Why is a Class 6 SD (and a2sd) better? - Hero CDMA General

I have a PNY Class 6 8GB MicroSD for my phone. I was wondering what are the benefits of a2sd, and what are the benefits of a class 6 SD rather than a lower number? I don't currently use a2sd, and wondering if i should.

lower number is slower. iirc, the Hero supports speeds up to class 6, which is faster then the phones ROM
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abcdfv said:
lower number is slower. iirc, the Hero supports speeds up to class 6, which is faster then the phones ROM
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Ok, that makes sense, but why should I use a2sd? How is it better than storing them on internal memory?

if its a class 6 it will load faster.
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Ability to have more apps installed, as well as not having to wipe all the applications when you flash a new ROM (although some require you to wipe the ext partition, the ROM chef will tell you if you need to wipe the ext parition (where your apps are stored).
I didn't think I would ever need A2SD until I got to my limit.
I have not noticed a drop in performance opening apps with A2SD on my class 6 card, if there is, its milliseconds.

HeroMeng said:
Ok, that makes sense, but why should I use a2sd? How is it better than storing them on internal memory?
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A2SD moves all of your installed apps to the SD card. If you have a class 6 card, which have a faster read and write speed than the internal memory in the phone, it makes everything run a lot faster since it doesn't have to run everything from the phone.

sorry to get off topic a bit, but ive been looking for a good class 6 card. the only brand i have seen is a-data i believe for about 20 dollars. im not really looking for something that has a large capacity. in your opinion, which one is better as far as brand? and how much did you pay for your card?

One thing to remember though is that class 6 just means it is certified/guaranteed to transfer at 6MB/sec or faster. A class 2 card can still be as fast or faster than a class 6 and there are some out there that do just this.

jlem26 said:
One thing to remember though is that class 6 just means it is certified/guaranteed to transfer at 6MB/sec or faster. A class 2 card can still be as fast or faster than a class 6 and there are some out there that do just this.
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This is what I stopped in to say.
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kashb91 said:
sorry to get off topic a bit, but ive been looking for a good class 6 card. the only brand i have seen is a-data i believe for about 20 dollars. im not really looking for something that has a large capacity. in your opinion, which one is better as far as brand? and how much did you pay for your card?
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I wouldn't... every A-Data sdcard I've ever bought has developed bad sectors almost immediately.
Sandisk is the standard, but a class 6 SanDisk is hard to find. The last few I bought were Transcend.

How do you tell what class your card is?

danieledwards1 said:
How do you tell what class your card is?
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It's on the card itself. It's the letter C with a number inside it. That number is the class number.

posguy99 said:
I wouldn't... every A-Data sdcard I've ever bought has developed bad sectors almost immediately.
Sandisk is the standard, but a class 6 SanDisk is hard to find. The last few I bought were Transcend.
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thats what ive always been looking for, but as you said its hard to find. if you dont mind me asking how much did you pay for your card and what size is it? also, thanks for the heads up on the a-data card.

I read a review not long ago about sandisk class 2 cards. the tests they ran on them showed they were the equivalent to 10 mb/s. of course you would have to get the right batch number. does anyone know a site that tracks this kind of info?
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I have a class 6 Transcend and use app2sd. Just wondering how much memory is it supposed to be freeing up?

gizmosears said:
I have a class 6 Transcend and use app2sd. Just wondering how much memory is it supposed to be freeing up?
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Depends on how you use a2sd.
If you move dalvik-cache to it as well as your apps it'll be a lot.
But the total amount depends on the number and size of the apps you have installed. I'm sitting with 126/160mb free on Internal Storage.

jlem26 said:
One thing to remember though is that class 6 just means it is certified/guaranteed to transfer at 6MB/sec or faster. A class 2 card can still be as fast or faster than a class 6 and there are some out there that do just this.
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bobsbobbers said:
This is what I stopped in to say.
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+2 I have a Class 2 card and I get around ~7+MB/sec, I'm tempted to bump it up to run A2SD more aggressively so that my phone's faster.

i was thinking about buying a class 4 16 gb Sd card.. will this help at all i am not running app2sd..so will the sd card make any difference??
Will it make my screen run smoother and fast on Damage Control 2.8??

xxxk15 said:
i was thinking about buying a class 4 16 gb Sd card.. will this help at all i am not running app2sd..so will the sd card make any difference??
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If you're not using a2sd it probably won't make much difference either way. If you're thinking of running a2sd later spend the extra 10.00 and get the class 6. regardless of the people talking about their high speed class 2 cards, you'd have to be fairly lucky to get those speeds (as someone else noted, depends on the batch of cards) with class 2, or 4.

an also if i run app2sd if i pull out my memory card at anytime will it mess up my phone??
and i have the 1st class right now so upgrading will make no difference when downloading apps to my phone or anything like that??

