Hello all,
Recently started encountering a strange problem four days ago with Palringo on my HTC HD2, UK T-Mobile.
I am having strouble staying connected to Palringo via G/3G/HSDPA on this handset despite having a rock solid connection beforehand. When connected up to my PC or a works PC (where it uses the PC's internet connection) I am faced with this same disconnecting issue.
I tried various troubleshooting ideas before resetting my phone to factory defaults, installing only Palringo and connecting up that way but to no avail. The connection to Palringo was still dropping despite my phones internet connection being totally stable.
YouTube, websurfing and other online activities do not seem to be affected, only Palringo.
I cannot detect any sort of pattern to the disconnects as they seem to appear frequently, whether I have the handset active constantly, lock the screen or keep Palringo's window at the front. It seems to be more prevailant when I lock the screen and come back 10-20 seconds later but this is not always the case.
Palringo servers seem to be okay too or at least reporting no faults on their forum. Am I looking at an awkward and complex problem?
At my wits end right now with it. Not sure where to turn to next for a solution.
HTC HD2
T-Mobile UK
ROM: 1.48 Unbranded
My phone has currently just been hard reset and has Palringo installed. No other programs, tweaks or fixes have been installed.
Palringo 2.3.0 svn-33287 (Premium User)
Any info available on request
yes, the reconnect pending issue, i remember...
i don't know which if not all the following solved the problem for me:
- i use palringo beta
- i use radio 2.10 but i also remember it working with some other versions as well
- i use artemis roms
oh, your rom is so old... u sould at least try to upgrade to stock 1.66
antaed said:
yes, the reconnect pending issue, i remember...
i don't know which if not all the following solved the problem for me:
- i use palringo beta
- i use radio 2.10 but i also remember it working with some other versions as well
- i use artemis roms
oh, your rom is so old... u sould at least try to upgrade to stock 1.66
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I do not have a 'reconnect pending' issue. Palringo connects, logs me in and then disconnects... it then reconnects without any problems and the cycle repeats endlessly.
Elcs said:
I do not have a 'reconnect pending' issue. Palringo connects, logs me in and then disconnects... it then reconnects without any problems and the cycle repeats endlessly.
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oh sorry, can't help then..
the reconnect pending is a very common issue i also had
antaed said:
oh sorry, can't help then..
the reconnect pending is a very common issue i also had
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You inadvertently might have helped.
I flashed the 1.66 official non-branded ROM and Palringo seems to be okay. Will have to wait until tomorrow to give it it's proper test but preliminary results seem positive.
Elcs said:
You inadvertently might have helped.
I flashed the 1.66 official non-branded ROM and Palringo seems to be okay. Will have to wait until tomorrow to give it it's proper test but preliminary results seem positive.
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i had msn problems with live and someone from xda directed me to Palringo:
So far i had no issues with it and once i log on it remains logged. i use unbranded rom 1.66 as well
Hydrad said:
i had msn problems with live and someone from xda directed me to Palringo:
So far i had no issues with it and once i log on it remains logged. i use unbranded rom 1.66 as well
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I had no issues for months (as mentioned in my first post) then suddenly it gave me hassle.
Flashed up to an unbranded 1.66 ROM and the problem seems to be solved. No idea why the issue started.
Tested it this morning whilst travelling to and from an appointment, flashing the ROM to 1.66 has not helped.
Does anyone else have any suggestions?
a new radio perhaps...
you must have 2.07.51.22_2 now but you could also try 2.09.51.03 or 2.10.50.19_2
antaed said:
a new radio perhaps...
you must have 2.07.51.22_2 now but you could also try 2.09.51.03 or 2.10.50.19_2
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2.06.51.07
Not a big fan of having to change the radio though. Any other reason why I would have such problems with just 1 single program?
Bump - This issue is giving me a headache.
sorry I can't help you, because I have a similar problem. Palringo stays connected even thought reconnects all the time. When leaving a conversation open and not writing for an hour, it's full of status update (disconnected -> logged in).
But the thing that really really annoys me is how much it drains my battery. Having Palringo running (power saving mode is a joke, it changes nothing!) drains my battery 100% faster. While my phone lasts 2 days, with palringo it lasts a day. That's the main reason I'm not letting palringo run all the time anymore.
d3l1 said:
sorry I can't help you, because I have a similar problem. Palringo stays connected even thought reconnects all the time. When leaving a conversation open and not writing for an hour, it's full of status update (disconnected -> logged in).
But the thing that really really annoys me is how much it drains my battery. Having Palringo running (power saving mode is a joke, it changes nothing!) drains my battery 100% faster. While my phone lasts 2 days, with palringo it lasts a day. That's the main reason I'm not letting palringo run all the time anymore.
