I feel it is erased, but do not know of any recovery method. I already searched the SD card using Recuva with no DB files. Where else can I look? Any way to mount the internal storage to attempt a recovery?
Thanks
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Unfortunately I can't give a suggestion as to what happened but I can make a suggestion to keep it from happening in the future. Get the app called SMS Backup. This app backs you sms messages to your gmail account (with a separate label so it doesn't clutter your inbox). If this happens to you again in the future then at least you will have the data backed up.

oktanedroid said:
Basically, I've kept all my SMS messages for the last couple years.
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Probably going to come off wrong, but WHY?!?!?!

Orbiting234 said:
Probably going to come off wrong, but WHY?!?!?!
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@goddimus: Thanks for the suggestion about SMS Backup to Gmail. I did have that installed at one point (2009) but was concerned about battery life so decided to uninstall it. I do have an old backup from 3 months ago on my computer.
@orbiting234: I keep them for the same reason I keep all my emails. You never know when you need to refer to it, plus once in a while it's fun to look at to remember the events of your life.

Any way to extract a bit-accurate image of the data partition to run through a recovery program in Windows?

Yes, just went thru similar issue. Ill update this post when back home, but search this forum for 'extract nandroid' .. ill also post the db where sms are located.
Sent from the future.

decalex said:
Yes, just went thru similar issue. Ill update this post when back home, but search this forum for 'extract nandroid' .. ill also post the db where sms are located.
Sent from the future.
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I don't have a recent Nandroid backup though. What do you mean exactly?
Thanks

HELP! Can't receive SMS

Hi guys, i have this huge problem, i can't receive SMS. If i send them to myself there's no problem, but i can't receive them from another one
I've already tried changing phone and the sim works, so guess that's a problem with my SGS2. I've already tried changing modem too
Any advice?

Razer(x) said:
Hi guys, i have this huge problem, i can't receive SMS. If i send them to myself there's no problem, but i can't receive them from another one
I've already tried changing phone and the sim works, so guess that's a problem with my SGS2. I've already tried changing modem too
Any advice?
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Is there any app that might be interfering? You might try solving it by doing a backup of your data and a factory reset. As a last resort, you could try to flash a different firmware to see if the problem persist. Nevertheless, it is possible that there is a simple solution.

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Is there any app that might be interfering? You might try solving it by doing a backup of your data and a factory reset. As a last resort, you could try to flash a different firmware to see if the problem persist. Nevertheless, it is possible that there is a simple solution.
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Actually i don't know, which app could interfer?
I'll try to do a CWM backup and restore it, but i guess that way it should be the same

What carrier are you using?

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What carrier are you using?
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3, from Italy, but it's not a carrier problem, sms receiving worked with a different phone

I had the same problem with mine a few weeks ago. Go to messaging>>press menu>settings>does your message centre have the correct #. I had to contact my carrier for mine.

ronj1986 said:
I had the same problem with mine a few weeks ago. Go to messaging>>press menu>settings>does your message centre have the correct #. I had to contact my carrier for mine.
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I've deleted the stock SMS App with titanium, i'm using Go SMS Pro and i can see no settings like that

Sorry, I cant help u any further:-(

Razer(x) said:
Actually i don't know, which app could interfer?
I'll try to do a CWM backup and restore it, but i guess that way it should be the same
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There are some apps which are intended to block sms spam or to send sms to groups, etc. An Anti-virus or something alike possibly could interfere, depending on how it works.
CWM will probably leave everything exactly as it is now. It is useful if you do a backup with the phone working properly, but in this case it wouldn't be helpful.

Razer(x) said:
I've deleted the stock SMS App with titanium, i'm using Go SMS Pro and i can see no settings like that
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well then go to the go sms pro options and see if the number is right...
why would someone would want to change the stock app is beyond me...
threaded view simple interface and fast.

Fixed installing the stock sms app, thx guys
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