I know there are other Android devices where this happens, but I haven't heard of it yet on an Epic.
Basically, I've kept all my SMS messages for the last couple years. This morning I sent a text, no problem, still had all my messages. I received a reply driving to work and when I checked about 10 minutes later all my messages (including all threads) were gone except for the reply!
I do not have any autodelete enabled. I use Handcent. Handcent did dump a 0kb stack file on my SDcard root folder at the time it happened.
I already checked /data/data/com.android.providers.telephony only to find my mmssms.db is shrunken from 1.6MB to 35kb. There is also a mmssms.db.bak and mmssms.db.mark which are 0kb and not typically in there.
Any ideas on where my missing DB file could be? I feel it is erased, but do not know of any recovery method. I already searched the SD card using Recuva with no DB files. Where else can I look? Any way to mount the internal storage to attempt a recovery?
Thanks
oktanedroid said:
I know there are other Android devices where this happens, but I haven't heard of it yet on an Epic.
Basically, I've kept all my SMS messages for the last couple years. This morning I sent a text, no problem, still had all my messages. I received a reply driving to work and when I checked about 10 minutes later all my messages (including all threads) were gone except for the reply!
I do not have any autodelete enabled. I use Handcent. Handcent did dump a 0kb stack file on my SDcard root folder at the time it happened.
I already checked /data/data/com.android.providers.telephony only to find my mmssms.db is shrunken from 1.6MB to 35kb. There is also a mmssms.db.bak and mmssms.db.mark which are 0kb and not typically in there.
Any ideas on where my missing DB file could be? I feel it is erased, but do not know of any recovery method. I already searched the SD card using Recuva with no DB files. Where else can I look? Any way to mount the internal storage to attempt a recovery?
Thanks
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Unfortunately I can't give a suggestion as to what happened but I can make a suggestion to keep it from happening in the future. Get the app called SMS Backup. This app backs you sms messages to your gmail account (with a separate label so it doesn't clutter your inbox). If this happens to you again in the future then at least you will have the data backed up.
oktanedroid said:
Basically, I've kept all my SMS messages for the last couple years.
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Probably going to come off wrong, but WHY?!?!?!
Orbiting234 said:
Probably going to come off wrong, but WHY?!?!?!
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@goddimus: Thanks for the suggestion about SMS Backup to Gmail. I did have that installed at one point (2009) but was concerned about battery life so decided to uninstall it. I do have an old backup from 3 months ago on my computer.
@orbiting234: I keep them for the same reason I keep all my emails. You never know when you need to refer to it, plus once in a while it's fun to look at to remember the events of your life.
Any way to extract a bit-accurate image of the data partition to run through a recovery program in Windows?
Yes, just went thru similar issue. Ill update this post when back home, but search this forum for 'extract nandroid' .. ill also post the db where sms are located.
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decalex said:
Yes, just went thru similar issue. Ill update this post when back home, but search this forum for 'extract nandroid' .. ill also post the db where sms are located.
Sent from the future.
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I don't have a recent Nandroid backup though. What do you mean exactly?
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Anyone know how to do this?If so Thanks
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Anyone know how to do this?If so Thanks
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Not sure how to do that, but I do know you can use PIM Backup and backup your texts to your sdcard if that helps at all.
will PIM backup do it automatically or do you have to select each text individually?
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will PIM backup do it automatically or do you have to select each text individually?
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You can schedule pim to do this for you at a set time of day
well i like that program, i'm using it for my contacts. but it backs things up in .bin so you can't go look at your texts, you have to restore them. has anyone found anything to let you save your texts to the SD card where you can read the texts?
wyldstallyns2589 said:
well i like that program, i'm using it for my contacts. but it backs things up in .bin so you can't go look at your texts, you have to restore them. has anyone found anything to let you save your texts to the SD card where you can read the texts?
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What is it you are trying to accomplish?
well i'm not the original poster, but i think i know what he wants (and wouldn't mind it myself). a way to change the save directory to your SD card so you basically NEVER have to delete a text and it won't result in a loss in built in storage memory.
Not to be a ****, but why would you wanna keep your text messages any way? I'm sure there CAN be an important one or two sometimes, but really how often do you wanna keep those messages? lol.
well i know that i need to delete mine about every night really, to avoid massive pileups. but then a day or two later i wish i had one of those texts, not thinking to save it before hand.
i guess it is a good thing no one knows this or i'd have like 1243124512412431234 saved.