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Strange issue isn't it? Palringo forums are like pulling teeth and I can't go back to Beejive.
Re: your battery drain, I don't have it really. I play music for ~2 hours per day and have Palringo on + connected (when it connected and stayed connected) for ~8-10 hours and still end up with battery. That includes use of Palringo throughout the day though heavy use would drain the battery much quicker.
d3l1 said:
sorry I can't help you, because I have a similar problem. Palringo stays connected even thought reconnects all the time. When leaving a conversation open and not writing for an hour, it's full of status update (disconnected -> logged in).
But the thing that really really annoys me is how much it drains my battery. Having Palringo running (power saving mode is a joke, it changes nothing!) drains my battery 100% faster. While my phone lasts 2 days, with palringo it lasts a day. That's the main reason I'm not letting palringo run all the time anymore.
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I found someone on the Palringo website with the sameissue.
To resolve it, it seems they just created a new Palringo account and it worked fine after that. As a Premium User, I am very hesitant to do such a thing but it might work for you!
Related
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freemanquna said:
do any one know which radio is stable and consume less energy?
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I'll leave it to others to give advice on which radio to use. It might be worth installing danielherrero's (one of our own developers) bandswitch application http://www.commmgrpro.com/ You could use this to limit phone to certain bands only with an easy interface. Would allow you to check out exactly what is causing the drain on battery.
Mike
thanks for helps
Sorry, got me stumped. So with no radios on the consumption is double that when wifi is on!!
Let's see if anyone else has any suggestions.
Mike
infinite loop perhaps??
What ROM/Radio versions are you running? EDIT:: seen the ROMs, perhaps try updating to a newer dopod ROM??
Also what 3rd party apps have you got installed??
(RESCO was a ***** for doing this to my TyTN)
the exact same thing happens to me. i've charged it completely, it obviously got really hot. usually at this point, i would take out the battery and let it cool off before turning the phone on, otherwise it would get even hotter and eat 300+ mA and drain the battery fast. this time i opened the wi-fi connection and immediately the battery status dropped from 332 mA to 130, and stayed down there. the phone even cooled down a bit. after i've turned off the wi-fi, it started draining and heating again. what can i do? is it a software or hardware problem? i'm using schaps 4.31, 1.47.30.10, have google maps, palringo, opera, tcpmp installed
I have the same behavior, too.
But not yesterday evening. After restarted it for the xxx time it staid at 28mA. This was so until I left the train in the morning. It went up to 347mA and I am not able to get it back to 28.
I am using the default HTC ROM "HTC_TyTN_GER_3.54.257.2_103_6275_1.47.00.10_108".
I also tried several other ROMS (Schaps, Pays ...) and different radio versions as "HERM_Radinly_1.16.00.00_CustomRUU", "HERM_Radinly_1.47.00.00_CustomRUU", "HERM_Radinly_1.47.00.10_CustomRUU", "HERM_Radinly_1.47.30.10_CustomRUU" and "HERM_Radinly_1.54.30.10_CustomRUU"
but none of them helped me out.
I also done the Exchange Server trick, deactivated 3G and even deactivated all GPRS or EDGE possibilities from provider side.
demichef
Phone gets hot
Hi,
I am not an expert but I had the same problem with my phone, I solved the problem by moving some software I had on my storage card to the internal memory, (in my case it was the encryption and additional language support software I had)
Another way is to look for the Power management tweak in this forum which helps to manage your storage cards power draining,
Sound strange but it worked for me.
Good luck
Hi,
the new battery has arrived.
There is no change in battery draining
What I recognized is, that if the battery is "cold" the power consumtion is around 28mA. But after a call it is getting warm and uses 10 time so much of power.
Please don't laugh now:
I put the battery inside my freezer for 5 minutes. Put it back inside the mobile ...
... 28mA.
If I keep it cold it stays fine for 3 days.
There must be any solution on that.
demichef
Hi all,
I got a problem about my x01ht. After I used my phone(talking more than 10mins), it is very hot and the battery is dumped very fast.
Please help and what can I do now!!!!!
Thank you very much!
my rom information:
OS ROM: 1.23.708.4
ROM ROM:1.40.30.00
Thanks again.
asachan said:
Hi all,
I got a problem about my x01ht. After I used my phone(talking more than 10mins), it is very hot and the battery is dumped very fast.
Please help and what can I do now!!!!!
Thank you very much!
my rom information:
OS ROM: 1.23.708.4
ROM ROM:1.40.30.00
Thanks again.
