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HTC Blackstone Service Manual

HTC Blackstone Service Manual now available:
www.mikechannon.net
Mike

cool thanks mate

Woo !
Many thanks

thanks! useful!

Good News...thanks

Thanks Mike

Thanks, mikechannon
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I am not a very techi person, could someone predict for me how difficult would it be to repalce a dented metal frame

Great!
thanks very much! you are so fast!!

hykhleif said:
I am not a very techi person, could someone predict for me how difficult would it be to repalce a dented metal frame
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Looking at the service manual, the screen and bezel can not be seperated, so i guess it is gonna be expensive i.e if you want to replace the bezel you will also get a new screen.
Suggest people ensure their phone is covered by insurance!

so do you think its easy to replace the screen and metal frame?
I am really considering to buy a dummy htc hd but before I do I just want make sure that if it is easy to do by myself

hykhleif said:
so do you think its easy to replace the screen and metal frame?
I am really considering to buy a dummy htc hd but before I do I just want make sure that if it is easy to do by myself
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A dummy htc hd will probably not have a real screen and looking at the service manual, there appears to be no option to detach the screen from the bezel, however this comment is just based on observation and hopefully someone that has taken one apart can confirm.
I saw a discussion on the forum somewhere that the cost of a new screen was almost half the cost of the touch HD itself due to the fact that the bezel had to be replaced at the same time.

Thanks for the manual...
So... can anyone confirm the N. America frequencies that are listed in the manual on page 5?? Does this de-bunk the HTC twitter message??

Thanks for share!

Thanks at lot

ardsar said:
A dummy htc hd will probably not have a real screen and looking at the service manual, there appears to be no option to detach the screen from the bezel, however this comment is just based on observation and hopefully someone that has taken one apart can confirm.
I saw a discussion on the forum somewhere that the cost of a new screen was almost half the cost of the touch HD itself due to the fact that the bezel had to be replaced at the same time.
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I managed to detach the screen from the bezel, but it really was a hard peace of work. You have to stick a thin peace of plastic between the screen an the bezel and lever the display. You should be very careful due to the lcd display and the digitizer are glued together and you might get between the digitizer and the display and destroy it that way. The other thing you should'nt do is lervering the display on the bottom (where the usb connector is) due to the flatcable is located there and you will destroy it with the plastic tool.
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http://mobile.brando.com.hk/htc-tou...splay-with-touch-screen-_p04019c0696d088.html
http://mikechannon.net/PDF Manuals/HTC_Blackstone_Service_Manual.pdf
I did replace the display from my TC very easily but on the HD I had hugh problems.

Did you manage to remov ethe antenna cover like in the manual? I don't seem to be able to remove it.
I ran over my phone with the car and I want to dismantle it to check what parts are broken.

tinutac said:
Did you manage to remov ethe antenna cover like in the manual? I don't seem to be able to remove it.
I ran over my phone with the car and I want to dismantle it to check what parts are broken.
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Yes I did without destroying it, but I needed special tools. I used a very thin peace of metal. On page 20 from the dissembling manuel you can see the two square holes where the antenna cover is attached to the body.
Just go on and try it but be careful not to brake the little plastic clamps.

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HTC Blackstone Service Manual now available:
www.mikechannon.net
Mike
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Cheers mate. I'll have a look

Thanks mikechannon

How to replace HTC HD2 Touch Screen Glass ?

How to replace HTC HD2 Touch Screen Glass ?
Required easy video or photo tutorial.
Only replace HTC HD2 Touch Screen without disassembling all device camera, speaker etc.
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I want to order this part
http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-HD2-T8585-L...m&pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item439f5e14b9#shId
Video how i broke my HTC HD2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onMWYZgHhrk
Scratch Test:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVNbe5V-1Sw
Temp. Fix , to protect fingers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOQfM8cTvgU
EDIT:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701003

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=613954
"Required easy video or photo tutorial.
Only replace HTC HD2 Touch Screen without disassembling all device camera, speaker etc."
If i remember correctly there is a photo tutorial on some blog.
no it's not easy, yes you have to disassemble your phone, no i wouldn't bother trying if i have no clue about how the whole thing is set up.
repairing charges are about 170-200€ ~250$.