Ok so before I get flamed, I have spent hours using the search feature looking for an answer. I apologize in advance if this topic has been covered, feel free to delete this thread but I'm desparate for an answer.
As the title states, I can't delete my sms messages. I send about 400 a day not including messages received. I'm stuck at about 8k messages and I'm on my 4th hard reset since I got the phone 2 days before it came out.
As I'm sure you guys are aware, the phone won't delete more than few hundred at a time. When I have this many messages in my inbox the phone behaves ridiculously slow to the point where its unusable.
I did find one solution involving the command prompt and several adb commands, but it didn't work for me.
If anyone has a solution It would be greatly appretiated.
Again, I apologize in advance if this has already been covered.
I know if you are using Handcent SMS, it takes awhile to delete a lot of SMS. I had about 400 in a threaded conversation with my GF, and when Handcent started to lag because I had so many, I had to delete them. It took probably about 1-2 mins to delete the whole thread. So just press delete and wait like an hour or so haha.
yea i had about 2k messages and my phone wouldnt delete em, what i did was wipe, felt like my only choice, just start deleting all those messages after it gets to 500 (unless u really need all 8k of those messages). the messages do get stored in your phone so eventually it will lag the hell out of your phone. you can also use fresh pre kitchen, it has a tool i saw for deleting text messages and backing them up, i cant say it works or not because i never used it. worth taking a chance tho
if your rooted use fresh kitchen to backup and delete all your text's
Not using handcent, and I really would like to avoid having to delete my messages everyday. An auto delete program/feature might be the best option for me if either exists.
This saddens me because my old touch with wm6 would hold 30k messages just fine
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if your rooted use fresh kitchen to backup and delete all your text's
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I am, I'll give that a try.
Thanks for the quick responses guys!
702DROID said:
if your rooted use fresh kitchen to backup and delete all your text's
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+1 It works great and its way faster than doing it manually
Fresh Pre-Kitchen 0.2
In addition to the pre-kitchen option, I hear that Android 2.1 has an option for deleting them after a set amount of time?
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In addition to the pre-kitchen option, I hear that Android 2.1 has an option for deleting them after a set amount of time?
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or even better, to back them up to the SD card before deleting them (just in case)...that'd be sweet
All of my text messages are very very important and personal to me. I carefully saved every single of them into my email and computer so I won't lost a "single" of them. That is the reason why I went for android platform because there is an application (My Backup Pro) that helps me to back up all the important texts I have with my family and my wife. The disaster struck when i upgraded my android phone to the Nexus One from the G1. The new message app in the nexus one has a "Delete old messages" option on the default which I completely acknowledged nothing about it thus I did not disable that option, so it started to delete all my messages when they reached to the certain amount number of text messages. When i noticed i was in a big shocked stage, I am extremely unhappy. I called Tmobile to see if they can send me a copy of all the contents of the texts that were deleted, they offered no help for that sort of request neither Nexus One Customer Support Department can do anything about it. To my knowledge, when a data is being "deleted", it's not really gone forever instead it is being compressed to a smaller value for saving space purpose or it's lying somewhere inside the flash memory and waiting for the new data to overwrite it. I did spend weeks of research and calling for help but I could not find any help. If any developer or anyone could help me to recover the deleted text messages in my Nexus One, I would be really happy and greatly appreciate your help. I will pay you a big reward, the reward is your choice. Anything you want. Thank you very very much for your help. My phone is not rooted yet and I haven't done the hard reset. So I guess the data is still in the flash memory, we just need to get them out.
So you went for android platform because of My Backup Pro but you didn't make any backup with it before upgrading to the N1?
Anyway.. I don't think deleted SMS messages will be recoverable... sorry
I've never seen anyone even want to accomplish this goal.. or cared about their texts in such way..
I dont know for sure, but I would assume this is something you wont be able to do.. hope you find a way I guess.
unfortunately the messages do not get saved on the sd card but rather on the phone. There does exist software that recovers lost data from Hard drives, sd cards, etc. But the messages were deleted from the phone itself and its hard to say this but you wont be able to recover it! just remember to always backup for next time and make sure you get rid of the "delete all messages" and dont forget that after a large number of text, they seem to all get deleted at once even if you dont have that option selected. it has happened to me after about 4000 texts! and not once but three times already. thats why i always backup and if i ever lose any text it will be under 100's. and also remeber to backup the backups of Backup Pro, LOL! Sd cards die as well, so you never know! so try saving a copy to your pc and by the way if your text are that imprtant then remeber that hard drives from PC'S die as well and you never know either, so backup as well and Remeber lol that you can burn it onto a cd every once in a while!