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It just depends how quickly the battery is draining. It will get hot on a call over 10 mins but your battery should last at least 10 hours. So is it draining faster than that?
Mike
mikechannon said:
It just depends how quickly the battery is draining. It will get hot on a call over 10 mins but your battery should last at least 10 hours. So is it draining faster than that?
Mike
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Hi Mike,
Thank you for replying me. In my case, the battery is draining within 30mins from 100% to 0%. Would you have any idea about the problem?
Thanks!!
asachan said:
Hi Mike,
Thank you for replying me. In my case, the battery is draining within 30mins from 100% to 0%. Would you have any idea about the problem?
Thanks!!
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Hi asachan
Well that is decidedly not normal. I have seen a few reports here on this problem. A search might show some results I have not tried so far. However, I would do the standard things initially:
1 Remove and reinsert the battery
2 Hard Reset.
If the problem persists and you have a warranty then use it.
If you have no warranty then a detailed search here on rapid battery drain or words to that effect might reveal something.
You may find some people suggesting flashing a new ROM, but check the basics first. In particular, it may be a battery problem so worth checking that.
Mike
the battery should not be drained so quick......
after 2~ hour HSDPA web browsing
then I 've made a few calls (about 15 mins in total)
Then I have a call for 1hr 05mins
I still have 30% remain
takaki said:
the battery should not be drained so quick......
after 2~ hour HSDPA web browsing
then I 've made a few calls (about 15 mins in total)
Then I have a call for 1hr 05mins
I still have 30% remain
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Hi Mike,
Thank you for your suggestions.
I tried your suggestion:
When the phone got hot, I removed the battery and then reinsert it(after the battery is cool down). Then the phone becomes fine.
But, the problem happened again and again when I had a call more more than 10mins.
If I don't have any call, the phone will not have this problem and the battery can use around 1 day even I used GPRS to access the Internet.
asachan said:
Hi Mike,
Thank you for your suggestions.
I tried your suggestion:
When the phone got hot, I removed the battery and then reinsert it(after the battery is cool down). Then the phone becomes fine.
But, the problem happened again and again when I had a call more more than 10mins.
If I don't have any call, the phone will not have this problem and the battery can use around 1 day even I used GPRS to access the Internet.
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Hi
If you do a hard reset and the problem is still there then I would use your warranty to get a replacement. If you have no warranty it is more complicated and expensive. It might be the battery or it could be a circuit problem - one relatively cheap the other expensive. You could try flashing another ROM but that might have no effect.
Mike
mikechannon said:
.....You could try flashing another ROM but that might have no effect.
Mike
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A thing ive noticed is some radio versions can also cause a fair battery drain.. (aswell as 3rd party apps...but a HR would eleviate that problem).. Id try a radio upgrade before resorting to the warranty route??
mrvanx said:
A thing ive noticed is some radio versions can also cause a fair battery drain.. (aswell as 3rd party apps...but a HR would eleviate that problem).. Id try a radio upgrade before resorting to the warranty route??
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Hi mrvanx,
I would like to ask which radio rom is better.
Thanks.
Hi Mike,
Thank you very much your reply! The problem is I have no warranty. Also, I tried to exchange the battery with my friend's one. But I still got the problem.
So, I think it could be a circuit problem more than the battery problem. Now I wish WM6.0 can improve my problem. I am waiting the chinese version of WM6.0 now.
Thank you very much! ^_^
All The Best
First off try following my Radio Upgrade Guide, then see what effect that has on the battery life?
asachan said:
Hi Mike,
Thank you for your suggestions.
I tried your suggestion:
When the phone got hot, I removed the battery and then reinsert it(after the battery is cool down). Then the phone becomes fine.
But, the problem happened again and again when I had a call more more than 10mins.
If I don't have any call, the phone will not have this problem and the battery can use around 1 day even I used GPRS to access the Internet.
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Hi asachan,
I have exactly the same problem.... I can pull out battery, then insert it let's say after some hours, then I measure battery current to normal 40ma with radio on, full brightness. And it can be like this for a long time, but usually not long at all, maybe 1-10 minutes, or maybe if I get a call, and suddenly the TyTN starts wasting the battery with currents 300-400ma. I use ACB Power Meter for this. If phone is in my pocket and it starts getting hot, I immediately have to save my battery by powering it off, either by pulling out battery of pressing pwr switch for 5 sec. I am using WM6, have tried most latest versions, and have tried many radios, problem not resolved yet. My phone has been like this from I got it like 2 weeks ago, and I went to the store and requested a new battery but that was not the problem. My first battery went to 0%, big problem to recharge, had to kickstart it with some AAA batteries in serial, huh. Now I have to watch battery all the time, it's a hopeless situation. Will try latest radio 1.43 to check if there's any improvements. If I get a good WM5 I may try that as well, but I do not want that since I like WM6.. if I can only get this device to work normally. Btw, I've also experimented with Bandswitch application to see if that helped, but did not get any further on that neither... next thing is maybe to switch off radio unit, and by the help of an antenna and spectrum analyzer measure if this thing is really readiating something anyway.. I'll do this at work one day I am not so busy maybe. All in all I was very exited to get this TyTN finally, but so far it's been a huge disappointment, it may be a HW error, so if I can't solve it I may have to find some WM put into it and give it back.