I haven't done it yet myself, my screen is alsoo cracked, but it seems very tricky. However, you have to disassemble the HD2 befor you can reach the screen. Also, you have to place the LCD part in the oven for 5 to 10 minutes at 50C degrees to let the glue get loose, because the screen is glued on. And even the digitizer is glued onto the lcd. So, even if you manages just to remove the digitizer, you still have to find a way how to glue it back to each other, without making a mess.
I have already disassembled my HD2 with succes. I am going to HK anyway, so I going to buy replacement LCD + Digitizer and bring my HD2 with so I can fix it right there and check if everything works ok aigain.
If so, I xan ditch the iPhone. I hate it.

I've replaced the digitizer from my Samsung Omnia i900 and it turned out to be very easy, following the instructions I found on the internet and YouTube. I guess it's the same for the HD2.

Is the digitzer and glass surface seperable?
Because i can see what looks like a thin layer of glass from the bits of glass which has fallen off on the bottom corner where it took the hit. Or am i just looking at the edge of hte LCD screen?
And since the screen still responds as per norm.
Picture is linked below:

the best dissassembly video
here is the best video for the hd2
www dot youtube dot com/watch?v=cL-jnUKufC4&feature=related[/url]
and assembly here
www dot youtube dot com/watch?v=t8Q7mXdcJ54&NR=1[/url]
thanks mark

Couple of questions!
1972 said:
here is the best video for the hd2
www dot youtube dot com/watch?v=cL-jnUKufC4&feature=related[/url]
and assembly here
www dot youtube dot com/watch?v=t8Q7mXdcJ54&NR=1[/url]
thanks mark
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Hi, thanks for these videos,, very detailed!
Have you got any idea about what she means by 'paste'? Is she just saying to connect A > B or is there some kind of adhesive needed? Also, have you got any links to buy some Mylar, OR do you think I could get away with reusing the ones removed?
By the way, I am going to try and replace the digitalizer in my HD2!
Thanks in advance!

There are 2 types of touch screen digitizers for HD2, you have to make sure you buy the right one. One needs to be soldered to the LCD flex, another plugs in. If you have a plug-in setup - you are in luck, if not - best to be left to professional, as it involves fine flex soldering.
Attaching the digitizer itself to the front housing is similar to that of Nexus and similar devices - 3M sticky double-sided tape is perfect, there is a 2mm one in a large flat roll sold everywhere.
Those who suggested the digitizer and LCD are fused together - wrong. Capacitive digitizers do not adhere to LCD and are attached to the housing itself with a free gap between the LCD and the digitizer.
I strongly recommend PROFESSIONAL INSTALLATION.

The best way of doing it is buying a ready assembly. Something along the lines of http://cgi.ebay.com/LCD-Screen-Touc...235?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f0b9f9463 It might be a bit more expensive than buying just a digitizer and attempting to attach it yourself, but you will save yourself a whole lot of trouble. AND it's still cheaper than $250 quoted somewhere above. Once you purchase the assembly, just familiarise yourself with HD2 disassembly/reassembly procedure and install.