Good Luck
Yeah I hate to say you are s.o.l. with the old messages. all you can do is look how to prevent this in the future. 1. use Google voice or 2. download the sms2email app
I delete my text messages on a daily basis. I just have no use for them after I read them once. This seems important to you, so I do hope you find a way of recovering them. Good luck!
wow what kind of messages have you received that you want them back so bad?
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wow what kind of messages have you received that you want them back so bad?
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Naughty ones.
If you have the data backed up with mybackup pro, u can inspect the files in: /sdcard/rerware/MyBackup/
Followed by whatever name u gave em. you can restore it from there too. i think they're stored in sqlite3 but, i tried restoring some data i had backed up to sqlite3 and it couldn't re-create the db cuz it was kinda encrypted.
hope that helps. maybe u could try emailing the dev of MyBackup Pro?
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If you backup your msgs into email, why did you not use "SMS Backup" (by Christopher Studer) instead or a similar tool which does real-time backup? It adds your message proactively into gmail under a certain label. That is time saved for you.
Also, as others have pointed out, you can not recover your messages, unless you had an auto-backup of that saved to your SD card. In that case, even if your SD card was wiped or formatted, you could essentially perform a recovery using a disk recovery application.
Thank you very much for all the comments. I guess there is no help. I will try to call Tmobile again to see if they can send me contents of the the text messages.
phuthanvinh said:
Thank you very much for all the comments. I guess there is no help. I will try to call Tmobile again to see if they can send me contents of the the text messages.
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T-Mobile cannot send you the contents of the text messages, they do not open up and read your texts, nor do they save that burst of data, that would be an insane amount of data to save, as well probably an illegal invasion of privacy.
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Thank you very much for all the comments. I guess there is no help. I will try to call Tmobile again to see if they can send me contents of the the text messages.
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Yeah, Tmobile is of no help! They cannot look at your text messages as they will be violating your rights! neither would they backup something that they have no use for!
You should really look into Google Voice or something similar in the future. That way all of your text messages are available online at all times - like email. Very, very useful.
I have been saved so many times by that service.
texts are saved i think for a certain amount of time on servers. Look at the Kwame Kilpatrick case in Detroit for example. In order to get them though you would need a search warrant to gain access to those files.
Tmobile say they would but only if the police or law enforcement involve in order for them to pull out the contents, in this case i dont know what to do. The only way get the contents back is to access to my wife iphone but the problem is her iphone also has the auto delete old sms. I did lots of researches on recovering the deleted sms on iphone and there are a few methods but im not certain because im not a tech savvy. So i have her iphone in hand and it has not been synced for months. Is there a possiblility to recover the conversations i had with her that are also had been deleted in her iphone? The reason i want get those conversations back because they involve in our large business deals. Please help.
Hey, I have PM'd you some info to help you retrieve txt msgs of an
iphone...
hope it works...
I also archive every text message. To make sure that I won't lose them, I backup them on WaveSecure (free for Android until March 31!!) and SMS Backup & Restore app. Both of them can be found on the Market. WaveSecure is an anti-theft app that also backups SMS, call logs, and files on their servers. SMS Backup & Restore (and Call Logs Backups & Restore by the same developer) saves an XML file to your SD card. You can easily email the XML to yourself.
If you were using GOOGLE VOICE on your GOOGLE Android phone there would be no issue.
aad4321 said:
its ok, i lost my sextmessages one time too
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WHOA!!!
hahahhaa, i lost a few also while trying different ROMs, but we don't go admitting to them! hahahaa.
I sincerely hope that the original poster, phuthanvinh, can find a solution for this with T-Mobile.
It seems pretty lame that they would offer to fix this IF law enforcement was involved.
My Epic randomly deleted my entire inbox. I see this has happened to other (both Epic users and other Android users), but has anyone found a solution or a way to recover messages? My phone is not rooted and I didn't do anything differently than I normally do...
I am also interested in how to recover deleted text messages.
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Happened to me as well a while back and I never could find a clear solution or answer.