@fas73
I see on another post of yours that you have flashed several radio ROMs and with no success.
My gut feeling about this is that the power consumption is so extreme (and this continues even after a hard reset) that it is not something that flashing a ROM (radio or otherwise) will fix. I do appreciate that different ROMs have benefits in terms of power consumption, but this seems so extreme that I am not convinced it's going to be solved by this method, as there seems a strong possibility of a harware problem.
However for those stuck with no warranty, I would follow MrVanx advice and guides.
Mike
Yes, I may have to put this problem into the category "HW error", but the funny thing is that my phone behaves normally when I do this: leave it on and fully charge it, then remove battery for some hours, then start it. Doing this it will always have a normal 30-40ma power consumption, but once battery gets lower or warm during some calls, the phone can get into the high-power-consume state.. I am using Radio 1.43 now and my feelings are it's working better when fully charged, but problem is still present.. I'll see what I'll do..
Just an update to the problem with my HTC TyTN. I happened to purchase a faulty device!!! There was indeed a HW error on my brand new device so I got it swapped with another one that works. Not all problems are SW-bugs..
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Just an update to the problem with my HTC TyTN. I happened to purchase a faulty device!!! There was indeed a HW error on my brand new device so I got it swapped with another one that works. Not all problems are SW-bugs..
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Pleased you now have one that behaves itself
And yes, you're right none of us should jump to conclusions about the source of the problem. An example of this is the "fading to white screen" problem. I have seen several examples where folks have purchased a new screen but the problem remains.
My very simple rule is that if after a hard reset or two, the problem remains, it's likely to be a hardware problem. (there are always exceptions though, and that', amongst other things, is what this community is for.
Mike
Dear mobile friends,
Recently i have installed NBD on my MDA vario t-mobile Aku2 phone.
I like it alot!
For the chef cook who made this wonderful recipe, A big thanks for all the effort!
I do have one little question...my battery is empty after one day
Any idea how to fix this¿
Thanks in advance.
Regards, Rogier.
mobile-eenheid said:
Dear mobile friends,
Recently i have installed NBD on my MDA vario t-mobile Aku2 phone.
I like it alot!
For the chef cook who made this wonderful recipe, A big thanks for all the effort!
I do have one little question...my battery is empty after one day
Any idea how to fix this¿
Thanks in advance.
Regards, Rogier.
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get a different phone?
Are you saying your battery is dead 1 day after continuously having this program activated? If so, I'm amazed the battery lasted that long! How old is your device and battery? Does the battery charge o.k. when it's plugged to a charger?
Hi Hotdog,
Thanks for your reply.
My device is 1 year old and the battery drains even when the phone is inactive(battery charges just fine).
Before installing NBD, the battery lasted like 3 days (not really an active user of the phone) and now only 1 day.
Am i the only person experiencing this issue around the forums??
Device info:
ROM version 6.6.6.666 WWE
ROM date 8/23/07
RADIO version 02.19.11
Protocol version 4.1.1309
MDA Vario T-mobile AKU2 model.
Thx.
mobile-eenheid said:
Hi Hotdog,
Thanks for your reply.
My device is 1 year old and the battery drains even when the phone is inactive(battery charges just fine).
Before installing NBD, the battery lasted like 3 days (not really an active user of the phone) and now only 1 day.
Am i the only person experiencing this issue around the forums??
Device info:
ROM version 6.6.6.666 WWE
ROM date 8/23/07
RADIO version 02.19.11
Protocol version 4.1.1309
MDA Vario T-mobile AKU2 model.
Thx.
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Ive seen many people with this problem. all I can suggest to you is, lower rom numbers on WM6 use up the battery faster. I dont know why that is but that is the trend.
Im not suggesting you go out there and get 2.69 radio rom. the higher you go the more unstable the rom is. all Im saying is, it might be the radio rom mixed with WM6. try a reflash back to wm5 and see if battery is back to 3 days.