Always buy a digitizer that is "OEM", even if it is used. The first digitizer I got for my HD2 with a smashed screen was shipped as 'new' from China, but when I got it, the quality was bad, because it was so cheap, and the screen would not recognize touch correctly..
Always be careful to check if there is anything caught on the middle frame when you take the motherboard out, because if you don't, you will rip something..
When I took my phone apart, I used this tape: http://cgi.ebay.com/3M-ADHESIVE-STI...652633?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item20baa9efd9 and it worked fine

enigma1nz said:
The best way of doing it is buying a ready assembly. Something along the lines of http://cgi.ebay.com/LCD-Screen-Touc...235?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f0b9f9463 It might be a bit more expensive than buying just a digitizer and attempting to attach it yourself, but you will save yourself a whole lot of trouble. AND it's still cheaper than $250 quoted somewhere above. Once you purchase the assembly, just familiarise yourself with HD2 disassembly/reassembly procedure and install.
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Wish I saw this about 25 minutes ago, I've already purchased my glass for 30$ Shipped - I guess I'm in for a hell of a ride with this one.

Replace touch screen.

Hi all
My touchscreen is broken, the screen doesnt response on any touch.
Also there is a crack in the front glass what do i need to replace?
And how do i replace that?
Thanx Sander

It depends on what is exactly broken. However, there are whole Digitizer+LCD units on Ebay for about 70 Euros. Then you can find some guides here, which show how to replace the screen. But as it is glued to the housing, it is not that easy.
However, if you decide no to repair it, I would be interested to buy the faulty device, because I need a small part which got lost during my replacement process. So, in that case, let me know.

the LCD itself is ok.
Only the touch screen is broken
because it lay down on a hot light bulb
so its burned down
only the touch is broken and the cover is a crack in;D

Well the problem is, that both parts are glued together and I haven't found a guide yet which shows how to disassemble then. Even the service manual does not show it.
Check this video: http://vimeo.com/7623264
You can see that he also uses a whole unit consisting of both parts. You can watch the video and decide whether you want to try it or not. But it seems much more difficult than with some other devices as e.g. the Kaiser or the HD2 because more things are glued instead of being fixed by screws.

If you have the tools and the replacement LCD + Digitizer, its really not all that hard.
you only need the right torx & phillips screwdriver and tweesers.
the glue holding the parts in is no issue, its actually convenient as you can just press the new part in without re-gluing.
if you decide the follow the HTC service manual, you may like to checkout the link in the bottom of my signature, it points out all the crucial steps the manual will not tell you to do.
also, even if the LCD is good, replace it anyway, mine was good but my digitizer was bad and I replaced both at once, its worth any extra cost to get a preassembled LCD+Digitizer, if you read around you will come to the same conclusion, many on here tried changing the digitizer alone and failed. (many as in like 40+ people, strongly consider getting a premade lcd+digitizer)

I have successfully replaced the digitizer with a unit from Dealextreme that sadly was slightly damaged on arrival but in much better shape than the original.
However I have to say that it is extremely tedious work, especially separating the digitizer from the LCD.
The original glue is very strong, so just getting the LCD+digitizer out of the casing I found kind of risky.
I ended up using a piece of paper to cut the glue that joins LCD+digitizer, as a hard plastic or metallic tool would most certainly damage the LCD.
The whole operation took me 4+ hours, but it IS possible.
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Good to see a success story!
I had only known of a phone repair technician who managed to peform a digitizer only repair, I heard that if you mildly warm the surface it makes it easier to separate, I'm still not game to do it, i noticed just how fragile the parts are when I replaced my bad digitizer with a preassembled LCD + digitizer, and Im still of the belief that its worth paying the difference to avoid the risk.
good stuff buskleif

i managed to seperate the digitiser from the lcd by steaming them apart, then fitting the rubber gasket to the new digitizer. it's a pain in the butt but very do-able. you have to take it very slowly and gently prize them apart as the steam is added. you can also get condensation on the backlight mirrored sheet but it evaporates and has no permanent issues that i've found so far.