Seems to be a problem isolated to Android 2.1 and under regardless of the device. Best explanation I read was that it was related to a specific DB file that reaches a size that the system can't handle so it thinks it's corrupt and deletes it and recreates a fresh copy.
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=5669
What I did after it happened to be was start using an app that backs up all of my SMS/MMS messages daily.
Coucher said:
Happened to me as well a while back and I never could find a clear solution or answer.
Seems to be a problem isolated to Android 2.1 and under regardless of the device. Best explanation I read was that it was related to a specific DB file that reaches a size that the system can't handle so it thinks it's corrupt and deletes it and recreates a fresh copy.
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=5669
What I did after it happened to be was start using an app that backs up all of my SMS/MMS messages daily.
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What if I were to inadvertently delete one (or more).. ?? how would I go about recovering them ?
I've searched for quite a while and was unable to find this particular issue mentioned anywhere else.
When my wife tries to send an MMS from her DX it gives her the error message "Can't send message right now. Too many unsent multimedia messages." She has googled the issue and tried the couple fixes that she was able to find, but to no avail. Deleting the threads, deleting the contact and re-entering, etc. Still gets the same message, regardless of who she is trying to send to.
She is unrooted, using GoSMS for messaging.
Thanks in advance for any help/advice!
This is obvious, but just to make sure... Does she have data on?
GoSMS WILL NOT send mms over wifi, so make sure she is on mobile data.
I would go through her convo's and see if there are any mms that she doesnt care about and delete them. Also try sending an mms with the native sms app to see if that will work to see if its a system or gosms problem.
Thanks for the responses!
Mobile data is on.
She doesn't get the message popping up when using the stock messaging, but the message still doesn't send.
I'll go through and delete any MMS I can find and see if that changes anything.
Not sure if this is related, but just over the past few days she's noticed that a few pictures have appeared to become corrupted. The thumbnails appear fine, but when she views the pictures they show a small bar of the image at the top and the rest is a scramble of red/gray. When viewing with the phone plugged into a computer it is just gray with the bar of image at the top.
Still trying to figure that one out, too.
Kind of wondering if rooting her phone and flashing a ROM might help things... I know my DInc runs much smoother for it.
Thanks again!
If your not rooted I would sbf and that should fix your issue.
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I think sbfing at this point would be like trying to kill a fly with a bazooka. There are other thing we can try before deleting everything and starting from scratch.
It sounds to me like there is a corruption somewhere in the folder where these pictures are stored, which could be causing both problems.
Try moving a picture into another folder on the sd then send the picture and see if you get different results. You can also try inserting another sd card and try to send a picture from there.
I hope this helps!
Try Handcent, the stock messaging app sucks. I switched because of the same problems your wife is having.
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The reason Handcent will "solve" the problem is the program creates its own folders to stores files and pictures in. The problem will still exist if you use the stock messenger app.
Thanks for all the replies!
I wanted to get back sooner, just been busy.
Here is where I am so far:
My wife said she had gone through and deleted any unsent MMS in all threads, but that the problem persisted. This was a few weeks ago. A couple days ago I personally went through and did the same, and then I also deleted an MMS from one thread that had been successfully sent, just to see if it would do anything.
I then tried sending an MMS and it worked. And she's been successfully sending MMS over the past couple days. I'm not sure if it was necessary to delete a successfully sent message, though. My wife might have missed an unsent one somewhere, but she's generally pretty savvy when it comes to things like that, so who really knows?
In any case, the not being able to send messages problem is solved. Thanks for all the help!
However, I am still trying to figure out what happened to the few photos that became corrupted. She has over 700 photos in total on her SD card (from several years) and she only noticed the corruption problem about a week ago or so. As far as she can tell (hasn't looked at every single photo yet) it is only three photos. The thumbnails are fine and when you initially click to view them they appear fine for a split second before distorting. I'm stumped. Any ideas on this one?
And once again, all of your help/advice is greatly appreciated!
Take the photos that are corrupted and put them on a computer to see if the files are actually corrupted or if the phone is reading them weirdly.
If the comp reads the pictures ok, just try renaming or moving the pictures. Sometimes a re-save of the file will fix an issue like that. If the comp doesn't read the files, they are def corrupted.
I tried viewing the pics after moving them to my comp, but still corrupted. Thankfully it was only three pics and no further ones appear to have become corrupted.
On the plus side the messaging problem appears to be completely solved.
Thanks to everyone for the help/advice!
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