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[Q] Fastest SD for Android on HD2

Hi guys i have been using
FroyoStone Sense - V2 for couple of days now and with basic winmo install, so far I love it.
Although it seems to slow down when more stuff is opened also when using Astro for file explorer.
Since this android build is all running from the SD card are there better cards like faster ones? I'm using the original 16g that came with my T-mobile phone. Is that the fastest i can have for that phone?
what's your sd card class ?
kawazaki said:
what's your sd card class ?
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Class 2 i think
im usung a 4gb class 6 and its screaming compared to my friends using the included (class 2) 16gb cards.
so yes the speed of the sd card helps, they go all the way up to class 10
strickzilla said:
im usung a 4gb class 6 and its screaming compared to my friends using the included (class 2) 16gb cards.
so yes the speed of the sd card helps, they go all the way up to class 10
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ok thx looks like im getting new sd
Class 6 seems to be the most popular. I went with this one.
wait till the nand rom comes..it will be there soon
DN41
im not sure i want an incomplete rom in the nand.
I'm using a 16gb Kingston C10, and yes it's really fast, compared to my old
16gb sandisk C2.
Ok but now I need to transfer my android and all the stuff to the new sd
should I just copy over all the folders and thats all?
I want to keep all my settings cotacts, apps and more!

SD Card Question

I'm new to android phones, and have a very noobish question. I'm wanting to upgrade the SD card in my g2, and am not sure what I should get. I wanted to get a 32 gig card, but I can only find class 4 cards, if I drop to a 16 gig I can get class 6 or class 10 cards. Which one would be the best, I run psx4droid so I do have the games on the card. Other then that everything is ran from the phones internal memory I think, so would a class 4 card be fine or does it really need to be class 6 or better, also is class 10 worth the difference in costs?
I'm still using the stock sd. I don't run games though. Its up to your personal preference. If I was to upgrade i'd get top of the line. They do make a difference in classes but I don't think enough to the point where it will effect your psx gaming. My 2 cents is to go with what your comfortable with.
[G2/HTC Vision]
the classes refer to write speed so dont worry
I'm using a SanDisk 32GB Class 2 card with my Nexus One and it's working well. Speed tests have shown that it is performing slightly better than the Class 4 level.
Thank you everyone for the timely responses and information!
Were r u finding the 32 and how much?
As to the op I use stock card abd psx 1.7 without a problem runs smooth
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xile6 said:
Were r u finding the 32 and how much?
As to the op I use stock card abd psx 1.7 without a problem runs smooth
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I'm not sure what the polices are on links here, but I found it at newegg for 119.99.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820139393
SynOfDreams said:
I'm not sure what the polices are on links here, but I found it at newegg for 119.99.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820139393
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links are cool as long as your not trying to sell something or its illegal software.
but i would never pay that much for a card for a phone thats a 1tb usb hard drive for me
i was going to get a 32gb long time ago but ebay are full of fakes
but yea the stock card works great for psx games

Problem with unrooted legend froyo 2.2 8gb sdhc card.