LCD / Digitizer Replacement

My phone recently took a spill onto tile floor from about a foot and a half. It didn't land directly on the face but the glass shattered (Murphy's Law I suppose):
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Found a seller on eBay with a number of complete front packages for the Evo (digitizer, LCD, front cam) for $58. You can also find the digitizer separately, but I'd heard that some people have had issues with touch accuracy when replacing just that part. Plus, if you swap the complete front package you don't need to bother with a heat gun to loosen the glue holding the LCD and digitizer together.
One thing to be aware of: due to different ribbon connectors on the Novatek panel versus the Epson, you need to be aware of which screen type you have before purchasing a replacement. There are several ways to tell which panel you have (search the forum or post a reply if you need a point in the right direction).
Part number 83H00256 (S/N beginning 2V6) is the
Novatek LCD panel.
Part number 83H00314 (S/N beginning 2WC) is the
Epson LCD panel.
You can see the part number and serial on this label on the back of the front assembly (picture from ifixit, which did a great teardown on the Evo that can be used for reference):
It's a fairly easy swap so if you're living with a cracked screen (and don't have insurance) I'd highly recommend doing it. The seller I bought from has several more units and offers them for a very reasonable price. You can find his eBay store at http://myworld.ebay.com/secondhandsellular/
A few more pictures of my swap are below (shot with my wife's Pre), but for detailed hi-res pictures see the ifixit teardown.
The cracked phone next to the new front assembly (front):
The cracked phone next to the new front assembly (rear):
Front assembly, logic board, rear assembly
Reassembled phone with new front assembly next to cracked unit
Voila! Like new

Thanks for the info.... this will come handy for people without insurance...

Yeah, good job!
Sent from my blah blah blah blah

Nice! Thanks for this! I've got insurance and I'm still considering ordering a spare front assembly just to avoid replacing a phone that I have setup exactly how I want it. I guess the insurance will come in handy if the logic board ever dies, but short of that I think I'll make all repairs myself.

How did you re-stick down the glass?

goten75 said:
How did you re-stick down the glass?
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The OP replaced the whole front assembly, so the glass was already installed into the front case half.

Correct. Much easier that way. Plus, all the separate digitizers I found for sale were ~$50 anyway.
Sent from my PC36100

I have the Novatek LCD panel. I saw on Amazon that they have the screens. Which one do I need to purchase?

bedoig said:
Correct. Much easier that way. Plus, all the separate digitizers I found for sale were ~$50 anyway.
Sent from my PC36100
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Anyone who wants to do this, i have 2v6a's available for purchase, let me know

Wallabe said:
I have the Novatek LCD panel. I saw on Amazon that they have the screens. Which one do I need to purchase?
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The info is in the first post:
bedoig said:
Part number 83H00256 (S/N beginning 2V6) is the
Novatek LCD panel.
Part number 83H00314 (S/N beginning 2WC) is the
Epson LCD panel.
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bedoig said:
One thing to be aware of: due to different ribbon connectors on the Novatek panel versus the Epson, you need to be aware of which screen type you have before purchasing a replacement. There are several ways to tell which panel you have (search the forum or post a reply if you need a point in the right direction).
Part number 83H00256 (S/N beginning 2V6) is the
Novatek LCD panel.
Part number 83H00314 (S/N beginning 2WC) is the
Epson LCD panel.
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Oh, ****. I didn't even think of that when I blindly ordered mine. This may be a problem........
Thanks a lot for the post, though. It was very helpful for me. I'm been meaning to replace mine for the past few days but haven't had the time.
Edit: Just noticed this thread is from October. Sucks this didn't turn up for me when I searched.

iitreatedii said:
Anyone who wants to do this, i have 2v6a's available for purchase, let me know
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sent you a pm

10.1 S Pen P-580 Digitizer Replacement

Gents, anyone know where I can buy a digitizer for the P-580? I smashed my screen and have a new LCD coming in, but I can't find the actual digitizer anywhere. Thanks.