One other thing you can try is drain the battery completely, recharge it fully, drain it a second time and recharge it fully again. sometimes when you flash the battery memory gets messed up, it's happened to me once.
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Ive seen many people with this problem. all I can suggest to you is, lower rom numbers on WM6 use up the battery faster. I dont know why that is but that is the trend.
Im not suggesting you go out there and get 2.69 radio rom. the higher you go the more unstable the rom is. all Im saying is, it might be the radio rom mixed with WM6. try a reflash back to wm5 and see if battery is back to 3 days.
One other thing you can try is drain the battery completely, recharge it fully, drain it a second time and recharge it fully again. sometimes when you flash the battery memory gets messed up, it's happened to me once.
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Thanks for the reply elmetal!
That brings me to my second question,
Is there a Radio ROM out there for my T-mobile that is stable and runs smooth under NBD 8.0?
What comes after RADIO version 02.19.11? 2.69 radio rom?
I did actually flash back to the original T-mobile NL ROM (latest version)
And there the battery is functioning as expected.
(you can really tell, in the afternoon, the battery is almost at 50% with NBD)
Thank you so much for your help! really appreciated.
mobile-eenheid said:
Thanks for the reply elmetal!
That brings me to my second question,
Is there a Radio ROM out there for my T-mobile that is stable and runs smooth under NBD 8.0?
What comes after RADIO version 02.19.11? 2.69 radio rom?
I did actually flash back to the original T-mobile NL ROM (latest version)
And there the battery is functioning as expected.
(you can really tell, in the afternoon, the battery is almost at 50% with NBD)
Thank you so much for your help! really appreciated.
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hmm.. I never focus much on tmobile users with radio problems, more cingular users. some say the 2.47 works, some say the 2.69 is flawless, I personally use the cingular 2.25.11. it's the stock cingular rom and it works fine.
Im gonna give the forum a good look for tmobile radio rom threads and ill redirect you
I suggest you try the cingular 2.25.11 (being that tmobile in the us uses a lot of cingular towers) since its really really stable.
EDIT
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=314235&highlight=t+mobile+radio+rom
try that, its a decent thread on the ROM workin in the UK, Im not exactly sure where you're stationed but the point is this, there's probably an existing thread out there.
Only thing is, many different people have many different results. Updating Radio ROMs is a little dangerous for me cus the calls I receive can be very important so I try not to mess with it.
Install a new radio rom, leave your phone in standby for a few hours and test texting and calling to see if itll wake up on its own, some roms wont work well. trial and error
Goodluck!
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hmm.. I never focus much on tmobile users with radio problems, more cingular users. some say the 2.47 works, some say the 2.69 is flawless, I personally use the cingular 2.25.11. it's the stock cingular rom and it works fine.
Im gonna give the forum a good look for tmobile radio rom threads and ill redirect you
I suggest you try the cingular 2.25.11 (being that tmobile in the us uses a lot of cingular towers) since its really really stable.
EDIT
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=314235&highlight=t+mobile+radio+rom
try that, its a decent thread on the ROM workin in the UK, Im not exactly sure where you're stationed but the point is this, there's probably an existing thread out there.
Only thing is, many different people have many different results. Updating Radio ROMs is a little dangerous for me cus the calls I receive can be very important so I try not to mess with it.
Install a new radio rom, leave your phone in standby for a few hours and test texting and calling to see if itll wake up on its own, some roms wont work well. trial and error
Goodluck!
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Point taken
Will do some more research on Tmobile Dutch(Netherlands) Radio Roms to see if that helps.
Thanks for all the effort elmetal!
Nope it's not the Radio Rom 2.19 is the most stable and loses less energy.
The 2.69 radio Has more problems keeping the signal so it uses more energy to maintain the signal, and of course you might lose some calls here and there.
Earlier posts do indeed have the classic basic Battery drain tips.
But what about deleting the items from the Windows\StartUp folder?
Flash a fully loaded battery.
How about borowing my new battery and see if it makes a difference since my wizard is on repair.
Some users even have reported that 8.2 actually was better on the battery then 8.3.
Some believe that it might have something to do with the memory leak problem most Wizard roms have issues with. Keeping more memory reffreshed does require more power. So try to set the weather plug in to only update mannualy set the homescreen to not time out. Or try setting up the included smartskey to overclock instead of Battery status althought i don't think that battery status causes isseus.
Or do a Combo. Drain the battery recharge it perform a hard reset or clear storage. You could also try a lower pagepool rom version, nowadays you can change the pagepool without reflashing. Lower is slower but again it uses less memory. You could also use wizard registry wizard to change the font cache to lower setting and other cache settings.