Hello everyone,
This is my very first post. Sorry if its redundant one. But i couldnt find any thread with this specific problem.
Here is the thing, i bought HTC legend just 2 weeks ago. I have unrooted legend with Froyo 2.2 vodafone update. Yesterday i bought Kingston 8GB class 4 microSDHC card. I placed it in my legend. It detects it no problem formatted it. But it seems whenever any application tried to write to sd card. I get the message "SD card unexpectedly removed".
I have tried formatting card with Panasonic sd card formatter . Tried formating it under windows. The card works fine on PC read/write. But for some odd reason phone can only read from it
Also stock 2gb card is working like a charm in phone.
Please Help!
Try with some other brand
Usually Kingston has lot of duplicates especially in India
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gallery said:
Try with some other brand
Usually Kingston has lot of duplicates especially in India
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Yes i did consider that possibility. But the thing is card is working perfectly fine in pc. I have 3MB/s write speed when i copy things into card using pc. So if card was not original it shouldn't work even under windows. It just doesnt work with legend.
If i shall not find a suitable solution here. I will be left with no choice but to spend more money. Try ScanDisk.
Anyone??? I dont want to end up buying another card just to find out it doesnt work either.
man i have the same issue using kinsgton 8gb microsd hc, for example i do some photos, and on the 5th one, it says unaable to save file do unsuitable permissions or smth like that...it also mixes my music in a way i cannot imagine ! ahah, it puts like..5 songs into 1 without any pause ...dont know. the stock one is perfect, but i just guess theres problem with the company..they might be fake.
Try to enable usb debugging mode.
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Try to enable usb debugging mode.
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can that change something? sorry for my stupid reaction but at the moment i cannot try it , but im curious as sh1t ;]] aahha
I use a 8GB kingston micro sd, and i have no issues.
I didn't buy it from the store though, it came with my nokia 5800
xac501 said:
I have 3MB/s write speed when i copy things into card using pc.
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3 MB with a class 4 Kingston ?
You should consider that your card is a fake one ...
zuul70 said:
3 MB with a class 4 Kingston ?
You should consider that your card is a fake one ...
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That could be the case. At this point i have given up trying to make 8gb card work on my phone .I think i will buy ScanDisk and give it a try.
Any idea how much write speed a class 5 card should have?
Class 5 has minimum write speed of 5MB/s
xac501 said:
Any idea how much write speed a class 5 card should have?
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5MB/s minimum. If class 5 existed
Here is the definition of the class for sdcards :
Class 2 : 2 MB/s minimum write speed
Class 4 : 4 MB/s minimum write speed
Class 6 : 6 MB/s minimum write speed
Class 10 : 10 MB/s minimum write speed
However, certains class 6 are less performant than certain class 2, so try to choose your new card wisely.
zuul70 said:
5MB/s minimum. If class 5 existed
Here is the definition of the class for sdcards :
Class 2 : 2 MB/s minimum write speed
Class 4 : 4 MB/s minimum write speed
Class 6 : 6 MB/s minimum write speed
Class 10 : 10 MB/s minimum write speed
However, certains class 6 are less performant than certain class 2, so try to choose your new card wisely.
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can u recommend some brand? i dont buy kinsgton anymore as soon i bought 2 and both of them write on 900kbs haahha, ..so scandisc?sony..?
ivanakis said:
can u recommend some brand? i dont buy kinsgton anymore as soon i bought 2 and both of them write on 900kbs haahha, ..so scandisc?sony..?
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sometimes it is not the brand but the shop/seller is the issue. can always buy online from Kingston online shop if u have doubt abt counterfeit.
Hi! Check the lock switch! maybe its turning on when you put the card into the phone...
I had kinsgton 8gb microsd with same problem
work fine on PC with low read/write rate and my HTC legend rejecting it sometimes saying i don't have permission over my SD
anyways, this was due to corrupted SD card. I replaced it and everything works fine now
I had kinsgton 8gb cls4 microsd with same problem
on my LG OPTIMUS ONE with froyo
it notify me with msg "SD card unexpectedly removed"
some time after this notify msg my phone reboot ifself

Class 10 mirco sd

Has anyone considered getting anything over a class 6? I know ill be picking up a new one for my sg2, just looking at my options, Whats your opinion?
btw, Is there any Alaskans here that have purchased the sg2?
I bought a class 10 32GB card:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13319393#post13319393
I did this mostly because it cost the same as other class cards.
Death666Angel said:
I bought a class 10 32GB card:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13319393#post13319393
I did this mostly because it cost the same as other class cards.
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I've had one of the Lexars for some time, and love it enough that I bought a new one when they finally re-stocked after ages!
I think this is a nice read for you guys:
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/increase-the-reading-speed-of-your-sd-card/
No real need for class 10.
MoonRaven said:
I think this is a nice read for you guys:
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/increase-the-reading-speed-of-your-sd-card/
No real need for class 10.
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First of all, yes, class10 is probably a bit of overkill for anything I'll do with this phone. But like I said, it wasn't more expansive than any other card.
However, in regards to your thread, as far as I understand it, changing the cache size does not make a class2 card perform as a class10 card. It only makes any given card perform to its inherent maximum speeds. So that is not really an argument against class10.
I personally wouldn't recommend the highest class card at all costs. Often, even lower classes perform similar to higher classes if one is a bit lucky.
According to gsmarena preview, 1080p bitrate is about 17mbps (http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_ii_vs_lg_optimus_2x-review-585p4.php) which translates to 2MB/s. This can be done with a class2 card. So you be the judge of what you need.
MoonRaven said:
I think this is a nice read for you guys:
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/increase-the-reading-speed-of-your-sd-card/
No real need for class 10.
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But read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1032317

32GB SD which one best for defy?