wconnell2010 said:
Gents, anyone know where I can buy a digitizer for the P-580? I smashed my screen and have a new LCD coming in, but I can't find the actual digitizer anywhere. Thanks.
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The digitizer for SM-P580 is the same as of SM-T580. However, the LCD is different, SM-P580 has S-Pen flex cable, SM-T580 LCD has no S-Pen cable.
So the full LCD and Digitizer of SM-P580 should have two cables, but the SM-T580 has only one.
This is an example, this guy doesn't know the difference between SM-T580 and SM-P580, the LCD is not the same as SM-T580 's LCD doesn't have S Pen cable.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/LCD-Touch-S...9e42d66&pid=100227&rk=2&rkt=7&sd=172219814211

Beut said:
The digitizer for SM-P580 is the same as of SM-T580. However, the LCD is different, SM-P580 has S-Pen flex cable, SM-T580 LCD has no S-Pen cable.
So the full LCD and Digitizer of SM-P580 should have two cables, but the SM-T580 has only one.
This is an example, this guy doesn't know the difference between SM-T580 and SM-P580, the LCD is not the same as SM-T580 's LCD doesn't have S Pen cable.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/LCD-Touch-S...9e42d66&pid=100227&rk=2&rkt=7&sd=172219814211
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Hmm, pretty sure the LCD is the same, the Digitizer has the extra cable for the Spen

wconnell2010 said:
Hmm, pretty sure the LCD is the same, the Digitizer has the extra cable for the Spen
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I think you don't recognize the difference either. Touchscreen has only one cable for itself.
Look at this picture, the SM_P580 is on the right, the orange flex on the top is from digitizer, the second orange flex below is Spen and is from LCD.
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Wait until you have your LCD, if there is no flex cable, then you buy the wrong LCD. LCD of SM-T580 has no Spen cable.
Look all over internet, no digitizer has SPen cable.
Look at this sale, where you can find the S Pen cable from the touchscreen
http://www.ebay.com/itm/LCD-Touch-S...hash=item1ec596faf7:m:mCyWijIKhLHFCkJa2RNLP9w
Look at this Note 2014, the S Pen cable is from LCD. Wacom is embeded in LCD, not on the touchscreen.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/USA-10-1-Fo...531041?hash=item51f44543e1:g:UhgAAOSwB-1Yr9Kg

Verification of touch screen / digitizer
Hi @Beut, I cracked the glass panel touch screen (it the correct terminology the digitizer?) of my SM-P580. If I understand your comments correctly the S-Pen functionality is not in the touch screen / digitizer, but part of the LCD so then that means I can replace the touch screen / digitizer by purchasing the following EBay item id 401420979195 (my account is new so I can't post URLs). Am I correct? TIA!
Beut said:
I think you don't recognize the difference either. Touchscreen has only one cable for itself.
Look at this picture, the SM_P580 is on the right, the orange flex on the top is from digitizer, the second orange flex below is Spen and is from LCD.
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Be careful when buying, P580 is wider than T580 so touchscreen is not the same size

Much appreciated. By chance have you seen any SM-P580 touch screens for sale? I can only find touch screen and LCD combinations on EBay that cost at least $175USD which is probably not worth it since I bought the unit new for $230USD.
Beut said:
Be careful when buying, P580 is wider than T580 so touchscreen is not the same size
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wconnell2010 said:
Gents, anyone know where I can buy a digitizer for the P-580? I smashed my screen and have a new LCD coming in, but I can't find the actual digitizer anywhere. Thanks.
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Are you sure the LCD you have already bought doesn't include the digitizer? I've never heard of them being sold separately for the P580 like they are for the T580.

voidmain01 said:
Much appreciated. By chance have you seen any SM-P580 touch screens for sale? I can only find touch screen and LCD combinations on EBay that cost at least $175USD which is probably not worth it since I bought the unit new for $230USD.
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It seems the touchscreen and LCD are glued together with LOCA ( liquid optical crystal adhesive ).
You have to take out the old set to get the frame and home button, not recommend to someone not familiar with lcd replacement.
I see most of the LCD, digitizer set are sold without frame, without experiences, you may damage the LCD frame or cut off the home button cable.
By doing so, your new set of LCD and digitizer is useless.