My advice is to charge as less as possible as my USB connector got ****ed.
I tried the 25.11 on T-mobile network but quit using it as it either froze the ROM or could just not connect.
Or yes you could get another phone
Also make sure you change the settings of the network registry to not automaticly scanning for the network.
elmetal said:
Ive seen many people with this problem. all I can suggest to you is, lower rom numbers on WM6 use up the battery faster. I dont know why that is but that is the trend.
Im not suggesting you go out there and get 2.69 radio rom. the higher you go the more unstable the rom is. all Im saying is, it might be the radio rom mixed with WM6. try a reflash back to wm5 and see if battery is back to 3 days.
One other thing you can try is drain the battery completely, recharge it fully, drain it a second time and recharge it fully again. sometimes when you flash the battery memory gets messed up, it's happened to me once.
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I have a MDA and I am running WM6 and using the 2.69.11 radio and I have no problems. I found that changing the task manager settings so that the program actually closes when you click x helps increase free ram and also, don't use any overclocker software such as battery status(it kills your battery and it doesnt make that much of a difference anyways...). Another thing you want to do is disable the today timeout under today settings. that tends to use more ram and thus, kills the battery faster.
See i knew i wasn't crazy about the today timeout
Thanks for the confirm.
I had the same problem with I upgraded to 8.1. Battery drain was pretty bad.. Usually getting home from work, I'd still be in the 90's with moderate texting, but with 8.1 i'd be in like the 50's. I just went back to 7.9.
The problem isn't the ROM... it's the audio manager from HTC, that sucker eats battery like I've never seen... been having this issue too, until I stoped using the audio manager and started using windows media player!
dferreira said:
The problem isn't the ROM... it's the audio manager from HTC, that sucker eats battery like I've never seen... been having this issue too, until I stoped using the audio manager and started using windows media player!
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Same here i (as in i didn't actually notice it) but i stopped using the audio manager in favour of WMP as it gave better reactions to using the Stereo Bluetooth headset. As in Audio manager sometimes did not pick up the next and previous commands or would stop playing.
As i said i never really paid attention and i can only speculate that the battery drained faster when i did use Audiomanager.
Just goes to show that closing apps completely is always the best practice.
BTW, dferreira.
Ai's it Funny how one month after your WM5SE release people actually reacted after my post
What is your reason to use WM5 base?
WM5 is the native OS for Wizards... so, I find it to be more quick than WM6... Never gave me problems, like WM6 did. WM6 is just a face lift on WM5 so... I'm trying to make it as good as WM6 but quicker
Noonski....
You are my sunshine, my only sunshine
You make me happy when skies are gray
You'll never know dear how much I love you
Please don't take my sunshine away
Battery drain solved by flashing to NBD 8.0!!(¿)
Thanks for all the effort mobile friends!
mobile-eenheid said:
Noonski....
You are my sunshine, my only sunshine
You make me happy when skies are gray
You'll never know dear how much I love you
Please don't take my sunshine away
Battery drain solved by flashing to NBD 8.0!!(¿)
Thanks for all the effort mobile friends!
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What build were you having a problem to begin with?
BTW you should see Alban's Touch running on 312MHZ with 12 MB Pagepool.
It Fliesszzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
Guys,
pretty much as the topic says...it drains about 40 to 50% a day when it is idle....if I am using it it can be anything up to a 1% a minute.
Any hints on where to look - tried using battlog to log the usage but i cannot open the subsequent file at all.
Wiggz said:
Guys,
pretty much as the topic says...it drains about 40 to 50% a day when it is idle....if I am using it it can be anything up to a 1% a minute.
Any hints on where to look - tried using battlog to log the usage but i cannot open the subsequent file at all.
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Wiggz,
Try checking if you're in a dead-zone with no reception? (Your phone may be constantly trying to search for a signal). Do this for Wi-Fi too. Make sure it is not constantly scanning for a network.
Similarly, open up your task manager. How many programs do you see running in the background? Remember that pressing X in Windows Mobile does not mean it closes the application, it only means that the application is minimized.
Cheers.
Wifi is hardly ever on. My signal is always constant, but I have my data connection on 24/7 for emails. The only program I ever see consume CPU power when idle is "changescreen". I always check that a program has closed properly when I click the 'x'.
I know data connection on eats some battery but jesus - not that much surely?
Wiggz said:
Wifi is hardly ever on. My signal is always constant, but I have my data connection on 24/7 for emails. The only program I ever see consume CPU power when idle is "changescreen". I always check that a program has closed properly when I click the 'x'.
I know data connection on eats some battery but jesus - not that much surely?