Hey Folks!
Anyone is useing 32GB SD here with defy? and have experience too?
I wanna replace my current 16GB SD beacuse i need more space, only the gameloft folder more than 10GB...
So what the correct brand that works flawless with defy? So i need experience about from you.
Maybe put sd tools bench here, thx.
Icidu MicroSDHC 32GB, Class4 working fine here.
I have Kingston 32GB class 4...Works like a charm for over a month now...
Thx pals!
i forgot, pls write what OS ver., i use CM7 RC0.
somebody with class 10?
sirdamnedone said:
Hey Folks!
Anyone is useing 32GB SD here with defy? and have experience too?
I wanna replace my current 16GB SD beacuse i need more space, only the gameloft folder more than 10GB...
So what the correct brand that works flawless with defy? So i need experience about from you.
Maybe put sd tools bench here, thx.
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same thread here..
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14825893
Hey guys, i have a question.
Defy with sd card 32GB don't have a slow running in the apps and system? I think when search data of app have a scann all SD and need some time, so have a slow run.
PS: Sorry for my Inglish! :$
SanDisk 32GB class 2
Works perfect.
Right now I am running Android 2.3.4
NoName 32GB class 2, 20€...works...
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somebody with class 10?
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I use Kinstom 32GB class10 early. But when I take photo, some photo maybe have error.
After that I check for internet about it. Someone said that maybe Kinstom's problem. It's not stable.
Now I use the Sandisk 32GB class4.
Maybe defy not support class10.
or that's Kinstom's problem. I don't know.
bkk99213 said:
I use Kinstom 32GB class10 early. But when I take photo, some photo maybe have error.
After that I check for internet about it. Someone said that maybe Kinstom's problem. It's not stable.
Now I use the Sandisk 32GB class4.
Maybe defy not support class10.
or that's Kinstom's problem. I don't know.
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I bought a Team 16Gb Class 10 micro SD and it freeze my Defy, but I read that all Smartphone have trouble with class 10 cards (maemo and WP7 too).
It's something related to voltage (if you use setsvel to undervolt) and with partition (you need format the card with 32k or 64k)
I think Class 4-6 will be enough, until the Android Kernel will support class10.
diamond_lover said:
I bought a Team 16Gb Class 10 micro SD and it freeze my Defy, but I read that all Smartphone have trouble with class 10 cards (maemo and WP7 too).
It's something related to voltage (if you use setsvel to undervolt) and with partition (you need format the card with 32k or 64k)
I think Class 4-6 will be enough, until the Android Kernel will support class10.
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I don't know my card's partition. Can I find it in my phone?
bkk99213 said:
I don't know my card's partition. Can I find it in my phone?
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Did you mean SD Class?
Just look at the card, it has either a 2 or a 4 or a 6 in a circle stamped on it. Thats the class. The class = the number of MB/S it can transfer.
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Did you mean SD Class?
Just look at the card, it has either a 2 or a 4 or a 6 in a circle stamped on it. Thats the class. The class = the number of MB/S it can transfer.
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No. Class=speed only. He said the partition have 32K 64K.....I think that is not Class. Because the class can't change when you format the sd card.
bkk99213 said:
I use Kinstom 32GB class10 early. But when I take photo, some photo maybe have error.
After that I check for internet about it. Someone said that maybe Kinstom's problem. It's not stable.
Now I use the Sandisk 32GB class4.
Maybe defy not support class10.
or that's Kinstom's problem. I don't know.
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thx 4 the info 4 all!
Now, my mainly target is sandisk 32GB class 4
dont buy class 10 for deft,
always error
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Using a class 4 32 GB Kingston since a few days, working nicely. Got 5.5 MB/s write, 12 MB/s read. Thanks for the info, I was going to buy a more expensive (and I though, more future proof and safer) class 10 one, before I read about the compatibility problems with class 10 here.
using class 6 non brand. Works perfectly with 2.3.4 CM7
bkk99213 said:
I don't know my card's partition. Can I find it in my phone?
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If you want to find out what partition your card is just plug it into your computer then mount as SD storage. Right click on the card from "computer" and select format. The default settings your card is set at will be shown. You can change it to other sizes, and formats (like FAT, NTFS, but FAT32 should be default and used for phones). I recently formatted my Samsung 8GB class 6 at 4069, and no issues so far. Don't worry it won't format unless you select to format, so you can do this just to check.
Hi there, because of this thread i bought a class 6 16GB Trancend SD card. Formatted it with 64kb clusters now have 11,2 Write and 21,9 Read speed (in SD tools).
Thx you all for the advice not to buy a class 10!
Running GB 2.3.4 nandroid.

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