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Wiggz,
The question remains, how many programs do you see when you open up the task-manager? You did not answer the question.
From what I've observed with my friend's Toshiba Portege, he lost 30% in an hour. He did not realize that he had 15-ish programs "idling" in the background with very little RAM use. Long story short: Turn everything off if you don't need it and just keep the Task Manager running. He now goes through the night with 1 ~ 2% loss.
Good day.
PoisonWolf said:
Wiggz,
The question remains, how many programs do you see when you open up the task-manager? You did not answer the question.
From what I've observed with my friend's Toshiba Portege, he lost 30% in an hour. He did not realize that he had 15-ish programs "idling" in the background with very little RAM use. Long story short: Turn everything off if you don't need it and just keep the Task Manager running. He now goes through the night with 1 ~ 2% loss.
Good day.
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When I open up task manager I see 4 applications running (taskmgr, manila, cprog x2) - when I check the processes I have many more obviously. However these are all processes I'd expect to be running (gwes.exe, cprog.exe, device.exe, services.exe etc...)
Any more advice?
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When I open up task manager I see 4 applications running (taskmgr, manila, cprog x2) - when I check the processes I have many more obviously. However these are all processes I'd expect to be running (gwes.exe, cprog.exe, device.exe, services.exe etc...)
Any more advice?
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Wiggz,
Unfortunately, that's all from me (I dont even have this phone yet, I'm saving up for it in the next couple of weeks). Try turning off your data and see how it goes. But damn, 50% loss just on idling, something in the background is definitely killing the battery.
Cheers!
Thanks for the help anyway - annoying the crap out of me. My Artemis used to go for days without needing a charge...I suppose my battery could be screwed but I want to troubleshoot first before I bite the bullet on that one - suppose I could hard reset and see what the drain is?
Things idling in RAM should not have any significant hit on the battery life. However, having the data connection on 24/7 will indeed kill your battery life, especially if you're using 3g or higher (Edge drains alot aswell, but not as much as 3g and higher). Since emails seem important to you, I'm guessing you have it set to dl every 5min (which is the most frequent setting). If applicable, change it to 10 or 15; granted it's possible you do need to get your emails ASAP and you need the 5min frequency. Now regardless whether you changed the frequency of the auto dl or not, set your data connection to terminate after a 1min of not being used. This should help you get a good bit more out of your battery.
(I have emails dl every 30min and RSS feeds and push pages once an hour. Data enables itself when needed and then terminates after a minute of not being used. This allows me to get much more than a days usage out of the phone. The only way I kill the phone is if on top of all that, I listen to music/radio for about 6 hours)
Hope it helps
oh, and in case you don't know, HD Tweak is one way to terminate data after X amount of time of not being used.
do you have stock or cooked rom btw? duttys v3 xt, for example, is known to drain battery a lot.
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oh, and in case you don't know, HD Tweak is one way to terminate data after X amount of time of not being used.
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Cheers for this. I have HD Tweak and have tried that data connection termination setting before, however there is a little comment along with it that it can stop data and/or voice calls. Has anyone had any issues with it?
Thanks
i had similar problem, battery got drained overnight or during the day with a speed of light... but in my case the bad boy was Palringo (IM) which was auto starting with every phone reset and did not show on taskbar...it is so bad that it drained fully charged battery in aprox. 6-7 hours. so now i hardly use it, and whenever i do i make sure its closed properly....
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Cheers for this. I have HD Tweak and have tried that data connection termination setting before, however there is a little comment along with it that it can stop data and/or voice calls. Has anyone had any issues with it?
Thanks
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personally I have had no issues whatsoever. The voice calls that I'm guessing they're referring to is VOIP which uses your data plan to make the call as I don't see why it would interfere with normal calls. I think the easiest thing is just to give it a try, and if it doesn't work for you, then let us know and hopefully we'll be able to come up with a different solution.
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personally I have had no issues whatsoever. The voice calls that I'm guessing they're referring to is VOIP which uses your data plan to make the call as I don't see why it would interfere with normal calls. I think the easiest thing is just to give it a try, and if it doesn't work for you, then let us know and hopefully we'll be able to come up with a different solution.
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Well the reason I mentioned it was that I enabled that as one of a number of weaks and ended up having to hard reset as I wasn't getting Texts in a timely manner etc....it was probably another setting but I couldn't be sure.
Will try again. Only other thing is that data connection on 24/7 is great for a quick browse here and there and stock updates etc...
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do you have stock or cooked rom btw? duttys v3 xt, for example, is known to drain battery a lot.
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why is that, by the way?
You haven't got Sprite Virtual Mobile installed have you? I tried it out on my HD and it sucked the life out of it for some strange reason. And it wasn't even showing up in task manager.
Is there a list of processes, services etc that we can safely remove/disable to work in the background? What say all?
glad this thread came up - my blackstone has been absolutely fine until I had the genius idea of "optimising" everything about 2 weeks ago with HD Tweak...
Now it's not HD Tweaks fault, but whatever I have changed means that it can drain a full charge overnight, and by morning its nigh on empty, i'm going to try and change it all back today, but for sure some setting I've changed is sucking juice like no-ones business.
FWIW - I havent installed anything during this time, the only thing i've changed is some of the settings - so it's not a "rogue" app draining the battery.
OT - sorry for the semi-hijack - I guess my point is that i'll have a play with the settings and see if I can determine what's eating the battery and then compare with other people.
that's fine (re: hijack) I think the two topics are closely connected.....not sure of the answer though
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that's fine (re: hijack) I think the two topics are closely connected.....not sure of the answer though
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ta - me either - i've changed a few settings and made a note - will post if it doesnt eat the battery overnight over the next couple of days.
Forgive me if this has been discussed already but I haven't really found anything relating to it when I did a search.
I had started my wifi router when I was using my winmo, then I booted to android. I was at work and my friend noticed that my winmo wifi network was showing up on his phone even though I had been in android for the entire morning. He could even connect.
I had been having freezing problems and high battery drain problems so I thought maybe this could be something that is causing the problems. So as of right now I disable all my wireless communications within winmo before I start my android and things actually seem to run better. I don't know if this is just a fluke or what but I will know more in the morning, as my android almost never fails to freeze when I leave it in standby overnight.
What are your thoughts? Is this common practice to disable these things or is this something new?
Thanks.
Forgot to say I am using Kumars premium 2.10 ROM I think? and Froyostone sense V2.
maybe disabling connections in winmo helps with heavy battery drain, but i can't imagine that it helps with freezes, since they seem to be related to the g-sensor.
or do you have freezes that require a reboot?!
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maybe disabling connections in winmo helps with heavy battery drain, but i can't imagine that it helps with freezes, since they seem to be related to the g-sensor.
or do you have freezes that require a reboot?!
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I still have freezes occasionally even with the G-sensor disabled with g-script. I get the SOD with NO button lights.
what radio rom do you have? some people report that another radio rom fixed the sod's.
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I still have freezes occasionally even with the G-sensor disabled with g-script. I get the SOD with NO button lights.
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I disable my WiFi in Windows Mobile first.
You may be interested that I found a post suggesting the use of an app called "Lite Setting Profiles" to disable the WiFi when your screen turns off. This, along with having the G-Sensor disabled (SetCPU and Autokiller running as described in various places), seems to have solved my freezes and SoD.
In fact I'm currently testing with my G-Sensor enabled again to see if I can get away with it running as well.
Now that I think about it, yes, I do also see the WinMo version along side Andriod.
But... Even when I was just on WinMo by itself, I would see the Wifi in my laptop's list, even if I had WiFi on the phone turned off. I couldn't connect, but it always did show, so I've been used to it and haven't thought of it once I tried out Android.
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what radio rom do you have? some people report that another radio rom fixed the sod's.
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I have 2.10.50 radio
Still getting SOD in fact it's getting really bad now. If my screen sleeps for more than 5 minutes I get the SOD.
Here is my 2 cents on your wifi router story.
I doubt that wifi was still running on your windows ROM as windows is killed when android starts.
What I've noticed in the past is when I connect to the wifi router on my phone using my laptop, it remembers the connection for later. In fact, I've had times when my phone is off and my laptop still shows the phone router as available. I haven't tried connecting to it when its not actually available but my guess is that in your friend's case, he would not have been able to browse. His phone probably just showed as connected to your wifi router but did he try browsing something using that connection?
No he killed the connection before he tried to browse anything. My question is though how is the wifi router signal even being seen, i killed windows at home and when I got to work he saw it. That's my main question.
Also I changed my radio to 2.12
maybe that will help some.
I had SOD with almost every build till I switched to the 2.12 radio and have not had one SOD since then.
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I had SOD with almost every build till I switched to the 2.12 radio and have not had one SOD since then.
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I hope that's the case with mine. So far so good, but if im using it regularly it never seemed to SOD, but if i left it overnight it always SOD without fail.
I had an odd thing happen as well. I had some wifi connection issues in Android and rebooted and turned wifi on in WM and then booted android. Once android was up I had a slow blinking Green LED..which I never get any LED lights on in Android.